"Troopers giving out more tickets" in Newspaper

[JPiZZiJP]

NEWARK - Drivers on the Garden State Parkway and teh New Jersey Turnpike should lighten up on their gas pedals.

State troopers on those two highways issued 45,930 traffic tickets between March and May, a 50 percent increase over the previous three months. It was the most tickets that troopers have handed out over the same amount of time in the last three yeares.

Officials say the reason for the increase is the additional 66 troopers who have been hired in the last year to cover the parkway and turnpike.

The executive director of the New Jersey Turnpike Authority, Michael Lapolla, said the new hires replace state troopers who had been pulled away, especially after Sept. 11, to cover other areas and troopers who had retired.

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This confirms that there was a quota/significant increase in those previous months. 1 of those 45930 tickets was mine. bastards. lol

[skorpion317]

a lot of them are ticket-happy.

we should get some petitions together for anti-speed trap laws. several states have restrictions on how a cop can nail you for speeding. as of right now, the only laws NJ has in effect about that are the officer seeting up a speed trap on private property, and hiding behind a building with his lights off. cops are not allowed to do either (although if they have the property owner's permission, they can use the property for a speed trap).

[foff667]

blah blah blah...same thing goes around every month...who cares.

[JPiZZiJP]

blah blah blah...same thing goes around every month...who cares.

I was justing posting it for the people who actually do care Bill. :(

[Tsar]

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45,930 traffic tickets between March and May,
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:shock:

[foff667]

blah blah blah...same thing goes around every month...who cares.

I was justing posting it for the people who actually do care Bill. :(

im sorry if i came off harsh Joe but i see something new posted about this almost daily on almost every forum I visit...it just gets old...fine everyone slow down but geez somebody is going overboard in getting this point across.

[Savage_Messiah]

and hiding behind a building with his lights off. cops are not allowed to do either

Good to know, I have seen them do that before...

[BlueFBird]

and hiding behind a building with his lights off. cops are not allowed to do either

Good to know, I have seen them do that before...

with a few cops in the family and myself becoming one soon...that is bs if ur speeding and the cops is hidin the in woods or a building or where ever and issues u a ticket..its his word over urs in court, ur wrong for not obeying the speed limit no matter what.

[foff667]

and hiding behind a building with his lights off. cops are not allowed to do either

Good to know, I have seen them do that before...

with a few cops in the family and myself becoming one soon...that is bs if ur speeding and the cops is hidin the in woods or a building or where ever and issues u a ticket..its his word over urs in court, ur wrong for not obeying the speed limit no matter what.

theres this one spot the trenton/ewing people should all know about over near the state police station up near forrestal villiage in princeton...right across the street from the station they set up a car there behind a billboard & some trees...im sure there are a bunch of dumbasses that get pulled over from that one :lol:

[JL8Jeff]

I don't think my 4Runner is capable of speeding so it's not a problem for me. It's all those Fast and Furious wannabes and the suicide bikers that weave in and out of traffic at 100 mph that they're after. If they happen to catch a soccer mom on her cell phone speeding, that's a bonus.

[JPiZZiJP]

blah blah blah...same thing goes around every month...who cares.

I was justing posting it for the people who actually do care Bill. :(

im sorry if i came off harsh Joe but i see something new posted about this almost daily on almost every forum I visit...it just gets old...fine everyone slow down but geez somebody is going overboard in getting this point across.

It's all good man. I try not to post stuff that people won't find humorous or interesting.... I only check a few forums, and this is the only NJ one.

The whole controversy about NJ State Police and quotas and ticketing, the whole thing interests me. Half the people say it's bogus, the other half say it's not... no one knows who to believe... and I just think this newspaper article confirms some stuff that ticketing was going quite rampant these past few months.

[foff667]

blah blah blah...same thing goes around every month...who cares.

I was justing posting it for the people who actually do care Bill. :(

im sorry if i came off harsh Joe but i see something new posted about this almost daily on almost every forum I visit...it just gets old...fine everyone slow down but geez somebody is going overboard in getting this point across.

It's all good man. I try not to post stuff that people won't find humorous or interesting.... I only check a few forums, and this is the only NJ one.

The whole controversy about NJ State Police and quotas and ticketing, the whole thing interests me. Half the people say it's bogus, the other half say it's not... no one knows who to believe... and I just think this newspaper article confirms some stuff that ticketing was going quite rampant these past few months.

all the cops & ex cops say its bogus...everyone else says its not lol thats how **** goes.

[ShitOnWheels]

blah blah blah...same thing goes around every month...who cares.

I was justing posting it for the people who actually do care Bill. :(

im sorry if i came off harsh Joe but i see something new posted about this almost daily on almost every forum I visit...it just gets old...fine everyone slow down but geez somebody is going overboard in getting this point across.

It's all good man. I try not to post stuff that people won't find humorous or interesting.... I only check a few forums, and this is the only NJ one.

The whole controversy about NJ State Police and quotas and ticketing, the whole thing interests me. Half the people say it's bogus, the other half say it's not... no one knows who to believe... and I just think this newspaper article confirms some stuff that ticketing was going quite rampant these past few months.

all the cops & ex cops say its bogus...everyone else says its not lol thats how **** goes.
Cops can say what they want. There may not be a "You must give xxx amount of tickets per month" rule, however, if someone only gives 5, when someone else gives 300...something is fishy there. Come yearly review time, my guess is they look at that kind of stuff to determine raises and promotions. It may not be explicit, but it's known there is a level of productivity you should be achieving if you don't want trouble.

[12secondv6]

So...... don't speed.

I speed..... I get caught.... I probably deserved it!

[BigAls87Z28]

Yes, there is an unwritten quota for cops, and just like it was explained, there is a certain expectation that you will get X amount of cars speeding.

Oh well, I will continue to speed, and I will end up paying for doing so.

[skorpion317]

and hiding behind a building with his lights off. cops are not allowed to do either

Good to know, I have seen them do that before...

with a few cops in the family and myself becoming one soon...that is bs if ur speeding and the cops is hidin the in woods or a building or where ever and issues u a ticket..its his word over urs in court, ur wrong for not obeying the speed limit no matter what.

not hiding in the woods....hiding behind a building. as in you're driving along the road, and there's a building coming up, and the cop is behind that building with his lights off waiting for a speeder. they are no longer allowed to do that as of Jan. 1st of this year.

[BlueFBird]

not hiding in the woods....hiding behind a building. as in you're driving along the road, and there's a building coming up, and the cop is behind that building with his lights off waiting for a speeder. they are no longer allowed to do that as of Jan. 1st of this year.[/quote]

i understand that but if the cop catches u over the speed limit ur fuked, sayin he was behind a buildin isnt gona get u out of it u broke the law..like i said his word against urs..and if the property manager is allowing cops to sit there they can...

[unstable bob gable]

I don't think my 4Runner is capable of speeding so it's not a problem for me. It's all those Fast and Furious wannabes and the suicide bikers that weave in and out of traffic at 100 mph that they're after. If they happen to catch a soccer mom on her cell phone speeding, that's a bonus.

I'm with the Stickman on this one. Friggin' RT 78 {AKA "The Hillbilly Highway"} is like a scene from friggin' Mad Max! Do Pennsyltucky jabronies have different road rules to obey in Jersey than the residents? 'Cause it sure looks like they think they have an open season to come down here and drive like azzclowns!

[Tru2Chevy]

not hiding in the woods....hiding behind a building. as in you're driving along the road, and there's a building coming up, and the cop is behind that building with his lights off waiting for a speeder. they are no longer allowed to do that as of Jan. 1st of this year.

i understand that but if the cop catches u over the speed limit ur fuked, sayin he was behind a buildin isnt gona get u out of it u broke the law..like i said his word against urs..and if the property manager is allowing cops to sit there they can...

Well actually, if the cop was behind the building with lights off, it's considered a form of entrapment, which is illegal. Which means that the cop most likely wouldn't have caught you speeding had he or she been following the law themselves. So yes, you actually can have the ticket thrown out in court....

- Justin

[Teds89IROC]

I think it's BS how they set up speed traps on the bottom of a hill. Obviously people are gonna pick up speed, even being off the gas. That's why I'll keep my radar detector :D

~Ted

[foff667]

not hiding in the woods....hiding behind a building. as in you're driving along the road, and there's a building coming up, and the cop is behind that building with his lights off waiting for a speeder. they are no longer allowed to do that as of Jan. 1st of this year.

i understand that but if the cop catches u over the speed limit ur fuked, sayin he was behind a buildin isnt gona get u out of it u broke the law..like i said his word against urs..and if the property manager is allowing cops to sit there they can...

Well actually, if the cop was behind the building with lights off, it's considered a form of entrapment, which is illegal. Which means that the cop most likely wouldn't have caught you speeding had he or she been following the law themselves. So yes, you actually can have the ticket thrown out in court....

- Justin

entrapment-To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act

how are they in any way luring you to do anything? If a person is speeding they are speeding...if cops are doing a sting for drag racing & pull out their camaro z28 street racing bait car and get you to bite on a race thats considered intrapment right? Would they still take your car? more then likely they will so either way just do the right thing and you should have few if any problems

[Tru2Chevy]

I'm not saying that speeding is ok, I was just explaining it how it was explained to me by my next-door neighbor (former county sheriff, current Ewing cop).

- Justin

[jims69camaro]

i like the fact that more tickets are being written. hell, i'd like ot have a cop sit on my road 24/7; residential, but the F&F crowd think it's the parkway :roll: if they are concerned about revenue for having to pay that cop to sit there, he can more than make up for it in the number of tickets he'll write...

remember the speeding poll i had up last week? if you think 15 over is ok, then you will pay for speeding tickets. no two ways about it, and the judge is going to believe the cop over you every day of the week.

[Fasterthanyou]

Want to know what's gay... the speed limit itself. I don't blame the cops for giving the tickets and I don't blame myself for speeding. Why should a road that's dry and sticky, clear and well marked be 55mph in the summer and 55mph on an icy snow covered winters dusk with the sun shining in your face and off the snow? If it were me, I'd change the speed limits to be a little more flexible. Dynamic speed limits that state clearly 65mph dry and clear 45mph bad weather. I know that would just make a mess of the court system with traffic cases about the weather being dry and clear or bad... but for crying out loud I can't see how under 2 extream conditions there is 1 speed limit. Then there's the whole vehicle technology card I could play. Cars are built to go faster but also to stop faster. The average car's 60-0 distance has dropped dramatically so if it were me, the speed limits would go up. We should adopt a law that prohibits bad driving habits like tailgating or just start cracking down on THAT and less of the speeding violations. That's my ideal world, a utopia for the streets of NJ. But alas, this state is doomed so I'll probably end up moving somewhere that isn't full of bad drivers jacking up my insurance.

[skorpion317]

what i'd really like to see is the cops obeying the law. I rarely, if ever, see a police officer following the speed limit, highway or town road. i was on my way home tonite, driving through my town on a road where 40 is the limit, and I paced a police officer. He was easily doing 50 or more. No lights on, and he didn't seem to be in a rush to get anywhere. He was just speeding. now, if someone came along down the road at 45 MPH, he would've whipped the cruiser around and pulled them over....

[Fasterthanyou]

what i'd really like to see is the cops obeying the law. I rarely, if ever, see a police officer following the speed limit, highway or town road. i was on my way home tonite, driving through my town on a road where 40 is the limit, and I paced a police officer. He was easily doing 50 or more. No lights on, and he didn't seem to be in a rush to get anywhere. He was just speeding. now, if someone came along down the road at 45 MPH, he would've whipped the cruiser around and pulled them over....
That's a good point. How can you respect somebody if they don't play by the same rules? I always wanted to video tape the frequent (and it is a majority of them) speeding cops next to their own "your speed is" equipment they setup on the side of the road. I wonder how many cops I could get in trouble for it, lol. I bet if I did that the cops would be waiting for me to pull out of my driveway!

[jims69camaro]

i have reported bad driving cops from my cell phone more than once. if they are our supposed "role model" driver, then how do they get away with the **** they do - and why should they? isolated incidents probably won't raise any eyebrows, but if enough people complain about those cops who abuse the law then something will be done about it. unfortunately, getting people to stick together about anything is pie-in-the-sky-thinking, much less reporting bad driving cops. so, i will just continue to do what i do and if others join in, then fine. if not, at least i know i am doing something to change what i don't like.

since cell phones are still somewhat anonymous, i don't worry about cops out for vengeance.

[JPiZZiJP]

Want to know what's gay... the speed limit itself. I don't blame the cops for giving the tickets and I don't blame myself for speeding. Why should a road that's dry and sticky, clear and well marked be 55mph in the summer and 55mph on an icy snow covered winters dusk with the sun shining in your face and off the snow? If it were me, I'd change the speed limits to be a little more flexible. Dynamic speed limits that state clearly 65mph dry and clear 45mph bad weather. I know that would just make a mess of the court system with traffic cases about the weather being dry and clear or bad... but for crying out loud I can't see how under 2 extream conditions there is 1 speed limit. Then there's the whole vehicle technology card I could play. Cars are built to go faster but also to stop faster. The average car's 60-0 distance has dropped dramatically so if it were me, the speed limits would go up. We should adopt a law that prohibits bad driving habits like tailgating or just start cracking down on THAT and less of the speeding violations. That's my ideal world, a utopia for the streets of NJ. But alas, this state is doomed so I'll probably end up moving somewhere that isn't full of bad drivers jacking up my insurance.

The car's 60-0 distance has dropped, but I think it's more about the ability of a person's reaction time to be able to stop, given a certain speed.

1 mile = 5280 feet
If travelling 60 mph = 88 ft/sec
If travelling 70 mph = 102.666 ft/sec
If travelling 80 mph = 117.333 ft/sec

I don't know what average reaction times are for stopping... but just using the 70 mph speed (which is approx 100 ft/sec, to keep the math simple), If your reaction time is 1/2 a second, you've already traveled 50 feet. 50 feet is pretty damn far, in terms of braking distances, imo.

Just some food for thought.

~Joe

[JerzLT1]

has anyone ever been pulled over on the Express way "Speed Limit 65 Conditions permiting" and given the excuse "well the conditions permited me to do 100".... it didnt work too well for my brother lol

[JPiZZiJP]

has anyone ever been pulled over on the Express way "Speed Limit 65 Conditions permiting" and given the excuse "well the conditions permited me to do 100".... it didnt work too well for my brother lol

Yes, I have lol... got pulled over doing about 110...

Cop: "Are you aware of the speed limit?"
Me: "Yes sir... 65 Conditions Permitting."
Cop: "Are you aware of how fast you were going?"
Me: "Yes sir... 110 or so."
Cop: (more sternly) "Are you aware that you were speeding???!!!"
Me: (with a hint of chuckle) "Well, it's a clear and sunny day, I thought the conditions would permit me to go that fast."
(long pause... Cop glances at my windshield)
Cop: "What's the PBA shield for?"
Me: "My father's a corrections offcer."
(long pause)
Cop: "Did your daddy tell you to say that?"
Me: (laughing) "No, I'm just a smart ass."
(long pause)
Cop: "Slow down and get the **** outta here."
Me: "Thanks!"

[PDubs87Z28]

has anyone ever been pulled over on the Express way "Speed Limit 65 Conditions permiting" and given the excuse "well the conditions permited me to do 100".... it didnt work too well for my brother lol

Yes, I have lol... got pulled over doing about 110...

Cop: "Are you aware of the speed limit?"
Me: "Yes sir... 65 Conditions Permitting."
Cop: "Are you aware of how fast you were going?"
Me: "Yes sir... 110 or so."
Cop: (more sternly) "Are you aware that you were speeding???!!!"
Me: (with a hint of chuckle) "Well, it's a clear and sunny day, I thought the conditions would permit me to go that fast."
(long pause... Cop glances at my windshield)
Cop: "What's the PBA shield for?"
Me: "My father's a corrections offcer."
(long pause)
Cop: "Did your daddy tell you to say that?"
Me: (laughing) "No, I'm just a smart ass."
(long pause)
Cop: "Slow down and get the **** outta here."
Me: "Thanks!"
:funny: Thats Great!

[ar0ck]

Its simple, avoid the roads, or dont speed.

[Savage_Messiah]

Its simple, avoid the roads, or dont speed.

avoid the roads??

let's all drive thru freakin' fields :roll:

[PDubs87Z28]

if i still had the cutlass i'd do it.....never stopped me before :twisted:

[Tru2Chevy]

Its simple, avoid the roads, or dont speed.

avoid the roads??

let's all drive thru freakin' fields :roll:

YEEEEE-HAAAAAW!!!!! :lol:

- Justin