Bit the Bullet

[ar0ck]

So I went to TTPerformance today to put a downpayment on some work for the Z28!

So far the list is:
MSD Cap & Rotor
Taylor Thunderbolt Wires
NGK TR55 Spark Plugs
March Underdrive Pulleys (Alt & Crank)
Serpentine belt
Polyeurethane Trans Mount
Meizer Electric Water Pump
Earls Steel Braided Brake Lines
Install Hawks Pads
Transmission Fluid
Rear End Fluid
Brake Fluid
Fuel Guage Sending Relay
Holley 190lb/hr Fuel Pump
Replace 1 Drivers Side Rear Wheel Stud
Eibach Pro-Kit
Bilstien HD Shocks & Struts
Sphon Tubular LCA's
Weld In Relocation brackets
1LE Rear Sway Bar w/ Poly Bushings
Possibly SLP 3.73's


Im comming to get you j0n :lol:

[foff667]

gawd do some of your own friggin work lazy ass

[Savage_Messiah]

where the hell do you get this kind of money? I thought you were broke??pro-kit, shocks (dunno bout bilstein), braided brake lines, and LCAs are all on my to-do list..

[jims69camaro]

gawd do some of your own friggin work lazy ass

:werd:

[enRo]

And out of that whole list, wheres the new Clutch????????

[foff667]

where the hell do you get this kind of money? I thought you were broke??pro-kit, shocks (dunno bout bilstein), braided brake lines, and LCAs are all on my to-do list..

he works at the lego store he's gotta be pullin in 6 figures, easy. :lol:

[Tru2Chevy]

Great list of work to do....even though half of it could be done in your driveway in a matter of minutes.

- Justin

[camaroracer1992]

youdve been better off buying the tools if need be to do this stuff. **** anymore if you people need stuff put on your car pay me to do it instead, many on here can vouch for my quality of work and attention to detail

[foff667]

The only things I wouldnt wanna have to do are

Fuel Guage Sending Relay
Holley 190lb/hr Fuel Pump
Replace 1 Drivers Side Rear Wheel Stud
Eibach Pro-Kit
Weld In Relocation brackets
SLP 3.73's

all the other stuff is basic maintenance for the most part & could all be done in less then a day...from the looks of all that stuff you'll get rapped for over a grand in labor alone.

[NJSPEEDER]

bill, you just listed teh easier stuff to do as the stuff you wouldn't want to do. LT1 ignition = sucks massive ass to work on.
shocks adn springs are pretty easy, gas tank stuff is simple, just time consuming on 3rd and 4th gens.

later
tim

[Fasterthanyou]

Holley 190 pump? wtf, why not a Walbro 255lph? Might as well do it right the first time :) .
I'm with the rest of the guys. Do some of it yourself! Just because you're paying for it to get done doesn't mean it's going to be right. The guys working for $ can make just as many mistakes as you... experiences don't increase intelligence and I'll leave it at that.

[foff667]

bill, you just listed teh easier stuff to do as the stuff you wouldn't want to do. LT1 ignition = sucks massive ass to work on.
shocks adn springs are pretty easy, gas tank stuff is simple, just time consuming on 3rd and 4th gens.

later
tim


Weld In Relocation brackets-do you really think alex has a welder?
SLP 3.73's-do you really think hes got all the tools & knowledge to setup a new rear? I dont even have the tools or knowledge(yes I know thats not saying much :lol:)
Replace stud-this goes with the gears...rear axle would have to be pulled either way so why not get it done all at once...maybe have them install longer studs all around.
Springs-front spring/shock design changed from 3rd gens to 4th so i dunno how easy the front would be, but your correct in teh back would be simple & straitfoward
Fuel pump-maybe its me but I dont think doing the fuel pump on an fbody is fun...maybe if hes cutting the deck to get to the pump, but otherwise I too would leave that up to someone else to deal with...relay is another fuel part so i just bundled it together.

personally I think they are all valid things to pass on...but when you look around this board there are many members who have changed their opti, plugs, wires on a 4th gen...I've done plugs & wires twice now so I know its a bitch...again have you changed out front springs on a 4th gen or a fuel pump?

[ar0ck]

I've never changed anything in my life. I have little boy LEGO building hands. Nor do I even have the tools for any of this stuff. Ask Ted, when I attempt to adjust my own head-lights I dont even have the right tools.

[EVIL90SS]

soooooooo....you want to go fast...but cant fix **** ?? uhh...theres somethin wrong here

[NJSPEEDER]

i ahve welded relo brackets, changed fuel pumps in third and fourth gens, and i have helped do spring and shock swaps. all very easy.
it isn't jsut about if alex has teh right tools bill, he does know some people. i am sure someone has a welder and 2mins of free time in trade for a 6pack. :)

later
tim

[Savage_Messiah]

Do your own work, most of that is basic maintanence/do it yourself, you will get raped on labor, call me and I'll do it for some food and beer

Wow, is it me or is everyone repeating what I've been saying for months?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tru2Chevy]

:funny: :stupid:

- Justin

[Tsar]

youdve been better off buying the tools if need be to do this stuff. **** anymore if you people need stuff put on your car pay me to do it instead, many on here can vouch for my quality of work and attention to detailand how much do you charge?

[Koll]

where the hell do you get this kind of money? I thought you were broke??pro-kit, shocks (dunno bout bilstein), braided brake lines, and LCAs are all on my to-do list..

he works at the lego store he's gotta be pullin in 6 figures, easy. :lol:

Including 2 decimal places, right?

[Savage_Messiah]

BTW it is patetic that you need all this to break out of high 14's... with half the money youre gonna pay for parts and labor I can build my 3.8 to beat you heads up where you stand now

[NJSPEEDER]

one trip to the track and he already learned how to smack talk. i am soooo proud. *sniffle
lol

later
tim

[Savage_Messiah]

:twisted:

[ar0ck]

Bring it little one. Its not the mods that are going to just bring me out. Its the months of practicing my driving on the mean streets of north new jersey. Plus these mods will help my car run much more efficient then it was when I last ran it.

Im down for Englishtown or Island as soon as I get the car back, and the weather cools down some more at night.

[enRo]

Bring it little one. Its not the mods that are going to just bring me out. Its the months of practicing my driving on the mean streets of north new jersey. Plus these mods will help my car run much more efficient then it was when I last ran it.

Im down for Englishtown or Island as soon as I get the car back, and the weather cools down some more at night.

Lets hope you dont blow your stock clutch in the process, since that isnt listed in your upcoming mods

[unstable bob gable]

Â*I have little boy LEGO building hands. Â*


Then you have the perfect hands for working on a 4th gen!

[j0n]

there's no automatic swap on your list...how on God's green earth do you intend to beat me down the 1320?

[BigAls87Z28]

Dude, thats a lot of work that you could do. Why am I typing this when im talking to you on Aim?

So far the list is:
March Underdrive Pulleys (Alt & Crank)
Serpentine belt
Polyeurethane Trans Mount
Earls Steel Braided Brake Lines
Install Hawks Pads
Rear End Fluid
Brake Fluid
Holley 190lb/hr Fuel Pump
Replace 1 Drivers Side Rear Wheel Stud
Eibach Pro-Kit
Bilstien HD Shocks & Struts
Sphon Tubular LCA's
1LE Rear Sway Bar w/ Poly Bushings

All the above could be done away from TTP. You can get spring compressors at any auto parts store. Im getting a brake system flush kit from Matco soon, and most of thoes parts you can get out of Summit or Jegs for teh same price, if not cheaper, then what TTP can.
Its a lot of cash man. Not that I dont trust TTP, just trying to save you some money.

[skorpion317]

one trip to the track and he already learned how to smack talk. i am soooo proud. *sniffle
lol

later
tim

seriously.

and he had a head start, too. and Jon missed a gear, and still only lost by a foot.

[BigAls87Z28]

To Kasey, a foot is like a mile... 8)

[skorpion317]

To Kasey, a foot is like a mile... 8)

:owned:

[1FastWS6]

Did my Walbro 255 pump last year in my driveway. I used the Racetronix kit, and it took about 10 hrs all together. I would do almost everything on that list myself except for the gears. Then again, I have a welder. You could definetly save yourself enough money in labor to get yourself some more mods. Thats just my opinion though. Where in North Jersey are you from? I think you told me at the Hooters meet, but I forgot.

[Tsar]

Did my Walbro 255 pump last year in my driveway. I used the Racetronix kit, and it took about 10 hrs all together. I would do almost everything on that list myself except for the gears. Then again, I have a welder. You could definetly save yourself enough money in labor to get yourself some more mods. Thats just my opinion though. Where in North Jersey are you from? I think you told me at the Hooters meet, but I forgot.i see you like to work on stuff. you still gotta help me, remember :D :bow:

[12secondv6]

Buy a Chilton's manual... do most of the mods yourself!

Get a 255 lph pump too!

[Savage_Messiah]

yea, because my car can be called anything NEAR good running condition lol

[Fastbird]

I know it's already been said but 90% of that stuff can be done by yourself in a matter of a day, including the fuel pump (why didn't you go with the Racetronix pump BTW, that thing is plug and play). At least give it a shot and call up a couple people for some guidance and help, I know there's plenty of us here who wouldn't mind lending a hand to help someone save some money.

[Savage_Messiah]

To Kasey, a foot is like a mile... 8)

To you it is too, let me know when your 87 can move a foot by its own power

[j0n]

9secfirebird would have done all that work for 200 bucks!

[ar0ck]

Bitch all you guys want about me not doing thing myself, but I am a checkbook hobbiest. I dont controll this stuff because my parents whom I still owe money to for the car, and the car is insured under my moms name; Wont let me do this stuff on my own. I dont have the patience, space, or the tools to do it. And my parents sure as hell are not going to allow some "Internet Buddy" to do it for me. Their paying for a 1/4 of the bill for mainance parts & repair, so why should I challenge them?

Its just the way it is.

[Savage_Messiah]

Eh, my dad would encourage me to do 95% of it in our driveway... tools we all can provide, same with space, and a lot of the people here know what theyre doing making time less of an issue than it would be at a shop, where your car is after cars a, b, and c, and then they close at whatever time (granted TTP is very good with staying open late is necessary).

You said that before suspension parts and labor came to 1100m, and you owe your parents 2k on the car... I would probably rather have the car paid off and not worry about debts than have my parents still having contrl over it (you still need to be home by 12 pm?)

Also I think you know a bunch of us on more than "internet buddy" terms :?

[j0n]

you dont deserve your car...

[ar0ck]

Also I think you know a bunch of us on more than "internet buddy" terms :?
But do my parents know you more then just "internet buddies"?

you dont deserve your car...

Why because my parents have a loose noose over my head?

[Savage_Messiah]

Also I think you know a bunch of us on more than "internet buddy" terms Â*:?
But do my parents know you more then just "internet buddies"?

Well my parents know people from the club as either from the fbody club or car friends, i guess it helps tho that my dad has met a bunch of people on here but still... I dunno, this is so local I consider the site more as a central gathering point for a local club, other sites im on are more "internet buddies" like cv6, fullthrottlev6, etc. because there are people worldwide there

you dont deserve your car...

Why because my parents have a loose noose over my head?

I think it was referring to the points that it's more TTP's car than yours in ters of who has planned out and installed the mods... and done the tune ups
also to the fact that you car should be a HELL OF A LOT QUICKER than a 14.6

[j0n]

i paid for my car 100% myself
i pay my insurance 100% by myself
i pay for all parts 100% by myself
i've had my car at a shop once...when i towed it there after blowing up my optispark so i could have the codes read...at which piont the car was towed back to my driveway so i could fix it

its not because you have a loose noose over your head...it's because you dont remove the noose by paying for **** yourself

btw 1100 bucks for a tuneup eh? i paid 250 for an opti, 100 for a water pump, 40 for plugs...had the car "tuned up" by myself in 3 days and went 14.2 bone stock

[1FastWS6]

Did my Walbro 255 pump last year in my driveway. I used the Racetronix kit, and it took about 10 hrs all together. I would do almost everything on that list myself except for the gears. Then again, I have a welder. You could definetly save yourself enough money in labor to get yourself some more mods. Thats just my opinion though. Where in North Jersey are you from? I think you told me at the Hooters meet, but I forgot.i see you like to work on stuff. you still gotta help me, remember Â*:D Â*:bow:

Sure, let me know when you want to get rid of that nasty misfire. :P

[foff667]

fwiw alex i was in the same position as you until I was like 21-22ish...the only mod I had ever done was an slp intake on my 94 formy. Once tim & I were back on speaking terms he helped me mod my truck & with every thing I did I gained more and more confidence in what I could do & do well. Not to mention the $ saved in installing these parts I have gathered an arsenal of tools...everything from my mig welder & air compressor with everything from a blow gun to a paint gun to my wrenches, drills, hammers, pulley pullers & so on and so forth...bottom line is your have to figure out what you want...because if you think your gonna have someone make you a fast car you need to make more hourly then your giving them...or you can make $10/hr & do the work yourself & have a car thats just as fast. If you can do both the more power to ya.

[The Fixer]

Well my parents know people from the club as either from the fbody club or car friends, i guess it helps tho that my dad has met a bunch of people on here but still...

Yah, his parents were cool w/ me showing him how to do front brakes right in his driveway. That's the way to learn. I hope your car is still stopping ok Kasey. :)

Anyway, I was the same as Bill, and started wrenching on my own car in my early 20's. Now I'm in my early 30's and have learned quite a bit, and have saved my family and friends' quite a bit of $$ by wrenching on their cars too. I've done brakes on my bro's old beater, a window regulator in my mom's '99 Grand Cherokee, coolant flush and fill with new hoses on my dad's old Grand Prix, plus brakes on my sister-in-law's Hyundai (twice, ugh!) and brakes on my father-in-law's truck. I hung a cat-back exhaust system (on my back in my driveway) on a friend's '87 SS for $75, and rebuilt another friend's gauge cluster and installed a speedo cable for him for $100 (in his driveway), along with removing an old alarm system. This doesn't even include my own cars, which have an insane amount of hours into them. My '88 was built by me and my friend in my driveway, with nothing more than hand tools and jackstands, not even an air compressor!

Gotta start learning how to do some of the stuff yourself to save money. It's rough being a college guy and having a car for a hobby. It's too damn expensive to pay someone else thousands to build it, unless you're making $100K a year and have lots of leftover $$ to play with. JMO of course.

[foff667]

[ plus brakes on my sister-in-law's Hyundai (twice, ugh!)

comon man...ive done brakes on my wifes only 99 like 3 times... its a 10 minute ordeal total tops lol easiest brake system to work on ever IMO ;)

[2001orangess]

i haven't done anywork on my car lately.... but than again, I don't know how to fab piping for an intercooler or put a set of cams in, nor do i know how to tune the damn thing.

[j0n]

i haven't done anywork on my car lately.... but than again, I don't know how to fab piping for an intercooler or put a set of cams in, nor do i know how to tune the damn thing.

you have one cam...not a set...you dont own a civic

[foff667]

you have one cam...not a set...you dont own a civic

:funny:

[The Fixer]

comon man...ive done brakes on my wifes only 99 like 3 times... its a 10 minute ordeal total tops lol easiest brake system to work on ever IMO ;)

I know they're easy. I just hate working on the car, cause she beats the death out of it. The car is only 3 years old, only has 35K miles, and is now on it's 3rd set of brakes (OEM, then I did 'em last summer, and again this summer). She is on the throttle until the last possible second, and then slams on the brakes, so they get killed.

[foff667]

comon man...ive done brakes on my wifes only 99 like 3 times... its a 10 minute ordeal total tops lol easiest brake system to work on ever IMO ;)

I know they're easy. I just hate working on the car, cause she beats the death out of it. The car is only 3 years old, only has 35K miles, and is now on it's 3rd set of brakes (OEM, then I did 'em last summer, and again this summer). She is on the throttle until the last possible second, and then slams on the brakes, so they get killed.

yah thats about how many sets my wife went through but different driving habit i guess :shrug: shes at 20k with the buick with the same set.

[ar0ck]

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:D

[Savage_Messiah]

fwiw alex i was in the same position as you until I was like 21-22ish...the only mod I had ever done was an slp intake on my 94 formy. Â*Once tim & I were back on speaking terms he helped me mod my truck & with every thing I did I gained more and more confidence in what I could do & do well. Â*Not to mention the $ saved in installing these parts I have gathered an arsenal of tools...everything from my mig welder & air compressor with everything from a blow gun to a paint gun to my wrenches, drills, hammers, pulley pullers & so on and so forth...bottom line is your have to figure out what you want...because if you think your gonna have someone make you a fast car you need to make more hourly then your giving them...or you can make $10/hr & do the work yourself & have a car thats just as fast. Â*If you can do both the more power to ya.

Bills air compressor rules... but how do you put air in the kiddie pool with it? :lol:
[/inside joke]

And yup, steve, stopping great thanks :D... how was your chinese food?

[JerzLT1]

i haven't done anywork on my car lately.... Â*but than again, I don't know how to fab piping for an intercooler or put Â*a set of cams in, nor do i know how to tune the damn thing.

swap in a Vtec or somethin? :lol: