Got the Alero Smacked Up Today

[NJSPEEDER]

hey gang,
i was on my way over to talk to teh guy who is going to machine my block for the motor i want to build over the winter and i got into a pretty good accident.

i am ok. stiff, banged around a bit, but everything on me shoudl "buff right out" so to speak. that is a lot better than what i can say for teh car.

short version of what happened:
i was on old lincoln highway in penndel, pa heading west from work to frank bash's machine shop. i slowed down as i came up to the place and let some traffic go by so i could make my turn.
i had my signal on, slowed normally, let an oncomign car go past, started to trun left and all of a sudden.........WHAMMMMOOOO!!!!!
some ass hat wasn't paying attention and nailed me. best part is that he hit the drivers door!!!!!
instead of slamming on the brakes in a straght line or weaving to is right(there are 2 lanes each way on this road) he weaves to the left and locks up teh tires.
he told the cop he was doing 40(the posted speed limit) but i am betting he was going better than that. prolly 30ft of skids marks before the point of impact and 20 after.

i was shook to say teh least and this ******* then proceeds to get out of the car and start yelling at me that he honked adn i couldn't hear it over my radio. i was thinking WTF does taht have to do with you not knowing how to drive? at least i think that is what he was going off about, not real sure since he hardly spoke any english(those who know me understand how happy that makes me)

i had to climb over teh console and get out on the passenger side.
drivers side of the car is trashed. door destroyed, a-pillar looks tweaked, fender destroyed, cowl area looked twisted.....you get teh idea.

lucky for me there were 2 witneses walking out of the auto shop that is the front fo the building when all this happened. according to teh cop the witnesses and i all have teh same story and the dick wad that hit me was trying to say i slammed on the brakes and swerved without signaling. that still doesn't explain why he crossed into the oncoming lane and hit me, but it is his story so he gets to tell it his way.

cop said the other guy is getting at least 2 tickets(more once they measure out the skid marks to confirm his speed) and that i was in no way at fault.

i get to take off from work tomorrow, although i will prolly be in a bit of pain so that is sort of useless. :?

later
tim

[Savage_Messiah]

Sucks man, but at least you're alright... I have some extra Vicodin up here if ya want it :?

[Untamed]

Glad to hear you're ok Tim. Sorry about the car, but at least it was the beater. Hopefully the insurance company wont hassle you.

And yeah, its amazing how people completely in the wrong will argue very loudly, and very determinedly that you did something to cause the accident. Its even worse with a thick accent.

Good luck.

[The Fixer]

Oh Tim, I'm so sorry to hear! Can't believe we were just talking about bad accidents and stuff last weekend at Whiskey, and now you're in another! Hope you feel better soon, and good luck getting some $$ from the asshat that wrecked you!

[ShitOnWheels]

Sorry hun. :(

[MyLittlePony]

AW hun i'm sorry! :?
Glad you're ok though...

[bad64chevelle]

damn man, good to hear you are ok though. Isnt your neck starting to "hurt"? Get what im saying?

[NJSPEEDER]

thanks everybody.
i am doin good. as of now there is no need for the prescriptions they gave me. they did warn me that i will feel it more tomorrow morning.
i am just a little stiff from getting rattled around. no big deal considering the potential consequences.
at least the doctor at teh hospital gave me a pass for work tomorrow. if i am not too stiff i guess i will just have to get some work done on my camaro :)
i am thinking i will also take teh drive over to talk to frank bash about my short block, hopefully this time i will actually make it into the parking lot. :?


later
tim

[foff667]

that sux...you thinkin its totalled? sorry to hear about the car but at least your ok.

[NJSPEEDER]

not sure if it is going to be totaled or not. shoudl be a nice big number though.
it is the door, front fender, and all teh **** that connects in between. the left front suspension is also completely mangled. it is still a fairly new car, so i don't know what percentage they will total it out at.

later
tim

[NJSPEEDER]

:D to make myself feel better i jsut spent $300 on parts for the camaro. :D

later
tim

[Tru2Chevy]

Well Tim, as much as I hate to say it...that extra $1 a month may pay off if the car does end up getting totaled.

Glad you are ok man!

- Justin

[Fasterthanyou]

WOW, glad you're okay. Think of it this way, it's one less slow 4-banger on the road so in a way you're doing the world a favor :P .

[12secondv6]

:( sorry man, feel better!

[JL8Jeff]

That'll teach you to go over to PA! Those people are maniacs! :lol: Glad to hear you're not beat up too bad. Sounds like the car will be totalled and I would push for it since nobody will ever want to buy even if it is "fixed".

[Mike]

thats right by my dads shop.......when we were talkin about doing my heads and cam, he wanted me to take the heads over to bash

[Pampered-Z]

Glad your OK. You said you wanted a little rest after all the running for the F-body nats, so now you have too.


That'll teach you to go over to PA! Â*Those people are maniacs! :lol: ".

Now your starting to sound like U.B. :D

But That's what happens when out-of-town and out-of-country drivers try to make a turn without the use of a circle! :twisted:

[Koll]

the alero is dead?














yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[foff667]

the alero is dead?


yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

you didnt want another shot at beating it? :lol:

[skorpion317]

that sucks Tim. sue the ****er for "pain and suffering", as well as the value of the car.

[NJSPEEDER]

here is the damage. couldn't really get good shots of it cause of where they had it parked. i coudl see that the damage is actually worse than i originally thought.

http://www.njfboa.org/TimImages/WreckedAlero1.jpg

the guys at mcafferty(sp?) ford's body shop think it may be totaled. we will see. i am gonna have it moved to a local place that my insurance deals with adn get a definate answer next week.

later
tim

[foff667]

edmunds values it at ~10 grand...definitly looks damn close to 70% of that value...it will be close but I might lean towards it not being totalled from just that pic.

[12secondv6]

You could buy my NEON!!!!!!!!!!

That would be hot!!!!

[NJSPEEDER]

You could buy my NEON!!!!!!!!!!

That would be hot!!!!

i got stuck with a neon from enterprise. i used to just make fun of neons to be a PITA to james, now i realize they are complete pieces of ****.
road noise is ridiculous, an old lady using a walker could beat this thing in the 1/4 mile, and the seats are so ****** i can't even describe them.
it is practically a new car and there is loose trim and ****. i can't imagine what would motivate anyone to buy one of these things.[/rant]

later
tim

[foff667]

You could buy my NEON!!!!!!!!!!

That would be hot!!!!

i got stuck with a neon from enterprise. i used to just make fun of neons to be a PITA to james, now i realize they are complete pieces of ****.
road noise is ridiculous, an old lady using a walker could beat this thing in the 1/4 mile, and the seats are so ****** i can't even describe them.
it is practically a new car and there is loose trim and ****. Â*i can't imagine what would motivate anyone to buy one of these things.[/rant]

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tim

I get to ride in a late 90's neon about once a week here at work...that thing is a death trap...i cant wait till dot puts it out to pasture...I also get my choice of a 200x cavi what a pos they are...at least the base model and a focus wagon...dunno if its the base wagon but I'd choose that over my other options any day.

[Fasterthanyou]

That looks totalled. Just looking at how far in the damage is and where it's at makes me think the firewall is fubar.
Total it and get something different.

[NJSPEEDER]

not up to me. insurance says 75% of valueis teh automatic total point. there is a wide margin where they will get my feedback on if they shoudl save it or not.
i am honestly not sure what is better for me. with used car prices dropping the way they have recently my car isn't worth too much, so if it is totaled i basically get nothing back from it. but if i get it back it won't have nearly the resale value because it has been in a major accident.
in the meantime i get to spend $8 a day renting a car and making payments on a car that may be totaled.

i did already start shopping in case teh car is gone. figured i may as well be prepared. i am gonna shop for a full size pick up, nothign fancy, just a pick up with a V8 that i can do some mild towing/hauling with.

later
tim

[foff667]

i did already start shopping in case teh car is gone. figured i may as well be prepared. i am gonna shop for a full size pick up, nothign fancy, just a pick up with a V8 that i can do some mild towing/hauling with.

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tim

see http://www.njfboa.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5656 nothing against nothing fancy pickups & if you have the cash to pay for it outright the more power to ya but getting 10-15mpg & having a 22+ gallon tank will not make your fillups happy days.

[12secondv6]

You could buy my NEON!!!!!!!!!!

That would be hot!!!!

i got stuck with a neon from enterprise. i used to just make fun of neons to be a PITA to james, now i realize they are complete pieces of ****.
road noise is ridiculous, an old lady using a walker could beat this thing in the 1/4 mile, and the seats are so ****** i can't even describe them.
it is practically a new car and there is loose trim and ****. Â*i can't imagine what would motivate anyone to buy one of these things.[/rant]

later
tim

:lol: neon hater!

To understand the sexiness...... you must own a sexiness!

[NJSPEEDER]

james, my 1984 cavalier was more refined and nearly as quick away from a stop. '05 neon = 0 sexiness

later
tim

[Slow_88]

sorry to hear about your accident but atleast you are ok...

[foff667]

im thinkin cobalt ss or ion redline with the employee discount tim :)

[JPiZZiJP]

Sorry to hear about your accident Tim... you might want to get your neck and spine checked by a chiropractor just in case.... I got hit by a drunk driver back in high school and that caused me permanent neck damage, but I never got it checked out right away. Good thing you had witnesses. Best of luck.

[NJSPEEDER]

i was planning a trip to my family doctor to follow up on my neck. i don't think it will turn anything up, but i want to be safe about this. only symptoms i have had the whole time are more like muscle strain than anything else. actually i feel almost back to 100%. only slightly stiff if i try to turn my head all the way to the right.

foff667, i am looking at pick up trucks. nothing fancy, 1500 chevy or dodge, V8 4wd. that is only if the car is totaled and i decide to buy new. if i go used i will likely end up with another f-body :) the only new car that i am really interested in is the solstice with teh turbo motor, and that won't be out until the '07 model year anyway(240hp and 2350lbs :D).

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tim

[j0n]

yea and if you bought the solstice you'd find a way to rip another 800 lbs out of it

[NJSPEEDER]

yea and if you bought the solstice you'd find a way to rip another 800 lbs out of it

and??? :finger:

later
tim

[NJSPEEDER]

i jsut talked to the body shop adn looked at teh car some more. sounds like they think it will be in the repair range. i dunno what to think of that.
at this point this whole thing is gonna cost me a bbunch of cash either way and i get make payments on a car i likely won't see again for another month. :(
once teh estimate is written up i will get to talk to the adjuster about it.

later
tim

[foff667]

yah dude...when my car got smacked up & matt was talking about how long it would take(2 months) figure in 1 1/2 months of rental $ coming strait outta pocket that **** sucks balls.

[NJSPEEDER]

in a reversal of my previous post.......lol
i just stopped at the shop and cleaned out teh alero. bid it a final goodbye as well.
mike stopped writing the ticket when he hit the $8600 mark and didn't even have all teh labor added in yet. insurance company accepted and that was that.
had the car for exactly 8 months, dec 18 2004 - aug 18 2005. odometer had 75 miles on it when i picked it up and 15, 748.3 when it was killed.
i am sort of mixed about this. it was teh first new car i ever owned, not my favorite car i have ever owned, but definately a comfortable adn reliable piece.


later
tim

[foff667]

cough*cobalt ss*cough

[NJSPEEDER]

i am not gonna get a cobalt bill. i already owned a cavalier, a cavalier type R doesn't appeal to me :P
i am nto sure what i am gonna do. i have access to several 3rd gens which woudl be nice cause i already know a ton about them adn can practically build one from spare parts i have here. the other option i am looking at is a 1500 dodge ram(4x4 w/ da HEMI). with prices teh way they are right now i could get the truck and only pay a few more bucks a month than i was for the alero.
we will see. i jsut have to decide if i wanna drive new or save money rockin a used car.

later
tim

[Pampered-Z]

Another 3rd gen? you already got one in the driveway?

Maybe it's just the wrong color? How about this

http://xsorbit27.com/users5/goldenlugnut/index.php?topic=712.0

[NJSPEEDER]

taht would be nice as hell, but i doubt i can talk mikey down into my price range. lol
i did see an ad on TGO for a 91 Z28 1LE car with only 68k on teh clock taht caught my eye. full 1LE package, including radio delete :D it is a 5spd + LB9 car.

later
tim

[PDubs87Z28]

Another 3rd gen? Â*you already got one in the driveway? Â*

Maybe it's just the wrong color? Â*How about this

http://xsorbit27.com/users5/goldenlugnut/index.php?topic=712.0
:omg: I'd really like to own that

[Fasterthanyou]

I've got a station wagon here that needs brakes, battery, and a tune-up to run. Low miles :) , will sell cheap. $100 and I'll even help wrench on it. The car has been my neighbors grandmothers car for a LONG time, then she lost license and we got it for $100 after it had been sitting. Again, it's an offer. Might even be good for a demo-durby :twisted: .

[JL8Jeff]

Hmmm, you get smacked in your Alero in 8 months and it's totalled, UB gets smacked in his SRT4 in less than a year and it's totalled. Now I know why I don't buy new cars, they get into accidents and are totalled! :? Well, it probably worked out for the best in your case Tim. And now you get to search around for another F-body to drive.

[BigAls87Z28]

Tell me thoes arent the original gator backs on that IROC....*shudders*

[badzracing]

i am not gonna get a cobalt bill. i already owned a cavalier, a cavalier type R doesn't appeal to me :P
i am nto sure what i am gonna do. i have access to several 3rd gens which woudl be nice cause i already know a ton about them adn can practically build one from spare parts i have here. the other option i am looking at is a 1500 dodge ram(4x4 w/ da HEMI). with prices teh way they are right now i could get the truck and only pay a few more bucks a month than i was for the alero.
we will see. i jsut have to decide if i wanna drive new or save money rockin a used car.

later
tim SILVERADO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hemi's are GAY! I have never ever ever had any competition from a junker ass ram.

[foff667]

how many trannies hav eyou gone through again dave?

[Tru2Chevy]

how many trannies hav eyou gone through again dave?

I think it's ok to blow up transmissions once in a while when you have a blown 6.0L in a truck.....

- Justin

[foff667]

dude he went through like 3 m5's when it was just the 4.8 in there...now hes sheared off some pin twice in the 700r4 that he built for it...dont get me wrong 5000lbs+6.0+12psi=something is gonna break but geez.

[Tru2Chevy]

Damn, I didn't know he went through 3 M5s. I'm kinda surprised at the 700 though, doesn't he build them for a living? :lol:

- Justin

[foff667]

Damn, I didn't know he went through 3 M5s. I'm kinda surprised at the 700 though, doesn't he build them for a living? Â*:lol:

- Justin

it was some pin that keeps shearing off...i dont think theres much he can do in the situation other then build a 400 which I think he's doing soon for it.

[Tru2Chevy]

it was some pin that keeps shearing off...i dont think theres much he can do in the situation other then build a 400 which I think he's doing soon for it.

Yea, he told me last night that he was gonna build a 400 for it.

[/hijack]

- Justin

[Untamed]

If you're looking for opinions Tim, I would vote for the truck. You already have the f-body to work on. Get something that is practical, but isn't a gas hog - well, something better than 10mpg.

Depending on how often you have people in your car, you might consider a crew cab.

Like you said, nothing fancy, but will do what you need it to do.

Then get back to work on the Camaro. :wink:

[badzracing]

The m5's were notorious for being week ( as are the chrysler/dodge's m5's). Because of how the 700 operates, the band anchor pins take a lot of abuse when shifting to 2nd and 4th. Add 5000lbs and in upwards of 600 horse, and you're asking for trouble. I knew going into this deal that the 700r4 would probably not be able to handle what I was going to throw at it. I was hoping that using the best of the best parts would make it strong enough to handle the power and weight, but obviously it can't. ANYHOW, I said hemi's were gay, not the transmissions that backed them ( although if you go on any hemi boards you'll see that trannies and rears are breaking at an astounding rate). And for the record ( ask Justin) I'm still driving it even with the sheared pin and gaurantee I'll kill any hemi junker even in it's current state!!! Thank you, that is all :lol:

[Tru2Chevy]

And for the record ( ask Justin) I'm still driving it even with the sheared pin and gaurantee I'll kill any hemi junker even in it's current state!!! Â* Thank you, that is all Â*:lol:

Dave, I think just throwing a rev at any "new hemi" on the road would be enought to scare them away....that thing sounds badass!

- Justin

[badzracing]

And for the record ( ask Justin) I'm still driving it even with the sheared pin and gaurantee I'll kill any hemi junker even in it's current state!!! Â* Thank you, that is all Â*:lol:

Dave, I think just throwing a rev at any "new hemi" on the road would be enought to scare them away....that thing sounds badass!

- Justin Thanks, bro.

[NJSPEEDER]

I've got a station wagon here that needs brakes, battery, and a tune-up to run. Low miles :) , will sell cheap. $100 and I'll even help wrench on it. The car has been my neighbors grandmothers car for a LONG time, then she lost license and we got it for $100 after it had been sitting. Again, it's an offer. Might even be good for a demo-durby Â*:twisted: .

would that be the ultra clean station wagon sitting over by teh barn for all these years? teh pontiac wagon? hmmmmm, home for 455 sitting in garage. sleeper value very high :D

later
tim

[Pampered-Z]

Tell me thoes arent the original gator backs on that IROC....*shudders*

Don't know could be, In the CJCFO club in a guy "Big Show" has a 97 WS6/Ramair with 940 miles that has the original air in the tires! Think he wants 25G's for it?

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

Tim being your friend for all this time, well a few years whatever anyway i think you should go wit the truck, bring another dodge into the crew so i dont feel so left out plus imagine all the **** you can do to that thing, its gonna be great in the winter you always need a truck anyway so go for it :cheers:

[foff667]

Tim being your friend for all this time, well a few years whatever anyway i think you should go wit the truck, bring another dodge into the crew so i dont feel so left out plus imagine all the **** you can do to that thing, its gonna be great in the winter you always need a truck anyway so go for it Â* Â* :cheers:

my only thing against him getting a truck is gas mileage...he likes to go here & there to events, meets & whatever...not to mention his work is rarely near his home...getting 10-15mpg in a full size truck whether new or old IMO wouldnt be his best option...personally if I were in his position & knew a full out race car was a couple of years away I'd get a decent gas mileage beater like kelly's hyundai...probably gets 25-30mpg and isnt horrible to look at & drive every day for a couple of years & its something that could be had for less then 5 grand meaning either a very short term loan or if he had the $ saved up he could pay for it outright & go from there...I dont personally think he needs a truck but im not him nor am I in his shoes so i dunno what he needs.

[Tru2Chevy]

A truck is always handy to have, but I agree with Bill when it comes to practicality. He put ~15k miles on the Alero in 8 months, and doing that in a truck would have cost about double at the gas pump. IIRC the Alero knocked down over 30mpg on a regular basis.

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

the trucks i am considering all get 22-25 rated on the highway, and anyone who knows me understands that i always get better than teh rated mileage.

later
tim

[foff667]

yah we know why :grampsch:

[jims69camaro]

owned

i say get both a truck and something economical, if it's a financial possibility.

[foff667]

owned

i say get both a truck and something economical, if it's a financial possibility.

i dont think having to insure two cars would be financially responsible. :shrug:

[jims69camaro]

well, the cost for each goes down for every car you add to the policy... if you can get five cars you can get mini-fleet insurance. Â*[/not so helpful advice]

[Tru2Chevy]

owned

i say get both a truck and something economical, if it's a financial possibility.

i dont think having to insure two cars would be financially responsible. :shrug:

That would actually make three....he's got the Camaro on the policy as well.

- Justin