i hate cops

[GrandmasterCow]

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[GP99GT]

what a cumdumpster. just cause this egomaniacal ********** is having a bad day, he takes it out on others... what a scumbag. you should be able to get that speeding ticket taken away no problem, since he couldnt prove it with radar. i still cant believe he punched your window, isnt that kinda like aggravated assault or something?

[enRo]

Isnt that forceful entry without a warrant or some ********? You were not at fault IMHO. Thats really ****ed up. Even if he is having a bad day, he shouldnt be breaking windows. You can definately fight the speeding ticket though. GL

[PDubs87Z28]

yeah when you left you should have been like im ganna have you badge mounted on my wall once you get fired and can't get another job!! State Trooper dicked me over with my ticket and told me he paced me at 80 but clocked me at 70. THEN gave me a ticket for 80 and checks 'Pace' on the bottom. When i go to court im ganna tell the judge im guilty for doing 70 in a 65(because he got that on radar) but not guilty for 80 in a 65 because u can't pace someone when you're PARKED on the side of 78.

[foff667]

good luck hopefully he'll have his day soon :)

[Fasterthanyou]

Maybe I'm the only one but from your description I'd say you got a little bit of what was coming to you.
First off, never, and I do mean NEVER bring you your family's connections. That was just dumb and secondly, if he wants to be the ******* so be it, don't be one back. You probably could have gotten away with a simple loud exhaust ticket if you had kept quiet and just let him have is power trip.
Secondly, why did you disagree with the officer outright? You pretty much belittled him when he was doing his job. Would you like it if somebody came up to you and started mouthing off about how dumb your were? I doubt it. Instead, disagree with him by asking him where you almost hit these kids. Then tell him you didn't see anybody. If he wants to say tuff **** just ask him if he's got a witness because as far as you can tell nobody was hit :) . That's how you respectfully disagree without striking a nerve.
But hey, I wasn't there so I won't make any more judgement calls. Obviously what he did was complete BS but you didn't make things any better by bringing up your mother's political ties. Heck, my Mom's been mayor, depute mayor, township committee, AND police commissioner. I've been pulled over COUNTLESS times with harrasement from cops. They eventually radio in my license and registration then get the "word" from the dispatch that the last name is on some kind of list and they come back all apologetic (when pulled over for BS reasons).
My last point and this might really tick you off but he could easily get away with punching out your window. You said the door didn't open, that's probably illegal so he could have said that you wouldn't open the door and the law is on his side. Since he couldn't open the door he had to get to you somehow or another... it's sick and stupid but that's how they can get away with murder. Hence my point of this reply, don't piss off a cop, it'll never turn out good for you.

[NJSPEEDER]

actually jon, an officer may never make a forceful action against any person or property without being threatened by it. unless the door jumped at teh officer he had no right to touch it much less hit it.
truth of the matter is that when you get pulled over you have more rights than the cop does. he may have the power to write a bunch of tickets, but you have the power to cost him his job.
one thing you shoudl remeber in teh future though, if you get loud with a cop you are much more likely to have this problem. telling a cop the way things really are in a calm tone of voice will piss them off to some degree, but not nearly as much as running off about who your family is or yelling at them.
my advice would be to get a lawyer when you go to court and make sure those who were with you show up to testify.

later
tim

[coldkilla]

yeah i have to agree with you guys. ive gotten out of so many tickets only because i came close to being a cop myself before i left cali and i have a lot of friends that turned out to be cops so i understand what kind of person it takes to be one. most cops are egotistical and like being in charge. you have to recognize this and check your ego because when it comes down to it, their ego will win every time. ive always just been polite, admitted what i was doing, if indeed i did it, and nonchalantly flashed my old marine corps id. never did i take it out of my wallet to let him see it, you cant spout off about connections cuz that definitely pisses them off, nothing worse then them doing there job and someone getting off because of "connections". anyways, the cop always let me go and one time even when i was doing 75 in a 25 (i was tapping my leg and saying that i really had to take a **** and i lived around the corner, i worked). just have a clean record, play dumb so the cop can seem smart by schooling you (oh officer i didnt know my inspection was up i forgot to check my card. "well the sticker on your license plate tells you when it is due" oh really i didnt know thanks. "just be more attentive in the future" yeah this really happened to me!) and be respectful. youll get away with murder every single time.

[Tru2Chevy]

That sucks man, but you signed your own death warrent right here:

then eventually i tell him is it okay to harass a judges son? ill make sure that my mom hears of this.

- Justin

[qwikz28]

the only thing that sucks is that its a bunch of kids word against the cops'. thats not gonna fly well in court. but when you do go, try to act all proper and stuff so the judge thinks your legit. take pictures of your car and stuff too. i got a lawyer for my reckless driving case and he helped out alot, if you are worried about points and such, i would definately recomend getting a good lawyer. just my 2 cents.

ps- dont sweat it cause not all cops are like that. i got pulled over last night doing double the limit, with no seat belt, blasting the radio, at like 2 am. he let me off with a noisy muffler ticket and said if i threw the stocker back on or took it to court he'd drop it for me, but couldnt let me off with nothing, so he gave me the most insignificant ticket he could find.

... so in conclusion, that cop was a huge testicle

[j0n]

[hijack] jacob was it a pway cop? and if it was didja catch the name?

[somss02]

same here

[chevyt454]

That guy is the true meaning of a badge going to someone's head. Punching the window was unprofessional & uncalled for. I bet a call to break up something violent comes in, he'll be nowhere to be found.

[qwikz28]

[hijack] jacob was it a pway cop? and if it was didja catch the name?
nah in upstate NY. havent gotten pulled over in piscataway yet

[jims69camaro]

most of the time it's not what you say, but how you say it... you could've **** all over him without raising your voice or claim he was threatening. worst thing in the world is having someone claim that they can get out of the ticket the cop'll write, before he even gets around to writing.

he might've thought you were acting like a spoiled brat-kid-of-a-judge, or something.

his actions may prove to be reprehensible, but that doesn't excuse your behavior.

[BlueFBird]

u guys might get all pissed and whatnot at cops, but trutfully its their job... u really dont understand what the job is exactly about unless u live it or watch a family member put the uniform on an go to work everyday...how would u like it everytime u were headin off to duty havin to kiss ur kids an wife or family everyday not knowin if you are going to be commin home...nething can happen when that uniform goes on nething. Â*what i heard at many interviews applin for jobs at pds, its not jus a paycheck u get u get payed for what u might have to do. Â*so when they go out everyday to work and get **** from the scum of the earth how would u feel? its not like they keep to sit in their comfy chair with their nice desk..they lay their life on the line to protect civilians and keep the community safe......

[GrandmasterCow]

yeah it was stupid of me to bring up my moms occupation. lol but yeah, i talked to her earlier today and she said she got me outta both tickets but only this time lol. because she knew the officer but he didin't put two and two together because she uses her maiden last name for work, and her rgular last name for other things, so my name and hers that he knew didint match. and the window thing i have taken care of since there wasn't as much damage as i originalyl though since i was worked up and all.

[jims69camaro]

u guys might get all pissed and whatnot at cops, but trutfully its their job... u really dont understand what the job is exactly about unless u live it or watch a family member put the uniform on an go to work everyday...how would u like it everytime u were headin off to duty havin to kiss ur kids an wife or family everyday not knowin if you are going to be commin home...nething can happen when that uniform goes on nething. Â*what i heard at many interviews applin for jobs at pds, its not jus a paycheck u get u get payed for what u might have to do. Â*so when they go out everyday to work and get **** from the scum of the earth how would u feel? its not like they keep to sit in their comfy chair with their nice desk..they lay their life on the line to protect civilians and keep the community safe......

i can only feel a certain amount towards this end. it's a chosen profession; no one is born into cop slavery or anything. so while they lay their life on the line everyday (not everyday, but you never know what might happen) they chose to lay their life on the line.

i feel the same way about judges. some lawyers get it into their heads that one day they'll be judges, but not everyone who gets into law thinks that way. you hear about a judge getting death threats and what-not, but no one twisted his arm to accept the appointment.

[jimmyboy8301]

i work as a police dispatcher and am a supervisor and soon hope to be a police officer. 99% of the cops i work with are great guys and some of them i call good friends. Maybe you just happened to stumble across one that was having a bad day. You definately stepped over the line threatening his job and yelling that your mom was a judge. I can tell you for a fact that when i'm at work and someone says "oh yea my dad, brother, uncle, cousin, friend and so on" is a cop i really don't give a ****. Thats great for them but i help everyone equally, no one gets special treatment. And saying you'll have your revenge on him can ONLY get you arrested for disorderly conduct and your mom as she said will only be able to help you so much. You should just keep your mouth shut and appologize and if need be go talk to your mom to see what she can do. Whether you like it or not you are probably now on that guy's and a few others cops **** list. As for taking a officers job the PBA and FOB have much much more power than you can believe and it is EXTREMELY difficult, if not near impossible to have any effect on an officers career unless he did something terrible. I agree that officer did go to far but all you did was escalate the situation.

[BlueFBird]

u guys might get all pissed and whatnot at cops, but trutfully its their job... u really dont understand what the job is exactly about unless u live it or watch a family member put the uniform on an go to work everyday...how would u like it everytime u were headin off to duty havin to kiss ur kids an wife or family everyday not knowin if you are going to be commin home...nething can happen when that uniform goes on nething. Â*what i heard at many interviews applin for jobs at pds, its not jus a paycheck u get u get payed for what u might have to do. Â*so when they go out everyday to work and get **** from the scum of the earth how would u feel? its not like they keep to sit in their comfy chair with their nice desk..they lay their life on the line to protect civilians and keep the community safe......

i can only feel a certain amount towards this end. Â*it's a chosen profession; no one is born into cop slavery or anything. Â*so while they lay their life on the line everyday (not everyday, but you never know what might happen) they chose to lay their life on the line.

i feel the same way about judges. Â*some lawyers get it into their heads that one day they'll be judges, but not everyone who gets into law thinks that way. Â*you hear about a judge getting death threats and what-not, but no one twisted his arm to accept the appointment.

they choose!? im sorry without them u wouldnt be safe...jus like without troops u wouldnt have freedom right now. so unsless u want drugs and guns all over ur town and takin crime off the streets that what they put their life on the line for...thats just ingorant to say somethin stupid like they chose to throw their life in danger. put a uniform on an strap a gun on ur hip and try to do what they do. I dont think u understand the importance an how important officers layin their life on the line and being killied in the line of duty is. so dont insult my job my brothers job or other cops like that. just think... and im not tryin to insult you but that post got to me

[jims69camaro]

as usual, you missed the point. i wasn't insulting anyone, i merely stated that these people chose their profession. no one is forcing people to become cops.

[Fasterthanyou]

as usual, you missed the point. i wasn't insulting anyone, i merely stated that these people chose their profession. no one is forcing people to become cops.
Exactly how I feel about the military... when it's not a draft. My cousin is in the air force as an electronics war-fare officer on the B-52's (drops the bombs). We never treated him any different but always celebrated his returns. Treating somebody different because of their profession is just dumb and expecting to be treated different is even dumber. It's the same with most handicaps, they don't want to be treated differently (well at least the good ones don't).

I give cops a mutual respect. Every time I get pulled over I have a normal conversation with the officer. They like that. They don't want you kissing ass and they don't want you being a dick so be NORMAL. Being nervous isn't cool either. Just be calm and collected.

[BlueFBird]

yes but those people be it they are miltary or law enforcing deserve tremendous respect for the jobs they do...your ritght it is their choice to go into dangerous jobs, their certanily not doin it for themselves, would u put yourself in that job?...so how can u not say thats a honerable respectable position..same thing goes for firefighters...they chose to run into burning buildings to save people lives everyday. you catch my drift here.

[jimmyboy8301]

i think what justin is trying to say is that people in that profession are held at a higher standard. Example if someone that worked at mcdonalds killed someone verses a firefighter, police officer, or serviceman killed someone it would be a much bigger deal if the latter did it. Their job is much tougher in all aspects of life than most jobs, so there is no harm in giving them just a little more respect for the job that they do.

[GrandmasterCow]

yup, its okay when cops abuse power, you know. we have no protection against it. if a cop is having a bad day, its okay for him to take it out upon civilians. yes, cops are allowed to break the law (as ive been pulled over for tint by a cop car thats already tinted). there aren't too many honest cops out there anymore, and the ones that are, i thank greatly because they attempt to keep law enforcement's good name. but i find that most cops now-a-days are unjust towards younger populations, even if they don't do anything agaisnt the law, they still get treated as if they're criminals anymore.

[jimmyboy8301]

maybe where you live, but where i work ( i work with about 150+) officers i would have to say that most of them are decent guys and are just trying to do their job. Listen, you are going to have a bad apple in the bunch everywhere you go. And it can be said that there are many unfair and unjust judges out there also, taking their bad days out on whatever poor dumb schmuck happens to walk into the court. This carries out for any other profession. I find it hard to believe, actually I don't believe that every single cop you have ever dealt with in your life has been a dick. FYI no one here is saying cops should be allowed to do what they want when they want, but believe me they have far more traning in what to look for than you.

[jimmyboy8301]

. yes, cops are allowed to break the law (as ive been pulled over for tint by a cop car thats already tinted).

this doesn't even warrent an answer, however i highly doubt the officer decided one day to go tint his patrol car at his own expence because it "looks cool". Many of the patrol cars that are tinted are stealth cars, and K-9 cars. The main reason for tint on police cars is because they are stuck inthe cars sometimes as much as 12-16 hours a day and the constant glare from the sun obviously is not good and the tint lessons the strain on the eyes. You cant have tint because when an officer stops your vehicle he needs to see in the vehicle and tint prohibits that. Many ambulances are tinted also.

[Tsar]

So cops in other states dont need to see whats inside your car when you get pulled over? weird...

[jimmyboy8301]

So cops in other states dont need to see whats inside your car when you get pulled over? weird...

almost every other state has SOME type of tint law, NJ just happens to be one of the most strict states as they are on most things. Or did you not realize NJ was a strict state. Hey guess what we need front plates too, weird huh?

[jims69camaro]

so how can u not say thats a honerable respectable position

i'll tell you what - show me where i said it's not an honorable, respectable profession, and i will acquiese. you're acting like a woman when she argues, bouncing around from one subject to another; because she is not winning her points she bounces over to something else that she thinks is winnable.

i never said i don't have respect for cops. i never said they are honorless cretins that should be treated like lepers. i just don't think they, because of their job, should be treated any differently. and just because i don't put a badge on and strap up doesn't mean i know nothing about what they do. remember, law enforcement is a huge money maker - you either know a cop personally or know a criminal personally, it's big business no matter which side of the fence you're on. i have a brother--in-law and a nephew that are state cops. no one forced them to go into that profession, they made up their own minds. and i treat them no differently than any of my other relatives.

[jimmyboy8301]

http://www.tintdude.com/laws.html there are the laws by state.

[Tsar]

So cops in other states dont need to see whats inside your car when you get pulled over? weird...

almost every other state has SOME type of tint law, NJ just happens to be one of the most strict states as they are on most things. Or did you not realize NJ was a strict state. Hey guess what we need front plates too, weird huh?ohh im aware that jersey has strict laws and thats why i hate it. I cant even pump my own gas for gods sake! I used to live in florida and no tint laws, no emissions, ur car can be as loud as you damn please and i didnt have to wait for a douchetards at the gas station to get to my car to pump my gas. I know, i know i should move back, right?

[jimmyboy8301]

did you check the link?? florida DOES have a tint law. Tint can only be 15% on back windows and no darker than 28% on the front with a 3% margin. The windshield tint can only come down to the AS1 line. Yea I agree that jersey sucks, but ya live here and have to deal with it. Your post made it sound as if you were shocked we can't tint our front windows at all.

[Tsar]

did you check the link?? florida DOES have a tint law. Tint can only be 15% on back windows and no darker than 28% on the front with a 3% margin. The windshield tint can only come down to the AS1 line. Yea I agree that jersey sucks, but ya live here and have to deal with it. Your post made it sound as if you were shocked we can't tint our front windows at all.You posted 1 minute before i did so i didnt have a chance to check it out. And i know that jersey has tint laws, ive gotten a ticket twice for it :lol: before i took it off. Yea i guess they do have a law in florida about tint but i guess its poorly enforced.

[Fasterthanyou]

yes but those people be it they are miltary or law enforcing deserve tremendous respect for the jobs they do...your ritght it is their choice to go into dangerous jobs, their certanily not doin it for themselves, would u put yourself in that job?...so how can u not say thats a honerable respectable position..same thing goes for firefighters...they chose to run into burning buildings to save people lives everyday. you catch my drift here.
See, that's where we disagree. When was the last time a firefighter thanked the engineers that were responsible for saving HIS life? Rather indirect I know, but it's a point I'm trying to make. The engineer might not have the desire to go into a burning building for money but he/she did a huge service in helping the front-line so to speak. It's a mutual respect from my perspective. Nobody earns more respect from their choice of profession. My final reasoning on this subject is this; If I was somebody's only hope I would do the same job as the professional and not expect to get paid or have a parade. So if you're in the profession for fame and glory then I don't like you. It should be more about doing your community a service because you get paid to do what you signed up to do, not paid to be worshiped. If you need an ego boost because things are slow going then fine, I'll give it to you because you need it more than I do.

[GrandmasterCow]

see i know not all cops are bad, i have some friends that are cops and ive gotten to know alotta local cops and most are bad, its just the ones that are, REALLY ARE bad around here, especially when they examine everything on your car and pile you up with tickets and take your pba/fop card. i mean, yeah cops take alotta ****, but they should always be so jumping to conclusions sometimes.

[BlueFBird]

yes but those people be it they are miltary or law enforcing deserve tremendous respect for the jobs they do...your ritght it is their choice to go into dangerous jobs, their certanily not doin it for themselves, would u put yourself in that job?...so how can u not say thats a honerable respectable position..same thing goes for firefighters...they chose to run into burning buildings to save people lives everyday. Â*you catch my drift here.
See, that's where we disagree. When was the last time a firefighter thanked the engineers that were responsible for saving HIS life? Rather indirect I know, but it's a point I'm trying to make. The engineer might not have the desire to go into a burning building for money but he/she did a huge service in helping the front-line so to speak. It's a mutual respect from my perspective. Nobody earns more respect from their choice of profession. My final reasoning on this subject is this; If I was somebody's only hope I would do the same job as the professional and not expect to get paid or have a parade. So if you're in the profession for fame and glory then I don't like you. It should be more about doing your community a service because you get paid to do what you signed up to do, not paid to be worshiped. If you need an ego boost because things are slow going then fine, I'll give it to you because you need it more than I do.

im not sayin it is jus for fame and glory...i cant say all take this perspective towards it but its not for the money its goin home at nite knowing u have made a difference..i understand what you are gettin at but for the most part my argument is without these people takin the resk they do who would? so i look up highly to these people be it a local firefighter or cop or marine in iraq... Â* back to the other comment by jims 69camaro. Â*the reason i came off as i did was because of the way you approched it in the first post towads "no one is forching them to go do what they do go out an risk their lives". Â*i guess i took it wrong but i got worked up towards the way you worded it.

[camaro2you]

So cops in other states dont need to see whats inside your car when you get pulled over? weird...

almost every other state has SOME type of tint law, NJ just happens to be one of the most strict states as they are on most things. Or did you not realize NJ was a strict state. Hey guess what we need front plates too, weird huh?ohh im aware that jersey has strict laws and thats why i hate it. I cant even pump my own gas for gods sake! I used to live in florida and no tint laws, no emissions, ur car can be as loud as you damn please and i didnt have to wait for a douchetards at the gas station to get to my car to pump my gas. I know, i know i should move back, right?

your not allowed to pump your own gas? :scratch:

[Tsar]

So cops in other states dont need to see whats inside your car when you get pulled over? weird...

almost every other state has SOME type of tint law, NJ just happens to be one of the most strict states as they are on most things. Or did you not realize NJ was a strict state. Hey guess what we need front plates too, weird huh?ohh im aware that jersey has strict laws and thats why i hate it. I cant even pump my own gas for gods sake! I used to live in florida and no tint laws, no emissions, ur car can be as loud as you damn please and i didnt have to wait for a douchetards at the gas station to get to my car to pump my gas. I know, i know i should move back, right?

your not allowed to pump your own gas? :scratch:thats what the sign says Â*:lol: also some times (not all of them) i tryed i got yelled at.

[Tsar]

Here i even googled it for you.


Law: You cannot pump your own gas. All gas stations are full service and full service only.

Country: United States

State/Province: New Jersey


Explanation: Oregeon and New Jersey are the only two states in the United States that require attendents to pump gas at gas stations. There are many arguments for it, but many are not very well substantiated. It is claimed that it should not matter because gas prices are lower in these two states. Insurance costs for gas stations go down slightly if a "qualified attendent" is pumping the gas, but they must also pay for the cost of hiring an extra worker. Combined with varying taxes on gasoline between states, its true affect on gas price is anyone's guess. It is also claimed that having your own gas pumped for you is superior because drivers don't have to brave the elements and fiddle with the gas pump and their gas cap. With the exception of a few elderly and disabled persons, most people are perfectly capable of getting out of their car in a covered area for five minutes and place a nozzle in their gas tank. Another argument is that by forcing consumers to go to gas stations with attendents, it helps out the job market. Opponents argue that employing these people is merely a waste of money, and if jobs are needed, other opportunities could easily be created (i.e. city beatification). Regardless of the truth behind the matter, Oregon and New Jersey are keeping this law on the books and fully enforcing it.


http://www.dumblaws.com/laws.php?site=laws&cid=184&region=30