View Full Version : God damn slow 4cyl cars at atco
GP99GT
08-29-2005, 04:53 PM
****ing ricers and their 4 cylinders with fart cannons
http://www.midnitetuners.com/MTVids/shep.mpg
:twisted:
LT!freak94
08-29-2005, 04:57 PM
hey man i was their i thank them cuz of nopi the chicks that were their were f'n hot and it was alot of fun if you were their you would have enjoyed it trust me and their were a couple of ss's in the car show that were lookin preety nice and they werent all riced up and their was a some hodas that werent riced up at all too and all out it was fun their was a really nice grand am you would have liked probly i dont know your taste but mabey
GP99GT
08-29-2005, 05:02 PM
If you couldnt sense the sarcasm about the 4 cyl imports thing, you need to get your sarcasm detector checked out :wink:
i have no problem with imports, or 4cyl engines...im not narrow minded like many of the muscleheads out there ("if its not a V8 and RWD, its crap!")
and grand ams arent really my taste...rental cars. the GT's are ok, but the 4cyl Grand Ams are slower than molasses, as i found out the other night when one tried to run me on the highway :lol:
LT!freak94
08-29-2005, 05:03 PM
o ok sry bought the rant lol but it was alot of fun mainly the bikini contest
most of the girls in that contest were gross.........
most of the racing was bye runs.........
and most of the cars in the show were pos's or rice........
it was a complete waste of 25 dollars....
but.
my friends 02 rsx won best of acura, another friends 02 wrx took second in the subaru class in the car show.
yeah, shep's car is nasty.
sheps dsm is the shiznit :hail: :hail: :hail:
Thats a very nice and quick DSM but DAMN does that car sounds like a mosquito!!!!
Fasterthanyou
08-30-2005, 12:25 AM
I hate 4 cylinders that don't rev into the 5 digits. Turbo, nitrous, AWD, heck, I don't care if it comes with a flux capacitor it still sounds like my 2-stroke weed-wacker.
Racing a 4-cylinder is like putting a kick me sign on your back, why do that to yourself? 6 is better but when you can get 8's as cheap as you can in the states why insult your fellow American's by buying and then RACING a 4-banger? I've yet to be impressed with even the evo's. Sure they're in the 12's but last time I checked the fastest evo was still hunting for single digits. How many "old" v8's have we all seen in the single digits, there, nuff said.
skorpion317
08-30-2005, 12:32 AM
damn that thing launches quick....
jims69camaro
08-30-2005, 01:13 AM
why insult your fellow American's by buying and then RACING a 4-banger?
as i so often ask, why buy them at all? there are 4-cyl american cars that can do the same thing if you put the same technology/dollars into them. it doesn't have to have 8 cylinders to get single digits, but it sure is cheaper.
skorpion317
08-30-2005, 02:41 AM
why insult your fellow American's by buying and then RACING a 4-banger?
as i so often ask, why buy them at all? there are 4-cyl american cars that can do the same thing if you put the same technology/dollars into them. it doesn't have to have 8 cylinders to get single digits, but it sure is cheaper.
if you look at all the "import" racing leagues and whatnot, most of them are led by American sport compacts. Dodge and Chevy own them all.
:stupid:
turbo ecotec owns all 8)
GP99GT
08-30-2005, 08:25 AM
it may be cheaper to have a V8 car...but if you like a certain car that happens to not really have room for anything bigger than the 4cyl, you have to make do with what youve got. its basically just trying to push the limit, be the underdog...enter James and G. Sure they could have V8 f-bodies easy, but they chose to go with the V6...because well its a V6, and not many people mod the hell out of them.
um...dsm is not an "import". so its a 4 cylinder, get over it - when your car becomes faster then sheps then ill listen to your opinion on how much it sucks
Tru2Chevy
08-30-2005, 09:42 AM
um...dsm is not an "import".
Since when is Mitsubishi an American company?
- Justin
um...dsm is not an "import".
Since when is Mitsubishi an American company?
- Justinwhere was dsm made?
GP99GT
08-30-2005, 09:47 AM
um...dsm is not an "import".
Since when is Mitsubishi an American company?
- Justinwhere was dsm made?
f-bods were made in canada....theyre imports :P
Ok so DSMs were built in america...but they are still imports at heart. Japanese drivetrain. Not that thats a bad thing, just explaining why its still considered an import.
well i consider things made in america not imports, i dunno maybe its just me. porsche 944 was import, mclaren is an import, enzo is an import, should i keep going? dsm is also not just mitsubishi. it was a joint effort between chrystler and mitsu. N/T's even had a 420a engine which is not japanese.
Tru2Chevy
08-30-2005, 09:53 AM
I look at where the profit from selling the car is going. Even though some "import" companies have setup manufacturing plants in the US, they are still based in other countries, and the money is going back there.
- Justin
um..is plymouth laser and eagle talon imports too? :shrug:
ninja-edit* i know those are part of "dsm". But a poster above me pointed out that sales from "dsm" were pocketed my mitsubishi, i assumed you meant mitsubishi eclipse. DSM was two companies so im pretty sure the sales from eagle talon were pocketed my chrystler and not mitsu.
um..is plymouth laser and eagle talon imports too? :shrug:
their guts are, yes.
um...not all dsms came with 4g63's
GP99GT
08-30-2005, 12:16 PM
um...not all dsms came with 4g63's
the only DSMs that matter did :lol:
seriously, who cares where it came from? its fast.
um...not all dsms came with 4g63's
seriously, who cares where it came from? its fast.i agree, however to some people if its not v8 it sucks :shrug:
sikbyrd350
08-30-2005, 12:22 PM
I hate 4 cylinders that don't rev into the 5 digits. Turbo, nitrous, AWD, heck, I don't care if it comes with a flux capacitor it still sounds like my 2-stroke weed-wacker.
Racing a 4-cylinder is like putting a kick me sign on your back, why do that to yourself? 6 is better but when you can get 8's as cheap as you can in the states why insult your fellow American's by buying and then RACING a 4-banger? I've yet to be impressed with even the evo's. Sure they're in the 12's but last time I checked the fastest evo was still hunting for single digits. How many "old" v8's have we all seen in the single digits, there, nuff said.
yeah, I agree with your feeling about the "killer bee" sound, BUT a lot of the turbo 4-awd cars are badass. I've only put $2K worth of parts into my EVO and am getting 335awhp(425 crank) in a car I can drag, autoX, hell even rally...or more importantly, drive year-round in NJ, traction problem free.
And EVO's have been in single digits for over a year now...the first one was built right in Edison at TurboTrix. It was also running heavier than stock weight(stupid ricer system's, I know, but that says somthing right there).
jims69camaro
08-30-2005, 04:23 PM
I look at where the profit from selling the car is going. Even though some "import" companies have setup manufacturing plants in the US, they are still based in other countries, and the money is going back there.
- Justin
exactly. follow the money to see if it's an import or not. as far as joint ventures go, i can see the interest from a marketing standpoint and i am sure it is cost efficient, but that just confuses things further. the corvette had a foreign heart at one point.
assembled in the USA does not make it a domestic vehicle, though.
Fasterthanyou
08-30-2005, 05:36 PM
I hate 4 cylinders that don't rev into the 5 digits. Turbo, nitrous, AWD, heck, I don't care if it comes with a flux capacitor it still sounds like my 2-stroke weed-wacker.
Racing a 4-cylinder is like putting a kick me sign on your back, why do that to yourself? 6 is better but when you can get 8's as cheap as you can in the states why insult your fellow American's by buying and then RACING a 4-banger? I've yet to be impressed with even the evo's. Sure they're in the 12's but last time I checked the fastest evo was still hunting for single digits. How many "old" v8's have we all seen in the single digits, there, nuff said.
yeah, I agree with your feeling about the "killer bee" sound, BUT a lot of the turbo 4-awd cars are badass. I've only put $2K worth of parts into my EVO and am getting 335awhp(425 crank) in a car I can drag, autoX, hell even rally...or more importantly, drive year-round in NJ, traction problem free.
And EVO's have been in single digits for over a year now...the first one was built right in Edison at TurboTrix. It was also running heavier than stock weight(stupid ricer system's, I know, but that says somthing right there).
Don't get me wrong. Being not impressed doesn't mean I don't like them! It's very hard to impress me. As for the TurboTrix evo, is that the bright orange metallic one? If so, I saw it last year and it wasn't running single digits, it was pulling mid to high 10's, I've even got a picture of it somewhere. They were still hunting for the 9's so it must have been REALLY late last season (fall) or this season that they broke that barrier. I talked to the guys running that car and they seemed rather... ah... dumb. Look at the cost of running 9's in an evo and then look at it with a v8 old school method. Again, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an evo but they're just too darn expensive for what I've seen bringing me back to my point of why race a 4 cylinder when there are lots of v8 choices that'll give you more bang for the buck. If being different is your thing that so be it. Just don't expect me to give you any kind of respect for racing a 4-cylinder. Make it fast and impress me, THEN we'll talk... I'm still waiting to be impressed.
GP99GT
08-30-2005, 05:41 PM
If i had money...i'd have a fast car with an I4, a V6, and a V8...just to confuse people
if i had enough cash id get a FXX and own all on a real track that counts (read track with turns!)... :lol: I mean if u got the money why settle for v8 when u can get 12 or even 16 cylinder? i thought id just throw that in Â*:P
Fasterthanyou
08-30-2005, 05:49 PM
if i had enough cash id get a FXX and own all on a real track that counts (read track with turns!)... :lol: I mean if u got the money why settle for v8 when u can get 12 or even 16 cylinder? i thought id just throw that in :P
That's my whole point. Why, if racing, would you want to avoid the best bang for the buck? The American v8's are by far the cheapest way to go fast and have fun... they just so happen to sound awesome... so what's up with these American's buying import 4 bangers and putting "performance" parts into them?
if i had enough cash id get a FXX and own all on a real track that counts (read track with turns!)... :lol: I mean if u got the money why settle for v8 when u can get 12 or even 16 cylinder? i thought id just throw that in Â*:P
That's my whole point. Why, if racing, would you want to avoid the best bang for the buck? The American v8's are by far the cheapest way to go fast and have fun... they just so happen to sound awesome... so what's up with these American's buying import 4 bangers and putting "performance" parts into them?Honestly, i dunno why they chose the cars they do. But that doesnt change that fact that ill give my respect to people like john shepard and brent rou, sure they might have 4bangers but they are pretty fast, one is 8.13 and the other one 7.84. I really dont care what kind of car the person has if its fast its fast. Me personally, like i said before, i would take an FXX and go own people at the autox but i dont have enough money. :shrug:
turbo trix had 2.......the orange one was slower, i dont remember the other ones color..
and as with any tuner, you have to discern between customers with decals and the actual shop car
I hate 4 cylinders that don't rev into the 5 digits. Turbo, nitrous, AWD, heck, I don't care if it comes with a flux capacitor it still sounds like my 2-stroke weed-wacker.
Racing a 4-cylinder is like putting a kick me sign on your back, why do that to yourself? 6 is better but when you can get 8's as cheap as you can in the states why insult your fellow American's by buying and then RACING a 4-banger? I've yet to be impressed with even the evo's. Sure they're in the 12's but last time I checked the fastest evo was still hunting for single digits. How many "old" v8's have we all seen in the single digits, there, nuff said.
yeah, I agree with your feeling about the "killer bee" sound, BUT a lot of the turbo 4-awd cars are badass. Â*I've only put $2K worth of parts into my EVO and am getting 335awhp(425 crank) in a car I can drag, autoX, hell even rally...or more importantly, drive year-round in NJ, traction problem free. Â*
And EVO's have been in single digits for over a year now...the first one was built right in Edison at TurboTrix. Â*It was also running heavier than stock weight(stupid ricer system's, I know, but that says somthing right there).
Don't get me wrong. Being not impressed doesn't mean I don't like them! It's very hard to impress me. As for the TurboTrix evo, is that the bright orange metallic one? If so, I saw it last year and it wasn't running single digits, it was pulling mid to high 10's, I've even got a picture of it somewhere. They were still hunting for the 9's so it must have been REALLY late last season (fall) or this season that they broke that barrier. I talked to the guys running that car and they seemed rather... ah... dumb. Look at the cost of running 9's in an evo and then look at it with a v8 old school method. Again, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an evo but they're just too darn expensive for what I've seen bringing me back to my point of why race a 4 cylinder when there are lots of v8 choices that'll give you more bang for the buck. If being different is your thing that so be it. Just don't expect me to give you any kind of respect for racing a 4-cylinder. Make it fast and impress me, THEN we'll talk... I'm still waiting to be impressed.
i think what george is getting at is that you will never make a rwd v8 handle or tackle the snow/rain/anything mother nature throws at you for the same amount of money he spent on and modding his evo...plus i believe the insurance was cheaper as well
not only that...but he'll do low 12s with that handling and snow-tackling power
sikbyrd350
08-31-2005, 10:58 AM
I hate 4 cylinders that don't rev into the 5 digits. Turbo, nitrous, AWD, heck, I don't care if it comes with a flux capacitor it still sounds like my 2-stroke weed-wacker.
Racing a 4-cylinder is like putting a kick me sign on your back, why do that to yourself? 6 is better but when you can get 8's as cheap as you can in the states why insult your fellow American's by buying and then RACING a 4-banger? I've yet to be impressed with even the evo's. Sure they're in the 12's but last time I checked the fastest evo was still hunting for single digits. How many "old" v8's have we all seen in the single digits, there, nuff said.
yeah, I agree with your feeling about the "killer bee" sound, BUT a lot of the turbo 4-awd cars are badass. I've only put $2K worth of parts into my EVO and am getting 335awhp(425 crank) in a car I can drag, autoX, hell even rally...or more importantly, drive year-round in NJ, traction problem free.
And EVO's have been in single digits for over a year now...the first one was built right in Edison at TurboTrix. It was also running heavier than stock weight(stupid ricer system's, I know, but that says somthing right there).
Don't get me wrong. Being not impressed doesn't mean I don't like them! It's very hard to impress me. As for the TurboTrix evo, is that the bright orange metallic one? If so, I saw it last year and it wasn't running single digits, it was pulling mid to high 10's, I've even got a picture of it somewhere. They were still hunting for the 9's so it must have been REALLY late last season (fall) or this season that they broke that barrier. I talked to the guys running that car and they seemed rather... ah... dumb. Look at the cost of running 9's in an evo and then look at it with a v8 old school method. Again, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an evo but they're just too darn expensive for what I've seen bringing me back to my point of why race a 4 cylinder when there are lots of v8 choices that'll give you more bang for the buck. If being different is your thing that so be it. Just don't expect me to give you any kind of respect for racing a 4-cylinder. Make it fast and impress me, THEN we'll talk... I'm still waiting to be impressed.
i think what george is getting at is that you will never make a rwd v8 handle or tackle the snow/rain/anything mother nature throws at you for the same amount of money he spent on and modding his evo...plus i believe the insurance was cheaper as well
BINGO, versitility is the name of my game. You wanna drag race me, that's fine, I will lose to a good number of cars on this sight. After the drag race, I will then challenge you to a autoX or better yet a rally race. I can hold my own for the money I've spent in a number of arenas, under a number of conditions.
I bought my car at the end of last August, and when I got home, picked up a copy of SCC or something like that, and the TT orange EVO had already hit 9's. Figure I picked up a Sept. issue that was released in August and written in July, so TT has been there for a little over a year. In dealing with them, on a one to one basis they come off a little tardish, but they know their shiit. They also have a twin-turbo Viper and new STi in the works.
I'm just saying for drag racing V8 performance is awesome and can't be touched for the dollar when getting into single digits, but not all roads are str8 lines and in NJ, road conditions aren't always optimal.
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