Grudge match of ALL Grudge Matches

[BigAls87Z28]

Derek vs Me
Oct 16th
Island

My car
1987 Z28
305 TPI 4spd Auto
Ported LB9 heads, ported and gutted intake, runners and plenum
ZZ4 Cam, Hedman Shortie headers coated, Catco 3in cat, Hooker cat back
(and with some help from Prevo *please*, a good tune)
9 bolt 3.23 Posi rear end

His car
1991 RS
305 TBI 5spd manual
Ported LB9 heads, ZZ4 Cam,Edel Headers, 3 in cat,
Take off catback from a 97 Z28, 3.73 rear end
(other mods will be edited in later)


The battle for best Third Gen EFI system is ON!!

[Savage_Messiah]

Hah, the 87 running, that's liek the new Camaro... I'll believe it when I see it.

[j0n]

see derek already won...you're car has been apart for 2 years...hes blown his motor, bought a new one, did a head/cam on the new one, and is gunna have the new one running and ready to rock in 2 weeks...not only that but you're gunna lose anyway...

[Tru2Chevy]

I'm gonna go with Derek on this one....sorry Al, but he's got gear :)

- Justin

[j0n]

ps: it took me and derek all of 2 hours from start to finish to pull out his automatic transmission...didnt it take you like 2 days al?

[Tru2Chevy]

didnt it take you like 2 days al?

Where's that sledgehammer?!?!? :rofl:

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

i get winner :D

76 Camaro LT
mild 350
mild stall
3.90 gears
235/60-15 street radials
and leaf springs with slapper bars BIATCH!!!!!!!

later
tim

[90FormulaWS6]

al maybe you should stop posting and get your car working... oh wait ive been telling you that for a year and a half :twisted:

[enRo]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-) If you do get that car running, it might be a close race. If Derek wins, it'll be because of the gears.


BTW Al, I saw your welp on TGO about a year and a half ago for a broken speedo needle :lol: :lol: Just thought id bring that up.

[90FormulaWS6]

i hope you like this picture al....

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/671000-671999/671144_14_full.jpg

[trashman01]

dont wry al, derek only drives a tbi car, and on the 16th me and derek are gonna run it, if my clutch last that long

[Fasterthanyou]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-) If you do get that car running, it might be a close race. If Derek wins, it'll be because of the gears.


BTW Al, I saw your welp on TGO about a year and a half ago for a broken speedo needle :lol: :lol: Just thought id bring that up.
So do you want to race me with my lowly little 350 TBI when it's back up and running? Head's up is all I'll do and no slicks, radials only.

[NJSPEEDER]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-)

funny, my free modded tbi car outran every tpi swapped LO3 i ever raced.
tpi is nice if teh car come siwth it, it is a waste of money to swap in and definately too expensive to upgrade.

later
tim

[Ian]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-) If you do get that car running, it might be a close race. If Derek wins, it'll be because of the gears.


BTW Al, I saw your welp on TGO about a year and a half ago for a broken speedo needle :lol: :lol: Just thought id bring that up.
So do you want to race me with my lowely little 350 TBI when it's back up and running? Head's up is all I'll do and no slicks, radials only.

oh snap. better start modding that LS1 of yours if you're gonna accept that challenge :shock:

[enRo]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-) If you do get that car running, it might be a close race. If Derek wins, it'll be because of the gears.


BTW Al, I saw your welp on TGO about a year and a half ago for a broken speedo needle :lol: :lol: Just thought id bring that up.
So do you want to race me with my lowely little 350 TBI when it's back up and running? Head's up is all I'll do and no slicks, radials only.

Thats affirmative. I might have to search for a new tuner now :kneeslap: Keywords: sucks without any mods

But sure, I need some good runs, just to see how my WS6 handles :-P

[enRo]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-)

funny, my free modded tbi car outran every tpi swapped LO3 i ever raced.
tpi is nice if teh car come siwth it, it is a waste of money to swap in and definately too expensive to upgrade.

later
tim

Hmmm... my car is an LB9, not an LO3 :-P

[Ian]

I would advise not to even bother running the WS6, just go straight for the LS1. I could be wrong, but isn't Jons car in the low 13's?

[NJSPEEDER]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-)

funny, my free modded tbi car outran every tpi swapped LO3 i ever raced.
tpi is nice if teh car come siwth it, it is a waste of money to swap in and definately too expensive to upgrade.

later
tim

Hmmm... my car is an LB9, not an LO3 :-P

not like i had any trouble dealing with LB9's either. tbi pwns joo!!!!

later
tim

[enRo]

TBI doesn't own me... weight reduction owns me :twisted:

Im not really picking a fight tho, but my Pro/Am stock was ****ing slow, I had 2 kills out of 8 or 9, one of those kills being a 4000 pound 88 Grand Marquis. That was an LO3. But I took this LB9 WS6 out for a spin one time, and thats basically stock except for exhaust work, slight weight reduc., and good gears, and it ran a hellova lot better than the LO3. Just putting in my 2 cents. Ill race just for ****s and giggles.

[Fasterthanyou]

I dunno, looks awfully close. I know for fact TBI sucks without any mods, but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better... BUT TPI is where its at now :-) If you do get that car running, it might be a close race. If Derek wins, it'll be because of the gears.


BTW Al, I saw your welp on TGO about a year and a half ago for a broken speedo needle :lol: :lol: Just thought id bring that up.
So do you want to race me with my lowely little 350 TBI when it's back up and running? Head's up is all I'll do and no slicks, radials only.

Thats affirmative. I might have to search for a new tuner now :kneeslap: Keywords: sucks without any mods

But sure, I need some good runs, just to see how my WS6 handles :-P
", but with mods I guess it'll run a tad better" is why I replied.

[enRo]

Im speaking of the LO3 not an LO5 or w/e u have. Other than what I've read from Tims posts on TGO about his car being one of the fastest on there, the best Ive seen out of an LO3 was low 12's, with nitrous and a lot of weight loss. The rest are mainly high 13''s - low 16's .

[Tsar]

Um..looks like fun, lets see who owns who :)

[BigAls87Z28]

Hey, start your own fing thread!!

So a touch more gear, and you all say he has me? Hrm...
Guess we will have to see.
And exactly what does removing stuff and putting it back together have to do with racing? If it took me 2 years and him 2 weeks, but we both are there on race day, ready to go, then who ****ing cares? :roll:
People spend years to build up, tear down, and build up thier cars. Sorry I didnt dedicate every waking hour of the last 2 years to my car. I kinda had a life to live.

[Savage_Messiah]

but... you'll be there on race day? Last I checked Derek's camaro is running and on the road

[79CamaroDiva]

... in fact, i think we saw it today :)

NBL al

[BigAls87Z28]

Yeah, but that engine is busted. He has another one, but its not in the car.

[camaroracer1992]

hey njspedr dont ya wishi still had my 305 tbi now?? stock cams and heads hehe :shock:

[Tru2Chevy]

So a touch more gear, and you all say he has me? Â*Hrm...
Guess we will have to see.

3.23 vs 3.73 + he has a Prevost tune and more practice than you. Are there specific rules setup for this, or is it heads up, run whatcha brung and hope you brung enough?

- Justin

[90FormulaWS6]

street radials and no power adders is the only rules i suggest

[BigAls87Z28]

cool, im down.
How many runs do you guys think I have? You guys do know that I live 20 mins away from Etown, and in HS used to go every weds, friday, and sunday (if I could) to race right?
Not a lot of confidence in me. I also plan to have asomeone help me tune my car be it Prevo or someone.

[Fasterthanyou]

cool, im down.
How many runs do you guys think I have? You guys do know that I live 20 mins away from Etown, and in HS used to go every weds, friday, and sunday (if I could) to race right?
Not a lot of confidence in me. I also plan to have asomeone help me tune my car be it Prevo or someone.
What? You don't trust me :twisted: ? I wouldn't make you slower just to prove to you and the rest of the world that TBI can be for performance... unless there were some money on the table... j/k.

[90FormulaWS6]

another rule... no stickers... they add madd hp cuz

[Savage_Messiah]

fo shizzle

[Tsar]

no type R stickers = no care :lol:
How about a big wing? downforce YO!

[BigAls87Z28]

Ah **** yo...that was gunna be mah stage 2.

[j0n]

new motor is in...post up the in progress pics derek! (read as: al lost)

[BigAls87Z28]

My motor has been in since 86 bitch...I win.

[90FormulaWS6]

my motor runs... and i think you got some catching up to do...in a few ways BITCH :whip:

[j0n]

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