Possibly the most gaudy fbody ever?

[foff667]

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7426&page=1&pp=15

[enRo]

That car is everywhere. I believe its female owned.

[NJSPEEDER]

thanks bill. i just threw up a little :barf:

later
tim

[Tsar]

mehh u gotta be a member to see those pics

[foff667]

if you dont feel like signing up check her cardomain http://www.redraif.com/

[camaroracer1992]

why the **** would you pay to dyno pull 143 hp???? are these people ****ing reatraded? oh and tha tcar is so ****ign gay a gay man wouldnt even sit in it

[PDubs87Z28]

why the **** would you pay to dyno pull 143 hp???? are these people ****ing reatraded? oh and tha tcar is so ****ign gay a gay man wouldnt even sit in it
I think my 305 4bbl with 134,XXX miles on it probably has more hp than that thing! the kid that owned it before me drove it through the water pit....spun em and got a 16.2 1/4 :burnout: **** i thought my car was slow but that thing has an ass load of mods and its slower than my stock ****box :lol:

[deadtrend1]

its redraifs car. SHE has been topic of discussions many times on TGO for about 2 years. Lots of flame wars, lots of locked threads......ugliest car ever.

[Tsar]

if you dont feel like signing up check her cardomain http://www.redraif.com/thanks!


um...i dont really like it...

[camaro2you]

if you dont feel like signing up check her cardomain http://www.redraif.com/thanks!


um...i dont really like it...


:stupid:

[trashman01]

all of the flame wars gett started cuz ppl hate her car and disrespect it and her completely, atleast have some respect for the time, efford, and for a lack of a better word, BALLS to do something. shes over on thirdgen.org. hey i bet none of ya can say ur car made the RIDEs tv show

[Untamed]

I like the color scheme. I wouldnt pay that much to do all the mods, but... it is original.

[dan]

the most horrid fbody in existence..i hope the owner chokes and the car gets dissassembled and burned..

[foff667]

all of the flame wars gett started cuz ppl hate her car and disrespect it and her completely, atleast have some respect for the time, efford, and for a lack of a better word, BALLS to do something. shes over on thirdgen.org. hey i bet none of ya can say ur car made the RIDEs tv show

I'd never seen the car before today...and im sure there are others that havent as well...its ugly as sin theres not much more I can say about it...having it on a TV show means nothing really other than a national audience got a good laugh as well :shrug:

[jola]

i didn't think it was so bad. i think the clear turning signals looked real nice. the window tints and body kit don't look so good, but the color scheme is nice. i wouldn't say its the worst f-body ever.

[BigAls87Z28]

Ahahaha...first two things I thought of were
1) Phatty McFormula
2) RedRaif's Third gen bird

that car is a lot of uglyness, wrapped in a warm blanket of crap. Yeah there is a lot of work into it, but in the end it still looks like crap.

[Tru2Chevy]

Besides the tint, wheels, and overdone engine bay - I like it.

- Justin

[foff667]

Besides the tint, wheels, and overdone engine bay - I like it.

- Justin

how bout the dual spoilers? do you like them? How bout the RS ground effects on a firebird? Your into that? The Stripped tires(cant remember the name used) those are hott...i need me a set for the gtp yo. The red tint even on the front window? Thats hott too right? Dude theres nothing on that car that I like & I've owned 3 3rd gens...I would shoot myself if I did anything this person did to this car.

[Tru2Chevy]

Heh...forgot about the stacked spoilers - add that to the list. I don't think the ground effects look that bad. And who gives a crap whether or not the tires have red lines on them (I don't remember what they are called either)?

- Justin

[foff667]

so you'd put some TA ground effects on your camaro? I'll so help you with the install...so I can be there when everyone laughs at you too lol :loser: & I care about the red striped tires, its complete rice...dude that car is completely fubar'd just admit it.

[Untamed]

Riced out Firebird > Rice

[foff667]

Riced out Firebird Â*> Â*Rice

IMO its worse because it gives you & I a bad rep...why do you think everyone thinks camaro owners are rednecks with mullets?

[Tru2Chevy]

so you'd put some TA ground effects on your camaro?

Nope - no ground effects at all on my car. Contributes to the sleeper look almost as much as the jackstands do :D

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

so you'd put some TA ground effects on your camaro?

Nope - no ground effects at all on my car. Contributes to the sleeper look almost as much as the jackstands do Â*:D

- Justin

the redneck with the mullet has spoken. :roll:

[jims69camaro]

Heh...forgot about the stacked spoilers - add that to the list. I don't think the ground effects look that bad. And who gives a crap whether or not the tires have red lines on them (I don't remember what they are called either)?

- Justin

they're called... get ready... "red line tires". they came as standard equipment on some first gen camaros. she is magically drawn to anything red. if they sold crap in a red can, she would buy it just because of the can.

there is always someone who has yet to see her car. and there is always someone in the crowd that will post it up. in the 5 or so years i've been around websites having to do with f-bodies, i think i've seen it posted up no less than ten times (once every six months or so). TGO is notorious for having it posted up in the appearance area, as some n00B finds it and posts it up, usually with a similar title to "jacked up firebird" or "ugliest car evah". then the redraif supporters come out of the woodwork to defend her honor. then someone tells her that so-and-so over on such-and-such board is trashing her car and she shows up a couple of weeks later to tell you how beautiful her car is. she can justify everything she's done to the car and the fact that she's an innovater, not a car builder or mechanic (shows, doesn't it?). she'll be here shortly, i am sure. hang on for a wild ride.

[deadtrend1]

how bout the dual spoilers? do you like them?

More like 4. Theres 3 on the back alone. Theres one upside down under the back bumper. She also used to have one upside down under the front bumper. Either the pics are old since its not on, or she took it off. Actually, looking at the wallpaper pics on the car domain page, you can see it on.

She had a bumch of enforcers on TGO. "LT1 guy" (her b/f) would always attack any negative opinion someone had. "Crazyhawiian" and "Revlimit" were her pals too. It was atually funny to see the whole appearance board flame war each other.

[Savage_Messiah]

Ugly car but at least theres some proof that 3 inch > 2.5

[PBodyGT87]

she has freakin fiero valve covers, heads, block, oil pan, oil filter and trans. what the ****.

[BigAls87Z28]

That is actualy a big mod that a lot of 2.8 owners do to there engine. A friend of mine that lives out in Ohio helped his gf "Fieroize" her 2.8 Camaro. I think I have the pictures around here.

[Tru2Chevy]

And who gives a crap whether or not the tires have red lines on them (I don't remember what they are called either)?

- Justin

they're called... get ready... "red line tires". Â*they came as standard equipment on some first gen camaros.

No, I got un-lazy and looked up the name. They are BF Goodrich Scorcher T/As. The red is actually in the tread, not on the sidewall like the one's you're referring too. They come in red, blue, and yellow.

- Justin

[BigAls87Z28]

Yeah, the oh so popular Scorcher TA's. They have little bands of colored tread. I thought they had discontinued them because they were so unpopular. The tire was designed to attract the sport compact people who would want to have tires match the color of the car.....

[unstable bob gable]

All I could think of after seeing that red tint is the scene from "Pulp Fiction" where that punk in da back seat "accidently" gets his brains blown out...
Hmmm, maybe a "cleaner" can go out and clean up dat mess of an F bod!

[foff667]

All I could think of after seeing that red tint is the scene from "Pulp Fiction" where that punk in da back seat "accidently" gets his brains blown out...
Hmmm, maybe a "cleaner" can go out and clean up dat mess of an F bod!

I think theres too much crap wrong with it & wouldnt wanna try to "clean it up"...I'd just ship it overseas in hopes of a carbombing :lol:

[jims69camaro]

And who gives a crap whether or not the tires have red lines on them (I don't remember what they are called either)?

- Justin

they're called... get ready... "red line tires". Â*they came as standard equipment on some first gen camaros.

No, I got un-lazy and looked up the name. They are BF Goodrich Scorcher T/As. The red is actually in the tread, not on the sidewall like the one's you're referring too. They come in red, blue, and yellow.

- Justin

i stand corrected. still fugly. :lol:

[skorpion317]

ohhh boy....that's probably the 16 millionth time i've seen that car.

at first glance, it's not too bad. then you start to notice little things, like the stacked spoilers, and the spoiler under the bumper, etc. etc. and you begin to wonder "What in the hell did she do?" all in all, it adds up to a slow, and stupid-looking car.

[jims69camaro]

... that she's won trophies for! best in class (i think she was the only one to show up), best f-body, best firebird. i'm just surprised that she hasn't been here yet to argue about how nice her car is compared to the masses of rusting, primered, nasty camaros and frebirds up on blocks/jackstands.

[skorpion317]

i also love her post on fullthrottleV6:

Car is not running what it should... even on drag radials the car si spinning off the line... we ahve been thru all the idiot driver theroies and that is not it... hte car is very lowered and has a non posi rear. So one of my next mods are coilovers up front so i can change spring rates up from for darg days and a spohn torque arm so i can fix my angles! Figure that will make tons of difference!

What I'm running... car weighs 3383 w/o me!

60 foot time: 2.318 1/8 Mile ET: 10.676 1/8 Mile MPH: 63.66 1/4 Mile ET: 16.781 1/4 Mile MPH: 81.07

sounds like stock 3.4 times to me....

and she shouldn't blame her times on a non-posi rear, with 3.73's i might add. my old 3.8 had an open diff, and pulled a 2.1 60' and a 15.4 ET with 3.08's.

[foff667]

i also love her post on fullthrottleV6:

Car is not running what it should... even on drag radials the car si spinning off the line... we ahve been thru all the idiot driver theroies and that is not it... hte car is very lowered and has a non posi rear. So one of my next mods are coilovers up front so i can change spring rates up from for darg days and a spohn torque arm so i can fix my angles! Figure that will make tons of difference!

What I'm running... car weighs 3383 w/o me!

60 foot time: 2.318 1/8 Mile ET: 10.676 1/8 Mile MPH: 63.66 1/4 Mile ET: 16.781 1/4 Mile MPH: 81.07

sounds like stock 3.4 times to me....

and she shouldn't blame her times on a non-posi rear, with 3.73's i might add. my old 3.8 had an open diff, and pulled a 2.1 60' and a 15.4 ET with 3.08's.

I dont believe the 3.4 was optioned until 93 with the 4th gens...it was the 2.8 then eventually the 3.1 in the 3rd gens...I have no clue what they ran stock though.

[skorpion317]

she swapped in a 3.4.

[foff667]

she swapped in a 3.4.

ahh...i looked at the pics of the car & that was about the extent of it...saw the stock 3rd gen intake & assumed it was a 3rd gen motor as well.

[jims69camaro]

she swapped in a 3.4.

ahh...i looked at the pics of the car & that was about the extent of it...saw the stock 3rd gen intake & assumed it was a 3rd gen motor as well.

why on earth would you think someone would swap in a 3.4 in place of the 2.8, anyway? most people looking to improve their 1/4 times swap in a v8. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[jola]

she swapped in a 3.4.

ahh...i looked at the pics of the car & that was about the extent of it...saw the stock 3rd gen intake & assumed it was a 3rd gen motor as well.

why on earth would you think someone would swap in a 3.4 in place of the 2.8, anyway? most people looking to improve their 1/4 times swap in a v8. :lol: :lol: :lol:

true, it does seem a little odd. but then again, the 3.4 L was probably the best engine ever produced by gm. :burnout:

[foff667]

she swapped in a 3.4.

ahh...i looked at the pics of the car & that was about the extent of it...saw the stock 3rd gen intake & assumed it was a 3rd gen motor as well.

why on earth would you think someone would swap in a 3.4 in place of the 2.8, anyway? Â*most people looking to improve their 1/4 times swap in a v8. Â* :lol: Â*:lol: Â*:lol:

true, it does seem a little odd. but then again, the 3.4 L was probably the best engine ever produced by gm. Â*:burnout:

:funny::rofl:

[foff667]

that was a joke right?

[79CamaroDiva]

if you dont feel like signing up check her cardomain http://www.redraif.com/thanks!


um...i dont really like it...


:stupid:
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[skorpion317]

she swapped in a 3.4.

ahh...i looked at the pics of the car & that was about the extent of it...saw the stock 3rd gen intake & assumed it was a 3rd gen motor as well.

why on earth would you think someone would swap in a 3.4 in place of the 2.8, anyway? most people looking to improve their 1/4 times swap in a v8. :lol: :lol: :lol:

i have no idea, but that's what she did. maybe she wanted to keep it a V6? even then, she should have gone for the 3.8 over the 3.4.

[BigAls87Z28]

3.8 is a 90* V6 where the 3.4 is an updated version of the 2.8, as both come from the same 60* V6 family.

[Tru2Chevy]

then the redraif supporters come out of the woodwork to defend her honor. Â*then someone tells her that so-and-so over on such-and-such board is trashing her car and she shows up a couple of weeks later to tell you how beautiful her car is.

She's a member as of about 10 minutes ago.....

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

i jsut took the time to actually read the entire list of mods and i found the one that will win everyone over

****************************************
BODY APPEARANCE:
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Red soundproofed gas tank :loser: :typeR:

later
tim

[Savage_Messiah]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

I don't think even Mr. Wingzzz with the paint/primer dsm last night with the aluminum airplane tower wing can compete with that one

[redraif]

Hah! Â*First post and I own page 3!

she has freakin fiero valve covers, heads, block, oil pan, oil filter and trans. what the ****.

You know I was not going to sign up when I was pMed this link till I saw this... where the heck did you get this crap? Â*Oh wait... I see, you can't read for ****! Â*HEHHEHEHEHE Â*

Candy Apple red painted: Plenum, runners, pulleys, brackets, steering box, Fiero valve covers, heads, block, oil pan, oil filter & transmission,

The rest of you alls drivel will have to wait! Â*Got to work you know!

[Savage_Messiah]

you alls drivel? Ahhh, Georgia. How long is your mullet?

[redraif]

you alls drivel? Ahhh, Georgia. Â*How long is your mullet?

As in You all, versus the Ya'll that Southerners say, your point!?

[Savage_Messiah]

Oh that's right, Georgia isn't in the south, forgot :roll:

[NJSPEEDER]

Oh that's right, Georgia isn't in the south, forgot Â*:roll:

well, it is north of florida. lol

later
tim

[Savage_Messiah]

So redraif, do you have regular plates or take advantage of being blind and mentally retarded / clinically insane (because no sane person, or person with a properly functioning brain that can see would do that to their car) and get a handicapped plate?

[Slow-V6]

The only part of the car I dont like is the rear ground effects..everything else looks pretty good.. You guys are harsh..

are those 4th gen side mirrors?? They look really good on the car.. Your looks good.. good luck with it..

[Slow-V6]

Â*most people looking to improve their 1/4 times swap in a v8. Â* :lol: Â*:lol: Â*:lol:

Maybe she isnt all about running her car?? Besides I have a V6 and I bet my car is 2-3 seconds faster in the 1/4 then your v8's are and what kind of gas miles do you get?? Cause I get 33mpg..

[Ian]

Maybe she isnt all about running her car?? Besides I have a V6 and I bet my car is 2-3 seconds faster in the 1/4 then your v8's are and what kind of gas miles do you get?? Cause I get 33mpg..

are you two to three seconds faster than 9.386 @ 143.66? :lol:

you might want to check the timeslip thread before you make such a bold statement.

back to the topic at hand...and please take into consideration that I am trying to be as nice as possible. Redraif, why would you sign up here just to defend your car? its obvious that many people dont like it (myself included) and apparently a few actually do like it. you dont have to go out on a crusade to fight in the name of your car. Who gives a crap if anyone likes it. you like it and somehow you have won trophies with it, so you should just be happy with the car and not care what other people think. And who PMed you about this thread? do you have some hidden network of spies scouring the internet for people talking bad about your car? I've said it before and I'll say it again...the internet is made for talking ****. Everyone has the freedom of speech and if they dont like the car, believe me they're gonna say something. you dont have to show up to our clubs website and start taking jabs at members whom you dont even know! Very immature.

Cliffnotes: -I dont like redraifs car
-she needs to accept the fact that her car will always be talked about, good and bad.
-talking bad about established members makes me angry

[jims69camaro]

then the redraif supporters come out of the woodwork to defend her honor. Â*then someone tells her that so-and-so over on such-and-such board is trashing her car and she shows up a couple of weeks later to tell you how beautiful her car is.

She's a member as of about 10 minutes ago.....

- Justin

i hate to say i told you so...

[jims69camaro]

[p.s. that wasn't him that said this, it was me]
Â*most people looking to improve their 1/4 times swap in a v8. Â* :lol: Â*:lol: Â*:lol:

Maybe she isnt all about running her car?? Besides I have a V6 and I bet my car is 2-3 seconds faster in the 1/4 then your v8's are and what kind of gas miles do you get?? Cause I get 33mpg..

a) you can't quote worth a ****. b) you've got your facts wrong.

the reason why you own your car is MPG? i know several cars, without doing any research at all, that get better MPG. (about as much nonsense as you are spewing, thrown right back at you.)

if she wasn't about running her car, then why would she be complaining on her website (no one went fishing for that one, it bit us in the ass) that her car is not performing to her satisfaction?

quantify your 33 MPG. was that downhill, with the wind to your back? from one gas station to the next, down I-95? saying you get 33 MPG in the context that you use would lead someone to believe you get 33 MPG every time you drive it, which we all know to be false:

1998 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28 COUPE
Description: Sport coupe, convertible
Model Options: Sport coupe, convertible
Wheelbase: 101.1 inches
Overall Length: 193.5 inches
Engine Size: OHV 3.8-L V6 OHV 5.7-L V8
Transmission: V6: Manual/5, Auto/4 V8: Manual/6, Auto/4
Drive: Rear
Braking: Power 4-disc/ABS
Airbags: 2
Gas Mileage: V6: 19/30 mpg

further, your tag line (also known as signature) is inaccurate:

Similar styling and an economical engine show up in a base Camaro, also cast as coupe and convertible. Its 3.8-liter V6 delivers 200 hp with either the Hydra-matic 4-speed automatic or a stock manual 5-speed transmission.

if you've got: Forged motor, Heads, cam, intake (the only things i can see in your signature that contribute to power production, not even a better exhaust!), you'd have to have gotten an additional 170 horsepower (ok, 70 horsepower if you remove the 100-shot of nitrous oxide, which i have to assume you added in to make your number bigger) and everyone with a V6 wants to know where you got your parts so they can get some too, and, then explain how it is that you are getting 33 MPG? if you are still on a stock tune, which you claim to be, then your car is running like **** with large plumes of black smoke coming from the tailpipe. that's extra gas, in case you didn't know, and it would bring down your MPG significantly. so, which is the truth and which is the lie?

don't come to my house looking for a fight. you'll lose everytime.

[jims69camaro]

oh, and one more thing: your car is not 2-3 seconds faster than either of my V8s. there is only one person that i know of that is running faster than a v-8 with a v-6, and it ain't you.

[enRo]

The car looks good. I can do without the red tint, 17 spoilers, and the v6 tho. People have different ways of customizing there cars. Fatty's got 19 inch chrome rims, my pro/am had a bolt on cowl hood, Kasey's even got a bunjee cord of some type holding his front end together. Lets look at the good things about this car... its got a nice exhaust setup, the interior is very clean as well as the engine bay, and its a FBODY for christ sakes. No matter how gawdy it is, its as long as the owner is happy (fbody speaking). :roll:

[jims69camaro]

Maybe she isnt all about running her car?? Besides I have a V6 and I bet my car is 2-3 seconds faster in the 1/4 then your v8's are and what kind of gas miles do you get?? Cause I get 33mpg..

are you two to three seconds faster than 9.386 @ 143.66? :lol:

you might want to check the timeslip thread before you make such a bold statement.

back to the topic at hand...and please take into consideration that I am trying to be as nice as possible. Redraif, why would you sign up here just to defend your car? its obvious that many people dont like it (myself included) and apparently a few actually do like it. you dont have to go out on a crusade to fight in the name of your car. Who gives a crap if anyone likes it. you like it and somehow you have won trophies with it, so you should just be happy with the car and not care what other people think. And who PMed you about this thread? do you have some hidden network of spies scouring the internet for people talking bad about your car? I've said it before and I'll say it again...the internet is made for talking ****. Everyone has the freedom of speech and if they dont like the car, believe me they're gonna say something. you dont have to show up to our clubs website and start taking jabs at members whom you dont even know! Very immature.

Cliffnotes: -I dont like redraifs car
-she needs to accept the fact that her car will always be talked about, good and bad.
-talking bad about established members makes me angry

you forgot one:
-we don't need her supporters coming over here either. she's big enough to defend herself, should she feel the need, and trying to change someone's opinion about something is ludicrous to even attempt. if there is one thing that people on the internet have, it's strong opinions. they ain't gonna change them just because you say so.

[Ian]

Maybe she isnt all about running her car?? Besides I have a V6 and I bet my car is 2-3 seconds faster in the 1/4 then your v8's are and what kind of gas miles do you get?? Cause I get 33mpg..

are you two to three seconds faster than 9.386 @ 143.66? :lol:

you might want to check the timeslip thread before you make such a bold statement.

back to the topic at hand...and please take into consideration that I am trying to be as nice as possible. Redraif, why would you sign up here just to defend your car? its obvious that many people dont like it (myself included) and apparently a few actually do like it. you dont have to go out on a crusade to fight in the name of your car. Who gives a crap if anyone likes it. you like it and somehow you have won trophies with it, so you should just be happy with the car and not care what other people think. And who PMed you about this thread? do you have some hidden network of spies scouring the internet for people talking bad about your car? I've said it before and I'll say it again...the internet is made for talking ****. Everyone has the freedom of speech and if they dont like the car, believe me they're gonna say something. you dont have to show up to our clubs website and start taking jabs at members whom you dont even know! Very immature.

Cliffnotes: -I dont like redraifs car
-she needs to accept the fact that her car will always be talked about, good and bad.
-talking bad about established members makes me angry

you forgot one:
-we don't need her supporters coming over here either. Â*she's big enough to defend herself, should she feel the need, and trying to change someone's opinion about something is ludicrous to even attempt. Â*if there is one thing that people on the internet have, it's strong opinions. Â*they ain't gonna change them just because you say so.

:werd:

[Slow-V6]

Well here is a list of my mods.....

Forged diamond coated pistons bored .20 over, Forged L32 connecting rods, super six motorsports p&p heads, intakes, Manley valves, comp valve springs, titanium retainers, comp valve locks, comp lightweight push rods, comp lifters, comp cam 210in, 220 ex, 537in lift, 547exlift, 113 l/s, spec stage 3 clutch, stock 5 speed for another month, eaton posi, motive 4.10's, moser axles, main cap studs, t/a cover....

Bolt ons...
performance... ceramic coated headers, 3inch catco cat, 3inch cat back, flowmaster 80 seris 3inch in 3inch out, whisper lid, WS6 hood and air box, maf translater plus for tunning ON MOTOR not on the spray, 100 wet shot, short throw shifter...

suspension mods..
BMR STB, Edelbrock TQ arm, MAC SFC's, BMR tunnel brace and D/S loop, BMR LCA, and LCA relocation brackets, BMR PHB, Weld prostars, SLP line Lock..

Car dynoed 370rwhp, 415rwtq on a 125 shot with 900psi in the bottle on a STOCK TUNE.. Thats with a 9.8:1 A/F ratio.. I dont want to mess with the tune with the maf plus I am waiting to get HP tuners next month.. I havent had the bottle on the car since that dyno which was in March.. I sprayed 1 bottle through the car since the motor was built and I broke a carrier bearing on my stock rear end.. My car weighs in at 3380 with me in it and 3212 without me in it.. I get 33 mpg on the highway and 25 around town On MOTOR... My bad for talking **** to you.. I should have checked your **** out before hand..

Well now you know 2 people with V6's running faster then V8's which is kinda stupid since a 96-02 v6 f-body will run faster times then alot of 2nd and 3rd gen V8 F-bodies stock...

[Slow-V6]

Its over and done with I apologize for talking ****.. we all drive F-bodies and we should all be like a family to a degree.. Once again my bad..

[NJSPEEDER]

everyone take a big deep cleansing breath and get back on topic. we didn't all join this board for more of teh same old internet dick waving. well, foff667 prolly did, but he is an internet tough guy anyway. :P
pictures of the car were put on the web and you have to know people are going to judge it.
apparently the styles in georgia don't fly here in jersey.

later
tim

[Slow-V6]

everyone take a big deep cleansing breath and get back on topic. we didn't all join this board for more of teh same old internet dick waving. well, foff667 prolly did, but he is an internet tough guy anyway. :P
pictures of the car were put on the web and you have to know people are going to judge it.
apparently the styles in georgia don't fly here in jersey.

later
tim

My bad...

[NJSPEEDER]

everyone take a big deep cleansing breath and get back on topic. we didn't all join this board for more of teh same old internet dick waving. well, foff667 prolly did, but he is an internet tough guy anyway. :P
pictures of the car were put on the web and you have to know people are going to judge it.
apparently the styles in georgia don't fly here in jersey.

later
tim

My bad...

please don't take my comments personally, they are intended for everyone.

later
tim

[foff667]

everyone take a big deep cleansing breath and get back on topic. we didn't all join this board for more of teh same old internet dick waving. well, foff667 prolly did, but he is an internet tough guy anyway. :P
pictures of the car were put on the web and you have to know people are going to judge it.
apparently the styles in georgia don't fly here in jersey.

later
tim

I joined because you invited me remember? Buddy :roll:

[foff667]

slow-v6 i severely doubt your a full 2 seconds faster then my v6...as far as v8's there are a good amount in the 12's or better on this ~500 member site so dont get your ego to big there bud. I doubt youve run your car but from the sounds of it your lucky if you hit mid 12's on your 125 shot as it stands and probably mid 13's NA just by looking at your #'s & race weight. To the person that went and told about this thread i have two words for ya "tattle tail" :P as far as redraif goes I will say Im sorry to your personally...not for starting the thread because I honestly think it looks like ****...but getting bashed from one site to the next just for following your dream must suck so for you to see it on one more site must suck...you should probably blame that on the person who for no obvious reason pointed you to this thread...theres obviously more people that dont like it than do so stop defending it & go your own way(joeja) & we'll go ours(jerzey).

lata
Bill

[enRo]

Not directed at anyone, this is my honest opinion... I really dont see what the fuss is about with "who's faster"... clicking this thread makes me think I joined Honda4LYFE.net or something... who cares whos v6 is faster than this v6 or v8 or this LG4 is faster than a modded LS1 (just had to add that in ROFL)... theres a .org after NJFBOA for a reason... stands for organization, not cluster****. As long as an Fbody (excluding Koll's) is in front of an import at all times, then theres no need to argue. Thats my 2 cents. This thread may be resumed :-P

[foff667]

As long as an Fbody (excluding Koll's) is in front of an import at all times, then theres no need to argue.

I guess thats why theres an argument going on right now Koll's car=crap lol I've see many a stock 4 cyl run low 16's meaning koll would be seeing some pokemon tail lights of his own.

[skorpion317]

well now, this thread turned into a pissing match.

Slow-V6, if she wasn't about running her car, why would she bother dynoing it and taking it to the track? people don't do that to show cars. also, i seriously doubt you get 33 MPG with your mods. I owned a '98 Camaro V6, and even with some mild modifications, it barely saw 28-30 MPG on the highway.

as for the 4th gen V6's running faster than 2nd and 3rd gen V8's, that may be true depending on which V8 you're talking about. An LG4 (4-bbl 305) will definitely lose to a 3.8L 4th gen, but an L98 will definitely lay the smack down on an L36. hell, even a decent-condition LB9 will take out a V6 4th gen.

I'm all for V6 performance. I loved my car when I had it, and had big plans for it. Don't get me wrong on that.

the topic of discussion here is the ugliness of the car. It is probably one of the top 5 worst-looking F-bodies ever. Redraif, not to diminish the time and effort you put into the car, but you could have had better taste when it came to the appearance. It is unique and all, but that doesn't make it good-looking. Lord knows how you won trophies with the thing.

However, I will say this: It is your car, and you will do with it as you see fit. If it looks good to you, that's fine. Don't get offended if someone (or in this case, nearly everyone) doesn't like it. Just accept it and move on. There's no need to go around and make a whole big scene because someone said something negative.

and to the other members of this club:

Let's chill out, OK? We should try to be a little more mature, and represent the club respectably. Don't degenerate into mindless internet flamers over something stupid.

[jims69camaro]

:D

it's one or the other. you either hit 12s or you get 33mpg. they don't have a car (that i know of) that can pull off both. remember, i didn't go looking for this, it came here on its own legs.

and i love a good pissing match every once in a while.

:D

p.s. i still know of only one person who has a modded V6 that runs better than most V8s, but he isn't gettting 33mpg, either.

:D

[jims69camaro]

everyone take a big deep cleansing breath and get back on topic. we didn't all join this board for more of teh same old internet dick waving. well, foff667 prolly did, but he is an internet tough guy anyway. :P
pictures of the car were put on the web and you have to know people are going to judge it.
apparently the styles in georgia don't fly here in jersey.

later
tim

My bad...

please don't take my comments personally, they are intended for everyone named jim.

later
tim

sorry boss. i couldn't resist. [bright side]at least i brought out his complete setup.[/bright side]

and i know, arguing on the internet is like the special olympics... where'd i put that pic? :D:D:D

[Savage_Messiah]

Well here is a list of my mods.....

Forged diamond coated pistons bored .20 over, Forged L32 connecting rods, super six motorsports p&p heads, intakes, Manley valves, comp valve springs, titanium retainers, comp valve locks, comp lightweight push rods, comp lifters, comp cam 210in, 220 ex, 537in lift, 547exlift, 113 l/s, spec stage 3 clutch, stock 5 speed for another month, eaton posi, motive 4.10's, moser axles, main cap studs, t/a cover....

Bolt ons...
performance... ceramic coated headers, 3inch catco cat, 3inch cat back, flowmaster 80 seris 3inch in 3inch out, whisper lid, WS6 hood and air box, maf translater plus for tunning ON MOTOR not on the spray, 100 wet shot, short throw shifter...

suspension mods..
BMR STB, Edelbrock TQ arm, MAC SFC's, BMR tunnel brace and D/S loop, BMR LCA, and LCA relocation brackets, BMR PHB, Weld prostars, SLP line Lock..

Car dynoed 370rwhp, 415rwtq on a 125 shot with 900psi in the bottle on a STOCK TUNE.. Thats with a 9.8:1 A/F ratio.. I dont want to mess with the tune with the maf plus I am waiting to get HP tuners next month.. I havent had the bottle on the car since that dyno which was in March.. I sprayed 1 bottle through the car since the motor was built and I broke a carrier bearing on my stock rear end.. My car weighs in at 3380 with me in it and 3212 without me in it.. I get 33 mpg on the highway and 25 around town On MOTOR... My bad for talking **** to you.. I should have checked your **** out before hand..

Well now you know 2 people with V6's running faster then V8's which is kinda stupid since a 96-02 v6 f-body will run faster times then alot of 2nd and 3rd gen V8 F-bodies stock...

How can you say that without stating how fast your car runs?

[PDubs87Z28]

Well now you know 2 people with V6's running faster then V8's which is kinda stupid since a 96-02 v6 f-body will run faster times then alot of 2nd and 3rd gen V8 F-bodies stock...

Yeah that might be true that 4th gen V6's run faster than most 3rd gen V8's BUT my car is a head turner because you can shave looking at my 87 Z28. Yeah its got a piece of **** 305 4bbl V8 but you know what after i did my minor adjustments to my car to make it pass inspection i GET atleast 15-18 MPG's on a 4 bbl carb with 134,XXX miles on it with 93 octane. I work 0.4 miles from work and the last time i put gas in my camaro was Aug. 25th and i drive around in the area of my town. I don't drive it all day long but i do take it out at least 4 or 5 of the 7 days in the week to drive. I KNOW MY V8 IS ASS SLOW AND I DON'T CARE!!!!! you go out and find a pretty much rust free 3rd gen with SOLID floor boards, 1/4 panels and the works for $400 and you come back to me and let me know. My camaro WILL get a work 350(or 383), new trans and new rear because i don't care if i have to put 15-20g's into my car because i'd RATHER spend the money on that car then buy some new Piece of **** fuel efficent honda or toyota to save money on gas. I put blood and sweat into my car and re did it with my father which means my car has more value to me than anything else SO BEAT IT. People can make fun of my car for "not being fast" but you know what i give 2 ****s and a flying **** what people think of it because i know that if i WANT it to be fast i'll MAKE that mother****er fly because I'm one sick mother ****er and i don't care. But i'd rather lay back with a nice car and after all mods are done it'll look good and be quick and thats what i care about.
NJSPEEDER is right arguing on the internet is like the special olympics....i actually think its the dumbest **** to argue on the internet over some HOMO **** but you know what i had just a few captian and cokes and i feel great right now and i've been reading this thread for a while on what people thought and everyone has an opinion and you just got mine. Make fun of my car all you please but you know what.....I DON'T GIVE A ****!

[PDubs87Z28]

100 wet shot...........
Car dynoed 370rwhp, 415rwtq on a 125 shot with 900psi in the bottle on a STOCK TUNE..
Not for nothing i think using Nitrous takes really BIG nads and the more power to you and everyone else on this forum that uses the bottle.
BUT im a fan of "all throttle no bottle" because my friends dads 69 VW beetle N/A runs 11.10s now all day long on a flat-4......yeah i said it FLAT-4. OH and it uses STOCK VW rear drums to slow down at the end of the track (no front brakes.)

**** he blew cylinder 4 on his old motor and still got over the line at 13.40

[Savage_Messiah]

Well now you know 2 people with V6's running faster then V8's which is kinda stupid since a 96-02 v6 f-body will run faster times then alot of 2nd and 3rd gen V8 F-bodies stock...

Yeah that might be true that 4th gen V6's run faster than most 3rd gen V8's BUT my car is a head turner because you can shave looking at my 87 Z28. Yeah its got a piece of **** 305 4bbl V8 but you know what after i did my minor adjustments to my car to make it pass inspection i GET atleast 15-18 MPG's on a 4 bbl carb with 134,XXX miles on it with 93 octane. I work 0.4 miles from work and the last time i put gas in my camaro was Aug. 25th and i drive around in the area of my town. I don't drive it all day long but i do take it out at least 4 or 5 of the 7 days in the week to drive. I KNOW MY V8 IS ASS SLOW AND I DON'T CARE!!!!! you go out and find a pretty much rust free 3rd gen with SOLID floor boards, 1/4 panels and the works for $400 and you come back to me and let me know. My camaro WILL get a work 350(or 383), new trans and new rear because i don't care if i have to put 15-20g's into my car because i'd RATHER spend the money on that car then buy some new Piece of **** fuel efficent honda or toyota to save money on gas. I put blood and sweat into my car and re did it with my father which means my car has more value to me than anything else SO BEAT IT. People can make fun of my car for "not being fast" but you know what i give 2 ****s and a flying **** what people think of it because i know that if i WANT it to be fast i'll MAKE that mother****er fly because I'm one sick mother ****er and i don't care. But i'd rather lay back with a nice car and after all mods are done it'll look good and be quick and thats what i care about.
NJSPEEDER is right arguing on the internet is like the special olympics....i actually think its the dumbest **** to argue on the internet over some HOMO **** but you know what i had just a few captian and cokes and i feel great right now and i've been reading this thread for a while on what people thought and everyone has an opinion and you just got mine. Make fun of my car all you please but you know what.....I DON'T GIVE A ****!

When it all boils down, I completely agree

[PDubs87Z28]

Well now you know 2 people with V6's running faster then V8's which is kinda stupid since a 96-02 v6 f-body will run faster times then alot of 2nd and 3rd gen V8 F-bodies stock...

Yeah that might be true that 4th gen V6's run faster than most 3rd gen V8's BUT my car is a head turner because you can shave looking at my 87 Z28. Yeah its got a piece of **** 305 4bbl V8 but you know what after i did my minor adjustments to my car to make it pass inspection i GET atleast 15-18 MPG's on a 4 bbl carb with 134,XXX miles on it with 93 octane. I work 0.4 miles from work and the last time i put gas in my camaro was Aug. 25th and i drive around in the area of my town. I don't drive it all day long but i do take it out at least 4 or 5 of the 7 days in the week to drive. I KNOW MY V8 IS ASS SLOW AND I DON'T CARE!!!!! you go out and find a pretty much rust free 3rd gen with SOLID floor boards, 1/4 panels and the works for $400 and you come back to me and let me know. My camaro WILL get a work 350(or 383), new trans and new rear because i don't care if i have to put 15-20g's into my car because i'd RATHER spend the money on that car then buy some new Piece of **** fuel efficent honda or toyota to save money on gas. I put blood and sweat into my car and re did it with my father which means my car has more value to me than anything else SO BEAT IT. People can make fun of my car for "not being fast" but you know what i give 2 ****s and a flying **** what people think of it because i know that if i WANT it to be fast i'll MAKE that mother****er fly because I'm one sick mother ****er and i don't care. But i'd rather lay back with a nice car and after all mods are done it'll look good and be quick and thats what i care about.
NJSPEEDER is right arguing on the internet is like the special olympics....i actually think its the dumbest **** to argue on the internet over some HOMO **** but you know what i had just a few captian and cokes and i feel great right now and i've been reading this thread for a while on what people thought and everyone has an opinion and you just got mine. Make fun of my car all you please but you know what.....I DON'T GIVE A ****!

When it all boils down, I completely agree
thank you

[Tru2Chevy]

Now that everyone has unzipped their virtual fly and waved their junk around, lets all put it away and keep the rest of this thread to discussion of Raif's car.....

- Justin

[foff667]

Now that everyone has unzipped their virtual fly and waved their junk around, lets all put it away and keep the rest of this thread to discussion of Raif's car.....

- Justin

way to make every focus on making fun of someones car whos a member :lol:


Justin-moderation skills second to none :)

[redraif]

Oh that's right, Georgia isn't in the south, forgot Â*:roll:

Ok guess I have to explain everything to this crowd... ok short bus folks... Responded to your first post to me, making it sound like I was some redneck southerner...
you alls drivel? Ahhh, Georgia. How long is your mullet?

I used a non southern phrase... you all... and used it in a sentence. So how does that have anything to do with me living in GA. One can live in GA w/o being a stereotypical redneck southerner, with southerner slang... And yes I do live in the south never said I did not smart guy!

[BigAls87Z28]

no one outside of uptight WASP New Englanders use "You All"

Its "You's Guys" Havent you seen any Jay and Silent Bob movies? JESUS!! Get the vernacular down please.
8)

[unstable bob gable]

no one outside of uptight WASP New Englanders use "You All"

Its "You's Guys" Â*Havent you seen any Jay and Silent Bob movies? Â*JESUS!! Â*Get the vernacular down please. Â*
Â*8)

Come on, Al! It is YOUSE GUYS! You want for me to teach youse how to speek Joisyese? Â*:D

[Slow-V6]

well now, this thread turned into a pissing match.

Slow-V6, if she wasn't about running her car, why would she bother dynoing it and taking it to the track? people don't do that to show cars. also, i seriously doubt you get 33 MPG with your mods. I owned a '98 Camaro V6, and even with some mild modifications, it barely saw 28-30 MPG on the highway.

as for the 4th gen V6's running faster than 2nd and 3rd gen V8's, that may be true depending on which V8 you're talking about. An LG4 (4-bbl 305) will definitely lose to a 3.8L 4th gen, but an L98 will definitely lay the smack down on an L36. hell, even a decent-condition LB9 will take out a V6 4th gen.

I'm all for V6 performance. I loved my car when I had it, and had big plans for it. Don't get me wrong on that.

the topic of discussion here is the ugliness of the car. It is probably one of the top 5 worst-looking F-bodies ever. Redraif, not to diminish the time and effort you put into the car, but you could have had better taste when it came to the appearance. Â*It is unique and all, but that doesn't make it good-looking. Â*Lord knows how you won trophies with the thing.

However, I will say this: It is your car, and you will do with it as you see fit. If it looks good to you, that's fine. Don't get offended if someone (or in this case, nearly everyone) doesn't like it. Just accept it and move on. There's no need to go around and make a whole big scene because someone said something negative.

and to the other members of this club:

Let's chill out, OK? We should try to be a little more mature, and represent the club respectably. Don't degenerate into mindless internet flamers over something stupid.

I didnt say that 06-02 V6 3rd gens would beat all 3rd gen V8's... An L98 car is a bad ass car, so are the 91-92 305 TPI 5 speeds.. I have owned 3 3rdgens .. 1989 Formula with a 305 TPI auto that ran a 15.8@87mph stock, a 1988 GTA T/A with a 305 TPI 5speed that had shorties, full exaust, and a filter that ran a 15.6@91mph and a 86 camaro 2.8 5speed... I also owned a 1979 Formula with a pontiac 400 4 speed.. That thing ran a 16.34@84mph.. My 1998 ran a 15.4@91 bone stock.. I started all of this **** talking and I apologized.. can we just move on??

Was you V6 a 5 speed or auto?? Was it stock??

[skorpion317]

my Camaro was an automatic. It had an SLP airlid, i removed the intake resonator and replaced it with a straight tube. I also did some weight reduction to it.

[Slow-V6]

Well here is a list of my mods.....

Forged diamond coated pistons bored .20 over, Forged L32 connecting rods, super six motorsports p&p heads, intakes, Manley valves, comp valve springs, titanium retainers, comp valve locks, comp lightweight push rods, comp lifters, comp cam 210in, 220 ex, 537in lift, 547exlift, 113 l/s, spec stage 3 clutch, stock 5 speed for another month, eaton posi, motive 4.10's, moser axles, main cap studs, t/a cover....

Bolt ons...
performance... ceramic coated headers, 3inch catco cat, 3inch cat back, flowmaster 80 seris 3inch in 3inch out, whisper lid, WS6 hood and air box, maf translater plus for tunning ON MOTOR not on the spray, 100 wet shot, short throw shifter...

suspension mods..
BMR STB, Edelbrock TQ arm, MAC SFC's, BMR tunnel brace and D/S loop, BMR LCA, and LCA relocation brackets, BMR PHB, Weld prostars, SLP line Lock..

Car dynoed 370rwhp, 415rwtq on a 125 shot with 900psi in the bottle on a STOCK TUNE.. Thats with a 9.8:1 A/F ratio.. I dont want to mess with the tune with the maf plus I am waiting to get HP tuners next month.. I havent had the bottle on the car since that dyno which was in March.. I sprayed 1 bottle through the car since the motor was built and I broke a carrier bearing on my stock rear end.. My car weighs in at 3380 with me in it and 3212 without me in it.. I get 33 mpg on the highway and 25 around town On MOTOR... My bad for talking **** to you.. I should have checked your **** out before hand..

Well now you know 2 people with V6's running faster then V8's which is kinda stupid since a 96-02 v6 f-body will run faster times then alot of 2nd and 3rd gen V8 F-bodies stock...

How can you say that without stating how fast your car runs?

I havent ran my car at the track yet with the new motor... I can tell you last year with a 90 wet shot on my stock motor with the same exaust setup, same intake and with 3.73's I ran a 14.1@102mph.. The car on made 292rwhp and 393rwtq on a 90 shot but the tq only held up ther from 3000-4000rpms and droped off badly.. now Â*with the cam my car makes 400+ tq from 3000 all the way to 5500 and starts to fall off.. But you right the only real way to find out is go to the track.. put it this way 12secondv6 went 12.1@110 with 315rwhp and 380tq and a race weight around 3000lbs..

[Slow-V6]

my Camaro was an automatic. It had an SLP airlid, i removed the intake resonator and replaced it with a straight tube. I also did some weight reduction to it.

Thats why you didnt see 30plus miles per gallon on the interstate.. If you would have opened the exaust you would have seen better mpg..

[foff667]

Well here is a list of my mods.....

Forged diamond coated pistons bored .20 over, Forged L32 connecting rods, super six motorsports p&p heads, intakes, Manley valves, comp valve springs, titanium retainers, comp valve locks, comp lightweight push rods, comp lifters, comp cam 210in, 220 ex, 537in lift, 547exlift, 113 l/s, spec stage 3 clutch, stock 5 speed for another month, eaton posi, motive 4.10's, moser axles, main cap studs, t/a cover....

Bolt ons...
performance... ceramic coated headers, 3inch catco cat, 3inch cat back, flowmaster 80 seris 3inch in 3inch out, whisper lid, WS6 hood and air box, maf translater plus for tunning ON MOTOR not on the spray, 100 wet shot, short throw shifter...

suspension mods..
BMR STB, Edelbrock TQ arm, MAC SFC's, BMR tunnel brace and D/S loop, BMR LCA, and LCA relocation brackets, BMR PHB, Weld prostars, SLP line Lock..

Car dynoed 370rwhp, 415rwtq on a 125 shot with 900psi in the bottle on a STOCK TUNE.. Thats with a 9.8:1 A/F ratio.. I dont want to mess with the tune with the maf plus I am waiting to get HP tuners next month.. I havent had the bottle on the car since that dyno which was in March.. I sprayed 1 bottle through the car since the motor was built and I broke a carrier bearing on my stock rear end.. My car weighs in at 3380 with me in it and 3212 without me in it.. I get 33 mpg on the highway and 25 around town On MOTOR... My bad for talking **** to you.. I should have checked your **** out before hand..

Well now you know 2 people with V6's running faster then V8's which is kinda stupid since a 96-02 v6 f-body will run faster times then alot of 2nd and 3rd gen V8 F-bodies stock...

How can you say that without stating how fast your car runs?

I havent ran my car at the track yet with the new motor... I can tell you last year with a 90 wet shot on my stock motor with the same exaust setup, same intake and with 3.73's I ran a 14.1@102mph.. The car on made 292rwhp and 393rwtq on a 90 shot but the tq only held up ther from 3000-4000rpms and droped off badly.. now Â*with the cam my car makes 400+ tq from 3000 all the way to 5500 and starts to fall off.. But you right the only real way to find out is go to the track.. put it this way 12secondv6 went 12.1@110 with 315rwhp and 380tq and a race weight around 3000lbs..

:funny: you arent james enough said...as far as 14.1@102 with a 90 shot Craig(little g) just ran 13.5@100 NA no nitrous, stock block, stock heads, stock cam, stock rockers, stock pushrods,...get the picture? Hit the track run a 12 and shut all the people in the 13's or slower up otherwise please stop talking your making yourself sound worse then you probably are.

[NJSPEEDER]

since this has degraded into trash talk i am locking it up.
if anyone wishes to prove a point/grudge/shut someone up please show up at the club's officially unofficial grudge day at island dragway on sunday october 16th

later
tim