Took the camaro to Etown

[Koll]

3 Runs. Englishtown, NJ.

first run
R/T .194
60' 2.561
330 7.140
1/8 10.917
MPH 64.08
1000 14.165
1/4 16.922
MPH 81.39

Second run I ran with a little stall (Best)

R/T .505
60' 2.461
330 7.029
1/8 10.813
MPH 65.41
1000 14.055
1/4 16.796
MPH 83.00

Final run I ran with a better stall

R/T .317
60' 2.503
330 7.099
1/8 10.879
MPH 64.04
1000 14.121
1/4 16.870
MPH 81.70

BTW. I beat Jim in his Celica. He ran a 17.376@80.95. And on my last run, who do I run against? A Z06 that ran a 12.731@114.35

Anthony has a video of us racing. I need to get it

[BigAls87Z28]

Thoes are some of the worst 60 fts I have seen. Unless it was raining out last night, that is horrible.

[GP99GT]

yeah that is pretty bad, i cut 2.2's with my FWD

[Ian]

he has over 300K miles on the original motor and trans. I'm suprised he made it to the end of the track, let alone three times! :shock: :lol:

[Savage_Messiah]

Let's go heads up :lol:

[NJSPEEDER]

was teh car spinning or bogging off the line? those short times are horible.
for the mileage you have your trap speeds aren't too bad really. most tbi cars when new trapped around 85ish, so you are only 2mph off on that one run.
get practicing and tuning on that thing and bring it to grudge day at island oct 16th :)

later
tim

[foff667]

your 60's are horrible...you should at least be in the 2.20-2.30 range even at your power level...get those down & you should be able to cut some low 16's at least.

[Koll]

I know its not much, but what kind of power can the stock TBI unit support up to? I was thinking (just for the time being) taking one of my 4bbl manifolds, putting on a 4bbl to 2 bbl spacer and just running the stock TB/

[foff667]

tim was probably putting down 250 to the wheels with a stock TB with the fins machined off...he was running 14.1's with it I believe...na.

[Koll]

tim was probably putting down 250 to the wheels with a stock TB with the fins machined off...he was running 14.1's with it I believe...na.

You mean the fins on the top? If so I ported thoes off.

http://home.comcast.net/~boss429/IMG_4979.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~boss429/IMG_4980.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~boss429/IMG_4981.jpg

[foff667]

the 3rd pic is what im talking about...he also had larger injectors.

[Koll]

the 3rd pic is what im talking about...he also had larger injectors.

The first pic shows the side I did, and the side I didnt do.

[NJSPEEDER]

while you are at it get yourself some gasket material or another gasket and some longer screws to move teh injector tower up a little. it will allow the fuel cone to be spread wider as it accelerates through the tb, better fuel atomization. that makes better throttle response.
it will also create a larger space for air to get into the tb without the interference of the injector tower creating a little bit more high rpm flow.
the stock tb and injectors can easily handle over 300hp with correct fuel pressure and pump.
you have to make an adaptor to put the tbi unit on top of a 4bbl intake. it does not bolt down teh same as a 2bbl carb.

later
tim

[Koll]

Something like this right?
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=esearch.asp&N=110&Ntk=KeywordSearch&Ntt=tbi+adapter&x=0&y=0

If I just do the intake, would I have to tune it? (I dont know how much the computer in these cars is involved)

[JL8Jeff]

Chevy used a TBI adapter on the 1990 454SS pickup trucks. They pop up on Ebay and they have the Q-jet bolt pattern. You should be able to grab one off Ebay for under $30. Matt might still have his since he changed over to the Edelbrock TBI intake.

[NJSPEEDER]

that is a good adaptor koll.
jeff brings up an excellant point though. teh big block manifold adaptors work good on any intake with a q-jet pattern. only problem with the is they are very tall.
if you can get your hands on some 1/4-3/8 thick aluminum plate you can easily make an adaptor that will work in an hour or so and not spend $40bucks.
i will see if i have materials around. if i do i can get one together for you.

later
tim

[Koll]

That'd be cool tim. And just for clarification, a big block manifold would not work. I assume you mean a reg. carb manifold.

[NJSPEEDER]

i meant the adaptor from a big block tb. gm used a standard q-jet intake with a water donut adaptror to put tbi on. i have a fwe of those donuts around but they are at least 2 inches tall.

later
tim

[Tru2Chevy]

Glad to see you running the car Koll, but damn. My '91 Lumina (3.1/A3 with 184k miles) cuts low 2.4 60's all the time. Your car must be bogging off the line bad....

- Justin

[12secondv6]

My sexy neon woulda murdered you ;)

[Koll]

My sexy neon woulda murdered you ;)

Would have......key word.

[12secondv6]

My sexy neon woulda murdered you Â*;)

Would have......key word.

Still have the neon ;)

[enRo]

Dude, your car is now officially slower than my old LG4, and thats bad.

[EVIL90SS]

i can run that in the toyota for sure