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ar0ck
09-10-2005, 05:39 PM
After seeing garetwp's Mini Im hooked on something like that, so I think this is my next major do it yourself modification!

http://www.keliente.com/pewter%2000/sept/delete1.jpg

http://www.keliente.com/pewter%2000/sept/delete3.jpg

http://www.keliente.com/pewter%2000/sept/delete7.jpg

http://www.keliente.com/pewter%2000/sept/delete6.jpg

http://www.keliente.com/pewter%2000/sept/delete5.jpg

A simple 4-point cage would also look nice with a monkey bar to attach a camera :lol:

ar0ck
09-10-2005, 05:42 PM
Actually just found this!

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/shop/images/g2-harness-bar.jpg
Allows for the attachment of five point harnesses in the correct safety position
All bars are made from 1.5" diameter heat-treated steel and are powder coated red or black.
Submarine brackets available
Also a good place for a Camera mount

PDubs87Z28
09-10-2005, 05:45 PM
Thats whats up! i like that. I just put the back seat in my camaro down and put **** under the seat but i like that even more! If you got plans on paper how to do that let me know because thats hot!
i ******** hate people in the back on my car and thats an even better excuse not to drive more than one person around!

PDubs87Z28
09-10-2005, 05:46 PM
Actually just found this!

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/shop/images/g2-harness-bar.jpg
Allows for the attachment of five point harnesses in the correct safety position
All bars are made from 1.5" diameter heat-treated steel and are powder coated red or black.
Submarine brackets available
Also a good place for a Camera mount

:shock: where did you find that??? got a link?

qwikz28
09-10-2005, 05:46 PM
where does it mount to? is it like some sort of chassis or suspension brace?

Tsar
09-10-2005, 05:53 PM
So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? :? Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume...

PDubs87Z28
09-10-2005, 06:00 PM
So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*:? Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume...
I get screwed over and have to drive people around which i don't like doing. I have a few punk ass lazy friends who are broke and don't drive their cars anywhere because they're lazy ****s and i get ****ed over going someplace and getting asked for rides. I should just put a taxi sign on the roof and start charging people since gas is really expensive.
I personally think that looks really good and i don't like the back seat in the car as is. I just keep the back part down and its some what looks like that.

qwikz28
09-10-2005, 06:10 PM
i like having the back seat when needed though. i'm with paul though, i put my seat down when im not using it

j0n
09-10-2005, 06:18 PM
i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it

btw thats not alex's car...its got a 97+ console and a black shiftknob

ar0ck
09-10-2005, 06:22 PM
So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*:? Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume...

Weight Reductions!!!

Im not sure on how much the entire back seat assembly weight's, but Im sure Little G or NJSPEEDER could tell you more accuretly.

I never drive passengers in my car. Even if their light weights I still think my car is dragging ass.

j0n
09-10-2005, 06:23 PM
So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*:? Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume...

Weight Reductions!!!

Im not sure on how much the entire back seat assembly weight's, but Im sure Little G or NJSPEEDER could tell you more accuretly.

I never drive passengers in my car. Â*Even if their light weights I still think my car is dragging ass.

no thats you missing third

PDubs87Z28
09-10-2005, 06:23 PM
i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it

btw thats not alex's car...its got a 97+ console and a black shiftknob

Really....will it fit up into my 3rd gen?

ar0ck
09-10-2005, 06:23 PM
So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*:? Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume...

Weight Reductions!!!

Im not sure on how much the entire back seat assembly weight's, but Im sure Little G or NJSPEEDER could tell you more accuretly.

I never drive passengers in my car. Â*Even if their light weights I still think my car is dragging ass.

no thats you missing third

Um No, Really J0n the jokes really ****ing old and frankly Im tired of it.

j0n
09-10-2005, 06:24 PM
i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it

btw thats not alex's car...its got a 97+ console and a black shiftknob

Really....will it fit up into my 3rd gen?

not sure...i jsut got the bar myself from a friend...but im going to go with a 5-point bar so i dont need it...i would assume it would fit...ill get you a part number by tonight probably

PDubs87Z28
09-10-2005, 06:28 PM
i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it

btw thats not alex's car...its got a 97+ console and a black shiftknob

Really....will it fit up into my 3rd gen?

not sure...i jsut got the bar myself from a friend...but im going to go with a 5-point bar so i dont need it...i would assume it would fit...ill get you a part number by tonight probably
good **** let me know because if its good to go i'll come snag that and save it for later.

skorpion317
09-11-2005, 12:16 AM
the backseat weighs about 30 lbs. in a 4th gen. the seats themselves are light, since they're made out of foam, but the back piece weighs the most. the rear seat belt brackets are a bitch to take off, GM put Loctite on the bolts. I nearly burnt out the motor on my cordless drill trying to take them out.

alex, is there a kit you found for the rear seat delete? i know they're out there, i just haven't been able to find them.

GP99GT
09-11-2005, 12:22 AM
cordless drill? bah

ratchet and a pipe....loctite wont stand a chance

ar0ck
09-11-2005, 12:35 AM
the backseat weighs about 30 lbs. in a 4th gen. the seats themselves are light, since they're made out of foam, but the back piece weighs the most. the rear seat belt brackets are a bitch to take off, GM put Loctite on the bolts. I nearly burnt out the motor on my cordless drill trying to take them out.

alex, is there a kit you found for the rear seat delete? i know they're out there, i just haven't been able to find them.

I did find kits but they look like a waste of money iMO. I was looking through CZ28, and alot of people say the manufactured ones dont fit very well. Im going to see what kind of hard material I can use, but for starters I want to find a simila carpet material. If I can just get that, I would use a fabric to cover anything un-citely.

qwikz28
09-11-2005, 02:21 AM
but what is its purpose? its just a bar to mount a harness and a camera?

skorpion317
09-11-2005, 02:44 AM
but what is its purpose? its just a bar to mount a harness and a camera?

well, if it was done totally right, there would be a full roll cage in there. that would strengthen the chassis, as well as protect the driver in the event of a rollover.

Savage_Messiah
09-11-2005, 01:09 PM
who needs a delete kit? thats like adding the weight right back on, just for looks. And yea those seatbelt bolts are a bitch, not to mention that theyre torx so I tried with my bare hands (i have one of those tool things with like 6 or 8.... ok nevermind ****tiest description ever, but yea)

skorpion317
09-11-2005, 01:17 PM
who needs a delete kit? thats like adding the weight right back on, just for looks. And yea those seatbelt bolts are a bitch, not to mention that theyre torx so I tried with my bare hands (i have one of those tool things with like 6 or 8.... ok nevermind ****tiest description ever, but yea)

not if you make the kit out of fiberglass :lol:

Savage_Messiah
09-11-2005, 01:34 PM
thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to be

Tsar
09-11-2005, 01:46 PM
thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to bepics? ialways wanted to remove the back seat and mold some subs in there, with fiberglass of course. ive seen it done in a supra and it looked pretty good. :shrug:

Tru2Chevy
09-11-2005, 01:49 PM
Craig has a rear seat delete panel in his car, it's just flat though, not boxed. Of course it's only in during daily driving, not at the track. I'll see if we can get pics/measurements for you alex, looks VERY simple to make.

- Justin

NJSPEEDER
09-11-2005, 02:19 PM
if you go with a 6pt with low side bars it would add a lot to the chassis stiffness of the car. then you can mount the camera on the helmet bar.

later
tim

Savage_Messiah
09-11-2005, 02:41 PM
ill get pics sometime... still playing around with what I got to get the best sound, but I figured somethign pretty good out. Noah where did the boxes come from?

PDubs87Z28
09-11-2005, 05:27 PM
so is there like a link i can go to and see more on this because im ganna go ahead and rip my back seat out and do this.

and j0n did you have any luck on checking that part out for me?

qwikz28
09-11-2005, 06:43 PM
thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to beBAD IDEA!!!! you're losing the acoustic value of owning a hatchback!!!! TRUST ME!!! put them in the hatch, and no place else!

j0n
09-11-2005, 09:09 PM
so is there like a link i can go to and see more on this because im ganna go ahead and rip my back seat out and do this.

and j0n did you have any luck on checking that part out for me?

****er sold it on me...so negative on the bar...i do know that is called a harness bar thoug :evil:

Savage_Messiah
09-11-2005, 09:19 PM
thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to beBAD IDEA!!!! you're losing the acoustic value of owning a hatchback!!!! TRUST ME!!! put them in the hatch, and no place else!

The closest I can get to that is puttign them on the hump of the gas tank, unless I get new box(es). And say I have to slam the brakes, nail the gas, or turn real quick... they slide and fall

Mike
09-11-2005, 09:32 PM
the bar is made by g2

http://www.lmperformance.com/2943/17.html

and can be found there.......

qwikz28
09-11-2005, 11:46 PM
thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to beBAD IDEA!!!! you're losing the acoustic value of owning a hatchback!!!! TRUST ME!!! put them in the hatch, and no place else!

The closest I can get to that is puttign them on the hump of the gas tank, unless I get new box(es). Â*And say I have to slam the brakes, nail the gas, or turn real quick... they slide and fallrubber feet for the bottom of the box, or brackets to screw it in. directly behind the rear seats angled towards the glass would be the ideal spot. if you come to grease trucks this week i can give you a visual

PDubs87Z28
09-12-2005, 01:22 AM
so is there like a link i can go to and see more on this because im ganna go ahead and rip my back seat out and do this.

and j0n did you have any luck on checking that part out for me?

****er sold it on me...so negative on the bar...i do know that is called a harness bar thoug :evil:
that blows. its all good though. time and money man thats all my car has on mods

skorpion317
09-12-2005, 01:28 AM
thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to be

bah, who needs subs....they're just unnecessary weight.

j0n
09-12-2005, 01:45 AM
so is there like a link i can go to and see more on this because im ganna go ahead and rip my back seat out and do this.

and j0n did you have any luck on checking that part out for me?

****er sold it on me...so negative on the bar...i do know that is called a harness bar thoug :evil:
that blows. its all good though. time and money man thats all my car has on mods

what about that cutout?

Savage_Messiah
09-12-2005, 01:56 AM
thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to be

bah, who needs subs....they're just unnecessary weight.

excuse the music major for caring alittle bit about sound quality on the daily driver

skorpion317
09-12-2005, 01:59 AM
all you need is a good head unit and good speakers. no need for the subs.

12secondv6
09-12-2005, 07:53 AM
Rear but part of seat - 3-4 lbs
Rear back part of seat 12 lbs
Rear seat belts 4 lbs

qwikz28
09-12-2005, 10:29 AM
all you need is a good head unit and good speakers. no need for the subs.thats what i have. i'm goin with a 12" sub just for the hell of it though. its only like a extra 20lbs or so.

kasey- visit fbodyaudio.com. i learned almost everything i know from there. like 2 or 3 of the guys compete professionally and one of the guys owns a car audio shop. they're good.