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NJSPEEDER
10-27-2005, 08:25 PM
well, i finally got around to tearing it down and the verdict is that i had a catastrophic oil pump failure.
tons of play in it and when it did turn it sounded like it was full of gravel. it sticks and has rough spots as you spin the input shaft. there were also several more signs that the oil was not circulating, most obvious was oil that was cooked onto the top of the pump pick-up.
there was a lot of broken stuff too, pics coming soon.
the #1 connecting rod that failed had enough of the crank end removed that i pushed it out of teh cyl by hand after i took teh head off. the piston had hit the head hard enough that the face of teh piston has a very clear impression of the combustion chamber in it.
looks like about 5 valves got hit, the oil pan is toasted(3 or 4 holes and part of the lip ripped off), 2 pistons are sitting crooked in the block, crank is jammed forward so that the front counter weight is touching the block, the #3 piston is sitting 4inches down in the hole(i thought that was an interesting trick with a 3.48" stroke).
basically the bottom end is so jammed in place that it wouldn't turn in either direction when i hit it with a 5lbs mini-sledge.

took out part of the cyl sleeve along with the side of the block. note the huge chunk taken out of the crank. ain't savin that one :)
http://www.njfboa.org/TimImages/BlockDestruction1.jpg

dented, holed, and ripped the lip off the oil pan
http://www.njfboa.org/TimImages/BlockDestruction2.jpg

inside the oil pan i was lucky enough to discover what looks liek fish tank gravel covered in a fine layer of cooked mobil1
http://www.njfboa.org/TimImages/BlockDestruction3.jpg

ahhh, #1, the home of the disaster. note the impression of teh combustion chamber, including 1 valve in the face of the piston
http://www.njfboa.org/TimImages/BlockDestruction4.jpg

a better view of the hole with the debris removed. there were 2 pieces of the block still being held on by oil pan bolts. with them off you can see how big the hole really is
http://www.njfboa.org/TimImages/BlockDestruction5.jpg

later
tim

qwikz28
10-27-2005, 08:36 PM
doesnt sound all too salvagable. or just more of a reason to buy a big block

bitchincamaro
10-27-2005, 08:40 PM
big blocks are overated. big small blocks are where its at :P

qwikz28
10-27-2005, 08:41 PM
big blocks are overated. big small blocks are where its at :Pyeah but big blocks sound cool 8)

bad64chevelle
10-27-2005, 09:20 PM
big blocks are overated. big small blocks are where its at :P

Im with you on that one!

camaroracer1992
10-27-2005, 10:26 PM
damn man that sucks.... at least when i cooked my motor i only toasted a valve and a piston and hte block....... you on the other hand are the king of internal disaster!!

jims69camaro
10-27-2005, 10:52 PM
big blocks are overated. big small blocks are where its at :P

the reason why i plan on a 406. of course, you can build a 454 small block. :shock:

tim, when did all of this happen? were you racing it, or is this a fresh rebuild, or what? what'd i miss?

Ian
10-27-2005, 11:26 PM
he was driving home from work. Not a fresh rebuild, but a little less than 10,000 miles on it.

jims69camaro
10-28-2005, 06:19 AM
argh, what a PITA.

foff667
10-28-2005, 09:21 AM
i still say duct tape can be your best friend tim :lol:

Savage_Messiah
10-28-2005, 09:22 AM
JB weld that sumbitch!

Tru2Chevy
10-28-2005, 10:27 AM
the reason why i plan on a 406. Â*of course, you can build a 454 small block. Â* :shock:

Gotta love the 400's :wink:

tim, when did all of this happen? were you racing it, or is this a fresh rebuild, or what? what'd i miss?

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6658

- Justin

Slow_88
10-29-2005, 07:45 AM
Sorry to hear about your carnage but atleast you have a backup....

jims69camaro
10-29-2005, 08:26 AM
the reason why i plan on a 406. Â*of course, you can build a 454 small block. Â* :shock:

Gotta love the 400's Â*:wink:

[/feeling stupid for not checking page two of the index]

so when i ordered the parts to complete the carb rebuild i found a machine shop. Â*right up the road from my house. Â*see, it used to be a marine place, then a truck accessory place (caps and tonneau covers) and now it's a full on auto shop (the old school kind) with stuff on the shelves and machine shop in the back. one of the reasons i never paid it any mind was the truck stuff - mostly pep boyz bling bling section with neon and chrome chain steering wheels and stuff.

now, if the lawyer was correct and the case settles in january, february like he said, i could have the 406 ready to go into the '87 as early as may... (i'm slightly ecstatic) and i might even be able to save some money on internals and what-not, instead of ordering them straight out of a catalog. and i am volunteering to do stupid stuff like torque the bolts and whatever to try and save some money on the labor. i've finally come to terms that the motor will not get built if it continues to sit on the engine stand in my office... [sheepish grin]

so, tim, did the motor fire yet?

Koll
10-29-2005, 03:32 PM
big blocks are overated. big small blocks are where its at :P

:?

NJSPEEDER
10-29-2005, 06:06 PM
got the pics up for all to enjoy