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Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:12 PM
so I failed it on 4 counts in Paramus today..

Blinker blinking too fast?? Some of you may have seen it recently... it blinks at a normal speed (the paper says the limit is up to i think 130 times per minute... no way that mine is faster than that). I'll catch a video of it later.

Brakes - "failed automated test." Guy said to me - "you have no back brakes and your front ones are too tight." OK, I can see my back brakes being dead from burnouts and also since it's the same rotors, calipers, and pads that were on the junkyard rear when I got it. Fronts being "too tight", i dunno what theyre talking about there. Does anyone know brakes real well that can help me out?

Horn - "inaudible from 200 ft." Fine, whatever, the horns I bought the high note is dead, sounds like a friggin steamboat... I wouldnt say theyre inaudible from 200 ft but failing, ok.

The last one's the best...

on the paper it reads "RIGHT SIDE - MODIFIED EXHAUST" (yes in caps.) Guy said to me - "your exhaust is modified". WTF?!?!?!? the **** is this ****. They passed my license plate being tied on by a piece of string, my alignment being ****ed more than a crack whore outside a rehab center, and my abs, air bag, and brake (i dunno it just started yesterday, dash e-brake light is on but but i fail on having a modified exhaust?!?! they can even fail you for that?!?!?!?!

And what is also funny is how the paper says that I have 45 days to get re-inspected... but if it's not done by 11/30/05 my registration can be suspended :roll: f'in dmv morons. Well I'm glad I put my cat back on before I went... theyve got a nice mirror they go around the car with.

I'm probably gonna shell out the cash now to get new rear pads and rotors, and have a garage I know redo the inspection, cuz im not taking my damn catback off for this state place. I'd appreciate some help on the brakes issue though, if anyone's got any idea.

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:12 PM
so I failed it on 4 counts in Paramus today..

Blinker blinking too fast?? Some of you may have seen it recently... it blinks at a normal speed (the paper says the limit is up to i think 130 times per minute... no way that mine is faster than that). I'll catch a video of it later.

Brakes - "failed automated test." Guy said to me - "you have no back brakes and your front ones are too tight." OK, I can see my back brakes being dead from burnouts and also since it's the same rotors, calipers, and pads that were on the junkyard rear when I got it. Fronts being "too tight", i dunno what theyre talking about there. Does anyone know brakes real well that can help me out?

Horn - "inaudible from 200 ft." Fine, whatever, the horns I bought the high note is dead, sounds like a friggin steamboat... I wouldnt say theyre inaudible from 200 ft but failing, ok.

The last one's the best...

on the paper it reads "RIGHT SIDE - MODIFIED EXHAUST" (yes in caps.) Guy said to me - "your exhaust is modified". WTF?!?!?!? the **** is this ****. They passed my license plate being tied on by a piece of string, my alignment being ****ed more than a crack whore outside a rehab center, and my abs, air bag, and brake (i dunno it just started yesterday, dash e-brake light is on but but i fail on having a modified exhaust?!?! they can even fail you for that?!?!?!?!

And what is also funny is how the paper says that I have 45 days to get re-inspected... but if it's not done by 11/30/05 my registration can be suspended :roll: f'in dmv morons. Well I'm glad I put my cat back on before I went... theyve got a nice mirror they go around the car with.

I'm probably gonna shell out the cash now to get new rear pads and rotors, and have a garage I know redo the inspection, cuz im not taking my damn catback off for this state place. I'd appreciate some help on the brakes issue though, if anyone's got any idea.

enRo
10-31-2005, 07:19 PM
Dude, just get different tips. I can stick my left leg in one of them if I wanted to. If they see different "stock-looking" tips, just tell them "The exhaust is so shiny because I had it replaced like you told me to".

enRo
10-31-2005, 07:19 PM
Dude, just get different tips. I can stick my left leg in one of them if I wanted to. If they see different "stock-looking" tips, just tell them "The exhaust is so shiny because I had it replaced like you told me to".

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:24 PM
well they go around the whole car with a mirror

and a magnaflow catback is illegal?! with a magnaflow high flow cat and stock manifolds and y?

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:24 PM
well they go around the whole car with a mirror

and a magnaflow catback is illegal?! with a magnaflow high flow cat and stock manifolds and y?

NJSPEEDER
10-31-2005, 07:29 PM
magnaflow cat backs are 50state emissions legal. you can walk into DMV with the fed/carb information and they will hav eto drop that point of the failure.
your horn not being loud enough, you mentioned that when you were here as well.
rebleed your brakes and try again, maybe throw on some new pads as an added safety measure.
the blinker thing i have never heard before. ask them if they got fresh crack this mornign or some day old **** that had goen bad.

later
tim

NJSPEEDER
10-31-2005, 07:29 PM
magnaflow cat backs are 50state emissions legal. you can walk into DMV with the fed/carb information and they will hav eto drop that point of the failure.
your horn not being loud enough, you mentioned that when you were here as well.
rebleed your brakes and try again, maybe throw on some new pads as an added safety measure.
the blinker thing i have never heard before. ask them if they got fresh crack this mornign or some day old **** that had goen bad.

later
tim

enRo
10-31-2005, 07:30 PM
Then confront them with papers and say you demand a Decibal test. They really SHOULDNT fail you for modifying your exhaust, unless they've gotten real nazi about it

enRo
10-31-2005, 07:30 PM
Then confront them with papers and say you demand a Decibal test. They really SHOULDNT fail you for modifying your exhaust, unless they've gotten real nazi about it

NJSPEEDER
10-31-2005, 07:39 PM
don't ask for a DB test, jsut show them the federal paperwork that comes with teh system. they can't argue with the federal government.

later
tim

NJSPEEDER
10-31-2005, 07:39 PM
don't ask for a DB test, jsut show them the federal paperwork that comes with teh system. they can't argue with the federal government.

later
tim

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:39 PM
I think they did decibal test me, either that or the guy liked how it sounded and wanted to hold at it a certain rpm (sounded like 2500-3000 to me) for like 2-3 seconds. They didn't say it was too loud just that it was modified, I think they woulda told me if it was a volume issue. Plus i'm pretty sure that it's within the legal limit.

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:39 PM
I think they did decibal test me, either that or the guy liked how it sounded and wanted to hold at it a certain rpm (sounded like 2500-3000 to me) for like 2-3 seconds. They didn't say it was too loud just that it was modified, I think they woulda told me if it was a volume issue. Plus i'm pretty sure that it's within the legal limit.

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:42 PM
yea now I just have to find the paperwork or if someone else has it (alex? ted? john? anyone else with magnaflow?) then borrow that... or get new paperwork from magnaflow

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 07:42 PM
yea now I just have to find the paperwork or if someone else has it (alex? ted? john? anyone else with magnaflow?) then borrow that... or get new paperwork from magnaflow

enRo
10-31-2005, 07:43 PM
Then Ill tell you in exact words what my exhaust mechanic told me when my 86 TA failed for noise pollution: "You caught a mad DMV worker on a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day"

enRo
10-31-2005, 07:43 PM
Then Ill tell you in exact words what my exhaust mechanic told me when my 86 TA failed for noise pollution: "You caught a mad DMV worker on a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day"

deadtrend1
10-31-2005, 07:54 PM
My truck has a magnaflow on it, and it went through the inspection easily. Actually, I think guy was reving it a little at the end just before he got out to put the pass sticker on it.

Actually the best (meaning worst with stupid ********) inspection was with my old red LO3 Bird. Tim remembers the car. I failed for my
1) third brake light being out went into the back seat, tapped it and it worked.
2) Insurance card laminated Since theres no glove box, and everything i own that was in the car was shoved in the center console, the insurance card got crushed all the time. So i was working at office max at the time and i was bored at work so I laminated it. Oh well, no bigge, i got a new one from Allstate like the next day.

This last one is what put me over the edge.
3) Gas Cap
Ok, i went home and grabbed the BRAND NEW gas cap i had on my dead Camaro and went back.
DMV Immagrant "Where is the receipt for the gas cap?"
me "I didn't buy it, I took it off the car that doesn't run"
DMV "state requires you to have a receipt"
me "Why should I buy one when I have a new one that you didn't check yet"
DMV "state requires a receipt"
Me "I DON'T CARE, YOU DIDN'T CHECK THIS ONE YET. IF IT DOESN'T LEAK THEN WHY SHOULD I GO BUY A NEW ONE WHEN THERES ONE SCREWED ONTO THE CAR ALREADY"

this went on for a little bit longer.

then I failed on my current Trans Am for something with my rear left shock being to bouncy or something. I just paid someone 40 bucks to pass it, figured it would be cheaper then new shocks.

deadtrend1
10-31-2005, 07:54 PM
My truck has a magnaflow on it, and it went through the inspection easily. Actually, I think guy was reving it a little at the end just before he got out to put the pass sticker on it.

Actually the best (meaning worst with stupid ********) inspection was with my old red LO3 Bird. Tim remembers the car. I failed for my
1) third brake light being out went into the back seat, tapped it and it worked.
2) Insurance card laminated Since theres no glove box, and everything i own that was in the car was shoved in the center console, the insurance card got crushed all the time. So i was working at office max at the time and i was bored at work so I laminated it. Oh well, no bigge, i got a new one from Allstate like the next day.

This last one is what put me over the edge.
3) Gas Cap
Ok, i went home and grabbed the BRAND NEW gas cap i had on my dead Camaro and went back.
DMV Immagrant "Where is the receipt for the gas cap?"
me "I didn't buy it, I took it off the car that doesn't run"
DMV "state requires you to have a receipt"
me "Why should I buy one when I have a new one that you didn't check yet"
DMV "state requires a receipt"
Me "I DON'T CARE, YOU DIDN'T CHECK THIS ONE YET. IF IT DOESN'T LEAK THEN WHY SHOULD I GO BUY A NEW ONE WHEN THERES ONE SCREWED ONTO THE CAR ALREADY"

this went on for a little bit longer.

then I failed on my current Trans Am for something with my rear left shock being to bouncy or something. I just paid someone 40 bucks to pass it, figured it would be cheaper then new shocks.

Teds89IROC
10-31-2005, 08:34 PM
I don't have the paperwork from mine, the shop that installed it and fabbed up my Y-pipe musta scrapped it. Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) I'm sure they can help you out...maybe give you a number to call or something. As for your rear brakes, I'd just replace the pads..depending on how bad the rotors are. When I first had the IROC inspected their skidpad showed I had like no rear brakes..I slapped on new pads and was fine. As for the fronts, I wouldn't worry, just bleed all of them like Tim said. I don't understand how they can be "too tight" their meter is a skid pad which shows when the brakes start to grab. They're a bunch of morons, first time I had the RS inspected the retard set it up on the emissions dyno with the front wheels on the rollers and started to chock the rear wheels :roll: I've heard once you fail you'll have a hard time getting it to pass, unless it is truely legit and you replaced everything. The IROC's inspection is due november and there is no way I'm passing lol I have to call my friends mom at DMV and try to switch registration to collectors. Only thing I'm worried about is on their site it says you can only swap it over when the registration is up..mines up in April, So for probably this month and March I'll have to watch out......perhaps lol

~Ted

Teds89IROC
10-31-2005, 08:34 PM
I don't have the paperwork from mine, the shop that installed it and fabbed up my Y-pipe musta scrapped it. Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) I'm sure they can help you out...maybe give you a number to call or something. As for your rear brakes, I'd just replace the pads..depending on how bad the rotors are. When I first had the IROC inspected their skidpad showed I had like no rear brakes..I slapped on new pads and was fine. As for the fronts, I wouldn't worry, just bleed all of them like Tim said. I don't understand how they can be "too tight" their meter is a skid pad which shows when the brakes start to grab. They're a bunch of morons, first time I had the RS inspected the retard set it up on the emissions dyno with the front wheels on the rollers and started to chock the rear wheels :roll: I've heard once you fail you'll have a hard time getting it to pass, unless it is truely legit and you replaced everything. The IROC's inspection is due november and there is no way I'm passing lol I have to call my friends mom at DMV and try to switch registration to collectors. Only thing I'm worried about is on their site it says you can only swap it over when the registration is up..mines up in April, So for probably this month and March I'll have to watch out......perhaps lol

~Ted

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 08:36 PM
Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) Â*~Ted

good call

and it's newbie question time, can anyone give me a step-by-step for brake bleeding??

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 08:36 PM
Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) Â*~Ted

good call

and it's newbie question time, can anyone give me a step-by-step for brake bleeding??

Teds89IROC
10-31-2005, 08:47 PM
the best is to get 2 people. Have your wheel off with newspaper all around and make sure you get the proper size wrench and are turning in the correct direction..don't strip them..don't ask me why I included that :lol: have someone inside the car pump the brakes up till they are hard and have them keep the pressure on. loosen the valve and air (if there is any) will shoot out and then fluid will shoot out. You repeat this till the only thing that comes out is a stream of fluid, no bubbles or anything. They sell self bleeder valves, but personally I wouldn't trust them. You could also buy a plastic hose that will fit over the valve..loosen the valve first, slap the hose on and have the other end in a constainer of brake fluid..then pump the pedal yourself and the air will be pushed out and the only thing that can get sucked back in is brake fluid. I think getting another person is easier.

~Ted

Teds89IROC
10-31-2005, 08:47 PM
the best is to get 2 people. Have your wheel off with newspaper all around and make sure you get the proper size wrench and are turning in the correct direction..don't strip them..don't ask me why I included that :lol: have someone inside the car pump the brakes up till they are hard and have them keep the pressure on. loosen the valve and air (if there is any) will shoot out and then fluid will shoot out. You repeat this till the only thing that comes out is a stream of fluid, no bubbles or anything. They sell self bleeder valves, but personally I wouldn't trust them. You could also buy a plastic hose that will fit over the valve..loosen the valve first, slap the hose on and have the other end in a constainer of brake fluid..then pump the pedal yourself and the air will be pushed out and the only thing that can get sucked back in is brake fluid. I think getting another person is easier.

~Ted

qwikz28
10-31-2005, 08:48 PM
Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) Â*~Ted

good call

and it's newbie question time, can anyone give me a step-by-step for brake bleeding??i have a brake bleeder kit that i bought for the isuzu and never used cause my bleeder screw fell off. i bought it for 45 if you wanna buy it off me for like 20 bucks. it just makes it possible to bleed your brakes by yourself, thats all

qwikz28
10-31-2005, 08:48 PM
Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) Â*~Ted

good call

and it's newbie question time, can anyone give me a step-by-step for brake bleeding??i have a brake bleeder kit that i bought for the isuzu and never used cause my bleeder screw fell off. i bought it for 45 if you wanna buy it off me for like 20 bucks. it just makes it possible to bleed your brakes by yourself, thats all

JL8Jeff
10-31-2005, 09:03 PM
The rear brakes don't do much braking on these cars and if your rotors and pads are worn pretty bad then the fronts will be doing almost 95-100% of the braking and that's probably why they said the front was too tight. Get new pads and rotors for the rear and it will probably balance out a lot better but it still might need bleeding.

JL8Jeff
10-31-2005, 09:03 PM
The rear brakes don't do much braking on these cars and if your rotors and pads are worn pretty bad then the fronts will be doing almost 95-100% of the braking and that's probably why they said the front was too tight. Get new pads and rotors for the rear and it will probably balance out a lot better but it still might need bleeding.

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 09:45 PM
sounds good except where would I find the bleeder valve :lol:

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 09:45 PM
sounds good except where would I find the bleeder valve :lol:

The Fixer
10-31-2005, 10:50 PM
The rear brakes don't do much braking on these cars and if your rotors and pads are worn pretty bad then the fronts will be doing almost 95-100% of the braking and that's probably why they said the front was too tight. Â*Get new pads and rotors for the rear and it will probably balance out a lot better but it still might need bleeding.

That's what I was thinking. The front pads are ~new, and really good ones. If it's not pulling to one side or the other, I agree with Jeff and say it's actually that the rear brakes aren't strong enough. Time for new pads and rotors out back maybe?

And Kasey, the bleeder valves are on the calipers. They are probably 10mm nuts with a hole and short tube on them for the brake fluid to come out of. I believe they're on the top, but I could be wrong.

The Fixer
10-31-2005, 10:50 PM
The rear brakes don't do much braking on these cars and if your rotors and pads are worn pretty bad then the fronts will be doing almost 95-100% of the braking and that's probably why they said the front was too tight. Â*Get new pads and rotors for the rear and it will probably balance out a lot better but it still might need bleeding.

That's what I was thinking. The front pads are ~new, and really good ones. If it's not pulling to one side or the other, I agree with Jeff and say it's actually that the rear brakes aren't strong enough. Time for new pads and rotors out back maybe?

And Kasey, the bleeder valves are on the calipers. They are probably 10mm nuts with a hole and short tube on them for the brake fluid to come out of. I believe they're on the top, but I could be wrong.

GP99GT
10-31-2005, 10:54 PM
make sure you turn those bleeders VERY carefully...snap one off and youll be having lots of fun

GP99GT
10-31-2005, 10:54 PM
make sure you turn those bleeders VERY carefully...snap one off and youll be having lots of fun

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 11:12 PM
thanks guys... hey steve i doubt I can still cut the rear rotors, think i need new ones, but either way you have a free day where you can call up dynamic again?? :D

Savage_Messiah
10-31-2005, 11:12 PM
thanks guys... hey steve i doubt I can still cut the rear rotors, think i need new ones, but either way you have a free day where you can call up dynamic again?? :D

BigAls87Z28
11-01-2005, 12:33 AM
WTF? I passed with my Catco high flow cat and Hooker cat back on my 87 Z 2 years ago, and no one raised a stink about the exhaust. AND it passed inspection.

BigAls87Z28
11-01-2005, 12:33 AM
WTF? I passed with my Catco high flow cat and Hooker cat back on my 87 Z 2 years ago, and no one raised a stink about the exhaust. AND it passed inspection.

The Fixer
11-01-2005, 08:56 AM
thanks guys... hey steve i doubt I can still cut the rear rotors, think i need new ones, but either way you have a free day where you can call up dynamic again?? Â*:D

I think so buddy, but we'll have to do it soon. It's gonna get coooooooold out there! :)

BigAls87Z28
11-01-2005, 09:34 AM
Rotors and pads? CAKE Walk, especialy for the rears.

camaroracer1992
11-01-2005, 10:00 AM
damn im so glad i live in PA, id fail the inspection soooooooooo bad haha

Koll
11-01-2005, 10:17 AM
I failed for loud exhaust. WOOT WOOT.

Too bad its 50 state legal and not even all that loud.

The Fixer
11-01-2005, 12:29 PM
I don't understand how the DMV can assess how loud someone's exhaust is inside a long concrete building with 2 or 3 other cars running at the same time? Â*Assholian, IMO.

foff667
11-01-2005, 12:36 PM
Rotors and pads? Â*CAKE Walk, especialy for the rears.

I think the fronts are easier IMHO I hate doing rears.

foff667
11-01-2005, 12:38 PM
btw rear rotors $14 or $22 each through autozone & ~$13 for pads.

Savage_Messiah
11-04-2005, 08:53 PM
these pads are f'in TINY!!!

Teds89IROC
11-04-2005, 09:23 PM
these pads are f'in TINY!!!


JM says: "so are you little man!!!" :lol:

~Ted

JL8Jeff
11-04-2005, 10:08 PM
these pads are f'in TINY!!!

Yup, the rear brakes don't do that much work on the F-body but if properly bled with new pads/rotors, they work great! I've been driving my 96 all week and it has new pads/rotors and it stops awesome! I just got back in my 88 4Runner and almost ran through the first stop sign! These brakes are horrible. Looks like time for an upgrade because I doubt they'll pass inspection in June.

Savage_Messiah
11-05-2005, 12:39 AM
gotta run out in the morning to get the new rotors, then is installation and bleeding... the bleeding walkthrough given here by Ted is good right? he forget any little things?

Savage_Messiah
11-05-2005, 12:41 PM
so I hate when bolts (like the ones holding the caliper onto the whole assembly) are on so tight that i put an aluminum pipe on the end of the ratchet for some more leverage and it rips a hole through the aluminum... pads are changed, old rotors are getting another shot tomorrow with a breaker bar...

Oddball
11-05-2005, 10:52 PM
This is too funny. I always go near the middle of the month right when they open. Never had a problem except for my high-mount being dead. They rightly failed me for it. Turns out I unplugged the wire when working on the rear hatch assembly. I changed bulbs and plugged it back in and passed easily.

Oh, and if you think you might fail on emissions go on the wettest muggiest day possible. The extra moisture in the atmosphere will help you pass.

Savage_Messiah
11-06-2005, 01:05 AM
I have a 97, no emissions testing

Savage_Messiah
12-15-2005, 02:04 PM
Just got back from Wayne.. everything passed except the exhaust but not because it's modified but rather too loud.

I call the number on the paper because I realized I should ask how mant decibles it registered at... and they tell me that they dont measure it, but rather it's up to the discretion of the inspector.

That's ******** since its in an enclosed building... also ******** because the new rejected sticker lasts until 45 days from the FIRST inspection... which is today.

The inspector told me change the muffler and I'd be fine... but if this all is true that Ridgewood doesnt give a **** I'm gonna try them first.

Savage_Messiah
12-15-2005, 02:08 PM
and BTW I brought and showed my reciepts for the blinkers, pads and rotors, the printout of the 50-state legal paperwork from Magnaflow's website, a flyer Jim (theexhaustguys) got to me saying the cats are legal, and I even found the reciept from mufflex for when I got the flanges welded on.

Loudness up the the discretion of the inspector = BULLLLLLL****

ar0ck
12-15-2005, 02:17 PM
and BTW I brought and showed my reciepts for the blinkers, pads and rotors, the printout of the 50-state legal paperwork from Magnaflow's website, a flyer Jim (theexhaustguys) got to me saying the cats are legal, and I even found the reciept from mufflex for when I got the flanges welded on.

Loudness up the the discretion of the inspector = BULLLLLLL****

Keep fighting it!

Is it possible to just take it to a small time inspection station, like local gas stations? Its not like your really failing for anything.

Savage_Messiah
12-15-2005, 02:19 PM
For one I don't really wanna pay $75 when all im failing for is the exhaust

unless uh... someone knows somewhere where the discretion of the inspector is lenient and I wouldnt have to pay so much... http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/images/smilies/secret.gif

JL8Jeff
12-15-2005, 02:27 PM
He failed you because it sounds like :typeR: :rice:

:laugh:

Savage_Messiah
12-15-2005, 02:51 PM
Talk to me in another 10 years, maybe your Camaro will be done by then

NJSPEEDER
12-15-2005, 03:02 PM
Loudness up the the discretion of the inspector = BULLLLLLL****

volume must be tested based on an outdoor setting under light loud at a constant rpm. the tester can not personally decide what is or isn't too loud since the national/state standard is written down at a specific db rating. i believe it is 90or 95 db to be exact. either one is much louder than your car can be at any rpm.

foff667
12-15-2005, 03:15 PM
Talk to me in another 10 years, maybe your Camaro will be done by then

which one? The white lt1 car is on jack stands i beleive still & then theres the JL8 car lol

Savage_Messiah
12-15-2005, 03:16 PM
That is the impression that I was under as well, but the DMV and a private station I called both told me that for inspection it is up to the inspector.

If anyone knows where I can get an OFFICIAL decible reading then that would work, if I go in ther ewith official paperwork saying it's within the legal limit then they can't argue with that. That would be good to keep in the car too in case a cop decides to question it

nj85z28
12-15-2005, 03:45 PM
**** the DMV, i never, ever had a car no matter how new, that passed the first time, including my 2000 Z71 and the GTP

Brando56894
12-15-2005, 04:14 PM
thats just plain ********! fight the power! :lol:

ar0ck
12-15-2005, 04:19 PM
Kasey your local Police Department is supposed to carry at least one Decibal tester. Im sure if you called them up and talked to them maybe they can do you some good, with an official print out as well.

Savage_Messiah
12-15-2005, 04:41 PM
I mihgt do that... good call....

jims69camaro
12-15-2005, 08:12 PM
fight this. "up to the discretion of the inspector" is ********.

Tru2Chevy
12-15-2005, 08:55 PM
Why does the man always have to get after the little guys. Just doesn't seem right....

- Justin

misterjuice
12-15-2005, 08:57 PM
bwahahahhahahaha cuz Kasey's black. and little....

Tru2Chevy
12-15-2005, 08:59 PM
:nod:

- Justin

jims69camaro
12-15-2005, 09:00 PM
http://www.epa.gov/region02/air/sip/13_20-Sub32.pdf

the only mention of a replacement muffler is on page 24, which says it's acceptable if the muffler is made for the vehicle and the company certifies that is has a safe exhaust gas exit.

i have yet to find any mention of sound levels, even in the motor vehicle code (which the cops use to write tickets). i'm tired, i'll look more tomorrow.

JL8Jeff
12-16-2005, 07:48 AM
At this point I would probably get it tested and show some proof of what the decibel level is really at. If you go to a different inspection station then those inspectors might not want to overrule the first inspector so proof would be helpful. Didn't your mom tell you not to put fart pipes on your Camaro!;)

2001orangess
12-16-2005, 08:55 AM
i didn't read all the responses cause they look kinda long, but just buy a sticker

Savage_Messiah
12-16-2005, 12:31 PM
At this point I would probably get it tested and show some proof of what the decibel level is really at. If you go to a different inspection station then those inspectors might not want to overrule the first inspector so proof would be helpful. Didn't your mom tell you not to put fart pipes on your Camaro!;)

I'm trying to find somewhere to get it tested though... and oh yea I forgot if it's not a v8 its not a real car right :rolleyes:

JL8Jeff
12-16-2005, 12:56 PM
I'm trying to find somewhere to get it tested though... and oh yea I forgot if it's not a v8 its not a real car right :rolleyes:

I didn't say that. Even the V8 Camaros shouldn't have dual 3" fartpipes on them.:nono:

turbo96z28
12-16-2005, 08:23 PM
coming from someone that used to do inspections at a private place, if the exhaust is 50 state legal then it's 50 state legal!!! the part about the noise is up to the inspector, but if yoiu have the documentation from the manufacturer of the company then that should be all you need.

just to show you how f'ed up DMV is, when i had my 93 Z28 they failed me for rear brakes. i went back the next day after running around a bit and went through again and passed. no pads, no rotors, same ***** that was on the day before.

i let my girl take my 96 last time it was due. it had all the not good stuff still on it. blacked out tail lights, blacked out blinkers, tinted windows, exhaust that wasn't 50 state legal, CAI that screamed when you got on it, and cheater slicks that weren't even close to D.O.T. approved and they PASSED IT!!!!!!!!! i guess it helps if your girl is hot and wears a skimpy outfit. they stared at her more than they checked the car. they even warned her about the stuff it should have failed for and told her be careful if she gets pulled over in it.

hows that for some serious ********?

Savage_Messiah
12-17-2005, 01:31 AM
My dad thinks they might just be ****ing around with me since I'm young, he's gonna take the car through one of the places (he's saying go to one I haven't been to yet, they haven't seen my car, I'm thinking Ridgewood) and see if they pass it with him taking it in.

Savage_Messiah
12-17-2005, 02:00 AM
Also i stopped by the tenafly police station tonight... one cop was looking thru the books and one was looking on the computer, there is NO decible limit or specific test, it's pretty much a judgement call for the cops too.

With that said, the one looking thru the books told me he used to have an 87 with a vette motor and flowmaster, said it was loud as hell setting off alarms blah blah and he passed inspection with it... said mine being a v6 with magnaflow theres no way that its "too loud" since a V8 with exhaust really isnt "too loud"... said i should just take it to a different place

jims69camaro
12-17-2005, 10:15 AM
Also i stopped by the tenafly police station tonight... one cop was looking thru the books and one was looking on the computer, there is NO decible limit or specific test, it's pretty much a judgement call for the cops too.

i came up empty on the internet, as well. no decibel limit or way to test it. i think your dad is right, they are probably just effing with you because you are young. see if he can get it through, then that'll satisfy that theory.