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BigAls87Z28
11-21-2005, 10:00 PM
To get into the NAIAS mood, put up a picture of your favorite 5th gen concept that you have either drawn yourself, of have seen elsewhere.
Only one rule, NO KRIS HORTON DESIGNS!!

Here is one.

http://www.indycamaro.com/McBride.jpg

NJSPEEDER
11-21-2005, 10:06 PM
nice one. a little less roll in teh frotn of the hood and i think it would be perfect.

ar0ck
11-21-2005, 10:06 PM
IF the real thing is really close, that will be my first car even if I have to sign my life away.

V
11-22-2005, 01:16 AM
interesting how that concept design sorta looks like the challenger concept in the other thread...

BigAls87Z28
11-22-2005, 01:30 AM
uh yeah...NOT AT ALL.

jims69camaro
11-22-2005, 01:56 AM
http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/z28.jpg

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/x23.jpg

camaro2you
11-22-2005, 05:19 AM
i dont think i like the look of the double grill on the vert.

Teds89IROC
11-22-2005, 05:39 AM
I agree with camaro2you, but the coupe and the one that Al posted I'm diggin'!

~Ted

jims69camaro
11-22-2005, 05:46 AM
I agree with camaro2you, but the coupe and the one that Al posted I'm diggin'!

~Ted

when i originally looked at them, i thought they were the same car. now, seeing that they have subtle differences, i would change the second one only slightly. i love the chin spoiler. that and an opening about midway up the fascia would be enough induction to keep things cool and keep the motor happy.

Koll
11-22-2005, 09:30 AM
I like this concept.....................

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/chevrolet-camaro/images/chevrolet-camaro-1987c.jpg

or

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/chevrolet-camaro/images/chevrolet-camaro-1967c.jpg

ar0ck
11-22-2005, 10:03 AM
THE Best F-Body Concept! :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/FistFullOfDinero/IrocZx3.jpg

nj85z28
11-22-2005, 03:57 PM
niice

NJSPEEDER
11-22-2005, 08:09 PM
ugly wheels, off the shelf headlight covers and a molded in F40 wing. i will just have to put the :ghey: stamp on that one
i prefer the white 88 camaro coupe they did as an engineering excercise. it was all dolled up in 91-92 ground effects and 17inch wheels with a LT5 engine, ZF 6speed trans, and a Dana44 rear with 3.54 gears(thridgen firehawk rear)

enRo
11-22-2005, 08:30 PM
http://www.arkansascamaro.com/2007CamaroNew6.jpg
http://www.arkansascamaro.com/2007CamaroNew4.jpg
http://www.arkansascamaro.com/2007CamaroNew1.jpg

jims69camaro
11-22-2005, 10:03 PM
he said no kris horton...

jola
11-22-2005, 10:59 PM
the first one looks good. the second one does too. i just don't care anymore.

BigAls87Z28
11-23-2005, 01:08 AM
I ****ing knew it...
NO KRIS HORTON DESIGN!!! It is banned from the Camaro world.

Brando56894
11-23-2005, 01:42 AM
:lol: i think i like the one jim posted the best...

jims69camaro
11-23-2005, 07:50 AM
:lol: i think i like the one jim posted the best...

there was a design contest over at GMI (http://www.gminsidenews.com/) - lots of entries, and i kinda like the retro of atomicshark's cars best. check them out here (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=52).

p.s. of course, kris horton's designs (http://www.carsbykris.com/news/) predate all of the ones on GMI (http://www.gminsidenews.com/), and the newer ones are even better than his original designs. it's just that they've been beaten to death, even worse than a dead horse. and every coupla months, some newbie gets ahold of them, screaming "the NEW camaro" to the top of his lungs. i think that's what irks Al the most. :D

BigAls87Z28
11-23-2005, 10:22 AM
Jim's got it...I cant stand it. Hell, even Kris himself can no longer stand it. There is a huge post in CZ28.com that says if you are gunna post a "new" design, check there first. Good chance that allt he designs out there has ran through CZ28 at one time.

Tru2Chevy
11-23-2005, 11:03 AM
I really like the look of the second pic Jim posted. I actually posted that a few months ago I think (too lazy to look it up). It's a 'chopped Alfa, but still really nice looking.

- Justin

camaro2you
11-23-2005, 12:55 PM
wounder what the tags gonna range on them if there ever screaming out of the plants again.

BigAls87Z28
11-23-2005, 09:28 PM
look for it to be about the price of an equivilant Mustang.

Brando56894
11-23-2005, 09:42 PM
I really like the look of the second pic Jim posted.

same here...

and Al do you mean a regular mustang? GT? Cobra? me and my dad were talkin about the prices for them today, he was sayin he saw a 2005 or 2006 GT convertible for 39 grand! :shock: i asked him what he saw the price of the new cobras were and said they were around 50 grand! now if i had 50 grand ill be damned if im buying a mustang!

BigAls87Z28
11-24-2005, 08:37 AM
Yes, it will be priced along with the Mustang MSRP.
What you see before you is called "Mark Up".
There is no new Cobra out, not for another year, and it wont be called Cobra, just Shelby GT500.
BUT, a Camaro will be priced along side the Mustang, give or take a grand or so, but will probably offer more performance.

jims69camaro
11-24-2005, 09:20 AM
pricing them along the lines of the mustang would only be good marketing strategy on the part of GM. of course, no one (not even me) is claiming that GM has any common sense when it comes to marketing. why pull the plug on the camaro/firebird to begin with? to give the marquee a rest for a coupla years? yeah, that really goes over well ala the impala and bonneville...

BigAls87Z28
11-24-2005, 11:38 AM
They killed the Camaro/Firebird because of a shrinking market that was buying trucks, and not sports cars, and deffinatly not low slung, low visiblity, high hp, high insurance rated, sports cars.
Perhaps if GM invested in a Crystal Ball company they would have had known that the market would still be ripe for teh picking, but the cash thoes SUV's pulled in blinded them.
Remind yourself that a lot of the players of the Pro-SUV squad are now gone or no longer in control.

Savage_Messiah
11-24-2005, 05:04 PM
a Camaro will be priced along side the Mustang, give or take a grand or so, but will probably offer more performance.

...like it was??

and also it's nto just the trucks that killed the market, I have to admit the LS1 Camaro front end ain't the hottest

BigAls87Z28
11-24-2005, 06:04 PM
well style yes, but the 4th gen went underfunded and had only a mild face lift in its 10 years.
Also, the 4th gens ergonomics suck, especialy for a little teeny girl that wants a sports car, something the Mustang excells in.

jims69camaro
11-24-2005, 08:25 PM
the 4th gens ergonomics suck, especialy for a little teeny girl that wants a sports car, something the Mustang excells in.

now, that i'll buy... the suv market is still out there. they are just a little smaller and they resemble the station wagons of old... :lol: :kneeslap: :lol:

Savage_Messiah
11-24-2005, 08:26 PM
the ergonomics work for me :shrug:

This 5th gen better kick ass and wipe the floor from everything else... I hear that there's a Skyline coming this way soon, that would be a nice target for GM for starters

BigAls87Z28
11-25-2005, 12:26 AM
Skyline would most likely cost way above a Camaro. A loaded 350Z is over 30k, so I can imagine that one of Skyline nature, if its a Nissan (could be an Infinity) I expect it to be priced near the Vette.

Savage_Messiah
11-25-2005, 03:00 AM
so how much ass would it kick if the camaro could kick its ass with a lwoer price tag??

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

slasherbarb
11-25-2005, 02:03 PM
Skyline would most likely cost way above a Camaro. A loaded 350Z is over 30k, so I can imagine that one of Skyline nature, if its a Nissan (could be an Infinity) I expect it to be priced near the Vette.being a huge fan of the Skyline series, im pissed they are dropping both the Nissan and Skyline names from it... from what i hear, it is definately coming under the Infinity name, and will more than likely be called the "GTR"...and it basically looks like a 350Z on roids, and it is gonna be somewhere between 50-75 grand...better off getting a Vette...give me a 1999 Skyline GTR34 any day

slasherbarb
11-25-2005, 02:14 PM
http://autoblog.com/entry/1234000017064053/

here is an article about it with some pics...like i said before, in the US it will come under the Infinity name

Brando56894
11-25-2005, 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Savage Messiah

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
a Camaro will be priced along side the Mustang, give or take a grand or so, but will probably offer more performance.

...like it was??

and also it's nto just the trucks that killed the market, I have to admit the LS1 Camaro front end ain't the hottest

i was watching dream car garage lastnight on the speed channel and they had 4 old muscle cars on there( 69 Z28, Boss 302, javelin, and a charger) and were beating the crap outta them it was great. the best was that the 69 z28 kicked ass in everything except the old 1320 :D

jims69camaro
11-28-2005, 03:36 PM
i was watching dream car garage lastnight on the speed channel and they had 4 old muscle cars on there( 69 Z28, Boss 302, javelin, and a charger) and were beating the crap outta them it was great. the best was that the 69 z28 kicked ass in everything except the old 1320 :D

the best car was the race-prepped Z/28, but since it's not street legal, they couldn't count it as the winner.

Brando56894
11-28-2005, 03:56 PM
i thought that was the T/A charger that they didnt count.... they only used it as a control for the test or somthin like that...

BigAls87Z28
11-28-2005, 07:29 PM
Thoes arent really "muscle cars" per say, they are Pony cars.

enRo
11-28-2005, 08:34 PM
I dunno what anyone else thinks of that new "GT-R", but I think I just crapped my pants. I prefer the look of a 350z over a G35 even tho Im a fan of both. Seeing the new "Skyline" with that look just amazes me, its a little too bubbly, but that is one kick ass looking car.

slasherbarb
11-28-2005, 10:26 PM
I dunno what anyone else thinks of that new "GT-R", but I think I just crapped my pants. I prefer the look of a 350z over a G35 even tho Im a fan of both. Seeing the new "Skyline" with that look just amazes me, its a little too bubbly, but that is one kick ass looking car.i dont think it looks too bad...i just think they should have called it a "Nissan Skyline"...i mean, they kept the "Evo" name, and most of the Imports here in the US have the same name as they do overseas...but i just love the way a 1999 GT-R34 looks...thats is probably why i enjoyed the first scene in 2 Fast 2 Furious(and then fell asleep for the rest of it)

BigAls87Z28
11-28-2005, 11:23 PM
Mmm, yes, the Skyline is one of the only import cars that I really like. It looks very American, even with wings and chin spoilers and NAWZ decals. It looks like it was styled after American muscle cars with is boxy design, long hood, short deck body.
The G35/350Z car looks nice, but not nearly as nice as the GT-R34's.