test drove an AV6

[Pat]

i went to princeton honda yesterday and they actually let me test drive an accord ex coupe v6 6 speed, with every option minus nav. i have to say i was really impressed. nice car, fully loaded, solid shifter, perfect clutch, good amount of power (although not nearly as much as the LS1). the only thing i didn't like about it was the visibility - but that could have had something to do with the window sticker blocking my passenger side view. haha seriously though it seemed like i couldn't see very well directly in front of the car, and the A pillars looked a little too big.

but other than that, it's looking like i'll be rolling an accord in may. unless you can suggest another car that's less than 30k, coupe, at least 220 hp, manual tranny, and a nice interior. i really can't think of anything else that i would want to drive, except maybe a g35c, but i don't have 35 grand to drop on it (not to mention the astronomical insurance - one of my friends at school has one and pays ~5 grand a year, and she's a girl with a clean record)

[12secondv6]

SRT4

[GP99GT]

what about a nissan maxima? theyre pretty damn nice.

[Squirrel]

SRT4
werd

[GP99GT]

coupe,

is the srt-4 a coupe

[nj85z28]

nope. no neon coupes for a long time now i think

[GP99GT]

nope. no neon coupes for a long time now i think

i know, it wasnt a serious question lol

[Pat]

SRT4

the srt-4 is a decent car, but i'm going to be a professional, i can't drive around a neon. the accord has similar power and is MUCH nicer.

i wouldn't mind a maxima, but i don't like the look of the new ones and they're all sedans.

[qwikz28]

accords do awesome burnouts. my friend has one in auto and i always take it out for joyrides and beat on it. not much fun though, but if you are looking for that kinda car it really is the best out there.

[Frosty]

How can everyone overlook the GTO?

[Squirrel]

:drool:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2004/Pontiac/100369148/028339-E.jpg

[NJSPEEDER]

:drool:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2004/Pontiac/100369148/028339-E.jpg

:werd: amen

[Tsar]

srt4 = nice interior??? bwahahaha

[misterjuice]

I'm a professional....and I drive neons.........the ladies love the neons.

[BigAls87Z28]

G6 GTP. Comes with a 6spd and a host of options that are right in line with the Accord 6. Same hp, more torque, and it has VVT as well. Stabilitrac is standard is as ABS. Lots of room front and rear.
Or look for a used 04 or 05 GTO 6spd.

[Frosty]

G6 GTP. Comes with a 6spd and a host of options that are right in line with the Accord 6. Same hp, more torque, and it has VVT as well. Stabilitrac is standard is as ABS. Lots of room front and rear.
Or look for a used 04 or 05 GTO 6spd.


Yeah that's another good recommendation. I forgot about the G6.

[maroman88]

i too was guna suggest GTO, i think it has more then the 220hp you were looking for and cost should be the same with the GM incentives starting back up soon, plus u cant beat that blue with the blue leather and guages, i need a tissue:)

[bitchincamaro]

my aunt has a 05 accord. it pretty nice has a little pep. earlier this year she had an 05 altima. i like the altima way better. it handled and felt alot faster then the accord. she got rearended this summer and totaled the altima. the accord and the altima were both 6 cyl's.

[Frosty]

i think it has more then the 220hp you were looking


He wants AT LEAST 220hp. I think the GTO really fits the bill, or the G6 GXP like Al said.

[12secondv6]

I'm a professional....and I drive neons.........the ladies love the neons.
Me too! :cool:

[Ian]

another vote for the GTO or G6 GTP. You can get the G6 coupe with the supercharged V6 and a 6 speed manual transmission :drool:

[78camaro]

why not an altima se R....if im not mistaking its just under 30k comes with a 6spd v6 260hp nice looking car....

[Frosty]

why not an altima se R....if im not mistaking its just under 30k comes with a 6spd v6 260hp nice looking car....


That's a really sharp car too.

[Pat]

How can everyone overlook the GTO?

haha are you kidding me? the financing on those things is $500+

I'm a professional....and I drive neons.........the ladies love the neons.

whatever you have to tell yourself so you can sleep at night... :lol:

G6 GTP. Comes with a 6spd and a host of options that are right in line with the Accord 6. Same hp, more torque, and it has VVT as well. Stabilitrac is standard is as ABS. Lots of room front and rear.
Or look for a used 04 or 05 GTO 6spd.

you can preach to everybody as much as you want about how gm quality is awesome now but trust me accord > g6. i'm not gonna drive the new grand am. of all the g6's i've seen, they look ok when they're brand new but after even just a year they all look like they're falling apart. this seems to be gm's quality problem. they use materials that looks great when they're new, but look like they're 10 years old after 2 years of use. the same goes for ford, trust me my parents have owned fords forever.

my aunt has a 05 accord. it pretty nice has a little pep. earlier this year she had an 05 altima. i like the altima way better. it handled and felt alot faster then the accord. she got rearended this summer and totaled the altima. the accord and the altima were both 6 cyl's.

the altima is not a coupe

another vote for the GTO or G6 GTP. You can get the G6 coupe with the supercharged V6 and a 6 speed manual transmission

like i said before the gto is out because it is way too pricey. the g6 has a NA 3.9 v6 that makes 240 hp

why not an altima se R....if im not mistaking its just under 30k comes with a 6spd v6 260hp nice looking car....

sedan...

keep in mind guys, this dealership sells at just over invoice, which for the accord is just over 25 grand, so i could probably pick one up for around 26. i'll probably go out and test drive a g6 for ****s and giggles, and maybe a mazdaspeed 6 (i know it's a sedan but if they'll let me drive it i might as well). i've definitely considered a gto but even if i can get one for 30k that's still a lot more than i'd be paying for an accord. i've also considered a used 3 series, but i don't think i'd ever buy a bmw out of warranty...

[trashman01]

why not a subie legacy GT? they are really nice cars

[Pat]

why not a subie legacy GT? they are really nice cars

it is nice, but it's a sedan. if i end up including sedans, i'll look at it, thanks.

[BigAls87Z28]

Im glad you got to check out all the G6's. Having one of these ****y GM cars, coming on 2 years now, nothing has fallen apart, off, or have squeeked. Interior is still in perfect shape, despite abuse. I have no reason to belive that the G6 would fair any worse. While in your mind, the Accord is better then the G6, it clearly comes down to a test drive. The new Accord, while very nice, its interior is well layed out, and hides the cheap plastics well. Thats about the only advantage the Accord has over the G6. Due to society, Honda is now considerd higher class then a Pontiac, while they will both get the job done for you.
But hey, you know they all fall apart, why should I argue with you.

[Pat]

Im glad you got to check out all the G6's. Having one of these ****y GM cars, coming on 2 years now, nothing has fallen apart, off, or have squeeked. Interior is still in perfect shape, despite abuse. I have no reason to belive that the G6 would fair any worse. While in your mind, the Accord is better then the G6, it clearly comes down to a test drive. The new Accord, while very nice, its interior is well layed out, and hides the cheap plastics well. Thats about the only advantage the Accord has over the G6. Due to society, Honda is now considerd higher class then a Pontiac, while they will both get the job done for you.
But hey, you know they all fall apart, why should I argue with you.

haha al seriously that's not what i meant. i know i know gm quality has gone up a lot. i'm not trying to argue this with you. but you have to admit, after reading some of your posts from the past year you tend to exaggerate how great gm is that it's hard to take some of your opinions seriously. for example, the aveo is "up class" or something like that. give me a break.

i mean, honestly if you told me 3 years ago i'd be defending a honda i'd probably punch you in the face. maybe i'm getting old, but honestly gm (minus caddillac) doesn't make a car that i'd actually want to drive short of a corvette or gto, which are both out of my price range. yes they have been improving in recent years and i hope someday they make a car that i can afford and actually want to drive. but do you honestly think that the grand am replacement is up to par with an accord?

by the way, i ditched brand loyalty when gm stopped making f bodies (yea i know there's another one coming - but it tought me one thing, that gm, or any other car manufacturer for that matter, doesn't give a **** about me). so now i'll drive whatever i want that i can afford. if i could afford a g35, i'd get one hands down. if i could afford a c6, i'd DEFINITELY get one. but if it will help you sleep tonight, i'll go out and test drive a g6 (if they let me) sometime next week and report back.

[Frosty]

You'll be able to get a '05 GTO for under 30K especially after the '06's come rolling out more.

You did say UNDER 30K so don't bite my head off at the suggestion ;)

Plus, I've seen preowned 05's with less than 15K on the clock going for 24-26K.

[BigAls87Z28]

Dont do it for me, do it for youself. My opinions are skewd, perhaps, but its not without merrit. Drive the car for yourself and tell me. The Grand Am replacement just shows that you already put the G6 behind the 8 ball. You dont give it a clean slate, you look at the car as of the "Grand Am". There was a guy at the trucks that traded in his Z28 for a G6 GTP sedan, and loved it. I belive he said he was looking at the Accord V6 sedan, but he liked the G6 better. Forget the brand loyalty ****, and just drive the car. Whats the point of spending more money on a Honda badge over a Pontiac, if the Pontiac does the job the same, if not better? Because the Honda badge has more pizzaz? What is it? The sexy sound of VTEC? The only thing that you did when you saw G6 is that it was a POS Grand Am, never even setting food inside one, much less driving it. THAT is what disturbs me more then anything in your post.
Drive the GTP coupe with 6spd, and tell me how exactly why you would spend the extra cash on an Accord, outside of the "image" of owning one.

[Ian]

Both Tony and Al bing up very valid points.

05 GTO's can be had for cheap, pick up a pre-owned one for cheap and still have a ton of warantee left :wink:

The G6 is nothing like the grand am. Its a completely different car. Yes it took the grand am's place, but it a much more refined ride than the grand am.

[Pat]

What is it? The sexy sound of VTEC?

to tell you the truth i could barely hear any noise - engine or road - when i drove it

[Pat]

You'll be able to get a '05 GTO for under 30K especially after the '06's come rolling out more.

You did say UNDER 30K so don't bite my head off at the suggestion ;)

Plus, I've seen preowned 05's with less than 15K on the clock going for 24-26K.

well then i will have to look at them. i'll also check out used accords as well. the only thing i don't like about buying used is that you kind of have to just jump on what's available. whereas if you buy new chances are you can get exactly what you want. i'm picky :)

[qwikz28]

first off- hondas are loud

second- as well as they drive, the news ones have had some reliablilty issues.

thirdly- never rule out a car just cause you think you wont like it. if you told me a month or two ago i would be driving a saturn and loving every minute of it i would slap you. test drive the G6, what do you have to lose? i personally dont like the styling. i know you ruled out 4 doors but i would check out the saab 9-3. saabs are some very well built cars and you wouldnt believe how much fun they are to drive.

i'm a professional as well and even though i am only 19 i have had to drive to potential clients and meet up with execs for lunch. i did all that in my old isuzu. it turns out the hallmark exec had a cammed 02 z06 that he offered to let me take for a spin next time i see him and told me to bring my camaro next time. i wouldnt be too worried about your car reflecting your business cause thats not quite what people look at when they see you.

[Pat]

first off- hondas are loud

second- as well as they drive, the news ones have had some reliablilty issues.

thirdly- never rule out a car just cause you think you wont like it. if you told me a month or two ago i would be driving a saturn and loving every minute of it i would slap you. test drive the G6, what do you have to lose? i personally dont like the styling. i know you ruled out 4 doors but i would check out the saab 9-3. saabs are some very well built cars and you wouldnt believe how much fun they are to drive.

i'm a professional as well and even though i am only 19 i have had to drive to potential clients and meet up with execs for lunch. i did all that in my old isuzu. it turns out the hallmark exec had a cammed 02 z06 that he offered to let me take for a spin next time i see him and told me to bring my camaro next time. i wouldnt be too worried about your car reflecting your business cause thats not quite what people look at when they see you.

the only big honda reliability issues i've heard of recently (in the last 5 years) are with the automatic transmissions. you know of any specific one's i should look out for?

as far as the g6, i did have a friend who was looking at new cars recently, who's opinion i somewhat trust, tell me that he looked at g6's and was dissappointed. but you guys convinced me, i will go investigate for myself (hopefully this week). however, i priced one out and with all the options to put it on par with the accord it comes out at either just under 27 or 28 grand.

[qwikz28]

the only big honda reliability issues i've heard of recently (in the last 5 years) are with the automatic transmissions. you know of any specific one's i should look out for?

as far as the g6, i did have a friend who was looking at new cars recently, who's opinion i somewhat trust, tell me that he looked at g6's and was dissappointed. but you guys convinced me, i will go investigate for myself (hopefully this week). however, i priced one out and with all the options to put it on par with the accord it comes out at either just under 27 or 28 grand.
yeah thats what it was, the tranny was recalled recently though. also i heard some electrical woes with that new dash, but that was mainly with the first year model and i wouldnt worry about that. the tranny was the main thing and i wasnt thinking and forgot that you were getting the manual so i guess my statement really didnt apply to you.