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BigAls87Z28
12-27-2005, 12:50 PM
NJSA Section #OffensePoints
New Jersey Turnpike, Garden State Parkway and Atlantic City Expressway
27:23-29 Moving against traffic 2
27:23-29Improper passing 4
27:23-29Unlawful use of median strip 2
All roads and highways
39:3-20Operating constructor vehicle in excess of 45 mph 3
39:4-14.3 Operating motorized bicycle on a restricted highway2
39:4-14.3d More than one person on a motorized bicycle 2
39:4-35 Failure to yield to pedestrian in crosswalk 2
39:4-36Failure to yield to pedestrian in crosswalk; passing a vehicle yielding to pedestrian in crosswalk 2
39:4-41Driving through safety zone 2
39:4-52 Racing on highway 5
39:4-55Improper action or omission on grades and curves 2
39:4-57Failure to observe direction of officer 2
39:4-66Failure to stop vehicle before crossing sidewalk 2
39:4-66.1Failure to yield to pedestrians or vehicles while entering or leaving highway 2
39:4-66.2Driving on public or private property to avoid a traffic sign or signal 2
39:4-71Operating a motor vehicle on a sidewalk 2
39:4-80 Failure to obey direction of officer 2
39:4-81Failure to observe traffic signals 2
39:4-82Failure to keep right 2
39:4-82.1Improper operating of vehicle on divided highway or divider 2
39:4-83Failure to keep right at intersection 2
39:4-84 Failure to pass to right of vehicle proceeding in opposite direction 5
39:4-85 Improper passing on right or off roadway 4
39:4-85.1Wrong way on a one-way street 2
39:4-86Improper passing in no passing zone 4
39:4-87Failure to yield to overtaking vehicle 2
39:4-88Failure to observe traffic lanes
39:4-89Tailgating 5
39:4-90Failure to yield at intersection 2
39:4-90.1Failure to use proper entrances to limited access highways 2
39:4-91-92Failure to yield to emergency vehicles 2
39:4-96Reckless driving539:4-97Careless driving 2
39:4-97aDestruction of agricultural or recreational property 2
39:4-97.1Slow speed blocking traffic 2
39:4-97.2Driving in an unsafe manner (points only assessed for the third or subsequent violation(s) within a five-year period.) 4
39:4-98 and Exceeding maximum speed 1-14 mph over limit 2
39:4-99Exceeding maximum speed 15-29 mph over limit 4
Exceeding maximum speed 30 mph or more over limit 5
39:4-105 Failure to stop for traffic light 2
39:4-115Improper turn at traffic light 3
39:4-119Failure to stop at flashing red signal 2
39:4-122Failure to stop for police whistle 2
39:4-123Improper right or left turn 3
39:4-124Improper turn from approved turning course 3
39:4-125Improper U-turn339:4-126Failure to give proper signal 2
39:4-127Improper backing or turning in street 2
39:4-127.1Improper crossing of railroad grade crossing 2
39:4-127.2Improper crossing of bridge 2
39:4-128Improper crossing of railroad grade crossing by certain vehicles 2
39:4-128.1Improper passing of school bus 5
39:4-128.4Improper passing of a frozen dessert truck 4
39:4-129 Leaving the scene of an accident
No personal injury 2
Personal injury 8
39:4-144Failure to observe stop or yield signs 2
39:5C-1 Racing on highway 5
39:5D-4Moving violation out-of-state 2

Found this when I paid my ticket.

79CamaroDiva
12-27-2005, 12:54 PM
well then. with so many ways to f* up, how the hell do you drive the right way? :p

JL8Jeff
12-27-2005, 01:00 PM
39:4-36Failure to yield to pedestrian in crosswalk; passing a vehicle yielding to pedestrian in crosswalk 2

I didn't know they had pedestrian crosswalks on the turnpike! I don't think I would want to use them if they did.

jimmyboy8301
12-27-2005, 01:59 PM
if you guys want i have the whole Title 39 book (NJ Motor Vehicle Code) and the whole 2C book (NJ Criminal Code).

camaroracer1992
12-27-2005, 02:07 PM
NJ is gay... PA lets us do what we want :)

12secondv6
12-27-2005, 02:07 PM
Is it bad.... that I broke al of them???? ;)

Damn ice cream trucks!

Tsar
12-27-2005, 02:11 PM
tailgating is 5 points? holy ****!!! i was pulled over for that but they let me go with a warning!!!

WayFast84
12-27-2005, 02:15 PM
39:4-129 Leaving the scene of an accident
No personal injury 2
Personal injury 8

wait so If you leave an accident and your not hurt its 2 but if you are hurt its 8???? shouldnt it be the other way around?

Tsar
12-27-2005, 02:19 PM
injury to others perhaps

Tru2Chevy
12-27-2005, 02:19 PM
39:4-129 Leaving the scene of an accident
No personal injury 2
Personal injury 8

wait so If you leave an accident and your not hurt its 2 but if you are hurt its 8???? shouldnt it be the other way around?

It's leaving the scene of an accident, not just being involved in one. Basically if you hit someone's car , don't hurt them, and then leave, it's an automatic 2 points. If they were hurt when you hit them, then it's 8 points.

- Justin

WayFast84
12-27-2005, 02:30 PM
oo but it says "personal"

79CamaroDiva
12-27-2005, 02:43 PM
personal meaning to a person. not to a vehicle.

formulaMARK
12-27-2005, 03:13 PM
5pt violations suckkkk. I got 3 of them all at once. they suck

chevyt454
12-27-2005, 04:04 PM
got my licence in '89. Went into the Army until '93. My driving record was spotless. Moved back to Jersey - 14 points.:drive:

Tsar
12-27-2005, 04:17 PM
i still got zero points...

Savage_Messiah
12-27-2005, 04:36 PM
I had four... down to 0 now :w00t:

Ian
12-27-2005, 05:36 PM
I dont want to talk about my driving record :?

formulaMARK
12-27-2005, 05:36 PM
somehow i still have 0

Tru2Chevy
12-27-2005, 06:00 PM
I've been pulled over 7 or 8 times, never got any points. :knocks on wood:

- Justin

jims69camaro
12-27-2005, 06:12 PM
so you got a ticket for failure to yield or stop? how much was it? that info included on the website; how about a link?

this one gets me: 39:5D-4 Moving violation out-of-state 2 - if you get a moving violation ticket out of state, they automatically assess 2 points.

"i've been to hell. i spell it DMV
anyone that's been there knows precisely what i mean
stood there and i've waited and choked back the urge to scream
if i had my druthers, i'd **** a chimpanzee
call it pointless" -- primus

Brando56894
12-27-2005, 06:16 PM
ill prolly have around 2-4 by the end of this month, depending on whether or not they throw the case of me backing into sum1s car at 7-11 then leaving cuz i didnt know i hit it (D'OH!) also on the way home on the GSP i got 2 more tickets. doing 85 in a 65 zone and passing on the right when i was in the left lane. how else am i supposed to pass someone? on the shoulder? :lol:

Tru2Chevy
12-27-2005, 06:19 PM
passing on the right when i was in the left lane. how else am i supposed to pass someone? on the shoulder? :lol:

How did they manage that one? You were in the left lane, and they gave you a ticket for passing on the right?

- Justin

Brando56894
12-27-2005, 06:45 PM
How did they manage that one? You were in the left lane, and they gave you a ticket for passing on the right?

- Justin

exactly. when i got it i was like wtf? how did this happen? i didnt want to say anything to him cuz he was like i could of gotten you with 4 tickets but i only gave you 2. i have no idea what the two others could of been.

****** ASCII diagram on me on the GSP (read from bottom up):

|
[me back in the left lane]
| [me after passing the car infront of me]

[car infront of me] | [empty right lane]

[my car] |
[******* cop w/ bright lights on]
|

i dont see anything illegal about that at all, i signalled and everything. not like i can fight it, cuz then i would have to plead not guilty to the speeding ticket and that might get me into more **** idk....

jims69camaro
12-27-2005, 06:54 PM
you got back into the left lane after passing? why would you do that? you do know the law in NJ is keep right, pass left... right? i would've been in the right lane to begin with, but say i was behind someone in the left lane and then passed themon the right... i would've then stayed in the right lane, assuming it was clear (unless i had to pass someone in the right lane) eventually, i would've ended up in the right lane. i don't think he would've written that one if you had either stayed in the right lane or not been going 85 in a 65. once they get you on the shoulder of the road, it's all over (meaning they can write to their heart's content).

BigAls87Z28
12-27-2005, 07:51 PM
Yeah, you cannot pass on the right, only to the left.

No, my ticket was 79 in a 65 on the parkway, heading to thoes stupid north meets. I was just going with traffic since I was pretty tired from work, and didnt realize my speed, or my radar detector going off like a bat out of hell untill I saw brake lights in front of me. I was the last person in the group, so I got nailed.
I told him flat out I didnt realize I was going that fast, just keeping up with traffic (was in the right lane). As soon as I saw him turnon his headlights off the median, I just pulled over and waited. I thought maybe he would get someone else, but he just pulled behind me. Oh well, thats 2pts.

Brando56894
12-27-2005, 09:31 PM
new jersey sucks...... such stupid laws.... the thing is im used to bein in the left lane, it was just instinct to me.... looks like i gotta change that now....

V
12-27-2005, 11:09 PM
ill prolly have around 2-4 by the end of this month, depending on whether or not they throw the case of me backing into sum1s car at 7-11 then leaving cuz i didnt know i hit it (D'OH!)...


if they bring it up, fight it. from everything i learned about these motor vehicle laws, they apply ONLY to actions taken place ON PUBLIC roadways or highways. techically a 7-11 parking lot is private property, i heard they may be able to fine you but legally they can not assess points against you for it.


as for me and points, right now I have 0 on my driving recond and just 2 on my insurance record. :knock on wood: I got a speeding ticket in jan 2004 in virginia(i was watching 2fast2furious instead of looking for cops, lol). Every year you go without a moving violation, 2 points are removed from your license. Motor vehicle points stay with your insurance for 3 years from the date you were convicted or paid the fine, not the date the violation occurred. I paid it in Feb 2004, so in feb 2005 i had 0 points again, but with my insurance i had 4 then(2 points careless in sep 2001). 2 insurance points got erased in sep 2004, so two left, now i gotta wait till feb 2007 when those last 2 will dissapear.

Brando56894
12-28-2005, 01:10 AM
if they bring it up, fight it. from everything i learned about these motor vehicle laws, they apply ONLY to actions taken place ON PUBLIC roadways or highways. techically a 7-11 parking lot is private property, i heard they may be able to fine you but legally they can not assess points against you for it.

thats why my parents think they pretty much kicked me outta court and reschedualed my date, which ofcourse, is during christmas break, 6 days BEFORE i go back to school :mad: it pissed me off my appearance was supposed to be 1:30 i never got heard till 4:30! and i was the last one! the old bastard judge was nice to everyone, theifs, drug dealers, etc.. this one guy has $2k in fines and was in jail there for 2 weeks, the judge was perfectly nice to him. i go up there an hour later and the judge is saying all this stuff to me then he was like this happened on hamburg turnpike right? (when actually i was never on hamburg tpk. i was on ratzer road.) and i was like no your honor actually i was never on hamburg tpk. then he flipped out on me! he said to the public defender "i think this kid is trying to play games with me" after that it just got worse and he turned into an old bastard and pretty much kicked me out, after i sat there for ****en 4 hours! it made me soooo mad...

jims69camaro
12-28-2005, 08:15 PM
that was your problem. you had a public defender.

er, why a public defender in traffic court? the hit and run thing? how did you qualify for a PD, anyway?

Brando56894
12-28-2005, 09:25 PM
he wasnt specifically for me, idk if he was a PD or what he was, he was jusy there to help everyone free of charge

trashman01
12-28-2005, 09:46 PM
cops in my town kno my name by heart, they just tell me not to do it again(ran open headers one night cuz i ripped my cat off pulling outta a driveway)

Savage_Messiah
12-29-2005, 02:26 PM
he wasnt specifically for me, idk if he was a PD or what he was, he was jusy there to help everyone free of charge

hahaha, do you mean the guy everyone lined up and talked to before hand? and he offered them plea bargains (reduced charges)? That's the prosecutor ;)

jims69camaro
12-29-2005, 02:28 PM
hahaha, do you mean the guy everyone lined up and talked to before hand? and he offered them plea bargains (reduced charges)? That's the prosecutor ;)

that's what i was thinking, but i didn't want to contradict...

IROCZman15
12-29-2005, 10:31 PM
10 points here...

Brando56894
12-31-2005, 12:31 AM
hahaha, do you mean the guy everyone lined up and talked to before hand? and he offered them plea bargains (reduced charges)? That's the prosecutor ;)

idk prolly....