Warning about Grandmastercow...

[foff667]

To anyone considering buying, selling or trading with Eric read this:

Incident #1 involved little g(craig) sold eric a tranny that G had gotten used from a person on another board. Craig eventually realized he had little use for the tranny so sold it to eric with an agreed upon price of $350...they met up & eric said he was short on money & would pay him when he got paid & gave him $100 of the $350 owed. Craig, like most people, took him on his word & handed over the tranny in hopes of getting the remaining $250. Days went by with no $ to be found. Weeks went by with craig contacting eric with excuse after excuse why he hadnt given him the money. In the meantime Eric installs the tranny(mind you he did an auto to manual tranny conversion using Craigs tranny) he finally gets it installed & within a week he realizes theres a problem with the tranny. He decides hes not going to pay craig for the tranny at this point & blames Craig for selling him a bad tranny so now craig is out of a tranny & $250 for trusting someone.

Incident #2 another member on here Chummma apparently lent 2 rims/DR's to eric to use temporarily...Eric preceeds to beat the tires down to the cord. In the meantime C asked eric repeatedly to bring the rims/tires to him up at one of his clubs meets which was ~15 miles away. Eric never brough them. And now Chummma & a good portion of CI isnt very happy with him to say the least.

Incident #3 mine comes last since it involves the first two parties parts :rolleyes: I traded for erics converted 98 a few months back obviously with minimal hopes of it even running/moving when i first got it considering it would be a project car. I went to erics house & looked the car over real quick...didnt look horrible but knew it would need a good amount of work just by looking at it. Eric AAA's it up to my house at which time it has Chumma's rims/tires on it which at the time I didn't know the story nor did I know they were chummma's, eric just said "my friends". Anywayz when eric brought the car he also didnt pack up the muffler with the car...not a big deal I told him I'd come down & pick up the muffler & the auto tranny he still had knowing that craigs old tranny was somehow broken. After looking over the car I noticed the large near footlong crack in the bellhousing of the tranny which I suspect wasnt there when eric put it in the car so I'll assume that when Craig handed it over the tranny didnt have a large crack in it seeing that anyone other then maybe Stevie wonder couldve spotted it in a second of looking at it. I bugged eric about the rims/tires that were origonally on the car knowing I had to give these rims/tires back to someone...thats when eric told me they were chummmas and that he had my rims :shrug:. I told eric "ok np I'll work it out with chummma since I know him" So I pm Ch & find out that eric was supposed to have given these rims/tires back months ago & that Chummma didnt have my rims/tires. Fast foward I IM eric telling him what Chummma had told me & that I would like my Muffler, Tranny, rims/tires...eric tells me he put the muffler on his own vehicle, but i can have the tranny/tires. So I go to pick up the Tranny/tires/rims at a minimum.

Come to find out he had my camaro rims/tires on his car as well. So We take the rims/tires off of his car & I throw the tranny in my trunk. He agrees that once he gets paid he'll get a new muffler for himself & I'll get the muffler that I was supposed to get in the first place. Now here I am another month later & eric tells me he was rearended meaning that muffler is pretty much trashed, I don't know if chummma ever got his rims/tires back that I gave back to eric to handle & Craig is out a tranny & $250.

Bottom line be careful when dealing with him.

[Tsar]

i wonder what his responce will be

[foff667]

"when I get paid"

[WayFast84]

is eric his username?

[formulaMARK]

no its Grandmastercow

[nj85z28]

.....what a douche......

[Savage_Messiah]

scummy, scummy,scummy is all I have to say to that

[LS1Hawk]

Bottom line be careful when dealing with him.

Rather, don't deal with him.

[bitchincamaro]

that story sucks for everyone, i dont know any of these people but everyone got beat. no one should deal with eric?, chuma doesnt have rims and tires, and craigs out $$ and a tranny. everyone loses :(

[Ian]

that story sucks for everyone, i dont know any of these people but everyone got beat. no one should deal with eric?, chuma doesnt have rims and tires, and craigs out $$ and a tranny. everyone loses :(

dont forget that bill is out a muffler.

[foff667]

dont forget that bill is out a muffler.

thankfully cbrrmike offered to give me his stocker off his TA so its not that bad but going back and forth for the past 3 months to get my stuff just was pretty ****** & the way he deals with people is real shady & I told him that.

[Little G]

thanks for posting this bill, i have since written off my $250, so hopefully no one else on this board will fall victim to the shady nature of eric's dealings

g

[camaro2you]

eric owes me 10 bucks for a paint ball gun and a full tube of silicon. im still waiten on that ****. been a month now.

[camaro2you]

To anyone considering buying, selling or trading with Eric read this:

Incident #1 involved little g(craig) sold eric a tranny that G had gotten used from a person on another board. Craig eventually realized he had little use for the tranny so sold it to eric with an agreed upon price of $350...they met up & eric said he was short on money & would pay him when he got paid & gave him $100 of the $350 owed. Craig, like most people, took him on his word & handed over the tranny in hopes of getting the remaining $250. Days went by with no $ to be found. Weeks went by with craig contacting eric with excuse after excuse why he hadnt given him the money. In the meantime Eric installs the tranny(mind you he did an auto to manual tranny conversion using Craigs tranny) he finally gets it installed & within a week he realizes theres a problem with the tranny. He decides hes not going to pay craig for the tranny at this point & blames Craig for selling him a bad tranny so now craig is out of a tranny & $250 for trusting someone.

Incident #2 another member on here Chummma apparently lent 2 rims/DR's to eric to use temporarily...Eric preceeds to beat the tires down to the cord. In the meantime C asked eric repeatedly to bring the rims/tires to him up at one of his clubs meets which was ~15 miles away. Eric never brough them. And now Chummma & a good portion of CI isnt very happy with him to say the least.

Incident #3 mine comes last since it involves the first two parties parts :rolleyes: I traded for erics converted 98 a few months back obviously with minimal hopes of it even running/moving when i first got it considering it would be a project car. I went to erics house & looked the car over real quick...didnt look horrible but knew it would need a good amount of work just by looking at it. Eric AAA's it up to my house at which time it has Chumma's rims/tires on it which at the time I didn't know the story nor did I know they were chummma's, eric just said "my friends". Anywayz when eric brought the car he also didnt pack up the muffler with the car...not a big deal I told him I'd come down & pick up the muffler & the auto tranny he still had knowing that craigs old tranny was somehow broken. After looking over the car I noticed the large near footlong crack in the bellhousing of the tranny which I suspect wasnt there when eric put it in the car so I'll assume that when Craig handed it over the tranny didnt have a large crack in it seeing that anyone other then maybe Stevie wonder couldve spotted it in a second of looking at it. I bugged eric about the rims/tires that were origonally on the car knowing I had to give these rims/tires back to someone...thats when eric told me they were chummmas and that he had my rims :shrug:. I told eric "ok np I'll work it out with chummma since I know him" So I pm Ch & find out that eric was supposed to have given these rims/tires back months ago & that Chummma didnt have my rims/tires. Fast foward I IM eric telling him what Chummma had told me & that I would like my Muffler, Tranny, rims/tires...eric tells me he put the muffler on his own vehicle, but i can have the tranny/tires. So I go to pick up the Tranny/tires/rims at a minimum.

Come to find out he had my camaro rims/tires on his car as well. So We take the rims/tires off of his car & I throw the tranny in my trunk. He agrees that once he gets paid he'll get a new muffler for himself & I'll get the muffler that I was supposed to get in the first place. Now here I am another month later & eric tells me he was rearended meaning that muffler is pretty much trashed, I don't know if chummma ever got his rims/tires back that I gave back to eric to handle & Craig is out a tranny & $250.

Bottom line be careful when dealing with him.

man wtf he didnt get rearended his cars ****en fine. I also helped put that damn muffler on there for him.

[foff667]

man wtf he didnt get rearended his cars ****en fine. I also helped put that damn muffler on there for him.

OMG hes a liar too? oh wait :lol: I know your friends with him & all but you might wanna look for some better friends, or at least more honest ones.

[camaro2you]

OMG hes a liar too? oh wait :lol: I know your friends with him & all but you might wanna look for some better friends, or at least more honest ones.

ya he seems to have a problem with telling the turth and giving people there money.

[Slow 88]

Wow!! What a major dick move! That's ****ed up Eric you better get your **** together dude...

[foff667]

Anywayz i wanted to thank everyone thats contacted me about this & those like JW & mike that have offered me their stock mufflers I really appriciate it.

lata
Bill

[jimmyboy8301]

i have my stock one off my 01SS if you still need one. it's sitting in my garage. i have it if anyone needs it. it's here taking up space.

[Frosty]

That's messed up..

[qwikz28]

he seemed like a nice guy when i met him last january:shrug:

[coldkilla]

yeah i met him a few times during some south meets and he seemed like a cool kid but i could tell he liked to tell stories. i dont see how he could have a viable excuse for his behavior, its pretty cut and dry. he dicked people over for no good reason and it will come back to bite him im sure since we are a small community. im sure maybe its not too late for him to make amends. still waiting to hear what he has to say. maybe this should be moved to the lounge so more people see it.

[foff667]

I had it in the lounge origonally so he could see it so we could see what his response would be...unfortunatly im not an admin & they didnt keep it there :(

[bad64chevelle]

Damn i hate to hear this kinda **** when it happens to good people. I sure hope he can redeem himself somehow or give a good explination.

[qwikz28]

Damn i hate to hear this kinda **** when it happens to good people. I sure hope he can redeem himself somehow or give a good explination.
excuses are like ********, everyones got one

[Tru2Chevy]

I had it in the lounge origonally so he could see it so we could see what his response would be...unfortunatly im not an admin & they didnt keep it there :(

I moved it to the classifieds because it has to do with buying and selling on this board. I also contacted Eric via AIM and sent him a link to this thread asking if he would like to tell his side of the story.

- Justin

[camaroracer1992]

lets take him to a towel/bar soap party hehe if anything you can beat the money out of him haha!! ::edit::


No need for that Joe, comments are welcome, but lets not get carried away. Don't wanna have to lock.... - Justin

[Blackwizard222]

Thats shady, you would think that someone off a close knit board like this wouldnt be a problem to deal with. U better give bill and the others their **** back u frickin low life.

[GrandmasterCow]

yesh keep talkin ****. well seems since you posted this i was cursed... the ta is crashed, about 800$ worth of damage and its at a shop now. bill if u want another muffler ill get u it. the t5 from craig was previously damaged, so why pay honeswtly for something thats no use? the roshans tires is a long story but it's not even my fault, i mean tires wer given to me, said they were mine. now chris telling everyhone that i took them or something, and now roshan is psised at me and starting ****. im not around mucnh, but it doesnt mean bring up all this ********, i am a honest guy, i just end up getting myself into bad situations one after another.

[98tadriver]

shady.

[GrandmasterCow]

yeah man, i get myself into bad situations :( lol i dont mean anything bad by it honestly, i jsut have to be much more careful. now that my car is ****ed up im struggling with some money atm.

[foff667]

yesh keep talkin ****. well seems since you posted this i was cursed... the ta is crashed, about 800$ worth of damage and its at a shop now. bill if u want another muffler ill get u it. the t5 from craig was previously damaged, so why pay honeswtly for something thats no use? the roshans tires is a long story but it's not even my fault, i mean tires wer given to me, said they were mine. now chris telling everyhone that i took them or something, and now roshan is psised at me and starting ****. im not around mucnh, but it doesnt mean bring up all this ********, i am a honest guy, i just end up getting myself into bad situations one after another.

you told me on AIM that you were rear ended..i didnt post this until a few days afterwords so you've cursed yourself apparently. As far as Craigs T5 I will say it again there is a large 8-12in crack in the bellhousing that wouldve easily been seen when you made the purchase or upon installation seeing that its still on the car & I was able to see it, take pictures & post them on this very forum days after receiving the car. As far as a muffler goes thats very generous is that gonna be when you get paid? Don't bother...I've got a few people that have offered their stockers so im set. This was just a warning to anyone that will deal with you in the future. Did/has roshan gotten his rims/tires back as of yet? I severely doubt it at this point. Your not honest otherwise I'd have my catback & roshan would have his rims/tires & craig would have the money owed to him. If you want to settle your debt send craig a check for $250 & show up at a CI meet & give Roshan his rims...I'm done going back and forth with you for something that I shouldnt have to fight over.

[camaroracer1992]

ban!!!!!!!

[98tadriver]

ban?

[camaroracer1992]

as in boot off.... what you dont understand simple stuff either?

[Savage_Messiah]

t5 from craig was previously damaged, so why pay honeswtly for something thats no use?

If that was the case why did you a) accept it and b) install it in your car?? I'm defiantely calling BS there...

[NJSPEEDER]

the t5 from craig was previously damaged, so why pay honeswtly for something thats no use?

this bothers me greatly. craig is prolly temost honest person i have ever met in my life, and teh most forgiving too.
i know which trans he sold you, i saw it with my own eyes no more than a few hours before he met up with you when he stopped here. THERE WAS NO VISIBLE DAMAGE ON THE TRANS!!! we had also checked it over very throughly running it through teh gears while turning the input shaft by hand and looking for signs of binding when craig received it, again, there was no sign of any damage.
i even saw you after the install at the south jersey fudds meet and you said it drove fine for several days before it "stopped working". during the same conversation you also stated that you had started teh car in gear and were jsut learning how to drive stick.
the recently discovered physical damage to teh case of the trans is clearly from contact with teh starter. the starter or trans were either not lined up or bolted in correctly and the starter hit the bell, causing the bell to crack and the starter to be ripped off the block.

i have also known bill prolly almost as long as you have been alive and have never heard anyone complain about getting a raw deal from him. he has no need to lie in this situation since so many people around here already respect him and his abilities around a car.

i hope you resolve these issues honestly and soon.

[Ian]

I'm thinking that the bellhousing got cracked because the trans didnt sit flush against the back of the block and he tried to make it flush by tightening the bolts to bring the two together.

In any event, this is really not a good situation from any angle. The only thing I can possibly see happening is roshan getting his wheels and tires back. Bill is never gonna get a muffler out of this and craig is out 250 bucks. :shrug:

[enRo]

[2 Cents]

I think we all learned a lesson here. #1 in my book IMHO, unless I completely trust the buyer 150% I would NEVER EVER EVER settle for a fraction of the price upfront and the rest later. My grey WS6 is sold under payments to tastyle88 and I trust him 150% that he will pay the rest off. There should have also been a written agreement which me and tastyle88 did as well, for security reasons like this one should've had. The trans situation is obviously wrong, and people in this situation get negative brownie points with other buyers/sellers . Its the buyers fault for not inspecting the tranny thoroughly, and its the sellers fault for not whipping up a written agreement of payment. Agreed with Tim that this should be settled honestly and soon. Im not gonna comment on the wheels/rims/w.e cuz I dont know the full story. Im not taking sides in this situation cuz I dont make enemies, but thats just how I feel and thats my [/2 cents]

[ALLMACK]

i have also known bill prolly almost as long as you have been alive and have never heard anyone complain about getting a raw deal from him. he has no need to lie in this situation since so many people around here already respect him and his abilities around a car.
This is the feeling I also get, which is why I am putting My trust in him with my prized possesion.
I too hope things get resolved but i dont doubt fooff667 for even a sec.

[qwikz28]

bill what kind of muffler was it?

[foff667]

bill what kind of muffler was it?

magnaflow

[foff667]

I moved it to the classifieds because it has to do with buying and selling on this board. I also contacted Eric via AIM and sent him a link to this thread asking if he would like to tell his side of the story.

- Justin

the only thing is our deal didn't come about through the classifieds I knew him as a member & met him at one of the boards meets as well as at atco...I knew his car was having issues and his sig on CI said he was selling it. This is just as much about lying, stealing & cheating as it is selling parts or a car which is why I put it where people can see the type of person he is not only in transactions but how he lies to cover up more lies.

[PBodyGT87]

the t5 from craig was previously damaged, so why pay honeswtly for something thats no use?

Correct me if I am wrong...

Didn't Craig offer to pay back the money you bought it with if you gave him back the trans? I find it hard to believe that someone would buy a transmission with a crack in the bellhousing, and then "woops!!" complain about it later. You should know better than to purchase something like that without inspecting it yourself. You had a fair deal to begin with, but now you complain about it, and then when you have the chance to get your money back, and rid yourself of something of such little or "no use" to you, you don't take it?

[qwikz28]

Correct me if I am wrong...

Didn't Craig offer to pay back the money you bought it with if you gave him back the trans? I find it hard to believe that someone would buy a transmission with a crack in the bellhousing, and then "woops!!" complain about it later. You should know better than to purchase something like that without inspecting it yourself. You had a fair deal to begin with, but now you complain about it, and then when you have the chance to get your money back, and rid yourself of something of such little or "no use" to you, you don't take it?
i personally see it a little differently then you...

when you buy a used part, you are NEVER guarenteed it to work unless it is exactly that, guaranteed to work by he original owner. i dont know if craig did that but reguardless of whether or not the tranny actually worked is not craig's problem.

i'm sorry man but being in business with my father i personally would rather take a loss then make someone upset. even if i know that person will never buy again from us. its just principle of the matter. what goes around comes around... and as you can see now, it is. you picked a heads/cam install ahead of making a fellow f-bodyer happpy. thats just childish in my opinion, and know your car is cracked up, you are about to lose all that money you stole, and you made many enemies.

[Savage_Messiah]

<-- Also does not believe Craig would sell a bad tranny, has heard a long time ago about the "return the trans and ill return the money" offer, and agrees both Craig and Bill are good and honest guys. Forgot to add that earlier.

[GrandmasterCow]

so what now? everyones ****ing against me now? wtf? the transmission i NEVER SAW ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT PHYSICALLY! i did mention i had it at two transmission shops, THEY MIGHT HAVE DAAMGED THE TRANSMISION PHYSICALLY, I DONT KNOW. as i haven't been under that car since i finished the swap. yes, i probably should have taken more professional action but its a lesson hard earned for me and i ****ed up. i did return roshans rims today, and ill handle the bill issue.

[camaroracer1992]

no mentions of craigs balance due to him :shrug:

[PBodyGT87]

so what now? everyones ****ing against me now? wtf? the transmission i NEVER SAW ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT PHYSICALLY! i did mention i had it at two transmission shops, THEY MIGHT HAVE DAAMGED THE TRANSMISION PHYSICALLY, I DONT KNOW. as i haven't been under that car since i finished the swap. yes, i probably should have taken more professional action but its a lesson hard earned for me and i ****ed up. i did return roshans rims today, and ill handle the bill issue.

It's not that anyone is against you. And that's good that you returned the rims. What I'm getting at is:
1.) It's that you either owe Craig money while you keep the trans, (because if you didn't see any damage when you bought it, and are claiming that the other tranmission shops are the ones responsible for cracking the bellhousing, then that is not Craig's fault, and he should not have to lose money over damage that he DID NOT CAUSE, because you purchased it with no damage, and then when there was damage, it had no longer been in craig's posession at the time)
2.) Or, that you give the tranmission back to craig, and get your money back.

This board is not here to make enemies, it's here as an outlet to share everyone's collective interests, and with that, everyone wants it to be fair and just. We look out for everyone else, and we would look out for you too. I'm sure we can just be glad you said you know you messed up, the only thing left is to rectify the situation in some way or another, which I understand you've already begun to do.

[foff667]

It's not that anyone is against you. And that's good that you returned the rims. What I'm getting at is:
1.) It's that you either owe Craig money while you keep the trans, (because if you didn't see any damage when you bought it, and are claiming that the other tranmission shops are the ones responsible for cracking the bellhousing, then that is not Craig's fault, and he should not have to lose money over damage that he DID NOT CAUSE, because you purchased it with no damage, and then when there was damage, it had no longer been in craig's posession at the time)
2.) Or, that you give the tranmission back to craig, and get your money back.



FYI eric is no longer in possession of said tranny since I traded my heads/cam for his car and all associated parts one of which(the tranny) was actually installed on the car. The only recourse for craig would be to settle his debt with eric monetarily...I told craig though if the tranny isnt at least partially salvagable he's more then welcome to it(which i doubt he'd want it at that point)...im still not sure what route I want to go ie auto or manual at this point since if i went back to the auto it might be actually i know it would be more work then just getting the manaul to work.

[foff667]

so what now? everyones ****ing against me now? wtf? the transmission i NEVER SAW ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT PHYSICALLY! i did mention i had it at two transmission shops, THEY MIGHT HAVE DAAMGED THE TRANSMISION PHYSICALLY, I DONT KNOW. as i haven't been under that car since i finished the swap. yes, i probably should have taken more professional action but its a lesson hard earned for me and i ****ed up. i did return roshans rims today, and ill handle the bill issue.

its not about everyone being against you...I trusted you enough to not screw me...I'm very good friends with craig & I looked the other way in his situation(which i truely regret now) the fact is it was never craigs fault that the tranny broke, cracked, whatever...craig like myself trusted you in good faith & pretty much did the same thing in both situations in craigs you took the merchandise and put a little money out, installed the stuff then were unhappy was the 10 inch long crack craigs fault? No. With me you took my heads/cam, installed it on your car & realized your exhaust was too loud so what did you do, took off your loudmouth & put on the magnaflow...now the magnaflow is messed up from what I understand. If you said in your first post "ok I'll make it right" & contacted Craig, Roshan & myself I probably wouldve had this thread removed or at least posted the update & had it locked until everything was resolved. $250 is not alot of money, Roshans Rims were/are/is in your possession & all you had to do was give them back or make arrangements with him & same with my exhaust. None of us are hard to track down especially if its to get our stuff in order. All Three of us are board members and the last I checked we all have a PM box.

[NJSPEEDER]

the transmission i NEVER SAW ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT PHYSICALLY! i did mention i had it at two transmission shops, THEY MIGHT HAVE DAAMGED THE TRANSMISION PHYSICALLY, I DONT KNOW. as i haven't been under that car since i finished the swap. yes, i probably should have taken more professional action but its a lesson hard earned for me and i ****ed up. i did return roshans rims today, and ill handle the bill issue.

so you are saying you aren't really sure when or by whom the trans was damaged and you still decided not to pay craig?
that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. expecially when you had it at shops that would have seen the physical damage, that you know wasn't there before the install, as soon as the car hit a lift.
the lesson you should be learning from this is that if you don't have a clear and agreed to answer to the opposite, follow through with what you agreed to in the first place.

[Little G]

Paypal $250 to LittleG@njfboa.org and all will be well. I don't think I need to explain to you, since you have no coherent explanation for any wrongdoings here.

g

[dan]

this is way off topic, but little G, i think i raced you at the track once, you had slicks and skinnies and some lady there with ya, we were the first ones lined up?, i was in a red hardtop ls1 formula and you beat me......., if your not the same guy my bad :) but there cant be that many 02 silver 6ers runnin around pullin those times...eh, u prolly dont remember

[PBodyGT87]

this is way off topic, but little G, i think i raced you at the track once, you had slicks and skinnies and some lady there with ya, we were the first ones lined up?, i was in a red hardtop ls1 formula and you beat me......., if your not the same guy my bad :) but there cant be that many 02 silver 6ers runnin around pullin those times...eh, u prolly dont remember

if i was the lady, that sounds familiar...

[GrandmasterCow]

sent pm s

[foff667]

"and ill handle the bill issue."

"sent pm s"

:shrug:

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Holy Jesus guys..

I think its time for everyone to grow up and walk away..

I used to think the same way craig did..untill i got ****ed on the sale of my 89 ta. Long story short i went to court got my money only because i had some proof in writing and offical documents (titles, etc)

In your situation you all look preety foolish to me..

Craig should of never let that trans go untill he had 350 bucks or however much it was IN HIS HAND. If he gave it to him and only had 150..without any kind of WRITTEN agreement..then basicly, hes flat out ****ed. Sucks dude..but unless next time your selling stuff to justin or someone really really close to you..better make sure you collect in full first.

And yeah, on Erics part..deffinitly a gay ass thing to do man. You would think that in a group of enthusiasts you wouldnt **** someone out of their money. Even if the part went bad 20 minutes after you bought it and it was installed perfect..its all apart of the risk you take in buying a used part with no warranty..honestly you dont have to pay craig a dime but unless you wanna be known as the club doushe bag then you should really man up and pay him.

And Bill..it sucks your stuck in the middle man and didnt know about the parts untill after you bought the car but really..you shouldnt of given him the traded parts or taken possession of the vehicle untill you had all of the parts that where included in the deal. The trans, rims muffler..etc...

So like the judges in small claims court say..
The best way for the case to end is with both parties leaving unhappy.
Then, and only then will you learn your lesson.

Write it off and move on..but i bet you wont make the same mistake again.

[foff667]

Holy Jesus guys..

I think its time for everyone to grow up and walk away..

I used to think the same way craig did..untill i got ****ed on the sale of my 89 ta. Long story short i went to court got my money only because i had some proof in writing and offical documents (titles, etc)

In your situation you all look preety foolish to me..

Craig should of never let that trans go untill he had 350 bucks or however much it was IN HIS HAND. If he gave it to him and only had 150..without any kind of WRITTEN agreement..then basicly, hes flat out ****ed. Sucks dude..but unless next time your selling stuff to justin or someone really really close to you..better make sure you collect in full first.

And yeah, on Erics part..deffinitly a gay ass thing to do man. You would think that in a group of enthusiasts you wouldnt **** someone out of their money. Even if the part went bad 20 minutes after you bought it and it was installed perfect..its all apart of the risk you take in buying a used part with no warranty..honestly you dont have to pay craig a dime but unless you wanna be known as the club doushe bag then you should really man up and pay him.

And Bill..it sucks your stuck in the middle man and didnt know about the parts untill after you bought the car but really..you shouldnt of given him the traded parts or taken possession of the vehicle untill you had all of the parts that where included in the deal. The trans, rims muffler..etc...

So like the judges in small claims court say..
The best way for the case to end is with both parties leaving unhappy.
Then, and only then will you learn your lesson.

Write it off and move on..but i bet you wont make the same mistake again.

if you'll read craigs posts he did write it off...he never posted on here about it to my knowledge. I am the one bringing it to light because I think ****ing over 3 people is pretty ******. As far as my situation goes I've pretty much written it off too. Since this site doesnt have a buyer/seller feedback this is how its done. Sorry you got screwed over with your car but that does nothing but make you biased...obviously you have trust issues. Sometimes you have to have faith in people.

[GrandmasterCow]

alright, i am paying craig back once i get money, and bill what do you want now?

[GrandmasterCow]

and really, why keep ranting about this ****? im trying to settle all this and all, and by dragging it on and on is very childish. yes, i got myself into bad situations but i'm working them out to get myself outta them. i like everyone in the club and i dont want ppl thinking negatively of me, so i mtrying to set things streight.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Trust issues? nah...

I just dont go out and trust people that i met once or twice at a fbody meet or online with my money..

And writing it off..thats good too...glad ya could move on..minus the request to paypal the money just 6 posts up be regardless..good to hear..

and if erics gonna make good..even better than..

all im saying is people have to be more careful with that they do with there valuables.

[foff667]

alright, i am paying craig back once i get money, and bill what do you want now?

read: I've pretty much written it off

[foff667]

and really, why keep ranting about this ****? im trying to settle all this and all, and by dragging it on and on is very childish. yes, i got myself into bad situations but i'm working them out to get myself outta them. i like everyone in the club and i dont want ppl thinking negatively of me, so i mtrying to set things streight.

who's ranting? You said you sent pm's and would "handle" the bill issue? I failed to receive a pm and craig received a PM with an excuse. If your trying to settle you debt or what have you and want to say you'll Handle something you might wanna contact that person :shrug:

[nj85z28]

and this is why i dont let people borrow or loan me things.....and always pay for service at the time rendered.

[Slow 88]

and really, why keep ranting about this ****? im trying to settle all this and all, and by dragging it on and on is very childish. yes, i got myself into bad situations but i'm working them out to get myself outta them. i like everyone in the club and i dont want ppl thinking negatively of me, so i mtrying to set things streight.


This is none of my business but how could you say anything about being childish? YOU BEAT PEOPLE OUT OF MONEY AND PARTS!!! That is childish! I am most certain that if you were the person on the other end of this mess you would be ranting and raving, because I know I sure would....

[Wasted Youth]

i hope craig gets the money and bill gets his exhaust...i would have to say he cracked the bellhousing forcing it on when the input shaft didnt line up in the pilot bearing/bushing right...pretty common mistake...probably had the intention of paying craig then he broke the bellhousing and didn't want to pay for something he couldn't use...at the same time...ok so he is having a hard time with debt or what have you and he is bringing other people into his problems which isn't right at all...when he corrects the problem by fulfilling promises made...it will be forgiven...but def. not forgotten...and the last time i checked...the bellhousing unbolted from the T5 and could be purchased separate...so bill what car did you acquire? i've been away for a few months...

[foff667]

i hope craig gets the money and bill gets his exhaust...i would have to say he cracked the bellhousing forcing it on when the input shaft didnt line up in the pilot bearing/bushing right...pretty common mistake...probably had the intention of paying craig then he broke the bellhousing and didn't want to pay for something he couldn't use...at the same time...ok so he is having a hard time with debt or what have you and he is bringing other people into his problems which isn't right at all...when he corrects the problem by fulfilling promises made...it will be forgiven...but def. not forgotten...and the last time i checked...the bellhousing unbolted from the T5 and could be purchased separate...so bill what car did you acquire? i've been away for a few months...

erics 98 v6 camaro

[z28c4maro82z]

HAHAHAHAHA It is I the one who leant Eric the rims/tires (Roshans)

Now that night Eric kept ranting on and on about not having tires at the track. I lend him, and let it be known LEND him the tires. Then he goes and burns them up with his little videos. Then says to Roshan I gave them to him. Roshan knows that it was BS as I wouldn't give away something that isn't mine. Anyways, everything got settled there sort of. But this guy Eric needs to be watched. He is a lying douche, and should not be trusted. Multiple times he lied to me. Said he had an LS6 intake manifold he had in his garage, and was going to sell it to me for 300. Turns out his buddies told me it was an LS1 intake. Yeh I too almost got owned.

Eric is a little ass kid who can't handle himself as a grown man.

[GrandmasterCow]

whatever chris, YOU'RE the lying one here. and i really dont care what you or roshan say/think, i know what happened and thats that! you dont needto be coming into here staying more ****.

[foff667]

you dont needto be coming into here staying more ****.

he was part of one of the above issues...he has every right to come in here & tell everyone what happened...if it happened differently you have every right to rebuttle...your rebuttle was this "YOU'RE the lying one here. and i really dont care what you or roshan say/think, i know what happened and thats that!" Well gee if you know what happened that settles it doesnt it, **** your right Im sorry man, you know what happened :bow:

[GrandmasterCow]

and chris, if what you said is true, why would you lend out someone elses property? and somehow, THey're all mad at me?!?! if i left something at someones house, and they lent it out, and that other person ruined it, i'd be very mad at the person i left my property at ! and not turn everyone against the other person.

[foff667]

and chris, if what you said is true, why would you lend out someone elses property? and somehow, THey're all mad at me?!?! if i left something at someones house, and they lent it out, and that other person ruined it, i'd be very mad at the person i left my property at ! and not turn everyone against the other person.

yeah but you told me they were your friends rims/tires & that he borrowed mine to pass inspection because he burnt up those tires, which makes you a liar because the next thing I knew my tires somehow mysteriously were on YOUR TA. You keep trying to defend your actions but you have no base to stand on...you say you sent pm's now a month ago...I know for a fact craig still hasnt seen a dime from you...so if your not going to make an effort to pay him back why post "sent pm's" its not like you owe him some huge amount of money and you have so many bills to pay. You live at home with your parents who think your the one getting ripped off by everyone. Since Im going to the february meet bring a check for craig in his name & I'll give it to him if he cant make it to the meet that will at least clear that end of the debt. Thanks to people like cbrrmike i got a new muffler for the car so I honestly don't need anything from you other then an "Im sorry I lied to everyone about everything my debts have been paid to everyone that is owed & I'll try to be more honest in the future because I do want to live to see 21" Trust me Eric there are alot worse things I couldve done other then post a thread the next person you screw might not be so nice.

[GrandmasterCow]

the camaro rims were on my ta just so i had somethin to drive on, roshans rims i placed on ca,maro just to transport to ur house, and my friend had my ta rims. i toldu that. i then fixed it all, eventually. hah. but yeah bill im sorry man, i made a big mess. and i do intend paying craig back once iget the money, i dont even have ten dollars to my name untill i land a new job which im working on rightg now.

[ALLMACK]

bill im sorry man, i made a big mess. and i do intend paying craig back once iget the money, i dont even have ten dollars to my name untill i land a new job which im working on rightg now
Well at least now you sound like you are trying to "come clean"
I know bill, he is a great and honest guy, he deserves at bare minimum an apology.

[GrandmasterCow]

yeah, i got myself into this mess, hell everyone deserves an apology and im working on getting myself out. i dont want a bad image of myself.

[z28c4maro82z]

Yeh I have every right to come here. Why did I leand the rims out because Roshan said he wouldn't have minded. He didn't. Anyways, you took the rims. My g/f can vouch for this. I said "I need these back"

You decided to light em up. Be stupid...you know ignore what you were told. Then you lie and lie and lie to get yourself out of it. When you really dig yourself further into your own ditch. Just put it to rest man. Your a pathalogical liar. No ways around it

BTW Your new GF Dana....lol u know the one with the mustang....Did she buy you an outfit yet. Has she started asking for you to buy her crap for her car. Ask about he x bf....He bought everything on that car. Then ask where he is once he stopped paying. LMAO....

[Oddball]

Can we please lock this thread? The issues are pretty clear and I don't think forther discussion is doing any good.

[Little G]

Until it's resolved, it stays open. Mind your own business, if you don't want it kicked to the top, don't post.

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[z28c4maro82z]

Back to the top with this thread. Should be made a sticky

[Untamed]

BTW Your new GF Dana....lol u know the one with the mustang....Did she buy you an outfit yet. Has she started asking for you to buy her crap for her car. Ask about he x bf....He bought everything on that car. Then ask where he is once he stopped paying. LMAO....

Ouch. That goes beyond the point of this thread I think.

[Jersey_TA]

Roshan is one of my close friends and ex roommate.

TTT

[z28c4maro82z]

Maybe he is turning over a new leaf. Just had a good transaction with him the other day. Paid in cash, and was very cool about it

[Oddball]

Maybe he is turning over a new leaf. Just had a good transaction with him the other day. Paid in cash, and was very cool about it

You'll find in business and in life sometimes exposing someone or putting the fear of god into them will turn them around. I've never met GMC or have ever done business with him so I don't know if this is the case but maybe being called out here was the motivation he needed.

[z28c4maro82z]

I hope it was, it was a fine transaction on my end. I know at one point I was expecting him to try to stiff me out of 10 bucks because I was asking 110 but he paid in pull. A+ this time in my book

[Little G]

TTT, still unresolved... waiting...

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[Savage_Messiah]

I see there's a post over 2 months ago that said he was paying you back Craig... the fact that 2 months later you haven't seen any money I think justifys the reason this thread stayed open.

[Mike]

yet in that 2 months he found 110 to buy somthing else

[Tru2Chevy]

yet in that 2 months he found 110 to buy somthing else

Really? That's quite interesting....

- Justin

[GrandmasterCow]

yet in that 2 months he found 110 to buy somthing else

thats because i'm waiting for j0n to purchase my old LM off me and then that money is going toward craig's payment.

[bad64chevelle]

but why not pay off your debt first before waiting for him...that doesnt make sense to continue the BS when you could have solved it.

[qwikz28]

but why not pay off your debt first before waiting for him...that doesnt make sense to continue the BS when you could have solved it.
kids these days have poor money management... myself included actually

[The Fixer]

kids these days have poor money management... myself included actually

You'll wake up when you realize that you have no $$ saved towards your future. Been there, done that, could write a book on all the stupid mistakes I made with my money from the time I got my license up until I turned 25. That was when I realized I was fooked. Good thing my wife had saved her $$, or I'd be living in a shack with an outhouse instead of a real house.

And Grandmastercow, I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but that is pretty douche of you to buy something else before settling your debts. The bank would come and take your car away if you decided to spend $$ on mods and then realize at the end of the month you couldn't make your car payment. They wouldn't give a rat's ass to know you dropped 2 seconds from your quarter-mile time with the money you spent; it shoulda been a car payment, period. Get my point?

Time to be more financially responsible.

[chummmma]

hey what about me... you still owe me some tires or at least some money for the damage to the rims u did... i dont know how the hell you chipped the rims... and you keep claiming that they were "your" rims in all your pics. and vids.......

[GrandmasterCow]

hey what about me... you still owe me some tires or at least some money for the damage to the rims u did... i dont know how the hell you chipped the rims... and you keep claiming that they were "your" rims in all your pics. and vids.......

yeah it was all a mixup and ****. um, i'm honestly not sure, dude, how the rims got chipped, but i can probably get you some tires. they won't be DRs but i can get you some tires to mount on those rims if you want. i cant do money because i'm saving money to pay craig back and one of my friends to get the debt off my shoulders. if you wanna work something out, let me know.

[Little G]

TTT, still unresolved... waiting...

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[98tadriver]

dang, lol

[chummmma]

eric... are you ever gonna contact me or pm me or anything... im tired of always having to contact you to get **** done... are you ever gonna straighten this out or not... just let me know now... and no more bs run arounds.

[johnjzjz]

the guy who knows him should copy all of this and hand it to him so i never seen that is not in play jz

[98tadriver]

Hey guys, he must have some money laying around, look at this thread! http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17389

[GrandmasterCow]

Hey guys, he must have some money laying around, look at this thread! http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17389

You trying to start **** ?

[bad64chevelle]

Hey guys, he must have some money laying around, look at this thread! http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17389

or you can look at this one and let the people who are involved with this one deal with it and stop throwing fuel to the fire...
http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17425

[98tadriver]

Starting ****?? Listen up little man, im just letting some people know what's up. I got ripped off before and i know how it is. It aint fair to em. Its f*cked up as a matter of fact. And as for "throwing fuel into the fire", Im not, you 2 obviously blew it all out of context. :confused:

[bad64chevelle]

Little man? Dont worry Ive been ripped off too, I have a bum TH350 that needs to be rebuilt and has less then 1000 miles on a Fresh rebuild. How did I blow what you added out of context? Please enlighten me!

[qwikz28]

enough already...

TAdriver- the admins are involved in this problem so dont worry about it. everyone knows whats going on and eric said he's trying to get the money so leave him be

and jon, go study you have an exam in an hour

[bad64chevelle]

:werd:

[Tru2Chevy]

Thanks Jake.

The only people that need to be involved in this are those directly affected.

- Justin

[Little G]

TTT, still unresolved... waiting...

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[GrandmasterCow]

yeah i know im trying, im really broke now and trying to throw up everything i can onto my "forsale" post.

[Little G]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17981

And yet you're in the market for powdercoating. Give me a break man, you're talking to the debt king. I've been $10k+ in debt and still didn't have a problem coming up with a few hundred bucks. Quit jerking me off.

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[GrandmasterCow]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17981

And yet you're in the market for powdercoating. Give me a break man, you're talking to the debt king. I've been $10k+ in debt and still didn't have a problem coming up with a few hundred bucks. Quit jerking me off.

g

dont ****ing start with me. as i said before, i'm working on it. that powdercoating is for a friend of mine, NOT me. once people buy **** from me i can pay you back.

[Little G]

Make it happen and I'll stop raising ****.

g

[Rob WS6]

dont ****ing start with me.

Youve got some serious BALLS talking to him like that... your acting like hes bothering YOU! Ive got news for ya, YOU ripped HIM off, hes got every right to start what ever he wants with you. Give the whole tough-guy-wanna be Im-so-broke attitude up and maybe people will cut you a little slack. We've all been there, coming up with $250 isnt ****... try bring single, having some some real debt, a mortgage, and two of the most expensive hobbies(cars and guitars), coupled with being laid off, then talk to be about being broke. Give the guy his money and this will all be done. :roll:

[GrandmasterCow]

Youve got some serious BALLS talking to him like that... your acting like hes bothering YOU! Ive got news for ya, YOU ripped HIM off, hes got every right to start what ever he wants with you. Give the whole tough-guy-wanna be Im-so-broke attitude up and maybe people will cut you a little slack. We've all been there, coming up with $250 isnt ****... try bring single, having some some real debt, a mortgage, and two of the most expensive hobbies(cars and guitars), coupled with being laid off, then talk to be about being broke. Give the guy his money and this will all be done. :roll:

alright, i was wrong to type that. i just dont have money atm and im trying to pay him back. once i get the money then yes ill pay him back immediately.

[Rob WS6]

See, thats better now. Keep it civil like that and I think youll be a bit better off. ;)

[GrandmasterCow]

haha

[Little G]

TTT, still unresolved... waiting...

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[NJSPEEDER]

leave this matter to the people invovled, all other posts will be deleted.

[Little G]

TTT, still unresolved... waiting...

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[GrandmasterCow]

pm sent

[Little G]

TTT, still unresolved... waiting...

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[GrandmasterCow]

sent