F-body Culture?

[Untamed]

After passing by a heap of metal on 206 in Bridgewater this morning, where it looked like a Subaru fused itself to the back of a Toyota, my mind drifted over all the stupid little Ricer one-liners we have. From there I started imagining who drove such vehicles and what they look like.

We all imagine the stereotypical Ricer with his hat on sideways, clothing thats three sizes too large, while speaking something close to the English language.

So I starting wondering - is there an F-body culture? Anyone have any friends who've talked about F-body drivers? Any stereotypes that we have to live up to? When I think about all the folks in this club, we're all over the map in terms of personalities, styles, cultures and so on.

Anyone have any friends make any comments about Camaro or Firebird drivers? I feel like a poor little white American kid desperately trying to cling to a culture I've never known.

[BigAls87Z28]

My quick list of Fbody Sterotypes

First Gen Owners- rich people that garage them or sell them at B-J only to buy it back for 2x the price. Great style and everyone wants one, just they dotn have 30k for just a basket case.
Early 2nd Gen Owners- Nothing that comes to mind, close to the First gens, but the market for them isnt there yet.
Late 2nd gens/early Third gens- Redneck, mullet wearing, White Snake rocking people. Slow slow slow and heavy 2nd gens come near 2 tons. Half of that is in the smog equipemnt that is manditory.
Mid to late Third gens- Slow dogs that only have 305's. Owned by teenagers who work on them hard, but nothing too heavy. They dont have the same support as the fugly dime a dozen Fox body Mudstains do.
4th gens- owned by rich kids who's mommy and daddy got them a nice LT1 or LS1 car for bday/christmas. Cut-Check Hot Rodding abounds, they cut a check for big money for little things like headers or intake install and dont get there hands dirty.

[Tsar]

4th gens- owned by rich kids who's mommy and daddy got them a nice LT1 or LS1 car for bday/christmas. Cut-Check Hot Rodding abounds, they cut a check for big money for little things like headers or intake install and dont get there hands dirty.riiight, i asked my mom for 20 dollars for gas once cuz i ran out of money and i still had two days til my paycheck...i had to borrow money from my co-worker. rich kids huh?

[GP99GT]

http://www.mulletlovers.com/images/camaromullet.jpg

that looks like a 4th gen hes getting into...i think

[BigAls87Z28]

he asked for stereotypes, and thats what they are. Id say that the LS1 crowd takes up more of that then the LT1 cars since the LT1 cars prices are dropping fast.

[jims69camaro]

black IROC with gold gfx: italian, wife beater wearin', gold chains abound, at least one tattoo (why he wears the wife beater, to show it off), hairy chested ignoramus.

black second gen trans am with gold bird on hood: mullet wearing, hard rock t-shirt (most likely a concert shirt from a concert he never went to), blue jeans, dirt under his finger nails from touching anything under the hood (because he never cleans under the hood, only polishes and waxes his black paint and gold bird).

fourth gen: kid, under 25, still living at home, always preoccupied, sometimes with a skinny girl in the car, more likely three of his friends (and one of them in the back seat is always trying to squeeze his head out to holla at someone).

first gen: older, gray hair at the temples (if not bald), blue jeans with a 3 inch cuff at the bottom, white t-shirt with a pack of smokes rolled up in one sleeve, divorced at least once, finally living his dream driving a cool car from his childhood.

[Untamed]

I can see those, but the ricer culture cuts across many imports. Doesn't matter what make or model, the punks look and sound the same.

I've heard about similar descriptions (of the ricers) attributed to Mustang drivers. Young punks who know very little about their cars other than they go fast and everyone else drives one. Thats the way it was in the late 80's, early 90's. Everyone at my school in southern Florida wanted an LX 5.0, like it was the best thing out there. Half the guys got them simply because so many others had them. Conformity sucks.

But when I look at Camaro/Firebird gatherings I dont see the same or similar looks from the people driving them. Mustangs and ricers have their punks, the Corvettes have their middle aged men, bikes have their punks, trucks have their rednecks (depending on region), and so on. But with the f-bodies I just dont see that (unless all I would look at is fbody hideout).

[LS1Hawk]

4th gens- owned by rich kids who's mommy and daddy got them a nice LT1 or LS1 car for bday/christmas. Cut-Check Hot Rodding abounds, they cut a check for big money for little things like headers or intake install and dont get there hands dirty.

Honestly, that does seem to be the case with most 4th gen owners. At least the ones that got them new. To speak for myself...I pretty much saved every dollar I made between high school and college to buy one. It took awhile, but I finally got it once I graduate college and started working, got a loan, and got the car.

But most my friends, or people I meet who find out I have a T/A...right away the mullet and redneck comments come out. Doesn't matter what generation you drive :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

Id say that any Fbody from 74 to present gets the "Mullet" comment.

[Firebird67dude]

IDK if its just the ppl i run into or talk to but when ever T/As get brought up its like "wow must be a fast car." My buddy has a camaro and most ppl. are like "oo cool a camaro." The first gen ppl. are the best tho. People still come up to me and are like "Ur that kid that had that 67 Firebird right?"

[JL8Jeff]

This says it all.

http://www.mulletlovers.com/images/carmullet.jpg

[79CamaroDiva]

This says it all.

http://www.mulletlovers.com/images/carmullet.jpg

gotta love the 2nd gens. They were just the unfortunate generation that had to live through the 70s and early 80s. by the time the mullett wearing people could afford one, they were probably the 'cool used' cars. It's not the car's fault. ;)

[ar0ck]

The biggest stereotype I have ever come across with any F-Body is the Wife Beating, Bad Beer Drinking, Mullet wearing, white snake listening, trailer trash types.

My boss always refers to the LT1 crowd as the poor college kids that can't afford the LS1. Which is partially true :lol:

[coldkilla]

My boss always refers to the LT1 crowd as the poor college kids that can't afford the LS1. Which is partially true :lol:

Or dont want LS1's. my LT1 bird was a ****in steal and was absolutely babied, before i got it of course, and is plenty fast while still 10,000-15,000 cheaper than a comparable LS1 car. anyways...
being someone who really doesnt "live" in car culture, very few of my friends give a damn about cars etc., and is fairly mainstreamed i can tell you right off what most people think. the 3rd gens that have the most stigma. even late model 2nd gens are considered "collector" cars right now by most but all third gens are still trying to escape the crap ass 80's culture they were introduced into. 95% of 3rd gens are driven by retarded looking bums and are falling apart (the remaining 5% are here of course hehehe) and just get no respect. from anyone. outside of enthusiasts of course.

most of my friends drive acura's, bmw's and the like and arent into anything other than comfort in their rides but in the rare case that cars do come up in conversation, as soon as my bird is mentioned for some reason they all bow down and give me respect like i drive a 9sec car. i have no idea why, i guess they dont know that most of their cars are faster than mine but when they hear me say firebird and talk about what ive done to it, they are defeated. i dont complain.

[IROCZBeast]

unfortunately some of the sterotypes are true. Most young LS1 drivers were handed the car by their parents.

I've been working since I was 12 years old to buy my LT1.

and IROC of course stands for Italian Retard Out Cruisin.

it's funny how jim described an IROC driver cause that was the exact car I was looking for for a very long time and the driver he described is almost exactly me. Kinda scary actually jim you been stalking me or something? lol j/k.

[coldkilla]

and IROC of course stands for Italian Retard Out Cruisin.



HAHAHA thats good, i never heard that!

[calhoon]

Well, since I don't really know any of you guys, and no one else I know drives an F-body, I can only speak for myself. I would be a little mix of 2nd and 3rd gen. Italian, wanna-be redneck (no mullet), driving my slow, late model thirdgen that I work on myself, but is still slightly beat up with country/southern rock blaring.

I like to think there is someone out there like this besides me.

[hardline_42]

This site says it all

http://www.chevymonkey.com/

[trashman01]

i get the damn nightrider comments all the time. i just gave up, i got a clean thrid gen taht aint fallin apart, im not a red-neck(unless im drunk), i listen to country(it keeps me calm)

[jin1481]

i got my 4th gen for christmas from my parents, guilty as charged...

[slayerxxx213]

I paid for my car myself...Parents gave me a $3,000 loan to help me out though...And it's being paid back. So, again, no handout here. Had that not happened I would have just bought a late 3rd gen or a cheaper LT1 but my mom was all concerned with safety and stuff so my parents wound up loaning me the money I didn't have to get a car that wasn't falling apart, lol. (Got the car for $11,900, (with 21,xxx miles on it), paid for 9 of it myself). So, that stereotype isn't completely true...But, alot of the kids running around in real nice LS1's have been handed them by their parents...I knew a kid who got an '02 TA WS6 M6 w/ 3k miles on it...He wrecked in like a month or two...When he said to me, "It was only $23,000." I wanted to blast him in the face...It really frustrated me because that is the exact car I wanted and he got it and destroyed it...What really pissed me off though, was that he didn't even care...It was like it was no big deal to him.

[NP_00'T/A]

I saved up for mine and i'm still paying it off nothing was handed to me

[jin1481]

its a 94 and it was $3500 so i wouldnt say im one of the rich spoiled 4th gen kids. they also got it for me becuz im in the marine corps and ive spent the last 1 and half in japan and they know what ive been looking for. I also offered to buy the car before but they told me it got sold and then gave it to me for christmas.

[BigAls87Z28]

Now that prices have calmed down for the 4th gens, that whole deal is starting to calm down, but back in HS...different story.

[Rich189]

My quick list of Fbody Sterotypes

4th gens- owned by rich kids who's mommy and daddy got them a nice LT1 or LS1 car for bday/christmas. Cut-Check Hot Rodding abounds, they cut a check for big money for little things like headers or intake install and dont get there hands dirty.


hmm im 18 and have the 02 ws6 but i work my ass off for it my parents havent bought me much since i turned 15 and started working.... all my dad did was cosign for the loan and i make all the payments insurance ect myself... not to mention bought and fixed up my truck myself and will probably end up doing most of the work to the t/a myself except paint ect.
(just didnt want u guys thinking im some spoiled brat)

also for the other one.... yea theres normally always a cute skinny girl in my car its the girlfriend.... and i never put anyone in the back unless i absolutley have too...it gets my carpets dirty then i gotta clean the back again :{

[Jclt12003]

Yea i'm 20 years old and my parents bought my camaro for me as a graduation present and i bought my jeep right after that. I guess i fall into one of the stero types.

[Untamed]

Except for the White Snake (insert any other hard rock / heavy metal there) comment, I don't fit the rest.

I guess the few meets I've been to just seemed to say to me that we're all different, with a love for the cars because of what they are, not because we want to belong to some group or ideal like other kids feel the need for it seems. I think most of the people in this club have (had) the cars first, then sought others that liked the same, rather than got dragged here by friends to belong to something, conforming to some style to fit in.

Never had a mullett so wouldn't know the appeal.

Thanks for the input guys.

[BonzoHansen]

This site says it all

http://www.chevymonkey.com/OK, that is the funniest damn thin I have read in weeks!:rofl:

[WayFast84]

Except for the White Snake (insert any other hard rock / heavy metal there) comment, I don't fit the rest.

I guess the few meets I've been to just seemed to say to me that we're all different, with a love for the cars because of what they are, not because we want to belong to some group or ideal like other kids feel the need for it seems. I think most of the people in this club have (had) the cars first, then sought others that liked the same, rather than got dragged here by friends to belong to something, conforming to some style to fit in.

Never had a mullett so wouldn't know the appeal.

Thanks for the input guys.
I agree some what..I think pantera falls into the "white snake" Ive never had a mullet and yeah my car DID look like it belonged in front of a trailer park.. and actually Ive wanted to be a mechanic since I was 5 and I met my freind scott while riding my dirtbike(he had a moped) and ever since then Ive been addicted to cars...

[jims69camaro]

Kinda scary actually jim you been stalking me or something? lol j/k.

nah, nick, i just know my stereotypes. ;)

[Ian]

I agree some what..I think pantera falls into the "white snake" Ive never had a mullet and yeah my car DID look like it belonged in front of a trailer park.. and actually Ive wanted to be a mechanic since I was 5 and I met my freind scott while riding my dirtbike(he had a moped) and ever since then Ive been addicted to cars...

If you still want to be a mechanic, PM me about it. :)