matt (wayfast84)

[jims69camaro]

in a post, one that i didn't want to hijack because of the subject matter, you responded: "Couldn't of said it better myself."

it's a good response. however, it would be "couldn't've said", because what you are doing is making a contraction of three words: could not have. it's perfectly legal in english to make it like that, but you have to use the proper phrase. if you plan on going to college or technical school, then you'll likely take the SATs. that is a question on the test.

in one part, they ask you to identify problems or errors with sentences and, of the possible responses, one of them is "nothing wrong with this sentence (paraphrased)". they present a sentence comparable to the way you provided your response to the thread, and then provide four answers and the last one is "nothing wrong". hopefully, now you will get that question correct on the SATs, should you take them. if not, perhaps i won't see you making that mistake again? :mrgreen:

i am in no way flaming you or attacking you personally. this is an attempt to improve your written language skills. if it was in any other thread, i probably would've hijacked it, but the dude is feeling bad enough as it is without having someone appear to not be paying attention to his thread and hijacking it with something else instead.

p.s. i make mistakes when typing sometimes, too. i am far from perfect.

[WayFast84]

Yeah I know I suck at english..and it's weird because my mom teaches english at rutgers and middle sex county college...shes also a published author...I basically try my hardest with spelling and grammer but I just suck..

[Savage_Messiah]

The goes out to Alex (TransAm4life) also... good looking out.(And there I mean saying "I could care less" when what one means is "I COULDN'T care less)

[its Jeanne-Marie]

kasey, i don't believe that was english? maybe it was midget speak

[Tsar]

some people also confuse THERE and THEIR....

but why create a whole thread for this stuff?

[Savage_Messiah]

actually people confuse "there," "their" and "they're."

JM, Alex and other people (not picking on him just he comes to mind) commonly hear something that they do not care about, and say "I could care less" when they really mean "I couldn't care less"... saying "I could care less" means that you actually DO care so there is an amount of caring that could be lost... make sense?

[WayFast84]

Casey: are you gonna be a english teacher or some thing? maybe for 1st grade or some thing?

[Savage_Messiah]

It's Kasey and no, but it gets me that the collective brain of society is rotting away. Trying to do my little part to help... plus my Grandma was an english teacher and my school district (Tenafly) is one of the best in the state so it's just always irked me when people make these little mistakes like mixing up there their and they're... hell, I just had a little talk with my dad about it because he mixed a couple up :lol:

[its Jeanne-Marie]

ohhhh i get it now...yes i do understand the could/couldnt...you just confused me at first lol

and in general.....yes there and their...............even where and were...even though they're two different words
edit: don't forget they're!!!



and for the sake of all things holy, once and for all....it's spelled "definitely"

[V]

and in general.....yes there and their...............even where and were...even though they're two different words

However, their, there, and they're all sound the same when speaking. But where, were, and we're are all different sounding.


When i type fast, a lot of times I put letters too early in the word like "typign" instead of "typing" or "liek" istead of "like", and sometimes I type words and they end up like "event hough" instead of "even though". 99% of my mistakes are because i never learned proper typing skills and I'm all over the keyboard with both hands wherever I want. lol

[Savage_Messiah]

I do that too... but this was directed at using the correct form of the word.

I probably have typed "liek" MORE than "like" :lol:

[Savage_Messiah]

However, their, there, and they're all sound the same when speaking. But where, were, and we're are all different sounding.


When i type fast, a lot of times I put letters too early in the word like "typign" instead of "typing" or "liek" istead of "like", and sometimes I type words and they end up like "event hough" instead of "even though". 99% of my mistakes are because i never learned proper typing skills and I'm all over the keyboard with both hands wherever I want. lol

Your point exactly? :rofl:

[Teds89IROC]

haha Kasey beat me to it :lol: I can't stand when people say "I could care less"

~Ted

[V]

Kasey..see, i can spell, i just dont pay attention to my typing so sometimes i skip letters or rearrange them. its all good though. In my head i'm right and everyone knows what i mean. Oh and i dont like to capitalize "i" all the time because it takes too much effort.

[Savage_Messiah]

In my head i'm right and everyone knows what i mean.

You know you shouldn't refer to those voices as "everyone"... :razz:

[V]

"The voices in my head tell me not to listen to the voices in my head..what should i do...AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

[WayFast84]

"The voices in my head tell me not to listen to the voices in my head..what should i do...AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"Im sure I got some pills that will help yah with that :mrgreen:

[Rob WS6]

I saw that error too, Jim... I just didnt feel like saying anything at the time. :lol:

Oh and Jim, in the English language, its always a good idea to capitalize the first letter of each sentence. ;)

[misterjuice]

DERR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[qwikz28]

in a post, one that i didn't want to hijack because of the subject matter, you responded: "Couldn't of said it better myself."

it's a good response. however, it would be "couldn't've said", because what you are doing is making a contraction of three words: could not have. it's perfectly legal in english to make it like that, but you have to use the proper phrase. if you plan on going to college or technical school, then you'll likely take the SATs. that is a question on the test.

in one part, they ask you to identify problems or errors with sentences and, of the possible responses, one of them is "nothing wrong with this sentence (paraphrased)". they present a sentence comparable to the way you provided your response to the thread, and then provide four answers and the last one is "nothing wrong". hopefully, now you will get that question correct on the SATs, should you take them. if not, perhaps i won't see you making that mistake again? :mrgreen:

i am in no way flaming you or attacking you personally. this is an attempt to improve your written language skills. if it was in any other thread, i probably would've hijacked it, but the dude is feeling bad enough as it is without having someone appear to not be paying attention to his thread and hijacking it with something else instead.

p.s. i make mistakes when typing sometimes, too. i am far from perfect.
:stupid: matt maybe you should have your mom tutor you a bit. with the SAT coming around in a couple years you should start getting serious about getting into college.

[Brando56894]

eye kant buhleve ewe guise mayde a thred about thiss

[Savage_Messiah]

Brandon you really have way too much free time. Go read a book or something :lol:

[Brando56894]

eye kant reed

[JL8Jeff]

Kids!:scratch:

[turbo96z28]

i liek Bronows postes the bestest out of al the onse in thus thwed sooo fer.



and Bronow....lhuw aer you reedings thus thrwed if u kant reed

[Brando56894]

how do u get bronow out of brando? :lol: some of your stuff sounds nothing like the words it should be :-P and now to answer your question:

eye haf sum won reed itt two mea

[jims69camaro]

I saw that error too, Jim... I just didnt feel like saying anything at the time. :lol:

Oh and Jim, in the English language, its always a good idea to capitalize the first letter of each sentence. ;)

now, see, that's a stylistic choice as opposed to making an error. never in my life have i ever capitalized the first letter of every sentence (nor proper nouns, nor... you get the point) while typing anything other than business correspondence. it's a choice i made long ago and i like it. nothing else about my typing can be argued except for the occasional typo, because i did pay attention in english class - it was important to me. math, on the other hand...

[Brando56894]

teachers must of loved you back in school if u didnt capitalize anything....

[jims69camaro]

teachers must of loved you back in school if u didnt capitalize anything....

no, i am talking about after school. i wouldn't've passed any of my classes if i NEVER capitalized anything. sorry for the misunderstanding.

[turbo96z28]

how do u get bronow out of brando? :lol: some of your stuff sounds nothing like the words it should be :-P and now to answer your question:

eye haf sum won reed itt two mea


i just used keys closest to the right ones for the proper spelling :razz:

and about your awnser:


eye haf soem wun ree iit tuo mea tou!!!1111!!!one!!111!!!!

[Rob WS6]

I was just kidding around, but actually I think this could spark an intelligent debate! :)

Maybe I misunderstood your reasoning, but are you saying that capitalization is merely a stylistic choice as opposed to a rule of english grammar?

[Brando56894]

no, i am talking about after school. i wouldn't've passed any of my classes if i NEVER capitalized anything. sorry for the misunderstanding.

thats what i figured...

i just used keys closest to the right ones for the proper spelling

i guess that could work if the keys were in ABC order.....

[PBodyGT87]

My pet peeves of grammar. (and this will contain some vernacular, thank, so don't nitpick it, please. I'm just out to make points.)

Know the difference between "than" and "then", and use them correctly.
You're and Your.
Never double abbreviate words. "Couldn't've said it better" is completely incorrect, thought that's how we say it, that is not how one would write it. You have to pick the "not" abbreviation or spell it out. "Couldn't have", or "Could not have".

Also, properly written highschool-to-college level papers are not to contain abbreviations at all. If you would like to say "wouldn't" you must say "would not". (can't - cannot, don't - do not, haven't - have not, etc.) As well, avoid using the word "you" when refering to the reader. Use "one" instead, so that the next time one writes a paper, one gets an A.

I before E except after C.

Tip: Try to avoid using the word "it" in a paper, use it only once. This makes the writing more colorful when items are described by their nature or by their formal name. Also, never being a sentence with the same word more than once, and come up with several different ways of describing something, so that, again, your writing is more colorful. It makes a paper look far more intelligent.

Any time you feel there needs to be a pause or a breath, it probably needs a comma there.


okay i'm done it's too early in the morning for this....

[turbo96z28]

(waiting for someone to find the mistakes in last post)


:popcorn:

[badzracing]

My pet peeves of grammar. (and this will contain some vernacular, thank, so don't nitpick it, please. I'm just out to make points.)


I before E except after C.



okay i'm done it's too early in the morning for this.... My last name is ZEIgler. My pet peeve is when just about all of my mail is addressed to David ZIEgler. In conclusion, I is not always before E except after C. Thank you; that is all.

[BonzoHansen]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/SIBLY/Emos/emot-eng101.gifThis old schoolroom spelling rule is supposed to help remember
the spelling of vowels pronounced /i:/, the long "e" sound of "feed".
It has no value for words where the vowel is pronounced in any other
way, the key fact which people bemused by many "exceptions" to the
rule usually do not realise. A version often cited in the U.K.
makes the restriction clear:

When the sound is /i:/,
it's I before E
except after C.

A common U.S. version:

...
or when pronounced /eI/
as in "neighbour" and "weigh".

is misleading, as "ei" has many other pronunciations, as in, for
instance, "height", "heifer", and "forfeit". The rule also fails to
apply to names (Sheila, Keith, Leigh, etc.).

"I before E": Properly applied, the rule is a very useful guide for
people who are not naturally excellent spellers; those who are may
look out for themselves. To an RP speaker, the exceptions in common
use are very few: they are "seize", "inveigle", "caffeine",
"protein", and "codeine". (The last three were originally
pronounced as three-syllable words.) Other dialects pronounce a few
other -ei- words with /i:/, making extra exceptions: "either" and
"neither" (RP vowel: /aI/, as in "pie"), "geisha" and "sheik(h)"
(RP: /eI/, as in "say"), and "leisure" (RP: /E/, as in "get"). (Of
course, derivatives of the above words, such as "seizure",
"decaffeinate", and "sheik(h)dom", are spelled similarly.) There
are many exceptions in Scots, so speakers with a large Scots
vocabulary may as well give up on this rule. The vowel in "weir"
and "weird" is usually quite different, as comparison of "weird" and
"weed" will show; for most speakers, "weird" has a diphthong.

"except after C": Fowler, who called the rule "very useful", noted:
"The c exception covers the many derivatives of Latin capio
[= "take"], which are in such common use (receive, deceit,
inconceivable; cf. relieve, belief, irretrievable) that a
simple rule of thumb is necessary." For most Britons, /i:/ after C
is always "ei" rather than "ie", except in "specie" and "species".
Americans generally pronounce -cies and -cied in words derived from
-cy endings (e.g., "fancies" and "fancied" from "fancy") with /i:/
rather than /I/, making these words exceptions. Still, few people
have any difficulty pluralizing -y, so such speakers should still be
able to extract some value from the rule, by the application of a
little common sense.

[PBodyGT87]

My last name is ZEIgler. My pet peeve is when just about all of my mail is addressed to David ZIEgler. In conclusion, I is not always before E except after C. Thank you; that is all.

Grammar doesn't apply to names, most of the time, because they aren't part of the English language. Names are often derivitives of other languages, and unless your name can be defined in a dictionary, it's not necessarily a "real word" in the English language. My last name is Pelikan. So, is it spelled wrong? Not for my name it isn't. Grammatical rules are not meant to be applied to names. But that's unfortunate that everyone spells your's wrong, hahaha. It'd be my pet peeve too if I were in your position.

[PBodyGT87]

Anyone who has a natural knack for spelling things knows that there are exceptions to every rule. ;)

[Savage_Messiah]

Grammar doesn't apply to names, most of the time, because they aren't part of the English language. Names are often derivitives of other languages, and unless your name can be defined in a dictionary, it's not necessarily a "real word" in the English language. My last name is Pelikan. So, is it spelled wrong? Not for my name it isn't. Grammatical rules are not meant to be applied to names. But that's unfortunate that everyone spells your's wrong, hahaha. It'd be my pet peeve too if I were in your position.


Yes it is! Go back to antarctica!!! :lol:

[Brando56894]

I before E except after C.

this still isnt 100% true with names aside there are words in the english dictionary that don't abide by this rule. i cant think of any though...

[jims69camaro]

I was just kidding around, but actually I think this could spark an intelligent debate! :)

Maybe I misunderstood your reasoning, but are you saying that capitalization is merely a stylistic choice as opposed to a rule of english grammar?

no, it's one i choose not to use, as opposed to being ignorant of the rule. i am not unknowing or trying to disprove the rules in my approach to english and grammar. but i do decide not to apply some of the rules. kind of like the lutherans and the catholic church.

i attempt to apply all rules when writing business correspondence. i even employ a spelling and grammar checker, as i am not omniscient, either.