ROLL CALL for cam and header install!!!

[WayFast84]

sat. march 11 my house for cam and header install!! Pm me for details about my adress and phone number.

so far I got like 3 maybes..

whos in?
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I had this post in central jersey section, but its basically really confusing, and I would like the whole sight to see it basically,mod's feel free to delete this post, but please dont!

thanks
matt

[qwikz28]

you cant copy the grease trucks roll call!!!

[WayFast84]

you cant copy the grease trucks roll call!!!
I did and please keep this thread on topic!! Im serious!! I need this done and all the help I can get!! theirs deffinatly no way I can afford to have a mechanic install them now, and i allready payed for dynoday...,.:cry:

[Savage_Messiah]

I'll know by later tonight if I'll be around or not

[2001orangess]

sorry i'll be dropping the motor in my car that day

[Savage_Messiah]

sorry to hijack but RJ, the 240?

[misterjuice]

I'll be dropping a twin turbo Viper motor in my Aerio that day, so I will be busy........

[turbo96z28]

wish i could make it, but i'll be at a wedding in PA.

[79CamaroDiva]

if it was a 2nd gen I could help ya out, on a 3rd gen i'll probably just be in the way. Me and computers dont get along.

[Koll]

Not I.

[trashman01]

matt, best amount of ppl for that type of job is 2, cuz anymore and it just makes it worst, trust me

[slasherbarb]

wish i could but i will be on the west coast...good luck though

[WayFast84]

matt, best amount of ppl for that type of job is 2, cuz anymore and it just makes it worst, trust mewell any one really cause I have no freaking clue about anything...I could prolly do headers but it would take months :lol:

[WayFast84]

FREE FOOD!!!

[Brando56894]

yea atfirst i thought this was about the trucks lol

[trashman01]

well any one really cause I have no freaking clue about anything...I could prolly do headers but it would take months :lol:
that **** is brainless work, try building a motor. thats alot more invovled, hell i did that same **** ur doing to my old 83 t/a in my own garage bymyself when i was 16 and didnt kno ****, cept for the fact that u can shoot fireballs out the carb:lol: :rofl:

[Savage_Messiah]

Sorry, I won't be around.

[bad64chevelle]

wont know until tomorrow morning whether or not I have alot to do on the Challenger. Definitely will let you know though!

[WayFast84]

Ok If I can get 1 person hear tomorrow I will be happy, their will be no way we will be able to finish though so, next saturday march 18!! as well as tomorrow! tomorrow If a person comes headers is my goal!

[Tsar]

ill be in florida on the beach

[WayFast84]

ill be in florida on the beach
No one cares...I stated above lets please keep it on topic..:?

[Tsar]

No one cares...I stated above lets please keep it on topic..:?
1. i care
2. who are you to tell me what to do you little useless kid
3. how does it feel when someone puts useless **** in your thread?

[WayFast84]

1. i care
2. who are you to tell me what to do you little useless kid
3. how does it feel when someone puts useless **** in your thread?:rofl: thats funny Im me and screw you...

[Tsar]

:rofl: thats funny Im me and screw you...
i can just keep posting in this stupid thread untill i get tired of it you know

only a few more posts untill 2000

[WayFast84]

then keep the hell posting in it I dont give a **** any more, your an ass hole, everyone knows it.. post away

[Tsar]

you better install your headers before sunday cuz its suppose to rain, but with your "knowledge" i doubt you'll be even half way done

[Tsar]

then keep the hell posting in it I dont give a **** any more, your an ass hole, everyone knows it.. post away
im proud of my ******* attitude, thank you very much. oh and im only an ******* to people i dont like

[WayFast84]

im proud of my ******* attitude, thank you very much. oh and im only an ******* to people i dont like
You dont like verry many people do you?!? you need some prozac or somethin

[Firebirdgm2000]

Even though i'm around Edison and can do it i'm too busy installing WS-6 badges on my car can't make it! Sorry :wink:

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16052

[Tsar]

You dont like verry many people do you?!? you need some prozac or somethin
no not really, i can count my true friends on my one hand. i keep everyone at a safe distance, more people you know = bigger chance they will **** you over. you'll learn that later in your life.

[Tru2Chevy]

Everyone calm down, back to the topic at hand....

- Justin

[unstable bob gable]

And then the peasants danced!

[Koll]

Umm. I like Tsar way more than you. Im sure most people do.

I dont like you.

And that "OMG KOLL IS CRAP" is old when used as an actual put down and not in teh funny.

[79CamaroDiva]

omg.. koll = crap!

;)

[Savage_Messiah]

koll = megacrap

[Ian]

everyone....sit down and shut up! you wanna make fun of eachother, do it in the buddy list thread.

And let me also be the first to congratulate you mouth-breathers on picking on a 14 year old who was asking for some ****ing help! you're a real benefit to society :roll:

BACK ON TOPIC!!
I can't help you out this weekend. The water pump in my Jeep is in the process of taking a poop, so thats what I'll be doing :(

[Koll]

And let me also be the first to congratulate you mouth-breathers on picking on a 14 year old who was asking for some ****ing help! you're a real benefit to society :roll:

Thank you.

[unstable bob gable]

everyone....sit down and shut up! you wanna make fun of eachother, do it in the buddy list thread.

And let me also be the first to congratulate you mouth-breathers on picking on a 14 year old who was asking for some ****ing help! you're a real benefit to society :roll:

BACK ON TOPIC!!
I can't help you out this weekend. The water pump in my Jeep is in the process of taking a poop, so thats what I'll be doing :(


Anybody who uses the phrase "mouth breathers" is A-OK in my book!

[WayFast84]

so no ones coming?..

[Savage_Messiah]

Well, I overslept so now I'm a possibility lol... but I'd be useless for a cam install

[WayFast84]

What about for headers?

[Savage_Messiah]

Yea... I left a message on your voicemail

[misterjuice]

sorry i'm at work all day....

[jims69camaro]

Anybody who uses the phrase "mouth breathers" is A-OK in my book!

lmao... your favorite catch all phrase for anyone and everyone...

next weekend.

[WayFast84]

Ight looks like next week end will be the intake and cam install!!! whos available then? lol

[WayFast84]

still need help...got about 8 bolts out..6 of them werent even involved with the manifolds...

[WayFast84]

:-x :cry: im doin some what good I got a lot of bolts off but I cant get a few espesially the alt... i need some help!! I have some what of an idea, just not enough:scratch:

[WayFast84]

Can some one come over tonight, or tomorrow to help me? I got about 65% of the bolts off,I need to get the alt off and theirs some other isues..

[WayFast84]

ughhhh!!!! i cant get the freeakin y pipe bolts off!! Im basically done untill I can either a. get some air tools or b get some help...

[Rob WS6]

<---deadtrend1

Get a half inch drive set and snap the fockers. Being 21 year old exhaust, its typical for them to be rusted.

[bad64chevelle]

You dont like verry many people do you?!? you need some prozac or somethin
:funny:
And Im sorry about today I started on the Challenger at 8am and when I went to bleed the brakes in the front I notived the bleeder screw had been broken off clean and someone tried to take it out previously. Well If you have ever had to find a part for a 33 year old car on a saturday its damn near impossible but after about 65 phone calls I fount a pair of front calipers for the car and it took 3 hours for the shop to get them. Once I got the brakes on/bled I had to test drive it. On the test drive I noticed the thing was way out of tune so I took it back and noticed the timing was set at almost 30* when its supposed to be around 10*. After I got the timing set My eyes were burning from the car running so rich so a little adjustment of the carb I was back on the road. Two miles down the road all of a sudden I just see smoke and then my steering got tight. I blew a power steering hose so that was another set back. But Around 445 it was on the road and all is good. Sorry that I couldnt be there but I had to get this car working for my dad today. If you need any help with anything PM me and if anything ill walk you through some things!

[WayFast84]

Its ok.

Looks like next week I will need a ton of help!!! Please guys!! I need this **** done for dyno day!! I have all the parts!!

[JL8Jeff]

I wish I could've given you a hand but I was working on my 96, my truck, my boat and doing yard work yesterday. When working on an older car you have to plan on things being rusted in place, nuts/bolts breaking and the need to hacksaw something. So you need to give yourself a good 2-4 weeks to get things done. My header install took me over a month because it was cold and I found there were parts I didn't have and decided I wanted to swap out as I was going. And now I have a header leak so I'll need to get a new gasket. Don't rush yourself just so you can take the car to dyno day. If you do something wrong or do more damage it could end up costing a lot to fix right. I've been working on cars for 20+ years and I've never dyno'd a car so take your time and don't worry about the dyno thing. The guys who want to do the dyno should be the ones helping you since you're on the list.

[WayFast84]

thanks for the advice, I cant locate some bolts, and I cant get one bolt off cause it has a bolt in the back that I cant grab cause my tools wont fit behind it. I also need help getting the alt off, Im 60 percent positive I can do the headers my self, I just need the guidence to know that Im doing it right so I dont screw up..

[deadtrend1]

yea man, dont rush it. I may not even be going to dyno day now after my clutch burned friday night at atco on my cars 4th run. If you need help Instant message me and I can give you advice.

[WayFast84]

**** it...I give the **** up!!

[deadtrend1]

dude, stop with this I cant ****. If i gave up and said i cant do something, my car would be sitting in my driveway with no rear end, and a motor that cant run because it had no headers on it. Mine were 10x more a bitch to do cause there is no room on the sides.

There is always a way to do it, just gotta find it. don't get discouraged, don't give up. if you get pissed, take a break, go inside watch tv and drink a pepsi. Then go back out and try again...

[V]

Do you have a new y pipe? will the headers fit the stock y pipe? i had flow tech headerts and they sell a special y-pipe to use with them for 3rd gens. if you dont need the stock y pipe, get a sawzall and just cut it off.

Look at it this way, at least youll only be doing it once(for the most part) and its easier than ls1 headers IMO.... i did headers in my SS back in Aug, not the most fun job to do but not terriably hard, BUT now i gotta take them back off and put the manifolds back on. talk about a kick in the ass.

[WayFast84]

I have new y pipe, I dont want to go cutting things Untill I am 100% sure I can do it, and right now Im not, If I cut into things and I couldnt do It..My car would be a waste of time and money, because their Is no way in hell I could pay a mechanic to fix it, hence why I wanted to have people come over and help me, as well as show me how to do some things, and then feed them in return or some thing...

[WayFast84]

Heres my deal, I will buy dinner to every single person who helps, Im not talking about ordering pizza, Im talking about an actuall resteraunt!

[Ian]

listen, I wouldnt mind helping you out, but the way it sounds, you could have been working on it all weekend by yourself. I know you dont know much about cars yet, but you can at least start taking it apart. I didnt have my dad hold my hand every step of the way, but when I got stumped I'd ask for help. Just start taking it apart by yourself. this way if something breaks, you wont have to rush around trying to find a part last minute.

Besides, we all said we would help you out, not do it for you. I'd do it for you all by myself, but I'd charge you just like a shop would. One thing you have to learn is that things do go wrong when working on a car, but that doesnt mean you should be afraid to break a few things while wrenching. This sounds harsh, but instead of posting here about how you "give up" you should be outside taking your car apart.

[WayFast84]

I did work on it...I got about 6 bolts off..the fan shroud off, and the air cleaner off...I know it doesnt sound like much...and how much would you charge to do headers cam and intake ; )

[TransAm619]

matt.. considering how god damn bored ive been lately.. and how i myself miss my thirdgen..and dont live too far from ya i would love to help. but to be completly honest.. i would def be more in the way that an actual help. sorry if this seems like a useless post but hey, its been a while since ive said anything on here :)

-Adam
"TransAm19"

[WayFast84]

Its all right any help would be good help I guess,

Update!!

I was using the wrong sized wrench...got the right one and it was bangin on the air tube, I removed the air tube but my flash light died...

[Ian]

I did work on it...I got about 6 bolts off..the fan shroud off, and the air cleaner off...I know it doesnt sound like much...and how much would you charge to do headers cam and intake ; )

45 bucks an hour.

[WayFast84]

WOOOTT!!!!

this is the sun of bitch!!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/Picture207.jpg

[Savage_Messiah]

when using a camera it is optimal to not move until it is done taking the picture :lol: but congrats on finding it

[WayFast84]

45 bucks an hour.
I got 31 bucks :cry:

[Ian]

I'll work for 40 minutes then :)

[WayFast84]

when using a camera it is optimal to not move until it is done taking the picture :lol: but congrats on finding it
Nah its cause the flash is off..I dont know how to turn it back on..long story

[WayFast84]

I'll work for 40 minutes then :)
:rollseye: How about you like losten up all the bolts for me then I stop the stop watch then I do the rest, when I need help you help and the clock starts again/!?

[deadtrend1]

see, i told you to stop with the i cant crap...

[Ian]

:rollseye: How about you like losten up all the bolts for me then I stop the stop watch then I do the rest, when I need help you help and the clock starts again/!?

How about you do the whole thing yourself! tear into it. if you break something, its not a big deal. you're either very afraid of working on your car and messing up or you're very lazy.

I replaced the water pump on my Jeep on saturday when I got out of work. I have never done a water pump on a cherokee before, but I didnt go asking a bunch of questions on a jeep message board, I just went out there and started taking everything apart. I put the new pump on and bolted everything back together and started to fill the coolant back up when I saw it was leaking a lot! no big deal, I just took it all apart again, saw that the gasket had gotten messed up, went out and got a new gasket and put it back together.

even when things dont go as planned, its always fixable. snap a bolt off in the block or head? go buy some easy outs, get the rest of the bolt out and re-tap the hole. I'd be more than happy to help you out if you run into a problem, but if you just want someone there to do all the work for you, I'm not down for that. sorry for this little reality check, but asking other people to do that amount of work for you is really lame.

[WayFast84]

Im not asking for people to do the whole thing for me..If I was I wouldnt have even started doing it...

[Ian]

not to sound like a jerk, but how far did you get this weekend? did you get the exhaust dropped? did you take all the accessories off the front of the motor? drain the coolant and take the radiator out? If you really want to get this done before dyno day, you're gonna have to tear this thing down pretty fast.

[WayFast84]

take the radiater out? gotcha!! Im a go do that LOL!

[78camaro]

you know what you really need go spend that 31$ you got on a good ol' haynes manual and like ian said go right at it, i was afraid like you but i just started ripping **** apart and puttign it back together take alot of pictures when takign stuff apart so you have a referance to go back to if you dotn remember you learn alot on your own i still dotn know so much but ive come along way from doign it on my own and just reading articles and **** its all a learning process

[WayFast84]

I got a haynes manual...Its like pointless....


How do you drain a radiater? I got like all the bolts holding the radiater on but 2..I need to jack the car up again..lol.

[Ian]

there should be a drain on the bottom right or bottom left. if there isnt, just pull off the lower radiator hose.

[WayFast84]

there should be a drain on the bottom right or bottom left. if there isnt, just pull off the lower radiator hose.
Gotchyah thanks alot man, and everyone else!! Im actually confident about pulling the radiater!! :bow:

[78camaro]

i hope your keeping all the screws together nice n neat, how is a haynes manual useless???

[unstable bob gable]

Not for nothing...but installing a cam isn't really a walk in the park job. Are you planning on just slapping it in, or doing it the right way and degreeing it?
If I were you I'd stick with some basic bolt ons to get your skills up, and then worry about things like cams...

[Savage_Messiah]

UBG, that's exactly why he wants help

[WayFast84]

UBG, that's exactly why he wants help:nod:

[WayFast84]

:x
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/Picture209.jpg :shock: Thats why i need help......

[V]

u should have gottem a catch/drain pan. lol, just because theres a vale to drain the antifreeze, doesnt mean it comes out right there, it WILL run all along the lower rad support and drip/pour everywhere.

[Savage_Messiah]

Got cat litter or something for that?

[BonzoHansen]

This is one strange thread….

[deadtrend1]

This is one strange thread….

tell me about it.

[oh one ls1 SS]

Got cat litter or something for that?

who needs cat litter when u have a dead cat? im sure thats one of the 101 uses for one

[ar0ck]

news paper works as well, just lots of it... Also if you know any Fire Department people I think you can go to any firehouse and get a few scoops of the stuff they use for accidents for free. Thats what I used with my old T/A

[WayFast84]

Ok so I like did every thing I could..still cant get the radiater out..Im gonna try to get the las manifold bolt off the passanger side when I find my paintball gun so I can use the barrel for my leverage...Can people please come over to help me?!?Like sat.? I need this done!! and Im trying my best!!

[Savage_Messiah]

As long as I don't have work again and someones going who has better tools than me... and necessary tools for that matter... ill go

[V]

Why cant you get the radiator out? it has the 10mm bolts up top, the middle and lower fan shroud bolts, upper rad hose, lower rad hose, over flow hose, maybe a heater hose, and 2 trans line fittings...then it just slides up and out.

[Firebirdgm2000]

Ok so I like did every thing I could..still cant get the radiater out..Im gonna try to get the las manifold bolt off the passanger side when I find my paintball gun so I can use the barrel for my leverage...Can people please come over to help me?!?Like sat.? I need this done!! and Im trying my best!!

i'm debating i live like 5 mins away...

[oh one ls1 SS]

i'm debating i live like 5 mins away...

dont be gay..just help the kid

i would but i no **** about how to do that

[WayFast84]

Ight I tried to get the last bolt off(i think It was the last bolt) how ever Its stripped and I cant get the air tubes off and outa the way to use a vice grip...

[Mike]

instructions :
1. pick up vice grip
2. step back from the vehicle
3. turn towards nearest trash can
4. place vice grip in can
5. find proper tool for the job

[trashman01]

damn matt, i wasnt that bad, as for the cam, unless u running a really hight lift(which i doubt) u dont have to degree it, when u put it in, just make sure the timing chain marks are lined up.and make sure u use alot of assemble lube and the car goes right to 2000K for rpms to break it in since its a flat tappet cam. if u need more help, call my cell 203-313-9050

[WayFast84]

Got the radiater out today! who can help me on sat.?

[WayFast84]

CMON GUYS!!! I really need the help!! I got a week! and the car is in peices!

[WayFast84]

wow a haynes manual is being usefull...to bad I still need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it says I need to remove my ac?!?! Im about to cry...I hate cars!

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

oh gosh removing the ac you minus well light the car on fire cus its so hard!
sarcasm is presant in the last sentence! having people over really dosnt do you anygood. trust me, just look at justins car everytime we try to get soemthing done there is so much talking goin on nothing ever gets done just do it yourself!

[BigAls87Z28]

Well, I guess Ill help you on either monday or tuesday.

[WayFast84]

Well, I guess Ill help you on either monday or tuesday.
Thanks man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PM me what day and Ill give yah my address and phone number!
thanks man I really apreciate this!!

Matt

[Savage_Messiah]

If it's Monday I may be able to help. Let me know or call me.

[BigAls87Z28]

Kasey, call me and let me know when you are ready, then we can work something out with Matt.

[Savage_Messiah]

I'm free all day and I will be up from 7:30 AM on. I have a package to ship out and some money to deposit int he bank, and hopefully a haircut to get, between 8 and whatever time I finish that all.

[Savage_Messiah]

I'm up... I'll be up... call me and let me know what's up.

[Savage_Messiah]

gah... I have allergy shots at 3:30... nevermind, I guess

[WayFast84]

Im home from school. Kasey that sucks!! Shot's in general suck!

[Savage_Messiah]

I get 5 of em but theyre not bad... its just being in teh middle of the day that sucks.

[Tru2Chevy]

Im home from school.

So is Al still coming over to give you a hand?

- Justin

[WayFast84]

I dont know? Havent heard from him.

[deadtrend1]

if you need help over the weekend, i may be able to swing something. Do you have all the **** you need?

[WayFast84]

if you need help over the weekend, i may be able to swing something. Do you have all the **** you need?
yeah, cept gasket scraper or what ever and sat. is dynoday

[Tru2Chevy]

yeah, cept gasket scraper or what ever

Flathead screwdriver, razorblades, and some patience, that's all you need.

- Justin

[Ian]

small vice grips and a razor blade make an excellent gasket scraper 8)

[BigAls87Z28]

sorry, ran around a lot today for work and home. Im freeish tomorrow, so PM me and let me know.

[bokey]

Matt, I know it can be overwhelming to work on an engine for your first time. If I were you I wouldn't of set a date for when you HAD to be done. This just puts more stress on you and makes it less enjoyable. How far are you along so far. Make sure you do ONE THING AT A TIME!!! I screwed up plenty of things by doing that. Once you take something off make sure you keep it together and kinda hook stuff back up how it was on your motor.

Also Matt, instead of freaking out about help and everything, you should of been posting your questions a while back about what you had to do, and in what order, etc. At least you know what to do now.

Sure your only 14, and new to everything, but you can do it. All you gotta do is put your mind to it. A perfect example is what I did last weekend I pulled a motor and trans out of a MG that threw a bearing. This is how far we got (keep in mind that it was not painted dull and not moving at all):
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/mattbokey/Image005.jpg

You can do ANYTHING bro, you just gotta put your mind to it. Just do one thing at a time and you'll be kosher. IMO, I would see if mama dukes can give you the money back for dyno day and expalined what happened. This way you don't feel so rushed and what not to get all the **** done.

[WayFast84]

tomorrow that damn manifold bolt is coming out!!



hopefully :roll:

[turbo96z28]

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!

[WayFast84]

I didnt get it out... :cry:

[deadtrend1]

I didnt get it out... :cry:

i hate it when that happens, sorry about last weekend. I got tied up with all kinds of things i had to get done here.

[BigAls87Z28]

PB Blaster is your friend. It does all the work for you!!

[turbo96z28]

PB Blaster is your friend. It does all the work for you!!



QFT!

[Savage_Messiah]

PB blaster FTW...

[WayFast84]

I got it out!!! woot!!! now It looks like I have the verry last one (in the back) and then all I have to do is figure out how to get the alt off and then It will be free!

[Tru2Chevy]

The alt. is only held on with 2 bolts....

- Justin

[WayFast84]

The alt. is only held on with 2 bolts....

- Justin
I got the one off that affiliates with the manifold. It will take me another month to get the other 2.. :cry:

[WayFast84]

tt

I need help installing my headers, thats right headers only. it should take abou 2 1/2 hours(im guessing)

[Mike]

sooo you ripped everything apart and THEN changed your mind? lol

[Tsar]

sooo you ripped everything apart and THEN changed your mind? lol
kids :lol:

[unstable bob gable]

kids :lol:

BOOM! POW! SLAM! CRACK! CRUNCH! BA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
Massive blows to the dome!!!

[WayFast84]

got the alt. off i need to clean up and find a 16mm deep socket to contiue.