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[Brando56894]

yea im thinkin about tryin a few major linux distros again cuz kubuntu is giving me slight problems. im downloading SuSE 10.0 dvd right now and has anyone ever tried mandriva? i used mandrake a lil bit back in the day but dont remember it much...

any recommendations?

[project89]

ive used mandrivia,mandrake with new name is all,everything is still pretty much the same ,im still partial to mdk 10.1 community over the new versions though

[bad64chevelle]

okay im lost.

[turbo96z28]

:stupid:

[Savage_Messiah]

I use windows XP and it works fine, all you techno geeks say it sucks but run into all these problems using other things... :shrug:

[Brando56894]

yea i dont feel like paying the $75-100 for mandriva then having to pay a monthly subscription fee to get the updates, thats the reason i stopped using it in the first place. and as for windows xp, theres wayy to much daily maintence that need to be done with it and the stupid clean access thing wont let me on...

[Savage_Messiah]

I don't do any daily maintenence on mine. I do liek semi annual maintanence lol

[Brando56894]

and its prolly like slow as balls isnt it?

[project89]

linux = teh pwn. lmao brando just stick with the 10.x version and setup an online update database and it will automatically update itself

[Brando56894]

but the basic one doesnt come with GCC or anything so u gotta go out and hunt for it dont u? also i didnt see a way that you could freely download it

[project89]

it comes with everything

http://www.linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=29

goto that page and download version 10.1

[Brando56894]

i knew there was the english site! i went to linuxiso.com and it brought me to the outdated german site :lol: its gonna take me forever to download it right now for the suse 10.1 dvd iso its gonna take me around 50 hours, stupid college internet......

[project89]

lmao (hugs his 10mb down and 1.5mb up)

[WildBillyT]

I've run RedHat 7.3 on my web server for years and it has never given me any problems.

http://www.opengroup.org/products/publications/graphics/n910cov.jpg

[Savage_Messiah]

and its prolly like slow as balls isnt it?

If you recall correctly my computer and iternet is faster than yours...

[bad64chevelle]

Rutgers internet is slow.

[turbo96z28]

If you recall correctly my computer and iternet is faster than yours...

:stupid:


i've never had any problems with my XP, and most of my friends switched over to it after seeing how quick my comp ran.

[Brando56894]

i doubt your computer is faster then mine but i can see how your internet is faster then mine considering that each dorm is pretty much its own seperate network and the towers are like 2x the size of century

[Koll]

Mandrake, Debian or Redhat FTW

[GP99GT]

ive been using XP for a couple years...if you dont suck at computers, it wont get slow. and you dont have to "clean it" every day. ive never had XP get corrupted, slow, or anything like that, unless it was a hardware problem.

[bokey]

I would say go with Red Hat. It's probably your best bet; for the most part it is stable and robust as hell.

I have Red Hat ver. 9 or 10 at my house. If you’re interested I can burn you a copy and mail it to ya.

[Tru2Chevy]

XP is great....considering it's Windows.

I'm digging OS X more and more as time goes on. And having the terminal to play with is very nice :)

Anywho...Once H3idi is back up and running I'm prolly gonna try FreeBSD. I used it some in college and enjoyed it greatly.

- Justin

[Brando56894]

from what ive heard debian is a PITA to install, well essentially i am running debian, just in the form of kubuntu. i tried red hat back in the day (version 7) and didnt really like it that much, i dont think i would use it since they discontinued it so they could work on fedora. i had suse about 10% downloaded and my computer was acting stupid and crashed so i had to restart it :(

[bokey]

That sucks, if you want to you could try sending me the link that your trying to download from. At work, I was able to download all 4 Fedora DVD iso's w/o an issue. It only took about a half a day too 8)

[Brando56894]

i started the download for the mandrake dvd iso lastnight when i got back from the trucks and let it go all night, when i woke up this afternoon it was done. so i burned the iso and then had to fight with this POS Abit IS7 mobo (which i thought was decent, definately switching back to my Asus board once i get the bios reflashed) to get it to boot the dvd. i had to disable the boot of the HDD then put it in the master cd/dvd burner and then it proceeded and then gave me an error that it couldnt uncompress the 2nd stage ramdrive and told me that it wa most likely a hardware error. i gave up and i figure ill try it when i swap mobos

[Tru2Chevy]

http://www.freebsd.org/

- Justin

[Brando56894]

if i read it right freeBSD is unix not linux right?

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, it's based on the BSD Unix developed at Berkeley.

- Justin

[Brando56894]

hmmm, never tried "pure" unix before..... it says it runs programs built for linux, so thats a plus. as long as all the commands and everything are the same i should be good...

[project89]

its_a_lil_diff_not_all_linux_stuff_runs_on_bsd
though_there_is_good_support-for_bsd

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, there are some differences, but that's just like the differences between all the different flavors of *nix.

Most software built for Linux is *nix compatible, but there will always be a few that stand out.

I say you try it and see how you like it.

- Justin

[Brando56894]

yea im trying to download it now but theire ftp servers are being stupid...

[Brando56894]

im currently trying to find where they have the iso hidden at on their ftp server.... kinda makin me mad...

edit: nevermind! firefox didnt load the entire /pub directory last time, its in the root of /pub

[project89]

bsd_is_really_nice_for_use_as_a_server

[Brando56894]

so ive heard

[Tru2Chevy]

Brandon, check this out: http://caffeine.nu/

This is my buddies site, he's the one that turned me on to BSD in college. Click on the link labeled "Boxen" to see his computer collection...

- Justin

[Brando56894]

at the bottom of the page theres on of those test things and this one is "what is your souls trait?" if kasey did it it would prolly say "you are a fidget, you have no soul. go away!" :lol:

[Brando56894]

wow he has some old ass computers... the SPARC is only 40mhz! :rofl:

edit: christ its taking forever and a day to download freebsd! :mad:

[Brando56894]

finally downloaded it but this motherboard is a total POS, its so hard to boot from a cd compared to my Asus boards, plus ive had errors with alot of the installs :mad:

[JW]

Gimme KNOPPIX anyday by far one of my favorites!

JW :D

[turbo96z28]

finally downloaded it but this motehrboard is a total POS, its so hard to boot from a cd compared to my Asus boards, plus ive had errors with alot of teh installs :mad:


i'm so glad i got your ASUS ;-)

[Brando56894]

yea they make great Mobos but theyre (recent) customer service sucks ass, i gotta send them the bios chip for my p4c800-e so i can take this POS out and sell it. you want another one billy? :D

and to JW, the only knoppix ive ever really used was Knoppix STD (security tools distro) and i thought that was good, today i just tried PHLAK (pro. hackers linux assult kit) and its about 20x better then Knoppix STD. its based off of a debian live distro, idk what its called though

[Brando56894]

it seems FreeBSD doesnt like USB keyboards. i told it to load with the usb drivers and it didnt work so i figured it was this stupid mobo, then i went home and tried it and the same thing happened :(

[Tru2Chevy]

:google:

http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/04.10.shtml

- Justin

[Brando56894]

thanks bro, but i dont think i can edit the kernel args cuz this happens even before anything is even installed (the keyboard doesnt work on the second color screen that pops up)

[GrandmasterCow]

Use Fedora Core 4, it used to be the free Red Hat distrobution. Mandrake is good also to give it a shot. ive worked with many of these linux distros for about 8 or 9 years so far.

[Brando56894]

i guess i cant try fedora again, i used core 3 and wasnt that impressed....

[Tru2Chevy]

thanks bro, but i dont think i can edit the kernel args cuz this happens even before anything is even installed (the keyboard doesnt work on the second color screen that pops up)

I guess they count on you having access to a ps/2 for setup purposes....

- Justin

[Brando56894]

guess so, even though the no. 7 option on the screen says something that amounts to "use USB keyboard" and it recognizes it but it wont work :confused: i had half of FC5 downloaded (the dvd) then the stupid internet here decided to kick me off and make me reauthenticate :mad: so i just decided to download the dapper drake beta (kubuntu 6.06) and see if it will run any better then what i have on here now idk if its the distro screwin up or the mobo bein ******...

[Tru2Chevy]

I think I'm gonna fire up my old box tonight and get some Ubuntu action going on. I've been without *nix for too long....

- Justin

[Brando56894]

yea its pretty good, i tried the dapper drake live install method (it runs from a live cd and boots in kde (for kubuntu) or gnome (for ubuntu) but it takes forever and a day to load and the installation program crashes after step three :(

I'd say go with Breezy Badger since its stable, idk if the distros "health" was degrading or just that POS mobo was being ****** or a combo of the two. Like 2 days ago it started acting stupid, and it would say stuff like "sudo: must be SUID root" or something like that, then yesterday it started happening each time i would use kdesu or sudo. eventually i couldnt run anything.

so i decided to reinstall the stupid thing and that wouldnt work. then i tried to switch out the motherboards and that worked but there was no sound (i ****ed up the bios by using a beta version from asus) so i switched back to the abit mobo and now it doesnt work at all. :mad: first it would tell me that there wasnt a controller on ide channel 2 (wtf is a controller??) so i unplugged one of the cd drives and got rid of that error, then i rebooted and got the cpu bad checksum error and it was liek defaults loaded hit f1 continue or del to enter cmos, but the freakin keyboard wouldnt work! :evil: so here i am in the freakin lounge, and a dead computer in my room.

i could get the bios reflashed for like $5 but i have to send it back to asus and it could take forever for them to get it back here (the semester ends on the 13th) or i could buy an AMD 64 x2, a new mobo, and new ram :D the question is what do u think i should do?? my **** IS kinda old and needs an update :D the newest thing i have is the 3.2ghz processer my dad got me for christmas... im about to price these things out. what do u think is a good board to go with? i'm thinkin about goin with one of the asus mid range boards...

[Tru2Chevy]

Gotta get away from that intel stuff man....AMD 64 X2s are were it's at. :D

- Justin

[Brando56894]

very true, but then i was thinkin about it lastnight ill be spending about $4-500 if i get the amd64 x2 since i would need the processor (im gettin the 3800 since its the cheapest) which is about $250 i think, the asus mobo i was looking at (the one before the nvidia SLI) was about $100, i would most likely need new ram so that an easy $1-200 right there, and i was wondering this do the new boards of AGP slots? i dont think they do since PCI-E x16 is kinda becomming the standard. so theres another $1-200 right there (unless it has integrated video, which i could live with for a lil while) so thats around $500 right there! i need to give bill $200 for the tune, mufflex $30 for the W/B bung, had to drop $160 cuz my ****en car got towed from willy p, and I still have to pay for that stupid speeding ticket i got like 1.5 months ago! so as of right now im thinkin about just getting the chip reflashed. another thing i was thinkin about is should i send the chip to asus and wait for go knows how long and only spend $5 or buy it from a website for like $25 and get like next or 3rd day shipping? cuz being w/o a computer really sucks...

[Tru2Chevy]

Build the AMD system....put it on a credit card. Living happily in debt is the American way. :D

- Justin

[Brando56894]

yea i was gonna throw the idea at my dad today to see what he thinks, since i dont really have a CC just a debit card... hopefully he'll go for it

:w00t: he said i could time to build my beast :twisted: i was gonna hold out on some stuff but now that i think about it, im gonna go all out! of course im getting the essentials, but i might get a soundcard and a new powersupply too if they arent too much. i have my surround sound hooked up by the cables that came with my old radeon AIW :lol: ill post up what im finally gonna get.