Is WWIII apon us? Are YOU ready?

[Rob WS6]

All these posts, along with posts on other boards seem to point to one thing: We are in the beginning stages of WWIII.

But I think this one will be different. It wont just be contained to the middle east. It will also be in Asia/N. Korea, and worst of all, a revolution on our very own soil, along with terrorist attacks. I guess you could say alot of people saw this coming... now its rearing its ugly head, and we cant do anything to stop it.

I find it a bit too convenient that this fighting is starting all around our troops in the middle east. We just happenned to be there, and they just happenned to start an open war with us smack dab in the middle.

I think alot of innocent lives are going to be lost, and our military is going to suffer many casualties. With the state of our country financially, politically, and with the immigrants, I fear things here are going to get worse.

Now my question to all of you: Are YOU read? By ready I mean a few things. Draft wise... some of us are young enough to be drafted, myself included. Are you ready to be forced to possibly die for your country for a cause you might not believe in?

My answer is... Im not sure. Im probably one of the most patriotic people you've ever met. I love this country and would die for it in a heartbeat for the sake of freedom. But I will NOT die for some politicians beliefs or motives.

Secondly, are you prepared firearms/defense wise? With the possibility of things here getting bad, are you ready to protect yourself, your family, and your property?

Me... At the current time, I dont own any firearms. However, I think that will change in the near future. Ive been seriously considering legally purchasing a firearm or two, and as the days go by, this idea seems better and better. Problem is I dont really know anything about them, so Im gonna have to start learning shortly.

Im posting this on a few boards... Im looking for peoples reactions to see whos ready.

[Brando56894]

Now my question to all of you: Are YOU read? By ready I mean a few things. Draft wise... some of us are young enough to be drafted, myself included. Are you ready to be forced to possibly die for your country for a cause you might not believe in?

:werd: i'd chop my nuts off before i fight for these political ********! i know for a fact that my family and i will dodge the draft (if there is one) in any way possible. my mom already told my brother a little while ago that if there is one that hes going to college and she doesnt care if he goes to class or not, just as long as hes not in the draft. im sure we'd ****en move to canada if we had to!


Secondly, are you prepared firearms/defense wise? With the possibility of things here getting bad, are you ready to protect yourself, your family, and your property?

oh hell yea we are! we have atleast 5 guns in our house. a rifle in my dads room, 12 gauge shotgun (single barrel) in my brothers room, .22 in the computer room, and a .25 handgun in the living room. :twisted:

not to mention 2 paintball guns if it comes down to it :lol:

[j0n]

draft-wise i'm in if US soil is in danger

id say im ready for a fight on the mainland...the following is contained within 2 safes, with a 3rd nearby dedicated to ammunition, enough to put up a hell of a battle

shotguns:
.410 bolt action
20 guage bolt action
12 guage pump with buckshot barrel
12 guage pump with slug barrel
12 guage semi auto with slug barrel

rifles:
(12) .22 rifles in pump, semi, bolt-action
.270 bolt action
.30-30 lever action
.308 pump
.30-06 bolt action

handguns:
(2) .22 semi-auto
.22 revolver
.357 revolver
.38(accepts .357 rounds) semi auto
9mm semi auto
walther ppk
.40 glock
.45 colt
s&w model 500(.50 calibur revolver :-D )

[Rob WS6]

Holy **** man! If **** hits the fan around here, Im headin up your way! :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

Its all rather scary. All of us could say we are ready for something to happen here, but untill the moment comes, know one knows. I have a small wepons stash, but I dont know what to expect as for a home land revolution. Where will the lines be drawn? What will cause the rest o the world to suit up and ready to move? Is it possible that in 5 years, what we know as the US could be broken up into seperate countries, divided by religion and the like.

[enRo]

Well, i dunno how the draft works, but I've applied for the army twice before, and I couldnt join because of asthma and a ****ed-up-for-life knee. So I dont care, gimme a shotgun and Ill sit on my front porch if anything happens here :-D

[NJSPEEDER]

lol, how can so many otherwise intelligent people live in fear of **** like this?
if war breaks out, your front yard will not be the battle ground. wars are fought at strategic locations, and unless some foreign power is desperate for some cantaminated soil or some piss drunk piny's, we are pretty damn safe.
some people seem to forget, the US is still the big kid on the block. we have more firepower and better trained soldiers than any other country in the world. anyoen who wants to start **** with the US will learn the same lesson others have in teh past, they will get crushed.

[WayFast84]

Not ready at all. No guns in the house, Id be screwed if anything at all happens. some one get me a pitch fork!!

[Ian]

I don't know what I would do if my number came up in "the draft". I do know that I am not ready for a war here in our country though.

And Tim, I don't think we are afraid of an attack from an outside force on our turf, but rather a new aged civil war.

[NJSPEEDER]

what eveidence of a revolution in the US is there? umm......none, well a few rednecks in the hills of west virginia who sing songs about white power between beers, but thats about it.

how can anyone be amazed that their is fighting in the middle east. hmmm, a culture that has been infighting for well over 500years. who would have guessed they would start doing it again? duh!

the draft is an easy one. it is called a conciencious(sp?) objector form. by federal law if you saw you have a moral or religious objection to fighting, you can not be forced to fight.

is having a cash of firearms an answer? if you don't like politicians, get politically active. i don't mean protesting if you don't want, but regularly email and/or call those who represent you to let them know your opinion and desires as a citizen.

i don't know when america turned into a culture of fear, but it is getting retarded really fast. everyone needs to go out and educate themselves about how the world really works and maybe they can see solutions instead of jsut wandering aimlessly in the political dark being afraid of what "the man" will ask them to do next.

[camarokev]

what eveidence of a revolution in the US is there? umm......none, well a few rednecks in the hills of west virginia who sing songs about white power between beers, but thats about it.

how can anyone be amazed that their is fighting in the middle east. hmmm, a culture that has been infighting for well over 500years. who would have guessed they would start doing it again? duh!

the draft is an easy one. it is called a conciencious(sp?) objector form. by federal law if you saw you have a moral or religious objection to fighting, you can not be forced to fight.

is having a cash of firearms an answer? if you don't like politicians, get politically active. i don't mean protesting if you don't want, but regularly email and/or call those who represent you to let them know your opinion and desires as a citizen.

i don't know when america turned into a culture of fear, but it is getting retarded really fast. everyone needs to go out and educate themselves about how the world really works and maybe they can see solutions instead of jsut wandering aimlessly in the political dark being afraid of what "the man" will ask them to do next.


I agree, could not have said it better. There is no evidence for a political revolution here in the US- there IS evidence of a democratic party which is getting tired of not having any power, therefore they are flexing every muscle in the complaint department that they have.

The bottom line right now is this- the only political revolution coming up here at home will probably take place in November, if at all by way of voting. Right now, republicans control both the house, the senate, and the Presidency. This allows republicans to get their way the majority of the time.

Look back in history- before the republicans took over, the Democrats had the SAME setup back before Nixon had his scandals. It's all part of the way things evolve in the political world. So, just because the parties have been on such polar-opposite sides of the spectrum, there is absolutely NO signs/proof/whatever of a new aged civil war.

To be quite honest, I would be ASHAMED of our country if this happened. Look at what happened at 9/11. If the Democrats or Republicans thought that differing views was now enough to start a civil war, then 9/11 hasn't taught anyone *****.

As far as what's happening in the mideast, if you have been looking at the instability for years, this could be seen coming a MILE away. The problem? We have our troops smack dab in the middle of the whole thing if WWIII does break out in the mideast.

If the US had been smart, we would have started to drill for oil in Alaska, regardless of how much the penguins need the territory. If we had done this ten years ago, then we could simply take our troops out of the area and let the mideast bomb the hell out of each other, leaving us out of the issue. The problem is that our economy runs on oil, and the mideast has all of the available stuff.

If the US did completely embargo the area, and took all civilians and troops out, and stopped trading because of fear of the war, the longest we could last would be approximately 75 days, since our Government keeps a stash of oil that could last for our country for a period of that length. After that, in order to last with our oil, we would NEED to fight, in order to keep our economy running.

If our economy doesn't run, we have no weapons, no weapons, no army, no army, the Mideast bombs the hell out of us and we couldn't do a damn thing. So, it should be extremely interesting watching what Bush does and how things come to fruition.

[69RSZ]

WWIII will NOT BE A CONVENTIONAL WAR.It will be fought from subs,ships and silos, MISSLE SILOS THAT IS.WE OWE IRAN SOME PAYBACK!!! They are the root cause of all this bullcrap that is going on and if we dont bomb them back to the stone age before they get a nuke mounted on a missle we will be in trouble.

[Ian]

:roll: I'm gonna stay outta this now.

[BigAls87Z28]

Drill for oil in Alaska? Why, when E85 can be produced just as easily from things we already have, such as corn and other organic sources. America is too ****ing lazy to make E85. Other countries are having tremendus success, but our goverment will not go foward with it. Guess who wants to go all Ethanol? Japan as well as China.

[98tadriver]

draft-wise i'm in if US soil is in danger

id say im ready for a fight on the mainland...the following is contained within 2 safes, with a 3rd nearby dedicated to ammunition, enough to put up a hell of a battle

shotguns:
.410 bolt action
20 guage bolt action
12 guage pump with buckshot barrel
12 guage pump with slug barrel
12 guage semi auto with slug barrel

rifles:
(12) .22 rifles in pump, semi, bolt-action
.270 bolt action
.30-30 lever action
.308 pump
.30-06 bolt action

handguns:
(2) .22 semi-auto
.22 revolver
.357 revolver
.38(accepts .357 rounds) semi auto
9mm semi auto
walther ppk
.40 glock
.45 colt
s&w model 500(.50 calibur revolver :-D )


yeah, um give me directions to your house so i know where to go in case of an extreme emergency!

[Rob WS6]

First of all, not fear here. Its being aware of whats really going on, and preparing for it.

I think theres alot of evidence of a revolution coming here. Many issues including illegal immigration, taxes, government doing everything that NOONE wants done, racial barriers... alot of things. This government is ****ing us up the ass and noone is doing anything about it. Look at our elections... the candidates are pathetic, yet we have to chose. So we chose which seems the lesser of the two evils, and we get screwed either way. Corruption is running rapid and everyones afraid to step up to the plate.

**** IS going to change here, theres no two ways about it. If you think the direction the country is going in is for the good, then you really need to pull your heads out of the dirt and take a look around.

Could you imagine if George Washington was alive today, the state of utter shock he would be in? This country is so far away from how it was started and its not right. Too many Americans died to make this country what it was founded to be, and it seems we have lost sight of that.

[jimmyboy8301]

not to swift posting your weapons and where in your house exactly they are.

[camarokev]

Drill for oil in Alaska? Why, when E85 can be produced just as easily from things we already have, such as corn and other organic sources. America is too ****ing lazy to make E85. Other countries are having tremendus success, but our goverment will not go foward with it. Guess who wants to go all Ethanol? Japan as well as China.

Al, there have been steps made, but the REALITY is that our economy runs on oil, regardless of whether or not you feel we are just "too lazy" to do things. And, you are wrong when you say that our government is just too lazy. Wasn't it president Bush that spent his whole state of the union address talking about the importance of E85 last year?? I think it is not the fact that our government is just too lazy, rather, they are simply talking about stupid ****, like who one the elections, who stole elections, why we shouldn't be over in Iraq.

In other words, people would rather COMPLAIN about things that they cannot change, rather than talk about things that actually matter and that could change in the future. And a man who does that is unwise.

However, there comes a time when you need to look at things realistically- and looking at the situation realistically brings one equation:
No oil= messed up economy. Oil= good economy. Temporary Solution- get more oil.

Granted, while I would love to have cars run on E85, it just won't happen for many years to come. Even with the steps that companies like GM have made, with the lack of plants that make the stuff, we'd be screwed for the next few years while these plants tried to crop up.


First of all, not fear here. Its being aware of whats really going on, and preparing for it.

I think theres alot of evidence of a revolution coming here. Many issues including illegal immigration, taxes, government doing everything that NOONE wants done, racial barriers... alot of things. This government is ****ing us up the ass and noone is doing anything about it. Look at our elections... the candidates are pathetic, yet we have to chose. So we chose which seems the lesser of the two evils, and we get screwed either way. Corruption is running rapid and everyones afraid to step up to the plate.

**** IS going to change here, theres no two ways about it. If you think the direction the country is going in is for the good, then you really need to pull your heads out of the dirt and take a look around.

Could you imagine if George Washington was alive today, the state of utter shock he would be in? This country is so far away from how it was started and its not right. Too many Americans died to make this country what it was founded to be, and it seems we have lost sight of that.

Rob, if you feel that way, you should really read up about the properties that this government is founded upon. If we DO have another civil war, it will be because of people who have the attitudes like the one you express above, no offense.

Plus, Washington and the founding fathers would probably be in shock- not because of the fact that our country is so "messed up" as we call it, but because they based this country on the belief in and faith in GOD. Believe it or not, this country was founded on the principle that God exists, and people just do not want to believe that.

I do think that the founding fathers would be surprised with how unlike a melting pot this country has become. That was the old adage- "the US is like a melting pot because everyone comes here and becomes one thing, American."

Now, all we have is a tossed salad. Every group of citizens wants to keep its heritage, so we don't have America, or Americans anymore. There is no sense of unity, because all of the other peoples from around the world want to keep their customs. They don't call themselves Americans. No, they are "African Americans", "Latin Americans", etc etc etc. Until the day comes when our country becomes a melting pot again rather than the tossed salad that it is, we will always have these stupid problems arise.

However, just because disagreements arise, does NOT mean there will be a civil war, period. Things in the United States have grown to be civil- meaning that unless something as severe as slavery appears that both the Democrats and Republicans disagree on, there will not be another civil war. PERIOD.

There are no signs, and anyone who says they should "stock up on firearms", is an idiot and is not doing any research. Like I said above, that attitude will be the attitude that gets us into another civil war if there ever is one again.

[j0n]

not to swift posting your weapons and where in your house exactly they are.

good luck getting through 3" of steel chief

[jimmyboy8301]

saying you have them is 1 thing but saying where exactly they are room by room is another. i'm not talking about a gun safe.

[BigAls87Z28]

First of all, not fear here. Its being aware of whats really going on, and preparing for it.

I think theres alot of evidence of a revolution coming here. Many issues including illegal immigration, taxes, government doing everything that NOONE wants done, racial barriers... alot of things. This government is ****ing us up the ass and noone is doing anything about it. Look at our elections... the candidates are pathetic, yet we have to chose. So we chose which seems the lesser of the two evils, and we get screwed either way. Corruption is running rapid and everyones afraid to step up to the plate.

**** IS going to change here, theres no two ways about it. If you think the direction the country is going in is for the good, then you really need to pull your heads out of the dirt and take a look around.

Could you imagine if George Washington was alive today, the state of utter shock he would be in? This country is so far away from how it was started and its not right. Too many Americans died to make this country what it was founded to be, and it seems we have lost sight of that.

Exactly. There is a lot going on with America. Not everyone buys into the crap that is dished out by Bush. I do not belive in our goverment and I do not belive in there ability to keep us safe from harm. It seems that everyone is a zombie this, and there is nothing we can do. Exactly right, we have people that run for president that do not appeal to the most of the population, so we pick what we think is the lesser of two evils. I didnt want Kerry to be in office as much as I didnt want Bush in. We need a strong leader now, but political system is so ****ed up that there seems no one we can trust. When the people grow tired of a goverment, over time there grows unrest, and that breeds revolution. Will it happen tomorrow? No. Will it happen next year? Probably not, but I would imagine very soon that this country will be torn between belives and laws, what is right and what is wrong.

[Slow 88]

{Al, there have been steps made, but the REALITY is that our economy runs on oil, regardless of whether or not you feel we are just "too lazy" to do things. And, you are wrong when you say that our government is just too lazy. Wasn't it president Bush that spent his whole state of the union address talking about the importance of E85 last year?? I think it is not the fact that our government is just too lazy, rather, they are simply talking about stupid ****, like who one the elections, who stole elections, why we shouldn't be over in Iraq.} Camarokev

Of course Bush is going to talk about E85 because that is what the public wants to hear! But the reality is that he has and his family has ties to OPEC which is making them richer by the day...

[slasherbarb]

we italians dont need no stinking guns...as the old sicilian proverb goes...

On your feet go your shoes, on your head goes your hat, anyone tries to **** with my property, they'll catch a shot from my ****in' baseball bat!!!!


BRING IT ON!!!!!

[JL8Jeff]

This is just a "correction" that has been waiting in the wings in the middle east. Hezbolah brought it on themself. We just need to sit back and stay out of it as long as we can or until the UN says we go in. Iran and Syria have been feeding Hezbolah and they will continue to until they are stopped. As for E85 in the US, it's a great option but there's no way in the world we would ever be able to produce enough to meet the fuel demand. Just look around this state. Every open field has turned into condo's or townhouses. WWIII will have to wait a while longer.

[Rob WS6]

Rob, if you feel that way, you should really read up about the properties that this government is founded upon. If we DO have another civil war, it will be because of people who have the attitudes like the one you express above, no offense.

Will a revolution be cause by people like me? People who like to think for themselves and for the good of our country as a whole? People who dont buy into the political ******** were fed? People who truly believe in whats right, not what puts money in your pocket? Well then, yes... the revolution will be cause by people like myself.

Plus, Washington and the founding fathers would probably be in shock- not because of the fact that our country is so "messed up" as we call it, but because they based this country on the belief in and faith in GOD. Believe it or not, this country was founded on the principle that God exists, and people just do not want to believe that.

I know that, and am not disagreeing in any way. I believe thats another one of this countrys problems.


I do think that the founding fathers would be surprised with how unlike a melting pot this country has become. That was the old adage- "the US is like a melting pot because everyone comes here and becomes one thing, American."

Now, all we have is a tossed salad. Every group of citizens wants to keep its heritage, so we don't have America, or Americans anymore. There is no sense of unity, because all of the other peoples from around the world want to keep their customs. They don't call themselves Americans. No, they are "African Americans", "Latin Americans", etc etc etc. Until the day comes when our country becomes a melting pot again rather than the tossed salad that it is, we will always have these stupid problems arise.


Exactly, see my "racial barriers" statement. Political correctness, affirmative action, and many other things designed to make people feel more comfortable are EXACTLY whats tearing this country APART. YOU SIMPLY CAN NOT GIVE ANYONE SPECIAL TREATMENT OVER SOMEONE ELSE, or there will be problems. If EVERYONE here (legally) was just considered an American citizen and given NO special treatment because of their religion, heritage or skil color, MANY of this countrys problems would disappear.

And theres absolutley nothing wrong with stocking up of firearms. Its our second ammendment right, so why souldnt we? Criminals have firearms, and so should every citizen. Then maybe criminals would think twice. Theres no way around it, guns arent going anywhere. You can ban them all you want, that means the only people who wont have them are law abiding citizens.

[qwikz28]

You can ban them all you want, that means the only people who wont have them are law abiding citizens.
thats why i tend to disagree with the 2nd ammendment. theres no reason to bear firearms (unless you are hunting and therefore would have a different kind of firearm anyway) and now they have spread and been made way too attainable. but its too late now, a ban wouldnt get them out of criminals hands

[Savage_Messiah]

The government is no longer controlled by the people, but an entity which tries to control the people. That is reason enough, plus there is everything Rob talked about.

[r0nin89]

Yes I'm ready I just hope that Akmed is ready to have a .357 hand cannon pointed at him by a 16y/o kid that shoots 95% accuracy...

[12secondv6]

Checks stock pile of weapons:
Water balloons - check
Potato gun - check
Spit ball straw - check

I'm prepared!

On topic.... civil war? I kinda doubt it. With the crazy stuff that is going on this world we can all (everyone in the US) come the the same conclusion on a "greater focus" that there are far greater enemies outside of the US. Sure there is KKK, African militants, neon haters, damn hippies etc.... but they all reasons that Al Keda (or whatever you wanna call them) are the "greater problem."

World hunger for oil..... well... it could be a conspiracy???
Dodge announced the dodge neon would no longer be made in model year 2006..... things got really bad in 2006 with the high demand for oil.... coincidence??? I think NOT!


I'd just say people like to complain.... and don't want to actually attempt to solve these issues.

One person cannot solve it.... it takes many many people.

Getting a more fuel econmical car - small gain but it helps
Using your electricity sparily - small gain but it helps
Using your heat less - small gain but it helps

There needs to be a final solution.... these are weak temporary "fixes"

Bomb Al keda? works for me!

We could rename that area Eastern United States?

[Frosty]

thats why i tend to disagree with the 2nd ammendment. theres no reason to bear firearms (unless you are hunting and therefore would have a different kind of firearm anyway) and now they have spread and been made way too attainable. but its too late now, a ban wouldnt get them out of criminals hands

Guns don't kill people. Criminals and stupid people with guns kill people. England, more specifically London thought a gun ban would curb crime, wrong. Now you'll just get stabbed to death or beaten to death with a bat. If someone wants to kill you they're going to kill you. Guns just make it easier.