View Full Version : New Inventions to break PITA LS1 header bolts, a must read :-D
So, the header installation process has started today, with the help of allmighty spacestation, we were able to accomplish a little more than expected. Well, this is how it went. Before Vitals arrived to the scene of the crime, I managed to remove the 4 AIR bolts, 4 STB bolts (to make things easier) and 3 header bolts (first one towards the front on passenger side, 2 on the driver side). That was in a 45 minute period. Keep in mind this was around 1:15. So Vitals shows up at 1:30, and we get cracking. Almost breaking my nose on the cat bolts trying to the the y-pipe off to get to the rear header bolts, and many frustrations... we've tried EVERYTHING. So we came up with a new tool called "The 3 1/2 hour FTW" Tool... as pictured below...
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5438/1000433mq0.jpg
This tool consists of a 10mm box wrench, a 3-fork garden rake, and a beater screwdriver. The reason its called the 3 1/2 hour FTW Tool, is because we've tried for 3 1/2 hours to try to get that one driver rear header bolt off the car, while this tool only took us about 20 minutes. That was a relief, now onto the other side.
So, with a little fenaggling and twig-like hands of mine, we were able to get all but 1 bolt off the entire exhaust manifold... the last one, the rear passenger bolt. We've came prepared, figured out different strategies, and left us with no choice but to invent yet another useful tool ... "The Spearchucking Tool" as pictured and models by Spacestation himself:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/27/1000431ue9.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9821/1000432ba6.jpg
This tool consists of 2 breaking bars, a socket wrench, a 10mm socket, and twine. Hence the name "Spearchucking Tool", because it looks like something outta Somalian tribes. With this tool, we accomplished the rear bolt in under a half hour from under the car. We finished up all the bolt removal at @9:00.
Headers should be done tomorrow, I gotta saw off the y pipe and everything will pretty much fall. A 2 day project, which was pretty much what I estimated. BTW Wayfast header installation FTL :lol:
man gotta love the expression on my face...
it was a pretty long fawking day, but our super inteligence came thru. Afro-engenering ftw!
Brando56894
07-17-2006, 09:01 PM
haha nice
WayFast84
07-17-2006, 09:06 PM
Wayfast header installation FTL :lol::nod:
Wayfast-
Header
Intake
cam
install
FTL:lol:
edit
wayfast ftl
wayfast cam install FTW
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/Picture274-1.jpg
look at that stance ;)
foff667
07-17-2006, 09:19 PM
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~kanwisch/LS1TechMirror/Pacesetters/98Camaropg4.htm
how did you manage to make it a two day project...I did 95% of mine by myself in less then 10 hours :lol:
WayFast84
07-17-2006, 09:23 PM
Some people are more hardworking then others, some have add plus it was maddd hot today
when I get my ls1 or 95 + v8 Im getting true duals and just doin exhuast in one day
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~kanwisch/LS1TechMirror/Pacesetters/98Camaropg4.htm
how did you manage to make it a two day project...I did 95% of mine by myself in less then 10 hours :lol:
you must have small hands :lol:
wayfast stop whoring this thread or ill make you cry and go complain to administration again.
foff667
07-17-2006, 09:28 PM
dude...at 5'9 230 and 1/2 of this board meeting me in person most if not everyone can say I dont have small hands...pudgy yes small no...10mm gear wrench FTW guys...buy a set...best investment you'll ever make imo
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/Picture274-1.jpg
Wayfast using thermostat housing for flesh-light FTL
foff667
07-17-2006, 09:29 PM
I will give you an E for effort with those tools though :lol:
I will give you an E for effort with those tools though :lol:
yo our tools rocked! :rofl:
dude...at 5'9 230 and 1/2 of this board meeting me in person most if not everyone can say I dont have small hands...pudgy yes small no...10mm gear wrench FTW guys...buy a set...best investment you'll ever make imo
Its not that it was hard, there was 2 people that didnt really know how to tackle the bolt removial, we relly doidnt have experience. Plus, it was fburtaly ****ing hot today, hence why my spelling is ****ed :-D Smirnoff being the only thing in this house FTL
chrisfrom nj
07-17-2006, 09:36 PM
YOU SHOULD HAVE GAVE ME A CALL I WOULD HAVE HELPED YOU TODAY
deadtrend1
07-17-2006, 09:53 PM
you guys skipped a step that i usually do.....
I usually go out and buy newer, cooler expensive tools thinking that they will work .... and dont. Then ghetto rig something up....
edit: it was uberly hot today for me to even think about doing work on the cars. I waited till the sun went down to start putting the interior back in the 86. Me and Rob_ws6 were still sweating like mad putting the trim pieces on. heat waves suck...
I was also wondering why the car was getting lower on the jackstands... the paved driveway became "soft" and the jackstands sunk about 2 inches :lol:
**Edit* All due to the madness of heat
35thls1ss19
07-17-2006, 10:13 PM
sure noah no phone call for some help? i see how it is!
sure noah no phone call for some help? i see how it is!
No # to call? Never got a chance to snag that off ya!
35thls1ss19
07-17-2006, 10:20 PM
haha ok and 2 days!!! i have doen mine and three of my freidns in under 8 hrs!!! and you have a pm
haha ok and 2 days!!! i have doen mine and three of my freidns in under 8 hrs!!! and you have a pm
cool you can do my headers whenever i decide to buy them :lol:
35thls1ss19
07-17-2006, 10:25 PM
cool you can do my headers whenever i decide to buy them :lol:
noooooooo lt1's!!!! thats a diffrent story haha
cool you can do my headers whenever i decide to buy them :lol:
**** Spacestation! I forgot to mention how you broke yet another useful tool... the "Weed Trimming Tool" ... first an umbrella, then IHOP, and now this! :-D LMOA
*EDIT* And the tool u found wedged in my crossmember hahahahahahah something ive never seen before
noooooooo lt1's!!!! thats a diffrent story haha
god damn it :lol: i had to give it a shot.
**** Spacestation! I forgot to mention how you broke yet another useful tool... the "Weed Trimming Tool" ... first an umbrella, then IHOP, and now this! :-D LMOA
*EDIT* And the tool u found wedged in my crossmember hahahahahahah something ive never seen before
:werd:
we used lots of gardening tools to work on your car :rofl:
35thls1ss19
07-17-2006, 10:48 PM
**** Spacestation! I forgot to mention how you broke yet another useful tool... the "Weed Trimming Tool" ... first an umbrella, then IHOP, and now this! :-D LMOA
*EDIT* And the tool u found wedged in my crossmember hahahahahahah something ive never seen before
o god i am afriad to be around him.... ya never know what he will braek next :)
Untamed
07-18-2006, 08:58 AM
I was also wondering why the car was getting lower on the jackstands... the paved driveway became "soft" and the jackstands sunk about 2 inches :lol:
**Edit* All due to the madness of heat
Was working on the starter on mine and couldnt figure out why it was more difficult to remove the stands when I was done - they sunk into the pavement. Hadn't happened before. Guess the heat makes the pavement more "dynamic" huh?
Congrats on the ghetto tools, guys. As Murphy's law states - "If its stupid but works, it isnt stupid."
JL8Jeff
07-18-2006, 10:33 AM
Gotta love it. I did the headers on my LT1 when it's 35 degrees in the garage and you do the headers when it's 97 degrees outside! Don't you like how none of us work on our cars when the weather is perfect!:scratch:
lastcall190
07-18-2006, 12:58 PM
Did mine friday and the duals yesterday... it was a nightmare with the heat but well worth it. Think I saw you guys working on it today...
-J
Nice, u shoulda swung by. Black Formula, or Black Camaro? Cuz thats all I saw today.
Nice, u shoulda swung by. Black Formula, or Black Camaro? Cuz thats all I saw today.
made any progress since departure of almighty space station?
made any progress since departure of almighty space station?
Yea, I progressed to cleaning up a bit. Gonna finish tomorrow. Ill be better motivated :lol:
lastcall190
07-18-2006, 02:04 PM
Black formula, I was on my way to pick up lunch... end up finishing? I had to put a few interior panels in and I lost about 20lbs from sweat I couldn't imagine a header install today hahah
-J
Yea, I progressed to cleaning up a bit. Gonna finish tomorrow. Ill be better motivated :lol:
:rofl:
let me know if you need help tomorrow (just text or call me i guess) im off tomorrow and i gotta install my K&N thingy. so i can prolly do that while im helping you.
Black formula, I was on my way to pick up lunch... end up finishing? I had to put a few interior panels in and I lost about 20lbs from sweat I couldn't imagine a header install today hahah
-J
yea we saw u drive by twice.
Firebird67dude
07-18-2006, 02:12 PM
Damn. Headers today? Its crazy hot out. I was outside using the hose to spray the monsters down while i washed the cqar and that was toommuch to handle.
35thls1ss19
07-18-2006, 03:19 PM
Black formula, I was on my way to pick up lunch... end up finishing? I had to put a few interior panels in and I lost about 20lbs from sweat I couldn't imagine a header install today hahah
-J
you get yours done jacob? you goin to coem out this weekend for once?! :)
35thls1ss19
07-18-2006, 06:47 PM
so any good news noah???? hows it sound?
foff667
07-18-2006, 07:04 PM
longest header install EVAR!! :lol:
we stoped doing stuff at 1pm... i had to go to work and noah had to clean stuff :lol:
we stoped doing stuff at 1pm... i had to go to work and noah had to clean stuff :lol:
Correct, had to lay some pipe. :-D So far its only been about 9 hours total of work, thats not including pizza, lots of breaks, and getting more tools.
CJ, dont know how it sounds if it aint mounted yet! We finally got the pipes off this morning, and i called it a day. Had **** to do in the afternoon.
longest header install EVAR!! :lol:
Didnt wayfast take 3 weeks to do shorties?
foff667
07-18-2006, 09:05 PM
you realize you just compared yourself to a 14 year old right? wow, just wow.
you realize you just compared yourself to a 14 year old right? wow, just wow.
Ummm dont see the comparison?? You said longest install ever, and I told you the longest install ever.
lastcall190
07-18-2006, 09:45 PM
you get yours done jacob? you goin to coem out this weekend for once?! :)
Yep got 'em friday did 'em friday night, fired up open headers @ 2am... neighbors loved that. Gimme a call or IM this weekend we'll all meet up, and yes I will bring my car this time so you and your gf aren't sad :bunny:
-J
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