Registration Question?

[BigAls87Z28]

Is it possible to have the 72 insured, titled and tagged by Sunday? Is there a way to just swap plates from one car to another? I was going to get everything done tomorrow and get the ball rolling, but if there is a way to do this with existing plates, I would like to do so.

[BonzoHansen]

Yes, if you can get insurance together that fast. Are you over 25 & have a clean record & a daily driver? Call Hagerty. Get it done in a few hours.

You want QQ plates? Take all the info and pictures and proof of insruance to the Trenton office - they have QQ plates on hand. Check the DMV site, it isn't the regular office.

[enRo]

Is it possible to have the 72 insured, titled and tagged by Sunday? Is there a way to just swap plates from one car to another? I was going to get everything done tomorrow and get the ball rolling, but if there is a way to do this with existing plates, I would like to do so.

Ummm... elaborate more... as for insurance, u want it as a DD or a collectable/classic car? Cuz for me to put my Camaro on a new insurance policy (geico)... it took 10 minutes, they sent temporary papers via Email so i can drive it THAT DAY until i got the real card ...

then

Registering my 88 WS6 and adding it to my insurance policy seriously took a total of 45 minutes, most of it being in line at the DMV. They give new plates upon registration.

*Edit* Ok, nvm, see u prolly want QQ plates.

[BigAls87Z28]

No, I tried Hagerty and the stupid careless driving thing I was pinned with in 04 is killing me.
I am going with Allstate. They can get me up and running tomorrow in an hour no doubt, they did with my Maxx.
Now, I dont want to QQ it, I will register it under normal registration.
If I can get the insurance tomorrow, can I bring plates along with the old Title and whatever cash and get the car ready to go before Sunday?

[enRo]

Are you looking for normal insurance? or Collectors insurance?


*edit* that has no relevance to the situation, all u need is 6 points of indentification (stupid NJ, which is drivers license, birth cert, SS#, and proof of address like bank statement, etc) , your insurance policy #, title, and plates. You should be good to go

[BonzoHansen]

Why normal plates? Ugly inspection sticker....

The old plates don't matter. Just bring them in and get a receipt for turning them in. Bring the paperwork (dl, title & insurance, I think) & the checkbook. Check DMV site for exact details.

[BigAls87Z28]

You are not understanding me.

It is going to take longer then Friday to get new plates for the 72.
I have plates left over from my Taurus and my brothers Avalanch, Explorer, Taurus, and Blazer to pick from.
Can I take a one of those sets, bring that with all the other stuff, and have the ability to use THOSE plates to put on the Camaro, and not wait to get a NEW set of plates.
Not QQ, no classic, no nothing. No inspection, any of that. What can they inspect? Cats? Its 1972, Pre-Nazi restrictions. Im not worried about inspection, I need to know if I can use old plates, renew them with DMV for the 72, and then be ready to ride by Sunday?

Added information, the Camaro is currently titled and was registerd in Wyoming where my grandfather had the car kept. I cannot use those plates for obvious reasons.

[BonzoHansen]

They have plates at any DMV office, what is the big deal? 45 minutes and you have plates in your hands.

Regular registration still requires inspection & associated sticker. Eewww, an ugly sticker. :)

[camaro2you]

as long as the plates where in ur name.

[BigAls87Z28]

Alright, I didnt know they had plates on hand. Scratch this thread.
I need to get tires, so Im gunna call up work tomorrow...ugh, on my vacation.
Ok, going to order the exhaust from Summit cause Exhaust Guys let me down big time.

[BonzoHansen]

Try Pypes. A lot of good comments at nastyz about them. And a lot of bad comments about the summit kits.

[Silent Z]

What can they inspect? Cats? Its 1972, Pre-Nazi restrictions. Im not worried about inspection.

I went to Eatontown DMV and they failed my 1974 T/A and that was pre-cat.s also. They did the sniffer test and the guy laughed. He said with my cam I'd never pass! lol

[BigAls87Z28]

I belive that in 73 starts cats? Eh, there were no cats in 72, and there wont be any cats that are going on it. Honk the horn, test the belts, check the lights, and Im out.
I orderd the Magnaflow exhaust, along with a new Lokar dipstick so that I can be ready for Sunday. Thank you gents.

[j0n]

I belive that in 73 starts cats? Eh, there were no cats in 72, and there wont be any cats that are going on it. Honk the horn, test the belts, check the lights, and Im out.
I orderd the Magnaflow exhaust, along with a new Lokar dipstick so that I can be ready for Sunday. Thank you gents.

:w00t: is that the pimptastic flexible one that's almost half a hundred dollars??? :rofl:

[BigAls87Z28]

Yep it is. Braided stainless FTW!

[79CamaroDiva]

Al, if you have a day off, i would definitely recommend going to trenton and getting qq plates for it. You can have it under normal insurance and have qq plates. One time registration fee and no inspection is definitely a good thing. I was in and out of there in less than a half hour once i found the building i had to go to. (its actually about a block away from the regular dmv in trenton)

[BonzoHansen]

What she said. Go early, like be there before they open.

Cats started in74, IIRC.

[BigAls87Z28]

I do not want QQ plates due to the restrictions on them. They cant inspect me for jack, there are no "standards" to compare against.

[JL8Jeff]

Al, if you get a regular registration and plates you will have to go through the same inspection as newer cars. I had to with my old 68 SS396 conv. Most likely you'll never pass the emission's test. Even if it is just the tailpipe at idle. If you decide to get the QQ plates you need a couple of pictures of the car(from the front and from the side) to take with you and a pencil tracing of the VIN. If you haven't titled it yet then you want to take a couple of checks with you since each window downtown is like a different office. It took me a couple of tries but I finally got the SS titled and registered. I would recommend doing it as soon as possible because if you're missing any documents or need anything notarized you'll need the extra time.

Oh, and yes, you can transfer plates if they are in your name and if they are for the same type of vehicle(car to car, or truck to truck)

[BigAls87Z28]

Wait...why do I have to pass an emissions test for a car that has no emissions standards? I thought cars over a certain age did not get tested?

[JL8Jeff]

There are emission's standards going back to the late 60's cars. That's why they installed smog pumps on cars starting around 67. So if your engine isn't stock then you might have some problems passing the sniffer. Check with a local garage that does emission's testing and they might be able to "tune" the car to pass. If it doesn't need to go on the roller dyno you can probably tweak the timing and carb settings to pass.

[BonzoHansen]

They had standards Al, just much lower than current vehicles. I think, but could be wrong, that emission testing is 1968 and up vehicles.

Get QQ plates now just to get up and running, and look into the special collector car registration later. There was a whole discussion on it not too long ago, search. DMV has zero info on those on their site – in fact I just submitted a request to the DMV for written info on both types. I am not sure how fast you can get those plates.

I understand the QQ restrictions are ‘to and from event and to and from repair’, or something like that. You work at a car repair place – problem solved. Plus, just know a cruise or event you might be going to – print out the list off njcarshow.com. BTW, I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for unauthorized QQ usage.

[JL8Jeff]

You can use QQ plates for 3000 miles a year, to and from parades, club meets and gatherings but it shouldn't be used for normal drive to work usage. I find that most of my driving with the QQ plates is going to the gas station to try and keep the tank full! 7 mpg isn't getting me too far!:laugh:

[BigAls87Z28]

I havent either, but Id be the first one to get pulled over and questioned. Isnt there a milage restriction? And I dont have any pictures outside of digitial pictures of my Camaro.

[Tru2Chevy]

Yes, 3k miles per year....

- Justin

[BigAls87Z28]

If I go to Trenton, which one do I go to? I dont wnat to be restricted to 3k a year, I want to drive it more then that.

[Tru2Chevy]

If you want to drive it more than 3k miles per year, you have to use standard registration. Both QQ and Collectors registrations limit you to 3k miles.

Just go to your local MVC and get your plates...no need to go to Trenton if you aren't going QQ.

- Justin

[PBodyGT87]

If you want to drive it more than 3k miles per year, you have to use standard registration. Both QQ and Collectors registrations limit you to 3k miles.

Just go to your local MVC and get your plates...no need to go to Trenton if you aren't going QQ.

- Justin

Ah but if he goes to trenton for QQ, does that mean Bakers Basin DMV?

[Tru2Chevy]

Ah but if he goes to trenton for QQ, does that mean Bakers Basin DMV?

No, Trenton for QQ = downtown Trenton.

- Justin

[BonzoHansen]

Ah but if he goes to trenton for QQ, does that mean Bakers Basin DMV?
No, since BB is in Lawrenceville. Call DMV and get the right address. It is not the standard Trenton DMV service center. I am not sure about the 3000 mile restriciton on QQ, but could be.

If you don't drive it in the rain, or trips to the store and whatnot, 3000 is not nuts. But no one is checking the odometer with a QQ, but they are with the collector car reg.

Edit: Justin types faster than I do.

[BigAls87Z28]

Alright, so its down to this
Do I go QQ plates and be strapped to a 3k limit, drive alllll the way out to Trenton and dodge bullets, but am void of any emissions testing?
or
Do I go regular plates, suck it up and pray for the best with emissions, and have unlimited miles?
I do 20k miles in a year...3k is a drop in the bucket. I can do 3k in a weekend.

[PBodyGT87]

No, since BB is in Lawrenceville. Call DMV and get the right address. It is not the standard Trenton DMV service center. I am not sure about the 3000 mile restriciton on QQ, but could be.

If you don't drive it in the rain, or trips to the store and whatnot, 3000 is not nuts. But no one is checking the odometer with a QQ, but they are with the collector car reg.

Edit: Justin types faster than I do.


Ah, just wondering. Some people like to call lawrenceville trenton, as if they are the same. or, ewing = trenton. or hamilton = trenton, you get the idea. just wanted clarification, haha

[BonzoHansen]

Alright, so its down to this
Do I go QQ plates and be strapped to a 3k limit, drive alllll the way out to Trenton and dodge bullets, but am void of any emissions testing?
or
Do I go regular plates, suck it up and pray for the best with emissions, and have unlimited miles?
I do 20k miles in a year...3k is a drop in the bucket. I can do 3k in a weekend.

Well, what I am saying is you won't do 20k in this car. It will have project downtime, you won't (shouldn't) drive it in the rain/snow, or to bad places, etc. Besides, does you odometer even work? :)

What insurance are you using? What are they going to pay you if it gets wrecked? If it isn’t agreed value, you are not going to get squat for it if anything happens, so that might keep you from driving it some places too. Will they put a mileage limit on you?

I still think it sounds easier to do QQ now and change later if you must.

[BigAls87Z28]

I just called Allstate, and its gunna be about 20 bucks a month!! 7k miles a year, and I am good to go. They are faxing it over as we speak.
Looks like I will be heading to Trenton for QQ plates.

[Tru2Chevy]

I just called Allstate, and its gunna be about 20 bucks a month!! 7k miles a year, and I am good to go. They are faxing it over as we speak.
Looks like I will be heading to Trenton for QQ plates.

What's the agreed upon value for the car?

- Justin

[BonzoHansen]

There you go!

Just find out if the policy is agreed value or stated (book) value. Did they ask you about comp & collision? If they did (and you took it) then is is most likely book value. When you get past that CD ticket, look into better coverage.

Edit: Again, Justin outtypes me!

[JL8Jeff]

You need pictures of the car to get the QQ plates so don't bother heading down until you have pictures. The special titles/registration location in Trenton is around the corner from the normal DMV office in Trenton but you can park at the lot for the normal DMV office and walk over. I would call them first to see what you definitely need regarding paperwork. I learned the hard way that I was still missing stuff and had to get the bill of sale notarized in Canada!

[BigAls87Z28]

Right, this is just a temp till 3 years passes (next year) and I get switch it over to hagerty. They are basing it off book value as there was no value quoted.
Anyone have the number of the place so I can call? And will they take black and white pictures from a computer printer?

[bad64chevelle]

no they must be color. they need three shots-one of interior, and two angled shots that show two sides of the vehicle.

[BigAls87Z28]

ahhh I guess Im going to kinkos

[BigAls87Z28]

Ok, which one am I going to? The one on Stockton and Front St?

[BonzoHansen]

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/About/Contact.htm

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/About/ContactPhone.htm

[Tru2Chevy]

It's around the corner from the one on Stockton and Front, not sure of the address though. Call to find out as Bonzo said...

- Justin

[JL8Jeff]

You can park at the Stockton and Front street dmv and then walk over to special titles/registrations which I think is on East State Street 2nd floor. Do you have your insurance card with you? If not, get Allstate to fax you an insurance card.

[79CamaroDiva]

3k per year... so if you need to, just keep track of your mileage each time you reregister (i think its every 3 years, and there's no fee). Then just fudge the number a little.... as long as you keep a piece of paper in a safe place with it, no problems, they don't check. Insurance doesn't either.

Also, included with QQ plates is 'pleasure driving.' The cop will have a hard time proving you weren't driving it for fun...

[BonzoHansen]

I figure I am going to report mine at re-registration time just under 2900 each year. This past year my 77 got about a total of 85 miles. So I will have a cushion for the next few years when it is driven more.

[BigAls87Z28]

Well....the brakes were just put on this whole deal when I found that my mother never notarized it. I have this week to do it, and every day is full of a lot of work. This day is a total waste...Im kinda upset. Only thing I got done was the insurance card faxed to me.
I might head over to DMV by me because I need to get my Maxx registerd so I can drive legaly. I always have the ability to be pulled over with something like that.
Anyway...Day 1 down the tubes.
Day 2: Register for classes, hair cut, and hopefuly make it out to Trenton again.
Day 3: Parts should be here, so I will use that day to get all the stuff onto the car. Maybe make a little trip to the trucks with it.
Day 4: Put new wheels/tires on it, and take it out for its first trip if I dont get it wrapped up for Weds night.
Day 5: Wash clay bar and wax it. Get it purdy.
Day 6: Drive it alllll daaaaaay loooong.
Day 7: Nats

[BonzoHansen]

What has to be notarized?

[BigAls87Z28]

The old title from Wyoming to show that both of us signed it, and it has to be done infront of a Notary.

[BonzoHansen]

Gotcha. Last August, when I titled & reg my 77, all I had was the Delaware title signed over from the old owner. I guess they changed requirements.

[JL8Jeff]

The notary is a 50/50 thing. Half the time they want it the other half they don't care. Always get a bill of sale notarized just in case. The title doesn't need to be notarized, the bill of sale needs to be notarized.

[BigAls87Z28]

WHAT!! The Bill of Sale does? On the Wyoming title, it asks for a notary's stamp. I knew I should have stamped the bill of sale as well. Im gunna be going notary nuts soon!!

[JL8Jeff]

If there's a place on the Wyoming title then get it notarized as well as the bill of sale. I have people here at work that are notaries and it's not a big deal. But DMV wants the stuff notarized more and more. I had to have the guy in Canada overnight me another bill of sale that was notarized in Canada!

[BigAls87Z28]

Ugh....alright, I should have had her notarize it this morning as well. Well this ****s up my morning.

[JL8Jeff]

You can call DMV to check with them for sure. If the Wyo title has the price paid on it and it's notarized it might be good enough for them. But if you're heading to Trenton I would want to be sure I had the right paperwork in order. Been there, done that and had to come back.

[BonzoHansen]

Damn, that all sucks. All I had was a signed title which had the sale info on it. Just the sellers signature.

[BigAls87Z28]

Its done baby!! QQ plates are here, i have to wait for a title and I have a temp registration, but its good to go!!
Now I need to get the exhaust up and get the car ready.

[JL8Jeff]

Sweet, success on the first try! Which exhaust are you getting? I was looking at the Flowmaster setup that has the correct stainless tips. I found a place that will sell it for $376 shipped if you're interested.

[WayFast84]

Jeff, as the future owner of your car, may I please ask for you to get a magnaflow instead?

lol j/k

[BigAls87Z28]

I went with Magnaflow's 2.5 dual muffler set up from Summit. All stainless with polished tips. The sound clip on line I heard is great, just what I wanted. I have nice coated Hooker Comp LT 1 5/8's to give me plenty of exhaust flow. I just checked my UPS and FedEx tracking, and everything will be arriving tomorrow!! That 2day shipping thing is a sham!! I orderd it Monday, got it on Weds, all under standard free shipping.

[BonzoHansen]

Woot!

[Savage_Messiah]

Sweet, success on the first try! Which exhaust are you getting? I was looking at the Flowmaster setup that has the correct stainless tips. I found a place that will sell it for $376 shipped if you're interested.
:hammer: :banghead::hammer::banghead::hammer: :banghead: :willy: why

[Ian]

dont knock flowmaster when it comes to making big blocks sound awesome!

[JL8Jeff]

The Flowmaster setup for the 70-81 Camaros is one of the nicest out there, it fits the best, it has the best looking angle cut tips in the stock location and it uses Flowmaster 50 series mufflers so it sounds good too. And you're not getting any system with the correct looking angle cut stainless tips for anything close to that price. But I'm not doing any exhaust on the 70 until the 69 is done so nothing to worry about.

[BigAls87Z28]

I wanted a stainless set up, and after hearing the Magnaflow on there website and everyone being very happy with the fit and sound of other Magnaflow systems, I was pretty happy about it. Im currently waiting or it to be deliverd this morning so I can go over it all.

[JL8Jeff]

Al, is that the transverse crossflow muffler setup like stock or a true dual muffler setup? I like the Pypes setups as well but the correct stainless tailpipe tips add a lot to the cost and I would really prefer the stock tailpipe look myself.

[BigAls87Z28]

It is a true-dual set up, 2.5 all the way back. I only have a single-back exhaust in right now that came stock, not dual.