Possibly selling SS, would like advice

[jimmyboy8301]

Well I'm seriously considering selling my SS. I'm looking at getting a 02-04 C5 vette in the lower 20k/mi range (not a Z06). I've always wanted a vette and I'm starting to really look at them and would like to get one in the next year or so possibly. However if i decide to keep the car I'd like to get done heads, headers, cam, and a few other boltons. So what should I do: keep the SS or look at a C5? If I sell the SS how much should I ask. I want to go a little high so I have room to negociate. Here is what is done to it:

2001 Chevy Camaro SS in sunset orange metallic

-SLP Camaro SS grille
-15% tint on back window
-NGK Uridium sparkplugs
-MSD sparkplug wires
-SLP lid
-K&N drop-in filter
-SLP loudmouth exhaust
-3.73 gears
-Powerslot rotors
-Raybestos ceramic pads
-17x9.5 American Racing Torque Thrust II's
-275x40x17 BFG G-Force KDW tires
-Full PCM tune with HPTuners
-Rebuilt transmission to include:
-Pro Torque 9.5" 2800 stall lock-up torque converter
-Trans cooler
-Alto wide 2-4 band
-Raybestos 2-pak 3-4 clutch
-Transgo shift kit
-Billet 1-2 and 4th servos
-H/D sunshell

[qwikz28]

mileage?

[jimmyboy8301]

hahaha good one 49,500 so i'll say 50,000

[qwikz28]

i would say 16k or 15k quick sell. you'll get more money parting it out of course

[WayFast84]

keep it till the new camaro gets alot more exposure then sell it to some kid in high school who just herd about a camaro coming back next year..

if it was a stick Id be over it though... look at my avatar lol

[Ian]

go test drive a few C5's and see how you feel about it then. Corvettes are amazing cars, but they are more expensive to work on than F-bodies.

[qwikz28]

go test drive a few C5's and see how you feel about it then. Corvettes are amazing cars, but they are more expensive to work on than F-bodies.
corvette tax!

[jimmyboy8301]

i'm not really beat off a quick sell or parting it out, i'll wait a little extra time to get what i want. I'd really like to get 17k for it.


what does the avatar have to do with my car being an auto?

[qwikz28]

i'm not really beat off a quick sell or parting it out, i'll wait a little extra time to get what i want. I'd really like to get 17k for it.


what does the avatar have to do with my car being an auto?
post it up for sale on a couple sites and see if you get any bites. (i just rhymed :lol:)

[jimmyboy8301]

lol thats hot

[35thls1ss19]

depends what you want to do with the car. i nice qucik street car i would go vett. but a drag car that runs 10's and you ''can'' drive on the street stick witht the camaro, cheaper to mod, no irs.... i am stickign to the camaro. I was in the saem boat as you about 2 months ago. i stuck with the camaro

[Bandit]

Keep the SS.. With a bilstein suspension it will out handle every C5 vette other then a Z06. Vettes are a dime a dozen. Also most Fbodies are quicker.

You will miss the camaro the minute you sell it. The main reason I keep the 10th. We went to Kerbeck this year and all the salesmen came out and took pictures.. Nuff said.

PS - if you are selling it.. 16-17K max maybe less. Don't even think about a trade-in unless you want to be very insulted.

[qwikz28]

Keep the SS.. With a bilstein suspension it will out handle every C5 vette other then a Z06. Vettes are a dime a dozen. Also most Fbodies are quicker.

You will miss the camaro the minute you sell it. The main reason I keep the 10th. We went to Kerbeck this year and all the salesmen came out and took pictures.. Nuff said.

PS - if you are selling it.. 16-17K max maybe less. Don't even think about a trade-in unless you want to be very insulted.
bilstein FTL. a bilstein setup wont make a fbod handle or ride like a corvette.

[Bandit]

bilstein FTL. a bilstein setup wont make a fbod handle or ride like a corvette.


Wrong it has been proven time and time (SLP Bilstien set up) handles better then a C5 at the track. (pro driver took both cars out on a skid pad test run and track run and the SS handled better) not by much but it did.

A fact GM did not want to get out but ut did.

[qwikz28]

Wrong it has been proven time and time (SLP Bilstien set up) handles better then a C5 at the track. (pro driver took both cars out on a skid pad test run and track run and the SS handled better) not by much but it did.

A fact GM did not want to get out but ut did.
grip is one thing, because the slp bilstein setup also had bfg kd tires which are second to only God. the vette runs crap runflat tires. we're also not taking into account road feel and ride quality.

you can make a fbody handle better then a stock vette. bilstein is not the best, no where near actually. but then again you have a modded car against a stock car

[Bandit]

grip is one thing, because the slp bilstein setup also had bfg kd tires which are second to only God. the vette runs crap runflat tires. we're also not taking into account road feel and ride quality.

you can make a fbody handle better then a stock vette. bilstein is not the best, no where near actually. but then again you have a modded car against a stock car


SS and Firehawks are not modded.. You could of purchased it from GM set up like that, Could of also got the 1LE setup too. So its Stock vs Stock. Point is you can have a cheaper nicer car that will run as well if not better then a C5 Vette. Plus you will get more attention from a nice Fbody vs a C5 anyday.

[qwikz28]

SS and Firehawks are not modded.. You could of purchased it from GM set up like that, Could of also got the 1LE setup too. So its Stock vs Stock. Point is you can have a cheaper nicer car that will run as well if not better then a C5 Vette. Plus you will get more attention from a nice Fbody vs a C5 anyday.
i'll agree with that :nod:

[Frosty]

I'm in the same boat as you man, I'm highly thinking of ditching the Z for a C5.

[Frosty]

Also most Fbodies are quicker.



You're kidding me right? Stock for stock and mod for mod the vette will be quicker if all things are equal.

I personally witness back in the beginning of the year the record the for the fastest bone stock C5 get broken at Atco. 12.6x something, somewhere around there. Of course it was a 6speed but still...NO fbody is anywhere close to that stock...also that car is a rare thing(obviously) but mod for mod a vette will be faster

[Bandit]

You're kidding me right? Stock for stock and mod for mod the vette will be quicker if all things are equal.

I personally witness back in the beginning of the year the record the for the fastest bone stock C5 get broken at Atco. 12.6x something, somewhere around there. Of course it was a 6speed but still...NO fbody is anywhere close to that stock...also that car is a rare thing(obviously) but mod for mod a vette will be faster

Fresh off the trailer I ran 13.0 a/4 a good driver with a M6 has run low 12.6's stock.

When it comes to Vette vs Fbody "stock" you will get more out of the Fbody in the 1/4 mile.. Vettes are not designed for the 1/4 they are a all around car.

[Frosty]

a good driver with a M6 has run low 12.6's stock.



Where's the BS flag? There's no f'in way a stock(down to the stock filter and tires) Fbody has run a 12.6's.

Also, it's not all about the 1/4 mile ;)

[Bandit]

Where's the BS flag? There's no f'in way a stock(down to the stock filter and tires) Fbody has run a 12.6's.

Also, it's not all about the 1/4 mile ;)


2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. '02)

I know the 01-02 Fbodies are faster then the 2000 model year.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html


So I guess all the info is BS?

Dude I've been a track rat for 20 years.. trust me a good driver can get a stock Fbody into the mid 12's. My car has gears and drag radials and runs mid 12's.

[90FormulaWS6]

dude vettes run about 1 full second faster in the 1/4 mile than an fbody ... stock for stock

[Tsar]

:popcorn:

[jimmyboy8301]

gm high-tech ran a bone stock 01 SS at e-town. they car dyno'd 326 rwhp and ran a 12.96 @ 109. The stock 04 Z06 they had ran a 11.97 i'm guessing a stock C5 is around 12.6 - 12.7 bone stock.

[Bandit]

dude vettes run about 1 full second faster in the 1/4 mile than an fbody ... stock for stock

Drop the crack and stand back..

Jim a C5 Z06 vs C5 Coupe are night and day. Stock vs Stock would be tenth of a difference between the C5 and Fbody if the same driver drove both cars.

[jimmyboy8301]

i'm guessing a Z06 is about a little more than a half a second quicker than a C5. i'm guessing a C5 is about 2 tenth's quicker than an f-body

[35thls1ss19]

a vett is for a guy with a small penis... parts are more and everyone and there granpa has one. I love spakign a vett... they are not ment for the 1/4 mile. they are ment to be drivin on a nice day. Personaly i want a car that goes 10's low 11's and sounds like a muslce car. i would stick with the camaro. and if you decide vett you ahve to get a z06.

[Rich189]

its really your choice jim but i think youll miss the ss soon as u get rid of it.... like others said vettes are pretty much a dime a dozen around here but if you do decide to do it lemme steal your tranny first :P

[unstable bob gable]

Keep the Camero.

[Frosty]

2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. '02)

I know the 01-02 Fbodies are faster then the 2000 model year.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html


So I guess all the info is BS?

Dude I've been a track rat for 20 years.. trust me a good driver can get a stock Fbody into the mid 12's. My car has gears and drag radials and runs mid 12's.

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast ;)

[Dark_Knight7096]

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast ;)


Especially because R&T is teh SUX0R, lol. R&T tested the 03 Marauder and said that stock 1/4 times on that was 15.7. I've been a member of mercurymarauder.net for coming up on 2 years now, I've NEVER seen a single member run that slow. The slowest car we have STOCK is 15.4, all the other stockers run around 15.2, the fastest stocker runs at 14.6, R&T is not that credible of a 1/4 mile database, for me anyway JMHO.

[35thls1ss19]

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast ;)
maybe not all stock f bodys but i have seen some... the guy at the nats his all bolt on car goes 11.9's everyone thiks he is cammed.... i am not sure what his car went stock but its go to be dam close to 12.6's i went 12.9 stock. Maybee he will chim in i know he reads the board....???!!!!

[Bandit]

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast ;)


gm high-tech ran a bone stock 01 SS at e-town. they car dyno'd 326 rwhp and ran a 12.96 @ 109. The stock 04 Z06 they had ran a 11.97 i'm guessing a stock C5 is around 12.6 - 12.7 bone stock.
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Lets look @ the above statement from Jim.

If you know tracks and use the above times for the SS. What do you think the time would be for Atco and Cecil?

Island 12.96 = 13.1
Atco 12.96 = 12.8's
Cecil 12.96 = 12.7's or less

So saying its not possible is wrong. but what do I know.

[JL8Jeff]

I always hate to see F-body owners bail out and get a Vette. It's like taking the easy way out. Vettes are more expensive, more expensive to mod, more expensive to upkeep and more expensive for the owner(you need to go out and buy some gold chains and gawdy rings to protray a Vette owner properly)! :mrgreen:

[BigAls87Z28]

Meh, I guess do what you want. I think that your SS is much better looking they any standard C5 and the SOM paint and wheels look sharp. I am a Vette fan as well, but I wouldnt get a C5 unless it was a Z06. They are going to be expensive overall, but I think that your SS is one of the nicest 4th gens on this board.

[BonzoHansen]

And why buy a C5 Z06 since the C6 Z06 out run them? It is a never ending saga...

[Tru2Chevy]

I personally witness back in the beginning of the year the record the for the fastest bone stock C5 get broken at Atco. 12.6x something, somewhere around there. Of course it was a 6speed but still...NO fbody is anywhere close to that stock...also that car is a rare thing(obviously) but mod for mod a vette will be faster

I was there for that too :)

I'll agree that the vette is a slightly faster, slightly better handling car than the F-body stock for stock. But $ for $, the F-body is much better, IMO.

- Justin

[Tsar]

stock for stock and best bang for the buck nothing beats 1000cc bike :shrug:

[WayFast84]

stock for stock and best bang for the buck nothing beats 1000cc bike :shrug:
:nod:

if you want bang for buck get a bike..

If you want the ability to pick up chicks get a vette

if you want handling and power z06

if you want a quick car for cheap that is real reliable gets good gas milage and looks like sex get a 4th gen


id personally take a c5 z06 over anything.

But its up to you.

[Tsar]

:nod:

if you want bang for buck get a bike..

If you want the ability to pick up chicks get a vette

if you want handling and power z06

if you want a quick car for cheap that is real reliable gets good gas milage and looks like sex get a 4th gen


id personally take a c5 z06 over anything.
But its up to you.
wrong, everyone has a vette, and bike will get u more poon.

there other cars besides fbodies that i would take over one in a second.

ehh vette is nowhere near the best car in the world, but its a great bang for the buck.

[WayFast84]

my bad,

i thought we were just talking about vette,fbodie and u mentioned bike

[Tsar]

my bad,

i thought we were just talking about vette,fbodie and u mentioned bike
well at the begining we were just talking about fbodies, and a C5, then we added C5 z06 then C6 z06, then i added bikes, then i also added *other cars* :lol: now its a big cluster ****.

[35thls1ss19]

:nod:

if you want bang for buck get a bike..

If you want the ability to pick up chicks get a vette

if you want handling and power z06

if you want a quick car for cheap that is real reliable gets good gas milage and looks like sex get a 4th gen


id personally take a c5 z06 over anything.

But its up to you.


lol littel kids pick up chicks with a car? lol Maybee some weight reduction would help ya ;) haha

[BonzoHansen]

there other cars besides fbodies that i would take over one in a second.
I drove a new M5 this weekend... :drool: That will get higher class 'poon'. :)

[Frosty]

maybe not all stock f bodys but i have seen some... the guy at the nats his all bolt on car goes 11.9's everyone thiks he is cammed.... i am not sure what his car went stock but its go to be dam close to 12.6's i went 12.9 stock. Maybee he will chim in i know he reads the board....???!!!!

Speculation. What he runs modded has nothing to do with what he ran stock.

[Frosty]

gm high-tech ran a bone stock 01 SS at e-town. they car dyno'd 326 rwhp and ran a 12.96 @ 109. The stock 04 Z06 they had ran a 11.97 i'm guessing a stock C5 is around 12.6 - 12.7 bone stock.
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Lets look @ the above statement from Jim.

If you know tracks and use the above times for the SS. What do you think the time would be for Atco and Cecil?

Island 12.96 = 13.1
Atco 12.96 = 12.8's
Cecil 12.96 = 12.7's or less

So saying its not possible is wrong. but what do I know.

Again, speculation. 12.9's is a FAR cry from 12.6's. Also, you can't sit there and take times ran at one track and "assume" they'd be XXXX at another.

I stand by my statement, everyone can say "well if he ran at this track" or "his modded times are this so his stock times should've been" all you want...until I see a bone stock fbody produce a 12.6 or even a 12.7's time slip I'm calling BS. Even the biggest liar/internet poser bull****ters don't claim to be that fast.