My car was on the verge of being impounded today

[enRo]

I just got outta work, and needed to go down Rt 206 in Netcong/Mt Olive for something when a cop pulls me over. It happened to be right in front of the State Trooper barracks, but luckily it was a township cop that pulled me over, and you'll find out why. So the cop walks up to my driver door, but stops for like a quick second before reaching the window and asks me for my license, registration and insurance etc etc. Before he walks back to his car, he asks "So, does this car have catalyst or do I have to get my knees dirty?" And I was outright honest and said "No Sir, I just had this pipe put on, and was recently told about the fine I can get if I'm caught without them" , just cuz I didnt wanna get on his bad side. He nodded, and walked back to my car... Im saying "****" and "****" while Im waiting. 5 minutes passed by and he is JUST about to hand me a ticket (I dunno what for), he was also about to say something when he looked at my workshirt and said "You work for Roxbury Township?" I said "Yes'r" ... and he put the ticket in his pocket and said "Word of advice, if I see this car driving around without catalysts again, I'm calling for a tow". I had such a HUGE sigh of relief and I promised to do something about it. He then gave me a verbal warning for loud exhaust.

PHEW. So I guess my search for new rims has come to a sudden halt momentarily, I guess Im gonna be looking into a catted y from TSP. Im guessing the reason he stopped before he asked me for my paperwork was to sniff the car out... cuz my car is running VERY lean.

Moral of this story: Good thing I work for the town. Ive gotten outta lots of points and buttload of tickets. I now keep a folded up workshirt with the embroidery facing up in my backseat.

[JL8Jeff]

Just get a pair of the Pypes compact 3" cats and have them welded into your current y-pipe. HaHa, and you guys wouldn't listen to me. You guys just have to make your car louder and remove the emission's stuff. Cops are looking for a reason to pull a young person over in a sports car. Don't give them a reason. At least it only cost you a new pair of underwear! :laugh:

[Tsar]

semi-onwage...

[qwikz28]

hope you dont plan on camming that beast :(

[Untamed]

Now if only "scared straight" worked on kids on drugs.... ;)

[enRo]

hope you dont plan on camming that beast :(

LS2 might suffice ;-)

[LuvMyF8LWS6]

Wow, your ass was on the line! Good job having the right shirt on!

[NJSPEEDER]

screw that. get yourself a few cat shells and put bulet mufflers in them. it will quite the car down enough so that you are less likely to be harrassed and if they do decide to look there will be the perfect appearance of cats there. :)

[BonzoHansen]

These kids today... :)

[ar0ck]

Bullet cats will cost you cheap through the right people ;-) Also cat-shells are also available lol

[angin52]

i have 2 cats roxy and lucy, but they are scared to death of my 74

[lastcall190]

That sucks man, your car doesn't even seem that loud? Do you mean it's RICH is why it stinks? Mine isn't so bad after the tune... I've sat in front a few cops before, I know my day will come sometime when I need to rethink my exhaust, until then... :D At least you got out of it.

-J

[enRo]

Its quiet at idle, but hella loud when on the gas, thats what I love about the hooker. I slapped it on just a cpl days before we met up to go to Wyckoff, so it was still a pretty quiet car :-P But the cop got me at the traffic metering signal at the netcong circle, I was in the right lane next to Coyote's and I went gas-happy to pass someone to get on southbound 206. The cop was there somewhere, which is when I noticed him on my tail.

Rich, lean, same thing to me... the car smeellllllllllls. lmao

[Tsar]

Rich, lean, same thing to me... the car smeellllllllllls. lmaoRich, noobert :nod:

[GP99GT]

maybe you shoudl stop dragging your ass about the tune

[enRo]

maybe you shoudl stop dragging your ass about the tune

Maybe you should lick my balls, g00n. :lol:

[Savage_Messiah]

tha bad part about appearance mods... they pull EVERYONE'S eyes to your car

[chrisfrom nj]

you should weld on 2 gutted out cats so if the cops check they see 2 cats

[unstable bob gable]

YIKES! Close call...I'd just cat it up and have piece o' mind.

[lastcall190]

IMO don't even do the cat shells, you're just inviting massive disaster in a worst case scenario... If you can't find anyone local, Mufflex did a catted y for my friend's LT1 for a very reasonable price.

-J

[BonzoHansen]

What would good cats cost you in HP, 10?

[enRo]

What would good cats cost you in HP, 10?

Some studies actually stated that single hi-flow cat setups gained @1HP over a non-catted setup. I read that somewhere.

[Savage_Messiah]

Some studies actually stated that single hi-flow cat setups gained @1HP over a non-catted setup. I read that somewhere.

you read that from treehugger jeff's damn propoganda!!! :lol:

[enRo]

you read that from treehugger jeff's damn propoganda!!! :lol:


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:rofl: :finger:

[qwikz28]

like i said in the other thread, cats do more harm then they help.

[NJSPEEDER]

just put a bullet in a cat shell. it is quick, easy, and cheap. the power loss will be minimal and you will still get to hear the LS1 when you go to WOT

[Savage_Messiah]

like i said in the other thread, cats do more harm then they help.

what other thread... link my lazy ass

[qwikz28]

cats break down CO and NO2 into CO2, O2 and small traces of NO. NO is 100x more harmful to the environment. i am deleting my cats because i care for the environment :lol:
holla

[Savage_Messiah]

jeff just had a heart attack

[qwikz28]

interesting info:
Though nitrous oxide evidently leads to global warming, there have been no laws ratified to actually lower the emission of greenhouse gases, thus nitrous oxide is not seen as a pollutant. No one is sure either of how much nitrous oxide is actually produced by a catalytic converter, however one study has calculated that “…a car with a fuel economy of about 19 miles a gallon would produce .27 grams of nitrous oxide per mile.”[3] It has also been calculated that since the extinction of older cars without catalytic converters, the production of nitrous oxide has increased by nearly 50%.
source: http://www.lcc.ukf.net/kskills/catconv.htm

[Savage_Messiah]

cats = bad... egr = bad... emissions is not FTW

[Brando56894]

:werd:

[JL8Jeff]

Ha, you guys fall for that propaganda on the interweb!:scratch: Catalytic converters reduce more harmful stuff than they might increase NOx. And cows are creating a heck of a lot more ozone problems then catalytic converters are. And running a modern engine on unleaded fuel without catalytic converters creates even more bad emissions than the older cars that ran on leaded. So when you remove your cat(s) you are polluting even more than we did back in the 60's & 70's! But if you don't like catalytic converters, then go out and develop a better emission's control solution that doesn't rob power or efficiency. But I doubt you'll find a better solution that reduces smog emissions without having another adverse effect.

[BonzoHansen]

As much as I love clean air, I leave that to hippie Jeff. All I see a bunch of guys wasting time & money on their cars for almost no real world gain, while simultaneously causing unwarranted trouble. Ugh, failed emissions, buying parts to make the useless mods work (hi, I want to buy cat shells, WTF?), reprogramming ecms, breaking parts and unwarranted downtime, even risk of impoundment??

Ha, been there, done that, already wore out the t-shirt. Spend that time & energy on doing something useful to your car. Work smart, not hard.

[WayFast84]

As much as I love clean air, I leave that to hippie Jeff. All I see a bunch of guys wasting time & money on their cars for almost no real world gain, while simultaneously causing unwarranted trouble. Ugh, failed emissions, buying parts to make the useless mods work (hi, I want to buy cat shells, WTF?), reprogramming ecms, breaking parts and unwarranted downtime, even risk of impoundment??




Im not gonna lie, Jeff and Scott are right.

theirs only two excuses to not have cats one vehicles.
1. Its a race car
2. Its a historic QQ plated car.

Would you rather have a car with cats that runs 13.2 then a car with out cats runing a 13.2??

Just think of what would happen when an officer knows his ****.. Just get cats then get a manual cut out.

As far as egr and air, the only excuses to take them off is if the intake doesnt have it or the headers dont have it..

Im sorry for ranting but Im kinda jelous :lol:

[qwikz28]

Ha, you guys fall for that propaganda on the interweb!:scratch: Catalytic converters reduce more harmful stuff than they might increase NOx. And cows are creating a heck of a lot more ozone problems then catalytic converters are. And running a modern engine on unleaded fuel without catalytic converters creates even more bad emissions than the older cars that ran on leaded. So when you remove your cat(s) you are polluting even more than we did back in the 60's & 70's! But if you don't like catalytic converters, then go out and develop a better emission's control solution that doesn't rob power or efficiency. But I doubt you'll find a better solution that reduces smog emissions without having another adverse effect.
i believe the figure was ~10% of the ozone related problems are caused by cars. thats a small amount in retrospect. sure the answer to our ozone problems isnt gonna be solved with a emissionless automobile, so why even bother being so strict if the tangible gains are so small? cats are expensive and for all we know we may be wasting more energy on making and enforcing emissions then we are saving

[BonzoHansen]

i believe the figure was ~10% of the ozone related problems are caused by cars. thats a small amount in retrospect. sure the answer to our ozone problems isnt gonna be solved with a emissionless automobile, so why even bother being so strict if the tangible gains are so small? cats are expensive and for all we know we may be wasting more energy on making and enforcing emissions then we are saving
I actually agree that cars are unfairly demonized. Hell, I think the proliferation of batteries and electrical (and plastic) gadgets are an impeding environmental issue – but short sighted greenies like things because they don’t see the pollution. Idiots.

Then again, every little bit helps. That is why I don't argue the reasons they are there - just the reasons why not to bother with screwing with them. The payback vs effort & trouble is rather low.

[Tsar]

um..jet airplanes are way more harmful to the whole polution thingy then 100+ cars put together. but you'll never see them slap a cat one one :rofl:

[Savage_Messiah]

Im not gonna lie, Jeff and Scott are right.

theirs only two excuses to not have cats one vehicles.
1. Its a race car
2. Its a historic QQ plated car.

Would you rather have a car with cats that runs 13.2 then a car with out cats runing a 13.2??

Just think of what would happen when an officer knows his ****.. Just get cats then get a manual cut out.

As far as egr and air, the only excuses to take them off is if the intake doesnt have it or the headers dont have it..

Im sorry for ranting but Im kinda jelous :lol:

go set your car on fire again :lol:

[WayFast84]

go set your car on fire again :lol:
I tried but I ran outa matches :x

[jims69camaro]

I actually agree that cars are unfairly demonized. Hell, I think the proliferation of batteries and electrical (and plastic) gadgets are an impeding environmental issue – but short sighted greenies like things because they don’t see the pollution. Idiots.

Then again, every little bit helps. That is why I don't argue the reasons they are there - just the reasons why not to bother with screwing with them. The payback vs effort & trouble is rather low.

they used to just send cars to the crusher instead of breaking them down into sellable parts, so you can't equate the content of cars with what they used to used before (unfortunately). i heard the argument that crushing cars today (because they don't hold their value like cars from the '60s and '70s) actually creates far more waste than hanging on to the older cars and running them without the 'smog' equipment that appears on later cars (imagine THAT retrofit), but most cars involved in accidents or left to rot aren't sent to the crusher anymore until they have been stripped of every usable part which would include the plastics and other new age materials.

i'd rather hang on to my classic and save another coupla them from the crusher than to have one of the newer cars. i can always update certain systems in the car (power production, braking, driver comfort) with newer materials, or restore them the way they rolled outta the factory.

cars are unfairly demonized. sit behind a bus in rush hour traffic to get a whiff of some truly dirty air. catalytic converters have to be on the car, so figure out some other way to increase power without removing them.