Nevermind Moving to Pa

[BigAls87Z28]

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PENNSYLVANIA

Board approves new emissions standards

By Peter Jackson

The Associated Press

HARRISBURG - The state Environmental Quality Board on Tuesday adopted new air-pollution standards that will require new cars (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=762572#) to be cleaner-burning and follow California's requirements as that state fights to impose even more stringent rules in the future.
The action, which requires one more round of regulatory review, would make Pennsylvania the 10th state to tie its standards to California's.
The new smog-reduction rules, which would apply to 2008 vehicles (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=762572#) sold in Pennsylvania, are expected to have little or no impact on vehicle (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=762572#) prices or the way they drive.
But if California prevails in a pending legal battle with automakers over proposed greenhouse-gas reductions for 2009 models, that change automatically would be imposed in Pennsylvania and other states that follow California, including New York and New Jersey.
Those standards are expected to increase new-vehicle prices, although proponents and opponents disagree about how much. Automakers say the proposed limits on greenhouse gases would also force them to produce smaller cars with less horsepower.
State officials say the savings from improved mileage that would accompany the greenhouse-gas restrictions would offset any increase in sticker prices.

[Savage_Messiah]

****.... CT? How's that looking? :lol:

[camaroracer1992]

haha i get stevie wonder to do my inspections :shifty:

[BigAls87Z28]

Neg, take my advice, dont live anywhere east of the Hudson River. That whole New England deal....dont bother.

[Savage_Messiah]

haha i get stevie wonder to do my inspections :shifty:

:rofl:

new england is wicked not worth yah wicked time

yea, forgot about that NE thing

[qwikz28]

having my best friend from high school do my NY inspection ftw! no SES light means pass. cam, cats, tires be damned!

[JL8Jeff]

Yup, most states will be adopting the tougher standards, that's been known for a while. So look for more and more modified f-body's to be popping up for sale since they can't pass emissions. I sure hope that PA also adopts a law that prohibits burning of leaves. I sit in my boat on the river watching people burn piles of leaves in the fall and it all drifts right on over here to NJ. I wonder if the Amish will have to test their horses to see if they pass emissions?:laugh:

[enRo]

I sure hope that PA also adopts a law that prohibits burning of leaves. I sit in boat watching people burn piles of leaves in the fall and it all drifts right on over here to NJ. I wonder if the Amish will have to test their horses to see if they pass emissions?:laugh:

only u damn hippies.... lol

[Savage_Messiah]

Yea let's make bonfires illegal too! :roll:

[JL8Jeff]

Yea let's make bonfires illegal too! :roll:

They are, you need a permit!

[Savage_Messiah]

I'm gonna make one that spells out "**** EMISSION CONTROL" and burn it... then wait for al gore to arrive in a prius and punch him out... then cut the cats off the pruis and leave.

[Tru2Chevy]

They are, you need a permit!

Not if it's contained in a firebowl type setup....

- Justin

[Mike]

I'm gonna make one that spells out "**** EMISSION CONTROL" and burn it... then wait for al gore to arrive in a prius and punch him out... then cut the cats off the pruis and leave.


ill bring the ladder u need to punch him in the face

[trashman01]

ct aint bad, 97 and up, OBD II test, 1996 - 25 year old cars are rollers, plus u can "plug" in the options if so needed

[NJSPEEDER]

it always amazes me when the millionare politicians say that something isn't expensive or that the costs will offset themselves.
it doesn't really work that way as anyone who has taken even a high school level economics class can tell you.
step1: make a mroe expensive car
step2: pay more in insurance because your car is more valuble
step3: hope that the car averages the 7-10 years it would take at average driving mileage to pay back the first two price increases discussed.
step4: watch greenhouse emissions increase because those same millianares that want you to drive a ****** car turn around and give breaks to companies that produce as much greenhouse **** as a thousand cars each day.
step5: start over at step 1

the politicians don't come from the average crowd, so i guess it is a stretch to expect them to be at least of average intelligence. but christ, they have to know that frcing people to spend more money is not the way to get re-elected.

[BigAls87Z28]

The quandry that is car manufacturing.

Make a car that meets saftey standards, which means it has to survive all but a direct hit from a Suburban.
That means reinforcement out the ass, air bags galore, and all the other gizmometers, which make cars heavier
Which effects the vehicles gas milage, which that standard is always being raise.
But now you have a heavier car due to the structure and air bags, so you need a bigger engine to move it...but you have to achieve better gas milage? So you have to lighten things up and use aluminum, fiberglas, and sometimes carbon fiber, which drives the overall cost of production up, which makes the car more expensive, which now you have to make a more affordable car that can be driven on the road, only problem now you have this big, heavy, V8 powerd, carbon fiber and aluminum bodied quazi super car on the road, so the small affordable car now must be strong enought to take an impact from one of those....
And back to square one.