question about island

[heavy_chevy29]

i want to bring my car to island before the end of the season(i know that i dont have a long time). im trying to get a trailer so i can go. i saw on their site they said that they hold test and tunes on sundays 10am to 4pm. does it get real crowded there this late in the season on a sunday. im looking to get some shake down runs with the new rear and this motor. also are they going to tech the **** out of my car. i have no idea what it will run. but i dont plan of beating the **** out of it do to some clutch issues i have the other.

also if anyone knows were i can get a trailer please let me know. its alot harder than i thought it would be to get a trailer.

[Tru2Chevy]

Sundays always seem to be hit or miss late in the season. I have gone on Sunday and gotten there shortly after the gates opened and gotten in 11 runs while allowing some time for the car to cool.

- Justin

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Sunday's aren't that crowded, but they tend to tech a lot.

[79CamaroDiva]

what exactly do you mean by "tech the **** out of your car"? is it a streetable car or is it a race car? you must have some semblance of an idea where its gonna run... 12-13 sec range? 10-11.. etc... if you have slicks, have a ds loop, but its not hard to get through tech if your car is honestly a safe car. if you have belts, make sure they're not out of date, etc etc etc...

as for crowds, late in the season it doesnt tend to be too crazy, but from what i heard last weekend was a zoo, so like justin said.. its hit or miss. just make sure you get there when or before gates open, you should get plenty of runs.

[BonzoHansen]

what exactly do you mean by "tech the **** out of your car"?
Rules are for suckers! :lol:

[Savage_Messiah]

whts the last weekend?

[GP99GT]

lol melissa he said "tend to tech a lot" not "tech the **** out of your car"

[79CamaroDiva]

i want to bring my car to island before the end of the season(i know that i dont have a long time). im trying to get a trailer so i can go. i saw on their site they said that they hold test and tunes on sundays 10am to 4pm. does it get real crowded there this late in the season on a sunday. im looking to get some shake down runs with the new rear and this motor. also are they going to tech the **** out of my car. i have no idea what it will run. but i dont plan of beating the **** out of it do to some clutch issues i have the other.

also if anyone knows were i can get a trailer please let me know. its alot harder than i thought it would be to get a trailer.

lol melissa he said "tend to tech a lot" not "tech the **** out of your car"


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[heavy_chevy29]

its a street car. i tryied to make it as safe as possible. i have a driveshaft loop, scattershield, and things like that. i honestly really dont what the car is going to run. i plan on babying it for the first run or two.

the only reason i asked about tech is because i went there with a friend to watch him run in his 240 and they were really breaking his balls.

im not sure if im going to make it to the track before the end of the season. it is alot harder than i thought it would be to find a trailer.

[johnjzjz]

its a street car. i tryied to make it as safe as possible. i have a driveshaft loop, scattershield, and things like that. i honestly really dont what the car is going to run. i plan on babying it for the first run or two.

the only reason i asked about tech is because i went there with a friend to watch him run in his 240 and they were really breaking his balls.

im not sure if im going to make it to the track before the end of the season. it is alot harder than i thought it would be to find a trailer.

The difference between having your balls broken and having them let you drive a car at or over a hundred MPH in an unsafe or incorrect assembled way is -- they really don't care that YOU might be an ass -- but the other guy next to you that has lots of money in his sweet ride and is playing buy ALL the rules you might end up hurting him --- SO for the people who do want to come home with their life and their ride you will be looked at -- ITS THE WAY IT IS DUDE -- jz

[WayFast84]

Nice avatar jz:shock:

[heavy_chevy29]

i completely understand about rules. im not asking anyone to break the rules. they busted my friends balls when his car was completely safe. besides the fact that it only ran somewhere in the 15s in the low 90s. i also understand about people having alot of money in there car, because i am one of those people.

[johnjzjz]

i completely understand about rules. im not asking anyone to break the rules. they busted my friends balls when his car was completely safe. besides the fact that it only ran somewhere in the 15s in the low 90s. i also understand about people having alot of money in there car, because i am one of those people.

I can help with what you need too know is it a full race car -- or a street car and how fast do you think it will be -- it will have to be in the 11s before any real stuff becomes an issue ??? and when your in tech if even for just looks some guys have a NOS bottle in the trunk -- thas a no no -- i seen a kid show up w a 4 door ricearonny and it went 11:00 of course he was thrown right out --- ???? -- jz

[j0n]

it will have to be in the 11s before any real stuff becomes an issue

unless you've got a slow vert like me :-P

[heavy_chevy29]

never mind. im going to wait until next year to run the car

[johnjzjz]

never mind. I'm going to wait until next year to run the car

why are you doing that -- bring it up to the track and have the guys tech the car -- than you will know what if anything you will need to do over the winter --- you deff will need your own helmet, full length pants, if you have moved the battery it must be re located to the trunk and bolted through the frame, no more the 12 inches of rubber fuel line, and a set of stock belts -- after rereading your post its a at best a 15 / 13 second car so it will be a snap ??????? rent a tow Dolly from U Haul for the day 40 / 50 bucks ???? i don't know and pay your entrance on Sunday 30 bucks and go and see what you have been wanting to do with it -- leaving it in the garage and looking at it gets old -- GO take it out -- you will than have a starting point -- next saterday or sunday we will be testing my back up car see pix if you see us their say high -- jz

[heavy_chevy29]

i would definatley expect better than a 13 sec run. the car is pretty worked over. its got a scott shafiroff 434sb with a ford nine inch rear, and alot of suspension work. the biggest problem is that i have the stock clutch and stock t5 manual trans. right now im having a few problems with the rear leaking at the axle tubes. and im also having clutch slipping issues. i do have a scattersheild so if it blows it would be ok. my battery is in the trunk but i welded the bolt downs to the floor with some braces. i also will be running with mickey thompson drag radial. i have a driveshaft loop so thats not a problem. just dont want the tech guys to look at the car and automaticaly think that its a race car and have them start teching the car as a race car. i really just want to do some shake down runs. i just want to get a feel for it. if i start getting to time that would cause me to breake the rules i would just stop and leave.

thanks for all the info

[johnjzjz]

the biggest problem is that i have the stock clutch and stock t5 manual trans. right now I'm having a few problems with the rear leaking at the axle tubes. and I'm also having clutch slipping issues. i do have a scattersheild so if it blows it would be OK. my battery is in the trunk but i welded the bolt downs to the floor with some braces. i also will be running with mickey thompson drag radial. i have a driveshaft loop so thats not a problem.

If the little bit you have driven it you already know the clutch does not hold the motor back than the trans cant get hurt --- and what kind of flywheel did you use ( alloy ) or stock steel ????? -- the axle tubes on a 9 inch it depends small bearing early or late large bearing ( BUT ) take the wheel off pull the axle out clean and silicone the out side of the bearing NOTE some 9 inch rears have a seal behind the bearing on the inside of the tube if the oil is leaking right through the bearing it self -- than it will need a seal installed into the tube or it will never stop leaking --- the battery --- if the bolts do not go directly into a frame rail you will fail -- i have a 2006 rule book it has diagrams for that sort of thing if you need it -- drag radial tires i got a lesson in what they can do in a money race Last year a pal had a 80 malaboo with a small block 355 2 speed 456 gears 9 inch mickeys car went 10:19 131 MPH -- never thought it would hook and he had 16 pounds of air in them so don't discount them --- bigger tires take more power to drive those big boots down the track -- but being you have a stick you will need a real tire my guess anyway -- jz

[heavy_chevy29]

i have a stock steel flywheel. i had one incident were the clutch slipped doing a burn out. but that burn out was alittle over kill. after i got done doing that burnout, i could not put the car in any gears. the next day i went back(left it at my friends) and i drove it home(no problems). i think it was a combo of a bunch ot things. clutch slippage, overheating the clutch, and not enough fluid in the hydraulic clutch. the rear does have the larger non-sealed bearing. i took the axles out, cleaned and siliconed the seals when i got home from work today. so ill have to drive it and keep an eye on it. i guess im screwed as far as the battery goes. there really is no frame to bolt it to on my car.

thanks alot for all this help you are giving me. i really appreciate it

[johnjzjz]

im screwed as far as the battery goes. there really is no frame to bolt it to on my car.

Ok the guys at island are real and if you made a real attempt at an attachment to hold it still and it passes a head shake if their is some other way they will tell you and let you run i am sure --- just because someone else has something go on does not --- you are not them -- question # 1 the clutch size ---- ques # 2 is it a diam or is it a 3 finger ( 3 finger is way more in what you want to run a stick car ) and a must re serface the fly7wheel if and when you change it out - jz

[heavy_chevy29]

the clutch is stock. i thinks its 10.5 inches(im not 100% sure). it is a diapham style clutch. the reason im thinking about waiting to go to the track is because, by the spring time i would have enough money saved up to get a built th350 automatic. then i could sell the 5 speed. then i wont have to worry about missing shifts or launching hard.

[johnjzjz]

the clutch is stock. i thinks its 10.5 inches(im not 100% sure). it is a diapham style clutch. the reason im thinking about waiting to go to the track is because, by the spring time i would have enough money saved up to get a built th350 automatic. then i could sell the 5 speed. then i wont have to worry about missing shifts or launching hard.

FOR RACING AN AUTOMATIC IS A WAY - BETTER AND CHEEPER -- IS THIS GOING TO BE A FULL TIME RACE CAR ?? BECAUSE A 3 SPEED WILL LEAVE A LOT HARDER THAN SAY A POWERGLIDE SAME 1-TO -1 HIGH SPEED -- AND 350s ARE NOT VERY STRONG A 400 IS BETTER UNIT - BUT WILL TAKE AWAY SOME ET FROM THE CAR -- 2 REASONS ITS HEAVY -- #2 - THE INTERNALS ARE BIG AND STRONG AND TAKE MORE TORQUE TO DRIVE THE DOWN THE TRACK BUT ITS NOT EASY TO BLOW IT UP -- JZ

[heavy_chevy29]

its not a track car. its more of a street car. i plan on buying a trailer soon so that i can go to the track more often. i was also thinking about the th400. im leaning more towards the th350 because of the weight but you brought up some very good points. what do you think a real good street strip 350 or 400 would cost me.

[johnjzjz]

If you are going to want to depend on the car a 400 turbo for street and taking it to the track and racing it in trophy modified ( best class for you ) we use TM with our heavy car at times but only for the time shots -- do you know how to build an automatic trans -- if not i have some good overhaul booklets its easy if you are mechanically inclined the biggest part is the cleaning of the unit -- and the small tricks in the Assembly to make it a semi race unit i can advise -- stay away from full manual valve body's for street driving the kits they sell ( trans go ) will and does have the parts to make the trans do anything you will need to do with a duel purpose car -- a little more in the converter than stock just might be what you will need -- its a 454 small block motor ??? or BBC dont remember what you had in discript -- jz

[79CamaroDiva]

this might be a good time to mention that i'm seriously considering selling my TH400 over the winter. if it has more than 3,000 miles on it since the rebuild i'd be surprised. i had it rebuilt last summer, and very rarely drive it, and now don't race it much either because I've been busy with my dragster. Its full reverse manual valve body, and has a 3800 stall 9" converter (either ATI or Dynamic, i have both, unsure which is in it now)

I'm looking at making my car a full street car with very limited track time, so i'm doing a t56 swap.. the 400 will probably need a home.

[1984camaroz28]

They wont even tech u that hard....my camaro with the 408 lumps and sounds realy healty....they never poped the hood. They will ask u how fast and just tell them mid 13s and your set....i was runing low 11s(on 7cyls) with no cage just a d/s loope no one never said anything. Track prep isent the greats seems to be hit or miss....

[heavy_chevy29]

79CamaroDiva, i will deffinately keep in touch with you about that trans. how much are you looking to get for it. also is it a full race trans or will it be ok on the street.

hey chuck, do you know anyone up by you thats selling an open car tailer. im having a hard time finding one

[johnjzjz]

79CamaroDiva, i will deffinately keep in touch with you about that trans. how much are you looking to get for it. also is it a full race trans or will it be ok on the street.

hey chuck, do you know anyone up by you thats selling an open car tailer. im having a hard time finding one

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[1984camaroz28]

79CamaroDiva, i will deffinately keep in touch with you about that trans. how much are you looking to get for it. also is it a full race trans or will it be ok on the street.

hey chuck, do you know anyone up by you thats selling an open car tailer. im having a hard time finding one

look on ebay for something in the aera is your best bet.....i unloaded mine about 5 months ago and picked up this

[heavy_chevy29]

i just got a trailer in south jersey. its about 2 1/2 - 3 hours away. im going to get it sunday. so i just might make it to the track next week

[heavy_chevy29]

well i picked up my trailer on sunday. im very pleased with it. looks like ill be able to make it to the just in time. im going to go this weekend, weather permitting

[johnjzjz]

well i picked up my trailer on sunday. im very pleased with it. looks like ill be able to make it to the just in time. im going to go this weekend, weather permitting

GOOD FOR YOU HOPE NOTHING BRAKES -- JZ

[heavy_chevy29]

well i just got back front island. i had alot of fun. much to my suprise nothing broke. i was expecting better time but i think it was more drivers error. if i had my drag radials and an automatic i think i would have been alot better. on the second run i missed 3rd gear. kinda sucks because that felt like it would have been the strongest.

heres the slips

R/T .703
60' 2.170
1/8 5.729
mph 86.38
1/4 13.139
mph 109.65

R/T .632
60' 1.978
1/8 8.827
mph 84.09
1/4 13.407
mph 109.76

R/T .851
60' 2.063
1/8 5.567
mph 87.16
1/4 12.911
mph 111.96

on the last run i realized that i was letting off to early. so i sayed on it all the ways through and i seamed to do better. looks like i have alot more to learn about racing. oh well practice makes perfect. oh yeah and they werent bad at tech. let me know what you think.

[1984camaroz28]

really need to work on geting that 60 in the 1.5x IF you can do that you should be able to run a low 12 maybe a high 11.

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, with the kind of power you are making a 1.5/1.6 60' time isn't out of the question, and that will lead to MUCH improved times.

Congrats on the 12 second pass though!

- Justin

[johnjzjz]

well i just got back front island. i had alot of fun. much to my suprise nothing broke. i was expecting better time but i think it was more drivers error. if i had my drag radials and an automatic i think i would have been alot better. on the second run i missed 3rd gear. kinda sucks because that felt like it would have been the strongest.

heres the slips

R/T .703
60' 2.170
1/8 5.729
mph 86.38
1/4 13.139
mph 109.65

R/T .632
60' 1.978
1/8 8.827
mph 84.09
1/4 13.407
mph 109.76

R/T .851
60' 2.063
1/8 5.567
mph 87.16
1/4 12.911
mph 111.96

on the last run i realized that i was letting off to early. so i sayed on it all the ways through and i seamed to do better. looks like i have alot more to learn about racing. oh well practice makes perfect. oh yeah and they werent bad at tech. let me know what you think.

YOU DID GOOD YOUR REACTION TIMES ARE VERY GOOD FOR A FIRST TIME -- AND WITH A STICK -- I WOULD GUESS WHEN I CROSS ADDED THE TICKETS YOU DIDENT POST ALL OF THE INFO SO ITS A GUESS YOU MUST BE SPINNING THE TIRES -- WITH WHAT YOU HAVE 12:80S 114 MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED - JZ

[heavy_chevy29]

yeah i didnt post all the info. it was deffinately spinnig the tires. i think next season with holds better times. hopefully ill me up with some of you at the track.

[1984camaroz28]

yeah i didnt post all the info. it was deffinately spinnig the tires. i think next season with holds better times. hopefully ill me up with some of you at the track.

i will be down there in the spring alot.....probly more so e-town or atco for my quest into the 9s N/a.......

[79CamaroDiva]

yeah i didnt post all the info. it was deffinately spinnig the tires. i think next season with holds better times. hopefully ill me up with some of you at the track.

if you want any pointers, let me know when you're going up there in the spring and ill be more than happy to help you out, or ask any employee for melissa, they'll find me somewhere as long as its not a weekend that im down at atco (holiday weekends throughout the summer).