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hardline_42
11-02-2006, 02:49 PM
For any of you who have been following the thread over on Nasty Z28, I've decided to go for it and I'm picking this baby up tomorrow. It's a 1968 GMC K3500 with a rebuilt 350 sbc, Eaton rear and Dana 60 front diff. Tell me whatcha think. 8-)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/hardline_42/Picture001.jpg


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/hardline_42/Picture008.jpg

NJSPEEDER
11-02-2006, 02:50 PM
sweet. what are your plans for it?

hardline_42
11-02-2006, 02:56 PM
sweet. what are your plans for it?

Umm. Let's see.

1) Hide it from my wife for as long as I can

2) Lower it by 3" (take out the body lift) so I can get into it without a running start

3) Go off-roading!

4) Swap in a turbo diesel drivetrain and throw on some sweet, sweet stacks

WayFast84
11-02-2006, 03:03 PM
It looks like its in good shape!


1) Hide it from my wife for as long as I can
2) Lower it by 3" (take out the body lift) so I can get into it without a running start


ROFL!!

bad64chevelle
11-02-2006, 03:03 PM
Nice!!! Thats gonna be fun!

hardline_42
11-02-2006, 03:15 PM
It looks like its in good shape!


The suspension is "custom" (that means jerry rigged to hell) and the front diff needs gears, but the body is totally rust-free and the frame has been stripped and POR-15'd. The engine is a pretty high-winding little thing (only three years since the speed shop put it together) with a big lopey cam that doesn't make much power down low, but I guess the 4.56 gears help move those swampers. Plus I talked the guy down about 400 bucks so I'm happy.

Rich189
11-02-2006, 03:17 PM
looks like a good base :} u actually look close to me if u need a hand getting it rigged up right lemme know (not that im great with suspensions or anything but a hand is a hand)

qwikz28
11-02-2006, 03:21 PM
nice! definitely jake approved

hardline_42
11-02-2006, 03:23 PM
looks like a good base :} u actually look close to me if u need a hand getting it rigged up right lemme know (not that im great with suspensions or anything but a hand is a hand)

Thanks Rich. I actually haven't updated my profile, but I live in Englishtown now (you may have heard of it). The only thing it really needs is for that God awful body lift to come off and new gears set up up front. I don't wanna tackle setting up the gears myself though.

BonzoHansen
11-02-2006, 06:53 PM
...you'll never finish the Camaro... :)

98tadriver
11-02-2006, 07:43 PM
Umm. Let's see.

1) Hide it from my wife for as long as I can

2) Lower it by 3" (take out the body lift) so I can get into it without a running start

3) Go off-roading!

4) Swap in a turbo diesel drivetrain and throw on some sweet, sweet stacks

you forgot one more--

5) Run over stupid ricers! :nod:

camaro2you
11-02-2006, 07:49 PM
you forgot one more--

5) Run over stupid ricers! :nod:

thump, thump, what was that? unno man, ah well.

BonzoHansen
11-02-2006, 07:58 PM
thump, thump, what was that? unno man, ah well.

You better back up and take a look.
Thump thump.

hardline_42
11-02-2006, 09:09 PM
You better back up and take a look.
Thump thump.

LOL! You know that scene from the original Fast and the Furious where those civics drive under the truck? I'm pretty sure they could do it for real with this thing. But not before I remove some ricer stickers with the exhaust dumps! And oh ye of little faith Bonzo. The Camaro is still number one but I want something fun to drive this winter. Plus it's already very close to how I want it.

enRo
11-02-2006, 09:35 PM
may i suggest another 4" of lift??? :lol:

1QWIKBIRD
11-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Umm. Let's see.

1) Hide it from my wife for as long as I can

2) Lower it by 3" (take out the body lift) so I can get into it without a running start

3) Go off-roading!

4) Swap in a turbo diesel drivetrain and throw on some sweet, sweet stacks

Would that thing need stability papers and such??? Body looks good, which is the real bitch with older iron....the rest is easy.

What diesel drivetrain ya considering? Cummins or Duramax or Powerstroke?? That would be a killer deal in a beast like that.

V
11-02-2006, 10:28 PM
How much off a block lift is on that thing?(between axle and springs)

Teds89IROC
11-03-2006, 05:56 AM
have fun with it!

79dizZy28
11-03-2006, 09:04 AM
sounds like a good plan, me like :)

HardcoreZ28
11-03-2006, 09:42 AM
Looks sweet....lifted trucks are definitely a lot of fun and with the frame being POR'd already your protected good for winter. Might want to undercoat the body panels as well for added durability. Just watch for black ice still......I almost flipped mine 2 years ago on 78 because I lost it on black ice and caught traction while I was completely sideways....felt the two left side tires leave the ground and land again.....scary high center of gravity.

hardline_42
11-03-2006, 10:24 AM
Would that thing need stability papers and such??? Body looks good, which is the real bitch with older iron....the rest is easy.

What diesel drivetrain ya considering? Cummins or Duramax or Powerstroke?? That would be a killer deal in a beast like that.

Ahh, but that's the beauty of it. No tilt test required when you register it as a collector vehicle. I confirmed this with both the DMV and Parsons. The only test it has to pass is the functional odometer test.

I'm torn between diesels. I'd like to go with a Cummins cause they're indestructible, but I might have an easier time with a Duramax (and it keeps it all Chevy). Then I could run it on french fry grease. Any suggestions?

hardline_42
11-03-2006, 10:27 AM
may i suggest another 4" of lift??? :lol:

Funny. It's about as high as I can stand it right now. I literally rolled my ankle getting out of this thing cuz I landed on an uneven spot on the ground.

hardline_42
11-03-2006, 10:29 AM
How much off a block lift is on that thing?(between axle and springs)

Take a look:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/hardline_42/Picture006.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/hardline_42/Picture007.jpg

Looks like two 3" blocks stacked on top of each other.

NightRydaSS
11-03-2006, 10:32 AM
"THUMP, THUMP"
What was that? Neon, with a body kit!

JL8Jeff
11-03-2006, 10:44 AM
How are you going to register it as a collector vehicle and drive it? You can't drive the vehicle to work or for errands if it's a collector. And it surely wouldn't qualify if driving in snow. That is one scary dangerous looking lift setup as well. The body looks great, but it needs a lot of work to make it safe. And if you do need to do the stability test to make it a daily driver, that will cost some money to set up right. It might make a great farm vehicle, but be prepared for $$ to get it on the road. I'm sure that's why the guy is selling it.

V
11-03-2006, 10:46 AM
wow, i had a 78 f250 with a rear setup like that, i sold the truck quickly, if i had kept it, i would have had custom full-lift springs made and ripped those blocks out before i would have driven it off road. If you do take the thing offroading, keep an eye on those, they are a weak link.

hardline_42
11-03-2006, 10:51 AM
wow, i had a 78 f250 with a rear setup like that, i sold the truck quickly, if i had kept it, i would have had custom full-lift springs made and ripped those blocks out before i would have driven it off road. If you do take the thing offroading, keep an eye on those, they are a weak link.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll be replacing those with some quality lift springs. I'm not a fan of lift/lower blocks and with the pinion angle on this sucker it doesn't need anymore help wrapping up the axle.

LT!freak94
11-03-2006, 06:56 PM
hey man check out this site for parts for that thing their great people and its a fun site have fun with it oh and its all wheelin www.njfourwheelers.com/forums check it out my name on their is 88rangerkid c ya later and how much was that quad for sale

hardline_42
11-03-2006, 08:33 PM
hey man check out this site for parts for that thing their great people and its a fun site have fun with it oh and its all wheelin www.njfourwheelers.com/forums check it out my name on their is 88rangerkid c ya later and how much was that quad for sale

Thanks for the link LT. I'll have to check it out. It's funny but I didn't ever look at the quad the whole time I was out there! So you're in Browns Mills? My parents and little bro' live there. I hear there's some good trails in that direction.

LT!freak94
11-05-2006, 12:14 AM
ya man we got some nice trucks ou this way alotta people come out here their are nice trails out in atco to right across from the track tha we hit up lol its funny never knew bought it till i got my truck that red road right across from it go all the way down and on the dirt road their are holes out thier that will probly swallow that thing alive lol still nice

1QWIKBIRD
11-05-2006, 08:34 PM
.......I'm torn between diesels. I'd like to go with a Cummins cause they're indestructible, but I might have an easier time with a Duramax (and it keeps it all Chevy). Then I could run it on french fry grease. Any suggestions?

I not an expert on diesels, but I bought a 1997 Dodge over the summer with the older 12V Turbo Cummins and its a nice on lots of different levels. Good on fuel, plenty of power, and reasonaby quick for a 3/4 ton Ext. Cab 4x4. I don't have any experience with the Duramax or the newer 6.0L Powerstrokes. Check out www.turbodieselregistry.com for info on all the cummins/dodge stuff and swap info. An older 12V Cummins might be a good candidate because there is no computer controls, it all mechanical injection, which might make for an easier swap. The 24V Cummins, the newer Powerstrokes and the Duramax all are more powerful, but have the added complexity of computer controled injection systems and such. Just a thought.

Good luck and have fun
Chris

IROCZman15
11-06-2006, 09:15 PM
thats a raw-ass truck

bad ass!

enjoy it man

bitchincamaro
11-07-2006, 10:30 AM
How are you going to register it as a collector vehicle and drive it? You can't drive the vehicle to work or for errands if it's a collector. And it surely wouldn't qualify if driving in snow. That is one scary dangerous looking lift setup as well. The body looks great, but it needs a lot of work to make it safe. And if you do need to do the stability test to make it a daily driver, that will cost some money to set up right. It might make a great farm vehicle, but be prepared for $$ to get it on the road. I'm sure that's why the guy is selling it.

its a triangle inspection sticker, when it is insured it cant be a primary driver, all lights, speedo and horn have to work (not 100% about the horn), but it is safety and emissions exempt! it also cant be driven over 2500 miles a year.

a buddy of mine had a 69 pickup on 38's, he had a lot of lift, probably around the same height as that one, and also had blocks in the rear. the truck had a 350 and a 4speed, he could do burnouts on the cement and you could watch the rear separating from the blocks from the spring wrapping up. we wheeled the **** out of it and didnt have any problems, but i would still reccomend changing it. he also couldnt find a locker for the eaton. i would save the $ and effort and stick with the 350.

cool truck good luck with it.

hardline_42
11-07-2006, 11:04 AM
its a triangle inspection sticker, when it is insured it cant be a primary driver, all lights, speedo and horn have to work (not 100% about the horn), but it is safety and emissions exempt! it also cant be driven over 2500 miles a year.

a buddy of mine had a 69 pickup on 38's, he had a lot of lift, probably around the same height as that one, and also had blocks in the rear. the truck had a 350 and a 4speed, he could do burnouts on the cement and you could watch the rear separating from the blocks from the spring wrapping up. we wheeled the **** out of it and didnt have any problems, but i would still reccomend changing it. he also couldnt find a locker for the eaton. i would save the $ and effort and stick with the 350.

cool truck good luck with it.

Yeah, I have the same registration on my camaro. They didn't check anything other than the odometer (I had no working signal lights or brake lights!) and I had my regular insurance (non-collector). I passed with no problems. The only requirements are that you stay under 3000 miles a year and you need to keep the printout they give you with your mileage on it as proof for the next time time renew the registration. No use restrictions are placed on it by the DMV (the collector insurance agencies require that you keep it in a garage, have a separate daily driver and only drive it to shows and for pleasure on the weekends) other than the mileage. I also checked with the insurance I have for my other cars and they will insure a collector vehicle, no problem. Granted, they won't give me what I would get from a place like Hagerty, but I have all the driving freedom I want (as long as I disconnect the speedo ;-) ) for only a few bucks more a year.

The truck is gonna be lowered significantly before I take it out. The body lift is coming out first and foremost, then the lift blocks. The 44's are going down to 38's for a total drop of 10" from where it's at now. The front gears are going in with maybe an air locker, some miscellaneous body work and some bull bars and winches front and back. That's all I really want for it for now. Also, I haven't found much info about that Eaton rear end. If I can't find any good stuff for it, I might have to swap it out for a 14-bolt.

LT!freak94
11-07-2006, 04:33 PM
how much lift is on it now do you know i would take the body lift off then put like 40 inch grownd hawgs cuz they measure like 38 or some super swamper tsl's 39.5 i know a guy thats sellin them right now for i think 400 in good condition he followed and went through **** the 44's got stuck in and he was in 2 wheel things are nasty