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[Knipps]

how far can a town cop go and still be within his own jurisdiction?

jw because i was followed last night out of town and there were atleast two more cops tonight in the wrong town looking for people

[qwikz28]

fyi- i was pulled over in mahwah by a suffern cop once... he simply radioed in a mahwah cop, told him why he pulled me over, and let the mahwah cop take over. i didnt get a ticket but i dont see why he couldnt do that

[Knipps]

i keep seeing ramsey cops in mahwah.

the one the other night followed me down franklin tpke to bosco where i got on 17 then got off at MacArthur & he gave up (but followed me off the exit)

[qwikz28]

i keep seeing ramsey cops in mahwah.

the one the other night followed me down franklin tpke to bosco where i got on 17 then got off at MacArthur & he gave up (but followed me off the exit)

damn thats quite a ways for him to be following you... i never had a problem with ramsey cops. they seem to be nice and respectful. mahwah cops on the other hand always bother me, especially late at night on Macarthur. i swear that road is a speed trap

[johnjzjz]

it depends on the chief -- some will in a high speed chase will let them go 50 miles if need be

[Knipps]

damn thats quite a ways for him to be following you... i never had a problem with ramsey cops. they seem to be nice and respectful. mahwah cops on the other hand always bother me, especially late at night on Macarthur. i swear that road is a speed trap

oh definitely, they know people love that straight away
when i went to high school i'd take macarthur up b/c i could have some fun before school started

[Teds89IROC]

i keep seeing ramsey cops in mahwah.

the one the other night followed me down franklin tpke to bosco where i got on 17 then got off at MacArthur & he gave up (but followed me off the exit)


maybe that was my cousin :lol: He always patrols over there

[NJSPEEDER]

if an officer has already started the process of pulling you over it can be considered persuit even if the lights and sirens are not going.
the example would be if a cop clocked someone speeding and had pulled behind the person and while doing the initial call in of the vehicle information you crossed into another jurisdiction, they still have the ability to pull you over and issue a ticket. they are supposed to make the local jurisdiction aware of the situation before they exit their own vehicle though, just for safety.

[Mike]

a cop in any nj jurisdiction has full powers on and off duty while anywhere in the state...

[maroman88]

yea, a cop can pull you over while on duty in any town in NJ and write a ticket as long as its on that towns ticket book, an off duty officer can as well but i wouldnt recomend they try to pull anyone over in there POV lol. once your a sworn law enforcement officer in NJ, whether on or off duty, you have full police powers within the state. port authority owns, they have full powers in new york and new jersey :)

[Fast92RS]

I beleive since they passed a law that an officer can carry his firearm off duty anywhere in the country even if he is not in his home state makes him have police powers anywhere. Im not sure if they can pull people over for traffic violations.

[jimmyboy8301]

yea, a cop can pull you over while on duty in any town in NJ and write a ticket as long as its on that towns ticket book, an off duty officer can as well but i wouldnt recomend they try to pull anyone over in there POV lol. once your a sworn law enforcement officer in NJ, whether on or off duty, you have full police powers within the state. port authority owns, they have full powers in new york and new jersey :)

it does not have to be on that towns ticket book. the ticket money will go to the issuing officers town. most towns mutual aid out for eachother meaning they help eachother out. they don't neccessarily need to have the violation happen in their town and as for our police powers: any new jersey law enforcement officer has full police powers in all 50 states on and off duty.

[unstable bob gable]

it does not have to be on that towns ticket book. the ticket money will go to the issuing officers town. most towns mutual aid out for eachother meaning they help eachother out. they don't neccessarily need to have the violation happen in their town and as for our police powers: any new jersey law enforcement officer has full police powers in all 50 states on and off duty.

Hmmm, ya learn sumthin' new everyday...:)

[Knipps]

it does not have to be on that towns ticket book. the ticket money will go to the issuing officers town. most towns mutual aid out for eachother meaning they help eachother out. they don't neccessarily need to have the violation happen in their town and as for our police powers: any new jersey law enforcement officer has full police powers in all 50 states on and off duty.

they're everywhere!!! :shifty: :shifty:

[qwikz28]

lol if i were a cop i would go to a completely different state and mess with people. imagine being in newark and being pulled over by a montana state police car with a really country looking white guy coming out the car... i dont know what im talking about

[bad64chevelle]

yeah....about that jake....

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

in PA state troopers cant pull you over if either they are not wearing their hat or 2 if one of the lights is out on their patrol car! so what makes a NJ Cop so special that they can pull you over off duty and in other states? and i know they cant pull you over in another state for a fact because there was an issue at the delaware water gap a lil while ago were a truck full of drugs whent through the gap into Pa and NJ cop couldnt pull it over until a few miels up were Pa troopers got him!

[V]

If im standing on the border line of mexico with a huge diamond i stole and a cop is on the US side.. then i'm untouchable?

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

If im standing on the border line of mexico with a huge diamond i stole and a cop is on the US side.. then i'm untouchable?

you need to add more of a twist to that, YOur standing on the border of mexico with your diamond and a "NJ" cop is right there if you slap him/her in the face are you untouchable?

[Knipps]

If im standing on the border line of mexico with a huge diamond i stole and a cop is on the US side.. then i'm untouchable?

blue streak :lol:

[SupermanX24]

great movie, good point too.

[jimmyboy8301]

in PA state troopers cant pull you over if either they are not wearing their hat or 2 if one of the lights is out on their patrol car! so what makes a NJ Cop so special that they can pull you over off duty and in other states? and i know they cant pull you over in another state for a fact because there was an issue at the delaware water gap a lil while ago were a truck full of drugs whent through the gap into Pa and NJ cop couldnt pull it over until a few miels up were Pa troopers got him!

i'm sure there are other states that are recignized law enforcement through all 50 states however since i work in NJ i don't worry about other states. NJLE powers in other states were granted by a bill passed through legislature. I never said anything about being pulled over by a NJ cop in another state off duty i said "having full police powers off duty in all 50 states" IE: if they are witness to a bank robbery in kansas they have the power to act in that situation. I see no reason why they would pull over a car off duty in another state. As far the police chasing the car across state lines it depends on the SOP's of that particular department. I knew of several instances where town and state police from NJ have chased a vehicle across state lines into PA and affected an arrest back from when I was a dispatcher. There is no absolute answer in this type of thing and no definates. There are WAY too many variables and again it depends on that particular departments SOP's. As far as PA troopers not being allowed to stop you if they do not have their hat on or if a light is out that is most likely one of those "you can't park your horse on main street on a sunday" type of things. I'm sure if the motor pool is short and they need to pull a car to use with a light out that particular car is going on the road and will most likely pull a stop also. And i'm sure the ticket written will hold up in court also even if the one little flashing light is out.

[jimmyboy8301]

blue streak :lol:

maybe you can get some powers from superman and fly away too after you do it lol

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

A ticket will not stand in court if trooper is not in uniform or car has a light out! i heard this strait from a pa state trooper!

[jimmyboy8301]

A ticket will not stand in court if trooper is not in uniform or car has a light out! i heard this strait from a pa state trooper!

again not everything is absolute in this business. it may indeed be an SOP but there are always extenuating circumstances.

[Mike]

A ticket will not stand in court if trooper is not in uniform or car has a light out! i heard this strait from a pa state trooper!


lol so go get pulled over durring the day and ask the cop if you can check his lights before you go........

and tell a detective or plainclothes cop that you need him to go put on his dress uniform before he can write you up...not that detectives will waste their time pulling speeders over, but they are known to stop suspected dwi's or streetracers.
or
tell it to the undercovers in philly that are in street cars busting up ************....

[jimmyboy8301]

lol so go get pulled over durring the day and ask the cop if you can check his lights before you go........

and tell a detective or plainclothes cop that you need him to go put on his dress uniform before he can write you up...not that detectives will waste their time pulling speeders over, but they are known to stop suspected dwi's or streetracers.
or
tell it to the undercovers in philly that are in street cars busting up ************....

well said my friend

[PBodyGT87]

So you'd take a ticket from a cop pulling you over off duty in plain clothes? How do you know he's not a cop? How do you know you're not getting pulled over by some con artist who wants to kill you when you roll down the window? I've been pulled over by a cop in Ringoes in plain clothes. He had an unmarked car with strobes, but he was in civilian dress when he approached my car. He gave me a hard time, no written warning, but he immediately told me to have a nice day when I pointed out that I could not properly decipher whether or not he was an officer of the law if he did not represent himself in any uniform. So you'd take a ticket from a guy like that?

[Mike]

no i would not pull over for someone in there personal vehicle off duty, but no where in my post did i say i would or did i say anything about off duty officers at all.

and people are taking "police powers on and off duty" as me saying they can pull you over. that wont happen. im refering to off duty cops happening upon a crime in progress etc.

[PBodyGT87]

um thanks liz... no i would not pull over for someone in there personal vehicle off duty, but no where in my post did i say i would or did i say anything about off duty officers at all.

and people are taking "police powers on and off duty" as me saying they can pull you over. that wont happen. im refering to off duty cops happening upon a crime in progress etc.

You have to be more clear in your argument when you're talking about crimes in progress in comparison to minor street offenses, such as speeding or traffic violations, which is what Phil was referring to. We're not talking about undercover stings or crime rings. We're talking about one plain clothed cop and a potential traffic ticket hanging in the balance. So is it right that a cop out of uniform would pull over a speeder/traffic-violator and issue a ticket? That's the only question that wants an answer.

[79CamaroDiva]

a street clothed/plain clothed officer CAN call in and report what he/she sees and issue a ticket, which will then be mailed to the home address of the offending person.. has happened to at least one member here that i know of, who can chime in if he wants.

[jimmyboy8301]

You have to be more clear in your argument when you're talking about crimes in progress in comparison to minor street offenses, such as speeding or traffic violations, which is what Phil was referring to. We're not talking about undercover stings or crime rings. We're talking about one plain clothed cop and a potential traffic ticket hanging in the balance. So is it right that a cop out of uniform would pull over a speeder/traffic-violator and issue a ticket? That's the only question that wants an answer.

the last part of your statement IS legal.

[Mike]

We're talking about one plain clothed cop and a potential traffic ticket hanging in the balance. So is it right that a cop out of uniform would pull over a speeder/traffic-violator and issue a ticket? That's the only question that wants an answer.

i answered that, street racing is still a traffic violation, and philly is using undercover officers to amung a number of things ISSUE TICKETS. And detectives and other higher ranking officers who dont wear uniforms are known to be in car chases, make stops when they see suspected dwi or other serious problems. i also already answered that i was at no time talking about OFFDUTY officers. it would take one sereiously DUMB cop to use his personal vehicle to make a traffic stop while off duty and walk up to an unknown persons car unarmed and without a radio to call for backup.

[Tru2Chevy]

Please keep personal matters personal, they have no bearing on this conversation.

- Justin