What are people smoking?

[WayFast84]

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1704

Like im gonna spend more money on headers then on heads..

[BonzoHansen]

They are stainless, that ups the $$. I've seen lots worse.

[Jersey_TA]

Atleast you don't have the corvette tax to deal with :(

[unstable bob gable]

That ain't a bad price for stainless L/T headers.

[WildBillyT]

That ain't a bad price for stainless L/T headers.

And a y-pipe. Especially if they fit right and leave you with a decent amount of ground clearance.

[Batman]

Ummmm heads aren't made of Stainless.........Good thing about that is unless you damage them it will be the last set you ever need. And a good set of NEW heads will be alot more then $1000.00

[unstable bob gable]

And a y-pipe. Especially if they fit right and leave you with a decent amount of ground clearance.

Even better. I didn't notice that a y-pipe is included.

[WayFast84]

i still think 1 grand for headers and a ypipe is stupid, i dont care what they are made out of.

[Tru2Chevy]

Well then don't buy them....

- Justin

[unstable bob gable]

i still think 1 grand for headers and a ypipe is stupid, i dont care what they are made out of.

I think yer hitting another kinda pipe!:nod:
Why ain't you at school?

[WayFast84]

I think yer hitting another kinda pipe!:nod:
Why ain't you at school?

because we didnt have school today.

[Batman]

I paid $1200 for my Grotty's and $1100.00 for my kooks. Stuff like that you normally get what you pay for.

[Fast92RS]

Well then don't buy them....

- Justin

:nod:

[BonzoHansen]

Well then don't buy them....

- Justin
So young and yet so wise...


Hey WF, you won't spend $1000 on quality headers, but you want to buy a rotted out mess of a firebird for $500??

You could have this for a few bucks more...

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/268941803.html

[enRo]

Hey WF, you won't spend $1000 on quality headers, but you want to buy a rotted out mess of a firebird for $500??
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:funny:

Steel/Aluminized Headers/Y-pipe wont last as long as Stainless steel, anytime. So instead of buying 2 or 3 sets of steelies cuz they rotted out, mind as well shed out the $1000+ for stainless steel and be happy for a LONG TIME cuz thats how long they will last u.

[Kid Racer]

well ima with wayfast on this one i wouldnt buy them neather...

[Tru2Chevy]

well ima with wayfast on this one i wouldnt buy them neather...

By the time you buy other LTs (that mostly have ground clearance issues), have them coated, and then pay for a y-pipe, you'll have spent about the same amount.....why not do it in one shot, and get the bonus of stainless?

- Justin

[alamantia]

My lemons headers were $3,500 i wish I could have gotten away with a grand but you get what you pay for, you want to buy ****, buy some cheap ass 1,000 headers

[Savage_Messiah]

ok now 3500 is a little crazy.

[Batman]

:stupid:

[alamantia]

How much would you pay for custom stainless headers with split flanges, collectors and EGT? and where would you buy them?

http://www.lemonsheaders.com/products/camnovassbb.htm

[BonzoHansen]

Not a nickle over $3400. But I am cheap. :)

Hey, ATS wants $2000 for their SS headers for 1st gen LS conversion headers. They are pretty and all, and I might use their mounts, but for a street car, um, my pockets are not that deep.

[alamantia]

the problem probably lies with tooling, I could not buy off their off the shelf BB headers as they were designed for camaros with standard frames, of course the tubular frames I have do offer more clearance than stock frame rails but because stock clearance from pan to ground is about what 8" and I have 4" thay had to custome bend a set which tucked up under teh firewall for teh collectors to have proper clearance, and I still scuffed them up when the front wheels come back on teh ground, this was corrected with bigger snubbers on the lower control arms, I agree that off teh shelf sets should not cost more than $1500, I use Kooks on my street car and they were about that much, but it is not unheard of to pay a good price for custom tubes when the need arises

[WildBillyT]

$1500 is where I'd tap out and make my own instead. It's taxing but certainly not impossible.

The thing about headers is that most people have no trouble dropping extra cash if it means they fit well and last. Most cheapie headers fit like hell and rot out. Even Jet-Hot coated headers won't last forever if they are driven during winter (salt on the roads).

[alamantia]

Ive yet to see a pair of Jet hots on a street car last more than a year or two without showing some form of corrosion, thats why I am a fan of stainless

[V]

i paid like 1150 for my QTPs w/y pipe, no complaints other than about the owner..

[JL8Jeff]

I'd probably max out around $500 for a set of stainless headers. And who keeps a car long enough to rot out a set of headers? :lol:

[ar0ck]

$725 for a set of QTP race long tubes. You get what you pay for and stainless isn't a joke.

[Rob WS6]

Thats NOT a bad deal. Consider Hooker Supercomp LT's for thridgens are about $700 coated. Then you need the Mufflex y-pipe which is $3-400. So theres your $1000-1100 and you still dont have stainless headers. Do the math!

[j0n]

ala-...whatever your name is those are some baaadass headers

[deadtrend1]

...... Do the math!

One F--F ---Fish. T--T-Two F-FF---Fish. I give up ....

[alamantia]

ala-...whatever your name is those are some baaadass headers


I dont take the credit, its my dads old buissness building cars and now hes got his home paid off and sitting pretty with his toys and hes nice enough to start sharing them with me lately now that I have proven that i dont crash them, now my brother on the otherhand hes good hes restarting the buissness, they are showing the pro-mod www.mulliganmotorsports.com he finished building with Janice racing and GMpreformance got word of the car and they want it in there show in detroit where they unvail the 4th gen and they want to paint it in this color, they called today asking for the paint codes......

[Knipps]

One F--F ---Fish. T--T-Two F-FF---Fish. I give up ....

http://aftergrogblog.blogs.com/agb/images/Cat_Hat.jpg

[j0n]

I dont take the credit, its my dads old buissness building cars and now hes got his home paid off and sitting pretty with his toys and hes nice enough to start sharing them with me lately now that I have proven that i dont crash them, now my brother on the otherhand hes good hes restarting the buissness, they are showing the pro-mod www.mulliganmotorsports.com he finished building with Janice racing and GMpreformance got word of the car and they want it in there show in detroit where they unvail the 4th gen and they want to paint it in this color, they called today asking for the paint codes......

that car is ****ing beautiful...i hope i get the chance to see it tearin up the strip this season!

[V]

GMpreformance got word of the car and they want it in there show in detroit where they unvail the 4th gen and they want to paint it in this color, they called today asking for the paint codes......

huh? can you just explain that a bit more

[ryanfx]

Ive yet to see a pair of Jet hots on a street car last more than a year or two without showing some form of corrosion, thats why I am a fan of stainless

I've got coated pacesetters for over a year... no corrosion =)

[alamantia]

thats cool about the headers, i havent seen any personaly, but it may be because ive seen a lot of ****** hooker jegs jobs for like $129 a pair, i have had stuff HPC coated before, I havent heard of anyone useing those guys lately, i guess Jet is better

[alamantia]

huh? can you just explain that a bit more

GM preformance has a booth at the Autorama carshow in Detriot Michican March 9th 10th & 11th and they are paying to have the pro-mod shipped to be in their booth with a concept 4th gen. As first we thought it was BS but they called today to get the paint code of the orange so they can paint the new 4th gen that color, I want to get a plane ticket and a hotel to go with them.

[WayFast84]

do you mean 5th gen?

[alamantia]

yeah, my bad 5th gen

[V]

lol, ok thats what really didnt make sense, and i was thinking u were talking about the NAIAS in detroit which passed already, plus i thought you meant the first unvieling of the new camaro, which already happened.

[unstable bob gable]

BRIKA, BRAKA, FIRECRACKA!
SIS! BOOM! BAH!
STAINLESS HEADERS, STAINLESS HEADERS!
RAH! RAH! RAH!

[alamantia]

lol, ok thats what really didnt make sense, and i was thinking u were talking about the NAIAS in detroit which passed already, plus i thought you meant the first unvieling of the new camaro, which already happened.

Dude, im closing on my first home this week (which i cant afford) and my brain has done shut down on me.. also, the info I am getting from my brother has been in dribbs and drabs, last week, when i first heard of this, I thought he was ****in with me, now im looking into a cheap flight, i told them that if this was so real then to have GM comp plane tickets and hotel rooms, right? Whatever though, id go just to be part of that for a weekend. Joe, the driver, is already in the process of setting setting up dates to run the car including the PC richards night of thrills at Raceway, prior to that he will be renting out Atco on weekdays with two other drivers and hopefully even doing some passes on regular saturdays at Atco and maybe even a sunday or two this spring at Raceway, if everything goes smoothly dont hesitate to come out and see us, if you see the car in the pits, swing by introduce yourselves, we apreciate all the support, all of us involved are quite excited! my brother will be there with his blown 68 camaro, my father with his tubular chassis 63 split window vette and hopefully me in my fathers old SS/DA 69 camaro, pending on my financial situation at the time, if not, ill be in my 02 z28 running 12's zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[WayFast84]

Ok now that i think about it, for the headers, y pipe its not bad, for people with real jobs and real performance mods, How ever I just dont see how they can be so expensive considering you can get a running car, that the headers are ment to be for, for less. O well i guess its for people who have a decent thirdgen, but not a drag car, and are waiting for a vette or something.

[unstable bob gable]

BRIKA, BRAKA, FIRECRACKA!
SIS! BOOM! BAH!
STAINLESS HEADERS, STAINLESS HEADERS!
RAH! RAH! RAH!

[WildBillyT]

Ok now that i think about it, for the headers, y pipe its not bad, for people with real jobs and real performance mods, How ever I just dont see how they can be so expensive considering you can get a running car, that the headers are ment to be for, for less. O well i guess its for people who have a decent thirdgen, but not a drag car, and are waiting for a vette or something.

You ought to see some of the other stuff out there. :shock: N.O.S. parts and such for old rides can be disgustingly expensive. Like $3000 for a quarter panel, $14,000 for an induction setup, etc.

[unstable bob gable]

You ought to see some of the other stuff out there. :shock: N.O.S. parts and such for old rides can be disgustingly expensive. Like $3000 for a quarter panel, $14,000 for an induction setup, etc.

He's a kid. He doesn't realize what a long, hard path a car guy has to travel.:wink:

[1984camaroz28]

i spent 4k on my ETP HEADS and 1100 on my kooks so my headers where still cheaper

[WildBillyT]

He's a kid. He doesn't realize what a long, hard path a car guy has to travel.:wink:

Yeah, the ultimate goal is to make the cheapest mistakes possible :rofl: