How much would you pay?

[WayFast84]

For a 68 camaro straight 6 with 69,585 miles
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_05.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_07.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_09.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_04.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_03.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_02.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286.jpg

[BigAls87Z28]

Hrm....3 grand.

[nj85z28]

would you prefer arm or leg?

[unstable bob gable]

ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

http://arbyte.us/blog_archive/2005/11/drevil_million_dollars.jpg

[jimmyboy8301]

nothing

[unstable bob gable]

Dis much, beyotch!

http://i11.tinypic.com/47d4c8z.jpg

[WildBillyT]

For a 68 camaro straight 6 with 69,585 miles
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_02.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/J7286_03.jpg

If the body was very straight, $9k.

Honestly though, who gives a rat's a** about mileage in a car this old...

[bad64chevelle]

nothing

???

[qwikz28]

is it for sale?

[WayFast84]

is it for sale?

yes and the asking price is like $5995 and no i wont give you any contact info till i make an offer and its refused

[jimmyboy8301]

???
i wouldnt' give any money for that car, i don't like it

yes and the asking price is like $5995 and no i wont give you any contact info till i make an offer and its refused

gay

[Savage_Messiah]

yes and the asking price is like $5995 and no i wont give you any contact info till i make an offer and its refused

You do not have 6,000 dollars... therefore you should serve the greater good of the community and give us the contact info...

at least IM it to me :nod:

[oh one ls1 SS]

yes and the asking price is like $5995 and no i wont give you any contact info till i make an offer and its refused

gay

[BonzoHansen]

Nice original & well thought out response. :lol:

For 6k I'd jump all over it if is solid. Have you seen it in person?

[WildBillyT]

For 6k I'd jump all over it if it is solid.

Wayfast, if you are interested you absolutely have to make sure it's solid. Otherwise it will cost you a lot more than 6 grand to get it in proper working order. And by a lot I mean thousands of dollars, not hundreds.

[qwikz28]

yes and the asking price is like $5995 and no i wont give you any contact info till i make an offer and its refused

i was just curious. i can't afford that anyway. but seriously, that price is pretty good. have it checked out before anything

[BonzoHansen]

I know one thing, it has a pretty good sleeper look. I wouldn't change the outside at all, even the hub caps are great. Just slide some HP in the rails....

[johnjzjz]

if you were to buy it as a investment -- your 6000 would be worth 12,000 in 3 to 5 years ---- thats way more than any bank or CD --- but as a new driver in 2 years using it as your first car would be a distaster -- buy a dumpster throw away for your first car --- now if you were to cloan the car as a lets say Z-28 4 speed R/S black on black w/ 12 bolt front disc with nice wheels ----- or a SS 396 4 speed w/ AC PS PB 12 bolt hugger orange w/ black all the correct badges on both --- Value in 3 to 5 years $50,000 / $80,000 -- BUT they would have to be 9 point cars street drivers-- cost of doing 25 thousand plus 6 to buy --- its what i would do but if i bought it i would bring it to Carlisle in august and sell 40 / 50 todays money -- first gen camaros are the hottest market and cloans bring 75 persent of the originals if as nice or better -- jz

[bad64chevelle]

if you were to buy it as a investment -- your 6000 would be worth 12,000 in 3 to 5 years ---- thats way more than any bank or CD --- but as a new driver in 2 years using it as your first car would be a distaster -- buy a dumpster throw away for your first car --- now if you were to cloan the car as a lets say Z-28 4 speed R/S black on black w/ 12 bolt front disc with nice wheels ----- or a SS 396 4 speed w/ AC PS PB 12 bolt hugger orange w/ black all the correct badges on both --- Value in 3 to 5 years $50,000 / $80,000 -- BUT they would have to be 9 point cars street drivers-- cost of doing 25 thousand plus 6 to buy --- its what i would do but if i bought it i would bring it to Carlisle in august and sell 40 / 50 todays money -- first gen camaros are the hottest market and cloans bring 75 persent of the originals if as nice or better -- jz

:werd:

[WayFast84]

i think im gonna call them up and ask for some closer pics and everything, can some one with a teamcamaro member ship post to see how much it would be worth? im not paying 20 bucks to be a member yet, maybe if i get the car..

[bubba428]

idk man...it kinda looks like a beater...don't think its wort 6k

[V]

its a 1st gen, if its solid with good glass and decent interior, its easily worth 6k

[JL8Jeff]

If the body and floors are solid the car is easily worth the price. Mileage, engine, trans and rear don't really matter much on a car like that. There's no cost to join Team Camaro.

[WayFast84]

I know one thing, it has a pretty good sleeper look. I wouldn't change the outside at all, even the hub caps are great. Just slide some HP in the rails....

I was thinking if I can get this, wich I prolly can since i can easily double the value, I will put the 400sbc in it, and then just get a 350 use my lg4 heads, and my xe262 and then use my headers and everything else and daily drive the 84. Its all about convincing my mom thats its worth the investment.

[WayFast84]

I sent an email to the dealer ship it is at, telling them I was verry intrested and asked for more, closer up pics, asked if they had any paper work, and if its an automatic or a manual since the pics i have so far dont show it, and they dont list the trans.

[WildBillyT]

Wayfast,

It does not cost anything to join Team Camaro.

The only thing posted so far that I don't agree with is the projected value of the car.

6 cyl cars have 6 cyl VINs, which will hurt the value.

I would say that this car would top out somewhere in the 20's, unless it's a well done pro touring or pro street car. It can never be a well done clone because of the VIN number.

[WayFast84]

Im sure I could Get a nice pretty penny from it, My main thing is just getting the car so when I do have the money I can still have it then start working on it. If i did get it, i would keep it like that till its running with a v8 in it, and prolly a 6 spd, then paint it sunset orange metalic. with a vynal roof, and then get some nicer wheels and a spoiler and enjoy her

[jimmyboy8301]

Im sure I could Get a nice pretty penny from it, My main thing is just getting the car so when I do have the money I can still have it then start working on it. If i did get it, i would keep it like that till its running with a v8 in it, and prolly a 6 spd, then paint it sunset orange metalic. with a vynal roof, and then get some nicer wheels and a spoiler and enjoy her

if you are working with that much money, honestly you should invest it in a high yield intrest account. your more likely to make money that way. Even if you buy that car for 5k, put 15k into it, that right there is 20k. That would most likely take you YEARS to complete. Then your not guaranteed to make your money back either, let alone doubling or tripling what you put into it. If thats what your looking to do, your much better off investing. If your looking for another project car then do what ever you want. My opinion is still I would not do it.

[bad64chevelle]

I have 13 into my car, and ive been offered almost 4 times that...Its money in the bank at this point if you go about it the right way. I think its always worth it, if you have the money, you will most likely always be able to get what you have into it back out, and then some.

[WildBillyT]

I have 13 into my car, and ive been offered almost 4 times that...Its money in the bank at this point if you go about it the right way. I think its always worth it, if you have the money, you will most likely always be able to get what you have into it back out, and then some.

Not always IMO. If the car requires heavy repairs and he isn't equipped to handle them, he is going to have to shell out a lot of money just to get it in resaleable condition. It could be a "Hot Potato" car, where it's a good deal but it needs some big repair, leaving whoever gets stuck with it to shell out. Underneath the paint it could be full of bondo and fiberglass.

For guys like you (from what I have seen on here), me (quite frankly ;)) and a few others on here it's not that big a deal, because we can tackle a big project on our own. If this needs a big repair he will be in deep trouble pretty quickly.

Caveat Emptor.

[bad64chevelle]

Not always IMO. If the car requires heavy repairs and he isn't equipped to handle them, he is going to have to shell out a lot of money just to get it in resaleable condition. It could be a "Hot Potato" car, where it's a good deal but it needs some big repair, leaving whoever gets stuck with it to shell out. Underneath the paint it could be full of bondo and fiberglass.

For guys like you (from what I have seen on here), me (quite frankly ;)) and a few others on here it's not that big a deal, because we can tackle a big project on our own. If this needs a big repair he will be in deep trouble pretty quickly.

Caveat Emptor.

Oh I fully agree with you on that, for someone who has the time, and ability to do a car (like my Hardtop SS) it would be decently easy, but mostly time consuming. With the availability of reproduction parts (sheetmetal mostly) and since they are *relatively* inexpensive, restoring the car is not too bad. If the tools, skills, the will, or the understanding is not there it gets expensive, and even more time consuming. I was kinda just pointing out that the statement about the $$ investment compared to the bank. There are always those money pits that you cant get your money back out of, and case in point would be my dad's 54 Chevy (however lately they have been making a come back because of the tri-5s getting harder to find) He knows he would never get his money out of that car, but he doesnt really care, its something he really wants to have. I dont really care about the fact that I can get my $ back out of the car, I just want to enjoy it. However, knowing that in the back of my head, that god forbid anything ever happened, I could if I needed to.

[JL8Jeff]

Based on the car being somewhat low miles and looks mostly original, I could see it needing quite a few $$ just to make sure it's safe to drive. In your position Matt, I think you would have a hard time making the purchase and then being able to put the $$ and needed work into it. Yeah, the car could be worth $20-30K depending on what is done to it, but you won't be able to do what it needs so you probably wouldn't be able to make any significant money on it. You might be able to buy it now and flip it next year for a $1000 profit or so. That's not bad for the initial investment. But I tend to think there are some hidden issues with the car like floor rust or hidden body work. You really need to see it in person to determine what condition it's really in. Don't believe a word the dealer says!

[BonzoHansen]

I deleted the off-topic, argumentative posts.

WF, this car could be a screaming deal - but probably not, but you may end up way too deep over your head. If you did buy, where you going to store it?

If you do go look at it, I am sure there are some people here would go with you.

[bad64chevelle]

It looks like a decently clean car, try to look underneath it and check it out, take some underneath shots, and one of the trunk.

[88BluBird]

If you look closely at the interior pics you can see that there is a column shifter and drive positions.

[WildBillyT]

4 wheel manual drum brakes FTL. Easy to fix, but FTL nonetheless.

[BonzoHansen]

It is a 6cyl base model. It will have nothing!

[WildBillyT]

It is a 6cyl base model. It will have nothing!

Hey, there's a '69 JL8 6cyl out there somewhere. :D

[BonzoHansen]

Hey, there's a '69 JL8 6cyl out there somewhere. :D
But it is no 68! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TAdan]

Very interesting...Could you share the extra pics if the dealer sends them to you?

[NJSPEEDER]

it is an auto, first pic shows a column shift. a fairly typical straight 6 + power glide.
it woudl make for a nice little cruiser and if it is solid and easy resto to turn around for a few bucks profit. the 6cyl market has been steadily climbing the last several years.

[BonzoHansen]

it is an auto, first pic shows a column shift. a fairly typical straight 6 + power glide.
it woudl make for a nice little cruiser and if it is solid and easy resto to turn around for a few bucks profit. the 6cyl market has been steadily climbing the last several years.

It's the cheapest way to get in. Plus no one cares if you hack up a 6cyl base car. I'd still leave it looking just like that. Total sleeper.

[Mike]

i have a 68 straight six vert, much rougher shape....ive been offered 12k

[Rafterman]

yes and the asking price is like $5995 and no i wont give you any contact info till i make an offer and its refused

someone loves men

[Squirrel]

nothing
+ 1

[qwikz28]

i'd like to know howyou guys think the reproduction shells affected sales of these low end 1st gens

[BonzoHansen]

i'd like to know howyou guys think the reproduction shells affected sales of these low end 1st gensThat is cheaper than a dynacorn shell - and much more legal

[BonzoHansen]

+ 1Too bad, that would make a nice home for your LT1/T56

[NJSPEEDER]

:mrgreen:

[WildBillyT]

i'd like to know howyou guys think the reproduction shells affected sales of these low end 1st gens

The first gen shells are not all they are cracked up to be. They need a lot of finishing to be right. Not to mention that they will have titling issues in certain states.

[WayFast84]

:mrgreen:

DIBS

[WildBillyT]

DIBS

Now that's funny.

[NJSPEEDER]

he is only calling trying to call dibs because of what i know :mrgreen:

[BonzoHansen]

Too bad I already bought it. :p

[WayFast84]

he is only calling trying to call dibs because of what i know :mrgreen:

i bought it, its over, its not their any more!

[WildBillyT]

This is the one out west in PA, right? When I called the guy seemed pissed because a lot of people were jerking him around.

[Firebird67dude]

Idk if you bought it or what not. I didnt bother looking at the rest of the thread but form the one pic it looks like its an auto. The brake pedal is twice the size of the one that was in my 67 ans that was originally a straight 6 4spd car.

But what someone said those full body shells are crap.
If they were good I'd still have the 67 sitting in my driveway.

[BonzoHansen]

i have a 68 straight six vert, much rougher shape....ive been offered 12k

Amazing how less sheet metal = more $$. :)

[BigAls87Z28]

That really would make a great daily driver. Fix it up, throw some paint, maybe put on a 700R4 on the back of it, and take it for drives.

[BonzoHansen]

That really would make a great daily driver. Fix it up, throw some paint, maybe put on a 700R4 on the back of it, and take it for drives.

Eh, why bother. That little 6, tune up, probably gets 26+mpg.

[Knipps]

I was thinking if I can get this, wich I prolly can since i can easily double the value, I will put the 400sbc in it, and then just get a 350 use my lg4 heads, and my xe262 and then use my headers and everything else and daily drive the 84. Its all about convincing my mom thats its worth the investment.

what happened to...


make a deal and an offer, i dont want this car any more, I dont want to be around or intrested around cars any more.


:confused:

[BigAls87Z28]

Eh, why bother. That little 6, tune up, probably gets 26+mpg.

Why not? Wonder how involved doing a EFI upgrade would be? Maybe, if I had unlimited funds, put a 6L50E behind it, and 3.23 rears. Big brakes and air ride suspension....nice leather seats, AC and head...nice system...would m ake a HELL of a cruiser and maybe get 30+mpg. Suck on that, hybrid dbags.

[WayFast84]

ive never been so happy that a car has been sold, i hope it makes some one real happy and its not a clone.

[JL8Jeff]

6 cyl cars are great for building pro-touring cars out of. But it takes, time, $$$, skills, $$$, a plan, $$$ to build a pro-touring car.

[WildBillyT]

ive never been so happy that a car has been sold, i hope it makes some one real happy and its not a clone.

What could it be a clone of? It's a base model. Do you mean not turned into a clone? Because I'll bet it's a 68Z 6 months from now LOL.

[FBODS4EVER]

id offer 4000 as you can get a v8 one for 5995.

[johnjzjz]

just so you know the Baldwin cars as well as Nicky and others when they were purchased NEW by the dealers from ( COPO ) the police / taxi division of GM they were all base models - IE -= 6 cyl Vin's just so you know -- what i read you want to do will not increase the value that much , for me it the wrong way and will hurt the value -- no dought drilling holes in dumb places and alike the kind of thing in my shop we spend weeks fixing -- because you are young you do not realize the penitential of what can be done, and the fact you change your mind 25 times a second, the only idea you should be thinking about is -- if you do buy it clean and detail it -- no tools of an kind to be used on it -- come august trailer it out to PA , the Muscle car Chevy events July super Chevy and ask $12,000.00 for it -- take no less -- i do this for a living 35 years now you can double you investment money this year -- the people who tell you NO ( wont happen ) do not have any idea whats going on -- in November we did up a 69 car and made 12 thousand in the exchange but i have the money to spend -- its imposable to make 10 bucks out of 5 but inevitable to make 10 million out of 5 -- if you do it have fun and make a few bucks spend only what you have to not a Penney more -- jz--

[WildBillyT]

just so you know the Baldwin cars as well as Nicky and others when they were purchased NEW by the dealers from ( COPO ) the police / taxi division of GM they were all base models - IE -= 6 cyl Vin's just so you know -- what i read you want to do will not increase the value that much , for me it the wrong way and will hurt the value -- no dought drilling holes in dumb places and alike the kind of thing in my shop we spend weeks fixing -- because you are young you do not realize the penitential of what can be done, and the fact you change your mind 25 times a second, the only idea you should be thinking about is -- if you do buy it clean and detail it -- no tools of an kind to be used on it -- come august trailer it out to PA , the Muscle car Chevy events July super Chevy and ask $12,000.00 for it -- take no less -- i do this for a living 35 years now you can double you investment money this year -- the people who tell you NO ( wont happen ) do not have any idea whats going on -- in November we did up a 69 car and made 12 thousand in the exchange but i have the money to spend -- its imposable to make 10 bucks out of 5 but inevitable to make 10 million out of 5 -- if you do it have fun and make a few bucks spend only what you have to not a Penney more -- jz--

John,

I don't mean to piss on your parade but COPO cars (9560 and 9561) as well as Baldwin, Nickey, Yenko, Dana, Berger, and other factory supercars had V8 vins. I'm no expert but I'm not aware of any exceptions. Even if they were not ordered via COPO, most had at least a V8 vin so they could get the proper driveline, etc.

Here is info regarding COPO 9560 cars:

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/background6.GIF

124379 = Chevrolet Camaro V8 Coupe, 1969 model year.

[johnjzjz]

John,

I don't mean to piss on your parade but COPO cars (9560 and 9561) as well as Baldwin, Nickey, Yenko, Dana, Berger, and other factory supercars had V8 vins. I'm no expert but I'm not aware of any exceptions. Even if they were not ordered via COPO, most had at least a V8 vin so they could get the proper driveline, etc.

Here is info regarding COPO 9560 cars:

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/background6.GIF

124379 = Chevrolet Camaro V8 Coupe, 1969 model year.

bought a balwin car new from that snake joel -- it had a 6 cyl vin than and it has the same vin now i no longer own it but i have driven the car maybe 2 or 3 years ago -- i gave the original canseled check to the guy who owns it today -- jz

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

well good thing you didnt buy it wayfast because honestly you have better things to worry about dumping your money into in the future! and what you spend your money on is your own buisness. It was a nice looking car but you need lots of money,time and lots of capability to make it a nice sleeper or whatever you had planed on doing with it! take it from me you would be spending lots more than what you planned from the beginning!

[WildBillyT]

bought a balwin car new from that snake joel -- it had a 6 cyl vin than and it has the same vin now i no longer own it but i have driven the car maybe 2 or 3 years ago -- i gave the original canseled check to the guy who owns it today -- jz

A Phase III car? That's really what I mean... Plenty of six cyl cars were sold by Baldwin (as you know) and got engine swaps, etc.

[NJSPEEDER]

the early baldwin, nickey, berger, and yenko cars were all conversions, many woudl have 6cyl vins. 99%of the later cars were COPO orders that woudl have had V8 vins. there were still some conversions around as some cars were built without the "heavy duty" suspension that GM actualy stuck to their guns about requiring on any big block COPO car. many dealerships jsut ordered 6bangers, a 12bolt, cowl hood, and the engine from, the parts department and assembled the masterpiece in house.

yes i read too much.

[johnjzjz]

A Phase III car? That's really what I mean... Plenty of six cyl cars were sold by Baldwin (as you know) and got engine swaps, etc.

billy in those days nobody knew about the scam joel and others have developed today -- you went to the dealer like his baldwin motors and their was Briggs Chevy i think it was is sayerville buy fords -- you went to the dealer and you could get a BBC 427 4 speed and a 12 bolt posi out the door Camaro nova in 68 impala Biscayne u no -- it was not the genuflect people think it was -- its all bull it was a way of getting a big power car today kind of thing -- joel has added so many cars to his book it a shame he made 2 Gs on a car than and today he will make yours a real deal for 10g -- ah hello