What is it about turbo buicks

[WayFast84]

Why is it that turbo buick cars have no problems with modifications and the right suspensions runing 10's and faster? But when a chevy v6 gets a cam and heads and a custom turbo kit, it doesnt go nearly as fast? Whats different about the buick verses chevys v6?

Im sorry if this is in the wrong place

[Squirrel]

Why is it that turbo buick cars have no problems with modifications and the right suspensions runing 10's and faster? But when a chevy v6 gets a cam and heads and a custom turbo kit, it doesnt go nearly as fast? Whats different about the buick verses chevys v6?

Im sorry if this is in the wrong place

1. its called aftermarket support, look into it
2. TB's were set up for boost from the factory, a regular n/a v6 was not...turbo buicks can run upwards of 20 pounds of boost on the stock motor if set up correctly, where as an N/a block turned boosted can run say 6-8...
/thread

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

because azz hats cant build em right!

[Savage_Messiah]

the gn / tta 3800 engine has absolutely nothing similar to a series II 3800 (95.5 - 02 f-bodies) except for the displacement. Their heads and intakes are designed much better

[BigAls87Z28]

What kind of Chevy V6? Only Chevy V6 I can think of are the 60* 2.8/3.1/3.4/3.5/3.9 OHV ones, and the 4.3 V6.
The 3.8 is a 90* V6 and the engines were built to handle the boost. Now, if you compare the TTA to the GN, equally modded, then there is a difference.

[Savage_Messiah]

Al, read my post again.

[BigAls87Z28]

Kasey, I dont care what you have to say at all. The TTA has different heads then the Turbo Buick's, yet is much faster.

[WayFast84]

Where can I find a list of all the buicks that came stock with turbo's? Im looking into something for about a year or two from now.

[trashman01]

pretty much the 84? -87/88 ttype or regal. also the 89tta

[Ian]

turbobuicks.com

[Koll]

turbobuicks.com
t6p.com
turobuick.com

You want the 86 and newer. Thoes were the SFI ones.

Heres a link to run 9, 10 and 11 seconds (they are tested methods)
http://www.rjcracing.com/9_10_11_Sec_Perf_Receipes/9_10_11_sec_perf_receipes.html

[Frosty]

Kasey, I dont care what you have to say at all. The TTA has different heads then the Turbo Buick's, yet is much faster.

Which still has no relevance to what he was saying. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

don't forget lower compression!

[maroman88]

good luck finding a cheap turbo buick, prices are goin up on all of em, even the T-Type regals are gettin up there

[bubba428]

my old man had a 87 riviara T-Type that thing got it...the difference is...chevy V-6s fire differently than buick odd fire/even fire wikipedia acualy has this charted out...the buick engine just likes boost better...the 3.4 ehhhh not so much theres thing you can do to make it but not really...not to mention the chevy V-6 aftermarket is nill...i've tried the easy way...there is none

[Koll]

Now, if you compare the TTA to the GN, equally modded, then there is a difference.

As having ridden in both (with the same mods) I have to agree.
Plus the TType doesnt have the aerodynamics of a Cracker Box

[V]

dont forget the syclone and typhoons, not buicks, but definately some pretty nasty little tubro 4.3s

[JSPERFORMANCE]

what is nasty about a 14 second awd turbo? Plus they are a real pain to work on.

[V]

what is nasty about a 14 second awd turbo? Plus they are a real pain to work on.

ok well i dont mean "nasty" bone stock, ive seen more than enough with serious work done that moved. but i admit i never worked on one so i dont know what thats like. and dont get me wrong, im not sayign they are better than the buicks just saying gm had other stuff which i think is worth mentioning.

[bad64chevelle]

what is nasty about a 14 second awd turbo? Plus they are a real pain to work on.

Because I dont know the last time (until the TBSS) that ive seen a 14 sec SUV...and like anything new isnt a pain to work on.

[WayFast84]

If the buick was fired differently why cant the chevy v6's have the same firing order with a different cam, like the 3-7(i think thats it) swap cam sorts of thing

[JSPERFORMANCE]

If they were seroius about making something new they probably wouldnt have been such a pos. Instead they plopped a tiny water to air intercooled turbo kit on a stock 4.3 (yes its the same engine) a locked out transfer case and the same crappy differentials ooo but they have a locker in the front. At least the turbo buicks were totally engineered to be a performance car. Low compression, turbo, intercooler, sfi, and a strong enough drivetrain to handle the power.
If you cant tell I work on my fair share of both of these cars.

[Frosty]

If they were seroius about making something new they probably wouldnt have been such a pos. Instead they plopped a tiny water to air intercooled turbo kit on a stock 4.3 (yes its the same engine) a locked out transfer case and the same crappy differentials ooo but they have a locker in the front. At least the turbo buicks were totally engineered to be a performance car. Low compression, turbo, intercooler, sfi, and a strong enough drivetrain to handle the power.


Amen. The turbo 4.3's aren't even in the same league as the Buick 3.8's

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

my buddy had an 11 sec typhoon with different turbo and injectors ported intake! nothing else!

[98tadriver]

screw it, get a K20 boosted civic with VTTAKK yo, that will beat all

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Sorry, gonna raise the BS flag on that one. Those may have been the only mods he told you of but the stock exhaust with cat wont let the thing build decent boost. Also unless it was a one pass wonder the stock intercooler wont suppourt that turbo.

Ok maybe on race gas with 23 lbs of boost on a 40 degree day after letting it cool all the way down for 3 hours it ran 11.99? With a tail wind. Thost typhoons weigh well over 4000lbs!

But no need to argue there are some of them that run well but it takes alot more than the GN's do to get them there.

[98tadriver]

i still say go with the civic.. yo

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

yeah he had exhaust and an intake, they aren't really considered a mod to me. I'm sure he did some other things to it that I'm not remembering but i know for a fact it was stock inter-cooler. on a 40* day there is no doubt.

and **** the gas engines anyway diesel it bitch! hah ah ah

[Squirrel]

As having ridden in both (with the same mods) I have to agree.
Plus the TType doesnt have the aerodynamics of a Cracker Box
yeah, then you step out of the most badass 3rd gen ever made...and realize...its still a 3rd gen.... g-body lookin turbo 3.8 > f-body lookin turbo 3.8

[JSPERFORMANCE]

what the hell are you talking about squirrel? Iread you post like 3 times and I still have no clue of what you were trying to say.

[Squirrel]

what the hell are you talking about squirrel? Iread you post like 3 times and I still have no clue of what you were trying to say.

g-bodies > 3rd gens
i hate 3rd gens...i heart g-bodies

[trashman01]

my buddy chris has a bravada with a swapped in typhoon drive train. gonna get track times soon. it has down pipe and intake, with boost controller. peaks at 19/20lbs

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

my buddy chris has a bravada with a swapped in typhoon drive train. gonna get track times soon. it has down pipe and intake, with boost controller. peaks at 19/20lbs

sounds like a sweet ride!

[jin1481]

a little off topic but, how hard is to find a tta? (i think i just found a future project)

Its called wikipedia and the production number is 1500.

[WayFast84]

this isnt a whats faster thread or a benchracing thread, I just had a simple question about buicks not typhoons. I went on turbobuick.com and i still cant find a list of all them.

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

wooohooo! bench-racing! You asked what makes Buick so much better than Chevy v6 we said a few reasons why and were simply were stating that typhoon is a perfect example of Chevy being just as good as Buick! its all in how the engines were built dude, your question is kinda pointless, like saying what makes the lt1 have more power than a 350 out of a pickup truck! And as far as you looking and trying to find all the turbo Buick cars that were made there was a few and if you come across one for sale its of very few that are for sale so buy it IF you have the money! End of thread!

[JSPERFORMANCE]

the 1500 number should tell you how hard it is to find a REAL one..

[jin1481]

yeah i noticed that

[BigAls87Z28]

Sy/Ty was the fastest truck till the SRT10, which was then knocked out by an HSV spec Ute.

[Koll]

yeah, then you step out of the most badass 3rd gen ever made...and realize...its still a 3rd gen.... g-body lookin turbo 3.8 > f-body lookin turbo 3.8

Uh. 3rd gen with Indy Pace car gfx and ~15k miles > Gbody

[Frosty]

Uh. 3rd gen with Indy Pace car gfx and ~15k miles > Gbody

:werd:

TTA>T-type/GN

[Ian]

:werd:

TTA>T-type/GN

:nod:

[Mike]

Because I dont know the last time (until the TBSS) that ive seen a 14 sec SUV...and like anything new isnt a pain to work on.

tbss = 13s :)

[Firebird67dude]

For awhile i had a 94 Jimmy with the 4.6 V6 in it i think. Cant really remmeber, but it had 100,000 miloes on it and it beat the snot out of my bros 3.8 mustang. I bouth the typhoon turbo set up for it. Everythign from turbo to intercooler, piping, manifolds and everything. I wonder wher eit is now, I know i never sold it.

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

you dotn know were your own car whent?

[Tru2Chevy]

you dotn know were your own car went?

I think he's talking about the turbo setup.

- Justin