Illegal to pull out of driveway without stopping?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

My friend got a ticket for not stopping at the end of their driveway. Meanwhile nobody was coming remotely close, 25mph speed limit, very rural quiet road. The technical name for it was "improper driveway merge" or something like that. Anyone else think that is BS?

I mean I also live on a 25mph, quiet, rural road and don't stop unless somebody is coming. But then again this is Long Valley, where nothing big happens so cops don't have much to do.

[Fast92RS]

Cop was probably in a bad mood or was bored lol

[GP99GT]

thats pretty retarded to give a ticket for it, but it is still kinda unsafe

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Cop was probably in a bad mood or was bored lol

That's Long Valley area cops in a nutshell. Bored, and sometimes compounded with bad moods.

and how is it unsafe if nobody is coming close? She slowed down, but nobody was coming anywhere near the driveway, so she went.

[GP99GT]

its the same as rolling through a stop sign just cause you dont see anybody.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

its the same as rolling through a stop sign just cause you dont see anybody.

You don't have a stop sign at the end of your driveway ;)
And I, for one, know that they never preached such a thing in driver's ed or anywhere else for that matter.

[WildBillyT]

You don't have a stop sign at the end of your driveway ;)
And I, for one, know that they never preached such a thing in driver's ed or anywhere else for that matter.

If he wants to fight the ticket that's what he can say. Look for it in the NJ driver's manual.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

If he wants to fight the ticket that's what he can say. Look for it in the NJ driver's manual.

It's a she (grammar nazi) but I never thought about that.

[misterjuice]

I pull out all the time!!!!!!!!!!!

[WildBillyT]

It's a she (grammar nazi) but I never thought about that.

Well, technically you should have used "her driveway", not "their driveway". :lol:

[Firebird67dude]

Did she use a directional when she made the turn out of her driveway? Technicly one is supposed to use a "blinker" for any type of turn. Coming to anytype of uncontrolled intersection one is supposed to make a full stop and see if anybody is coming unless otherwise posted.

Yeah it sounds dumb, it is pretty mean but all in all he was just doing his job. And oviously the police officer was in some tyupe of close proximity to where your friend exited her driveway inorder for him to issue the summons.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Did she use a directional when she made the turn out of her driveway? Technicly one is supposed to use a "blinker" for any type of turn. Coming to anytype of uncontrolled intersection one is supposed to make a full stop and see if anybody is coming unless otherwise posted.

Yeah it sounds dumb, it is pretty mean but all in all he was just doing his job. And oviously the police officer was in some tyupe of close proximity to where your friend exited her driveway inorder for him to issue the summons.

Yeah she used a blinker. He was off to the side of the road clocking people. Car wasn't even on.
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And WildBilly.....i said "her" and "she" later on. so there. :)

[firehawk1120]

typical

[Mike]

you have to stop whenever entering a roadway or normal traffic pattern....some parking lots and drive throughs dont have stop signs and you still supposed to stop.....

[Squirrel]

I pull out all the time!!!!!!!!!!!
pull and pray ftw

[Teds89IROC]

I think the only time you don't have to stop is if you there are no stop signs posted and you are entering private property, like what Mike said because malls and big parking lots are often regulated by traffic laws.

[ryanfx]

at least it wasn't a

39:4-128.4 Improper passing of a frozen dessert truck 4 Points

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

at least it wasn't a

39:4-128.4 Improper passing of a frozen dessert truck 4 Points

What? 4 points

[ryanfx]

yeah it's a 4 point violation

[Firebird67dude]

Yea passing a frozen dessert truck or a school buss is 4 points.

[Knipps]

:nod:

lol, like that needed more reinforcement

[Problems74]

39:4–128.1 Improper passing of school bus 5 points...

Erra, ...read that one again boys. Thats a 5 pointer for a school bus. I would know...I drive one.

I would love to be the person to hand out the tickets for them too. I get at least 5 people a day that run my lights.

- Problems

[alexm]

39:4–128.1 Improper passing of school bus 5 points...

Erra, ...read that one again boys. Thats a 5 pointer for a school bus. I would know...I drive one.

I would love to be the person to hand out the tickets for them too. I get at least 5 people a day that run my lights.

- Problems

YOUR lights .................................i agree though people that do it should get a good slap on the wrist!

As for the original post, the cop had to be bored! Unless.....is she attractive he may have wanted a closer look???

[Savage_Messiah]

pull and pray ftw

:werd:

[BigAls87Z28]

WHAT! Your town must be in some major need of funds.
If it wasnt a moving violation, Id even be more pissed. It would cost you more to go to court to fight it then just pay the ticket, which is what they just want you to do anyway.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Unless.....is she attractive he may have wanted a closer look???

Actually that's a good possibility. Hmmm....


and Big Al, our town doesn't need funds, we just live in an affluent suburban area where there is no crime. Only speeders and such so that's all the cops do.

[79T/A]

39: 4-66 Emerging from alley, driveway or garage

a. The operator of a vehicle emerging from an alley, driveway, garage or private road or driveway, shall STOP the vehicle immediately prior to driving upon the sidewalk, and shall proceed to enter the sidewalk only after yielding the right of way to a pedestrian on the sidewalk, if the pedestrian is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.

b. (Here's the kicker) In addition to any duty imposed under subsection a. of this section, the operator of a vehicle emerging from an alley, driveway, garage, or private road or driveway, SHALL STOP THE VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO ENTERING OR CROSSING A HIGHWAY (All roads in NJ are called "Highways" by statute), AND SHALL PROCEED TO ENTER OR CROSS THE HIGHWAY only after yielding the right of way to the traffic on the highway, if the traffic is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.

2 points. Talk to the prosecutor and try to get it downgraded to a no-points offense.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

39: 4-66 Emerging from alley, driveway or garage

a. The operator of a vehicle emerging from an alley, driveway, garage or private road or driveway, shall STOP the vehicle immediately prior to driving upon the sidewalk, and shall proceed to enter the sidewalk only after yielding the right of way to a pedestrian on the sidewalk, if the pedestrian is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.

b. (Here's the kicker) In addition to any duty imposed under subsection a. of this section, the operator of a vehicle emerging from an alley, driveway, garage, or private road or driveway, SHALL STOP THE VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO ENTERING OR CROSSING A HIGHWAY (All roads in NJ are called "Highways" by statute), AND SHALL PROCEED TO ENTER OR CROSS THE HIGHWAY only after yielding the right of way to the traffic on the highway, if the traffic is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.

2 points. Talk to the prosecutor and try to get it downgraded to a no-points offense.

I've never had a ticket before and neither has she. How do you go about doing that? Tell her to wear a low cut shirt? ;)

[Mike]

no, dress nice...when your sitting there the prosecutor will call her name and take her aside prior to the judge's hearing....they will usually offer a deal involving dropping the offence to something with no points ie. obstruction of traffic or unsafe operation....

be ready for the fine to be slightly higher but no points is what the goal of the night should be

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

no, dress nice...when your sitting there the prosecutor will call her name and take her aside prior to the judge's hearing....they will usually offer a deal involving dropping the offence to something with no points ie. obstruction of traffic or unsafe operation....

be ready for the fine to be slightly higher but no points is what the goal of the night should be

Alright I guess I didn't make this clear before. I'm 17 too haha. She's my friend; I'm not her father. I was just tryin to figure out what would help her haha. Thanks for the advice though, I'll pass it on.

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

it is still good advice to tell your friend.

[79T/A]

Is she 17 also? Tell her to bring a parent and BOTH of them should speak to the prosecutor. The typical "downgrade" is Unsafe Operation of a Motor Vehicle (39: 4-97.1). No points, but it will cost a hair under $500 and usually has to be paid that night. Steep, but it beats paying $1000 over the next three years.

[BigAls87Z28]

*cash register* easy money, fish in a barrel

[ChickenLittle]

and stop at the end of the driveway from now on

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

it is still good advice to tell your friend.

Yea I said I'll still pass it on.

79 t/a you seem to know quite a bit about this. Not sure if that's a good thing ;)

And yea I plan to stop at the end of the driveway and spread the word. Since they didn't teach us that in driver's ed at my school.

[Brando56894]

yea thats pretty much BS, i live on a main road so i always have to stop

[79T/A]

79 t/a you seem to know quite a bit about this. Not sure if that's a good thing

To quote Garth Brooks, I've got Friends in Low Places :-P