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BigAls87Z28
04-02-2007, 05:02 PM
Yanks take the season opener 10th year in a row.
I didnt get to see the game, but I heard that the D blew goat chunks. gAy-Rod lost a ball in the sky for an easy out, and even Jeter had an over throw....but Pavano didnt come down with some sort of injury, so thats got to be good.
Farnsworth and Rivera...good stuff shutting them down.

PS: Now that the MLB started, this is the official end of Hockey, so no more threads, I dont want to hear it. Its warm, its sunny, there is no ice. Save it for the Olympics.

Mike
04-02-2007, 05:23 PM
and bostons getting spanked by kc

arod lost a foul ball that didnt cost them anything, jeters error cost them a run, arod then hit a homer to lengthen the lead and got himself a curtain call.

alamantia
04-02-2007, 05:27 PM
Yanks take the season opener 10th year in a row.
I didnt get to see the game, but I heard that the D blew goat chunks. gAy-Rod lost a ball in the sky for an easy out, and even Jeter had an over throw....but Pavano didnt come down with some sort of injury, so thats got to be good.
Farnsworth and Rivera...good stuff shutting them down.

PS: Now that the MLB started, this is the official end of Hockey, so no more threads, I dont want to hear it. Its warm, its sunny, there is no ice. Save it for the Olympics.

Damn straight, glad to see the best team money can buy is looking good on opening day. Baseball season is upon us, so are the NHL playoffs (sorry man) and my car goes back on the road all in the same month. Gotta love April!!

Mike
04-02-2007, 05:32 PM
lol only 161 games to go

alamantia
04-02-2007, 05:34 PM
lol only 161 games to go

damn straight, i hope to watch them all, already got tix to at least 4 games this season including one in baltimore in september. les go jankees!

Knipps
04-02-2007, 05:59 PM
Yanks take the season opener 10th year in a row.
I didnt get to see the game, but I heard that the D blew goat chunks. gAy-Rod lost a ball in the sky for an easy out, and even Jeter had an over throw....but Pavano didnt come down with some sort of injury, so thats got to be good.
Farnsworth and Rivera...good stuff shutting them down.

PS: Now that the MLB started, this is the official end of Hockey, so no more threads, I dont want to hear it. Its warm, its sunny, there is no ice. Save it for the Olympics.

it's not over just yet ;)

SteveR
04-02-2007, 07:51 PM
and Giambi with 3 RBIs

BigAls87Z28
04-02-2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah, I hope he can keep it up, and maintain that "always wet" look.
Shesh, every time you see him, looks like he just ran from downtown to get to the game on time.
Let me use this time to say, I hate ARod. The man makes more money in a month then some do in a year.

LS1Hawk
04-02-2007, 08:25 PM
Hells yeah. Yankees FTMFW!

sbcpower
04-02-2007, 08:51 PM
prepare yourself for a noobie question....


is everyone here a yankees fan? :confused:

I don't understand the gay-rod comments, so someone please explain them to me. We're talking about someone who may end up being the 'greatest' player in his era, if not history. I know that is very debatable since they said the same thing about young Griffey Jr. but injuries ruined that. I really believe injuries aside, yankee fans are the only thing that will hold A-Rod back from achieving this. So everyone says A-Rod sucks....not sure I understand that I've played ball my whole life and I'd be pretty damn happy with his numbers at that level. For instance '05 .321 ba, .421 obp, 48 hr, and 130 rbis. Is that not good? And last year he struggled and hit a measly .290 haha. A-rods best? No way, but still not bad. remember a .300 career hitter is hard to come by. Even so, he still had 35 hr and 121 rbis that year. In '04 Jeter hit .292 with 23 hr and 78 rbi, no one started calling him Derek sucks Peter did they? I must be missing something...

Now...Derek Jeter. The yankee captain right? bull f*&%in *****. From the arrival of A-Rod, Jeter should have moved to 2nd, all you Cano fans keep in mind he wasn't there yet. A-Rod at SS and Jeter at 2nd...that may have been one of the best middle infields in a while. But what is done is done, so moving on. Does anyone believe a captain should be a leader, talk for the team and the players? If so, why has Jeter publically refused to defend A-Rod? Would a captain, a field general, not defend his teammate from the media? Not saying he has to be rude or bash anyone, but maybe even politely 'ask' the media to cut A-Rod some slack...nope. The media worships the ground Jeter walks on, they might just listen.

Please no one be offended, I'm not trying to bash Jeter as a baseball player. I think Derek Jeter is a great baseball player, a little overrated, but great nonetheless. While I'll admit I HATE the yankees and what they have become under Darth Steinbrenner I respect the incredible history and majesty the NY represents. :hail: I'm just trying to spark a little innocent pinstripes debate :twisted: Have at it haha

baddest434
04-02-2007, 08:55 PM
always good to win the first game. i hope they have a great season and smack the crap out of those friggin red sox. gosh i hate them GO YANKS

oh yea DEVILSFTW

Knipps
04-02-2007, 09:12 PM
always good to win the first game. i hope they have a great season and smack the crap out of those friggin red sox. gosh i hate them GO YANKS

oh yea DEVILSFTW

:werd:

BigAls87Z28
04-02-2007, 09:22 PM
prepare yourself for a noobie question....


is everyone here a yankees fan? :confused:

I don't understand the gay-rod comments, so someone please explain them to me. We're talking about someone who may end up being the 'greatest' player in his era, if not history. I know that is very debatable since they said the same thing about young Griffey Jr. but injuries ruined that. I really believe injuries aside, yankee fans are the only thing that will hold A-Rod back from achieving this. So everyone says A-Rod sucks....not sure I understand that I've played ball my whole life and I'd be pretty damn happy with his numbers at that level. For instance '05 .321 ba, .421 obp, 48 hr, and 130 rbis. Is that not good? And last year he struggled and hit a measly .290 haha. A-rods best? No way, but still not bad. remember a .300 career hitter is hard to come by. Even so, he still had 35 hr and 121 rbis that year. In '04 Jeter hit .292 with 23 hr and 78 rbi, no one started calling him Derek sucks Peter did they? I must be missing something...

Now...Derek Jeter. The yankee captain right? bull f*&%in *****. From the arrival of A-Rod, Jeter should have moved to 2nd, all you Cano fans keep in mind he wasn't there yet. A-Rod at SS and Jeter at 2nd...that may have been one of the best middle infields in a while. But what is done is done, so moving on. Does anyone believe a captain should be a leader, talk for the team and the players? If so, why has Jeter publically refused to defend A-Rod? Would a captain, a field general, not defend his teammate from the media? Not saying he has to be rude or bash anyone, but maybe even politely 'ask' the media to cut A-Rod some slack...nope. The media worships the ground Jeter walks on, they might just listen.

Please no one be offended, I'm not trying to bash Jeter as a baseball player. I think Derek Jeter is a great baseball player, a little overrated, but great nonetheless. While I'll admit I HATE the yankees and what they have become under Darth Steinbrenner I respect the incredible history and majesty the NY represents. :hail: I'm just trying to spark a little innocent pinstripes debate :twisted: Have at it haha

WHAT?!?!
BAN HIM!!
Are you for friggin real? Overrated? Jeter overrated? Did you WATCH Arod choke on 12 inch donkey shlong in the play offs?
Cut Arod some slack!! HE SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR 252 MILLION DOLLARS AND WENT 1 FOR 11 IN THE PLAYOFFS, AND JUST SHRUGGED IT OFF AS IF IT WAS NOTHING!!
He is a WASTE of money, a waste of time! Milkey Cabrera had 10000x more heart and makes the money that Arod uses to dry his hands with.
If this was a ploy to get my heart rate up, along with blood pressure, you win.
Jeter is ALWAYS on top of his game, and lives the life that I would dream. The two dont even belong ont he field together.
For 252,000 bucks, you could pay me to go 1 for 11 in the Playoffs. At least Id try my heart out. Best in our life time? Are you serious? He hits 30 home runs or so a season, but seems to choke when the pressure is on. Jeter, like REAL Yankee's, know what pressure is. I never once saw Jeter choke or die off for an entire Playoff!!
Your 252Million dollar man sucked so bad, he got slid down to 8th....lets not forget that. Waste of time...waste of time. Id take Scott Brocious(sp?) back in a heart beat.

sbcpower
04-02-2007, 10:55 PM
lol Why ban me? Don't you love a little razz every once and a while?

Are you for friggin real? Overrated? Jeter overrated? Did you WATCH Arod choke on 12 inch donkey shlong in the play offs?

Overrated, in the media sense, you guys know the radio station WFAN on AM radio? I think its 660AM. I once heard the one guy say they should erect a full size statue of Jeter next to Ruths place beyond the wall. I'm sorry...Derek is a good player, like i said, he really is. But he is no Babe Ruth. As far as baseball fans/analysts using the numbers you are 100% right, Jeter has very good numbers, in fact his career numbers are just a few ticks over A-rods...well BA and OBP.

Cut Arod some slack!! HE SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR 252 MILLION DOLLARS AND WENT 1 FOR 11 IN THE PLAYOFFS, AND JUST SHRUGGED IT OFF AS IF IT WAS NOTHING!!

In high school, I thought 24 games was a long season, now college is over 40 games, if you struggle its rough, mlb players endure 162 games I can't imagine that. As a ballplayer I'll vouch and say after struggling so much in the playoffs the last thing I'd want to do is brood over it and let it carry over to next season. The best thing to do is learn from it and move on, don't carry it with you no?

If this was a ploy to get my heart rate up, along with blood pressure, you win.

DISCLAIMER: SBCPOWER is not responsible for any Yankee fan injury/deaths as a result from reading my posts, read at your own risk. :rofl: hehe

Jeter is ALWAYS on top of his game, and lives the life that I would dream. The two dont even belong ont he field together.

What happened in '04, Jeters numbers were as 'bad' as A-Rods

Best in our life time? Are you serious? He hits 30 home runs or so a season, but seems to choke when the pressure is on.

First, I didn't say life, only because I know everyone here is probably different ages, I'm only 20 so I didn't see guys like Mantle and them play. A-Rod hits 30 home runs or so? 30 is a gross understatement, since he was an everyday starter (which omits '94 and '95) A-Rod has hit 36,23,42,42,41,52,57,47,36,48,35....averaging out to be about 42 hr per season. That's pretty damn good no matter how you look at it. I will address the postseason 'pressure' next.

Jeter, like REAL Yankee's, know what pressure is. I never once saw Jeter choke or die off for an entire Playoff!!

Now let's look at the numbers again since the numbers are the bottom line in baseball. In '04 A-Rods cumulative postseason BA was .320 (16/50). That's not too shabby right? Now, here is your case, and I agree with you, in '05 and '06 he hit .133 (2/15; although in his defense his OBP was .435 so he was still on base) and .071 (1/14) respectively. Both pretty bad, I'll admit, but look at it in perspective, you say it's a 'whole postseason' and while it was for the yankess since they were eliminated, it was only a D.S., somewhere between 3-5 days, we're not talking the D.S., ALCS, and WS here. We're talking about a bad week. Not enough time to come out of a slump especially with the media breathing down on you and YOUR OWN FANS booing you.

What do you mean by REAL yankee? I don't follow... :confused:

Now about Jeter choking or dying off in the playoffs you must have missed a year of Yankee playoffs hehe. To use a fair comparison to A-Rods numbers for the last two years, saying that a D.S. constitutes a "whole playoff" gives me something to work with. So with A-Rods numbers we're looking at 2 series, consisting of roughly 3-14 games depending whether its best of 5 of best of 7. In 2001 Jeter choked on a 12 inch donkey shlong in the play offs? when he hit .118 (2/18) and .148 (4/27) in the ALCS and World Series respectively. I understand that Jeter has been clutch 90% of the time, but everyone fails at some point; that's the point I'm trying to make.

I'd love it if Darth Steinbrenner game up A-Rod; I'd like to see A-Rod go elsewhere and be loved, shatter records and be another city's hero because there can only be one Derek Jesus in NYC :rofl: hahaha

I'm game for some baseball talk, as long as its backed, please no one just post "you're a fag" or "yankee hater" I'm not hating on anyone just playing A-Rod....err Devil's Advocate :twisted: hehe I'll be waiting for your response

BigAls87Z28
04-02-2007, 11:44 PM
Jeter had one off year, compared to Arod who has yet to produce anything but embarasment. How come everyone else seemd to do ok with 162+ games a year, but Arod is the one that falls flat?
Yeah, the media is breathing down his neck, but the guy brings it upon himself. Do you hear the **** he says in press interviews? He said that at the end of the day, he still is getting 252 over 10 years. Man with that kind of money...he MUST be on all the time, not when he feels like it.
A few home runs, thats not what makes a baseball player.
Man vs Man, Jeter is the better player hands down. Hitting, fielding, on and off the field presence, he is what exactly what a Yankee is. He wasnt bought from another team, he was raised up from the farm league and brought up through the ranks, and will go down as one of the best Yankee's to ever play. He does deserve to be compared to Mickey and Joe D, and even Ruth himself. May the new Yankee Stadium be the House that Jeter Built. ARod is just another flashy hitter. They come and they go. No heart what so ever. Im not a fan of the purchased Yankees, even if they do prove to be worth it. Arod is the worst of the bunch.

SteveR
04-02-2007, 11:48 PM
ARod also has 50 errors in 3 seasons.

Mike
04-02-2007, 11:51 PM
1. im not a yankee fan.
2. he didnt move to second because arod volunteered to go to third
3. your right they didnt have cano....that had SORIANO PLAYING SECOND.
4.i dunno i dont like arguing about a team i dont like after 1 game.

SteveR
04-03-2007, 12:04 AM
Soriano sucked in the 03 playoffs, he had one hit, plus he has an attitude problem. Wilson took over second in 04 and wasnt too good. Cairo came in after that and was decent, then Cano came in.

sbcpower
04-03-2007, 12:38 AM
cbrrmike- i dont like the yankees either, but i love razzing yankee fans and their Derek Jesus :lol: hahaha

Trust me guys, I agree with you yankee fans on some things. Do I think Derek Jeter is a great player? Yes, he is a great player. Do I think A-Rod is a great player? Yes, I do. Do I think A-Rod is a great Yankee? No, I don't. I think coming to NYC was the worst possible thing for A-Rod and his career. Before coming to NYC A-Rod was a role model for all of baseball (not saying Jeter isn't) A-Rod was off to a record SHATTERING career before coming to NYC. True, A-Rod did volunteer to move to 3rd; why? To try to please Yankee fans. It's not that A-Rod didn't want to fit in, he wasn't allowed to. From day one A-Rod was rejected, there was unhealthy competition from the beginning between A-Rod and Jeter. Do play devil's advocate as well, you said home runs dont make a baseball player; this is true, I think Barry BALCO Bonds is a joke. While Derek is a dangerous player for his knack of getting on base, he is not/was not the main targeting point for opposing pitchers. Jeter sees better pitching with other guys in the lineup i.e. Giambi, A-Rod, etc. Power yields respect which in turn is less pitches to hit. Jeter isn't even the best SS in baseball anymore.
I think I'd have 50 errors in 3 seasons if I moved to a position I'd never played before in the MLB. It's tough to learn a new position at that level with balls in the infield well over 100mph off the bat and no fans behind you.
While alot of what I'm saying is trivial BS to get into a yankee fight :gheyfigh: one thing I am wholeheartedly going to disagree on is the Jeter to Mick, Ruth, Joe D comparison. Jeter is a great player, been on great teams, kept a good image for baseball overall. In my opinion hes a smug ass, but we're entitled to think what we want right? Mick changed the game, and in a metaphoric sense Ruth MADE the game. Jeter has had a great career; Jeter has a loyal, cult type fan base, but has not changed the game of baseball like those men did. Next thing I'm gonna hear is Jeter was a better hitter than Ted Williams....please pease don't say it lol.

As much as I love bs'in over the Yankees and irkin their fans, I do wish them luck I am a baseball fan in purity to the game not just a team or player. And for both his own sake and the team I hope A-Rod produces the numbers he is capable of (i.e. .330BA 45hr) and gets the ring he so desperately needs to be accepted and respected in NYC. I've never heard of fans turning their backs on their own players like this before. It's not that I'm a die hard A-Rod fan, I just think his treatment has been wrong. And his comments in public yea....they might not be the best thing to say, but I don't blame him. Really...is he doing anything different to you than you are to him, just turning your back? A-Rods public 'harassments' not interviews are a sign that NYC has won, you've broken the mans confidence and scarred his dignity. His statements say the same thing to me, you might all hate me, boo me, think i suck, you cast me out, turned the other way, taken my pride, broken my confidence, but at least I got your money. Because in the end, at least at this rate, staying in pinstripes will leave A-Rod with nothing but the money... :sad:

Mike
04-03-2007, 12:43 AM
im a texas fan.....so i was a arod fan pre new york, i like him, i also think his contract set my team back at least 10 years...but thats not his fault.

if you were offered 200,000,000 and change, would you say nah ill work for half that......NO
dont blame arod for the money, blame the owners and gm's that got into the bidding war.

SteveR
04-03-2007, 12:52 AM
I don't think ARod is a bad player at all. I like him in NY, but he has had his problems. He did have a major issue with making things happen in clutch situations. When the game was on the line, or a situation where there were runners in scoring position, ARod had a bad habbit of getting out, especially hitting into double plays. I think NY expected him to do what Sheffield really did in 04 and 05, make plays happen. He is hitting the long ball, he is driving runs in, and his average is good, it's just the clutch situations. I think a lot of people think of it like this; if NY is paying him a quarter BILLION dollars, ARod better be winning every game, and making me ****ing pancakes every morning. You can't expect one guy to do everything, but for that kind of money, people are expecting more.

Mike
04-03-2007, 12:55 AM
they arent paying him all that, texas still pays a lot of it

SteveR
04-03-2007, 12:59 AM
Yea, but people look at the total amount he's making, regardless of whose paying for it. I think they are judging whether or not he's worth that much. I think a lot of fans are overly harsh on him. They were booing him in the 1st inning already lol I think a bigger issue for the team is why they haven't had decent pitching in 4 years.

Mike
04-03-2007, 01:03 AM
if he plays ok they will come around, he ended up getting curtain called.

theres no argument about him being worth that much, he isnt, and no players are, but hell they get it

SteveR
04-03-2007, 01:10 AM
Yea, and what about that guy from Japan? Isn't he making like nine gatrillion dollars?

I think most of the fans have kind of made up their minds about ARod. He is the one to blame for things. Sucks, but it's true. He's had some amazing games, including the one in 04 where he almost hit for the HR cycle, hitting a 2-run, 3-run, and grand slam in he same game, finishing with 11 RBI's, and the fans boo the crap out of him at every chance. I say boo the crap out of the front office for not bringing Bernie back. ********.

Mike
04-03-2007, 01:15 AM
eh i want them to start melky, or let him leave

SteveR
04-03-2007, 01:22 AM
Yea, NY has a habbit of keeping good players on the bench, like Lofton, man was he pissed that year lol With all of the injuries from last year, I'm surprised they didnt keep Bernie around. He said he wanted to come back, even for less money, just to sit on the bench and play when they need him. Melky is good, and I'm sure he'll get a lot of time in this year. I'm sure you'll see movement on 1st with maybe Giambi playing the field and Melky DHing, or Abreu or Damon taking the day off. He'll get his hits.

slasherbarb
04-03-2007, 09:54 AM
Ok...BaRb will try to settle this...

A-Rod- AWESOME player!!! would never hesitate to have him on my team. He is going to break every record there is since is still pretty young. He has some playoff trouble but the rest of the Yankees can't seem to pick up the slack. A-Rod is going to hit 40+ homers (including his 500th), drive in 130+ RBIs, and bat .310. Playoffs? Too early to tell.

Now Jeter- No one on the Yankees should be captain more than him. He was there since 95 (late season call up, rookie year was 96) and is an awesome clubhouse leader. He has been clutch time and time again so the hero worship is warrented. Jeter has never really been 'off' during a season, so his numbers have been consistent.

Now every Yankee fan who wants A-Rod's head on a spike should calm down a little right now. He went 2 for 5 yesterday, do he is batting .400, with 1 homer and 2 RBI. And cut him some slack with the missed pop-up. All baseball players would know how hard it would have been to catch that in those conditions at the Stadium yesterday.

Now, on another note, I'm going to game on Thursday night :w00t:

And, one more thing, Go DEVILS!!!! hockey playoffs > MLB regular season

Knipps
04-03-2007, 10:09 AM
Ok...BaRb will try to settle this...

A-Rod- AWESOME player!!! would never hesitate to have him on my team. He is going to break every record there is since is still pretty young. He has some playoff trouble but the rest of the Yankees can't seem to pick up the slack. A-Rod is going to hit 40+ homers (including his 500th), drive in 130+ RBIs, and bat .310. Playoffs? Too early to tell.

Now Jeter- No one on the Yankees should be captain more than him. He was there since 95 (late season call up, rookie year was 96) and is an awesome clubhouse leader. He has been clutch time and time again so the hero worship is warrented. Jeter has never really been 'off' during a season, so his numbers have been consistent.

Now every Yankee fan who wants A-Rod's head on a spike should calm down a little right now. He went 2 for 5 yesterday, do he is batting .400, with 1 homer and 2 RBI. And cut him some slack with the missed pop-up. All baseball players would know how hard it would have been to catch that in those conditions at the Stadium yesterday.

Now, on another note, I'm going to game on Thursday night :w00t:

And, one more thing, Go DEVILS!!!! hockey > MLB

fixed. :mrgreen: