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98tadriver
05-06-2007, 03:16 PM
yay finally, a fully optioned moser 12 bolt w/3.73s is sitting here, waiting to be installed!. any ideas on keepin those 4 little torque arm bolts tight? i heard they come loose alot of the time..

qwikz28
05-06-2007, 03:23 PM
:w00t: i'm installing mine this week too! except i got mine with 4:10s ;)

i'm gonna locktite the bolts and just tighten them every so often

camaroracer1992
05-06-2007, 03:23 PM
thats why god invented someone smart enough to invent loc-tite. use the blue or green, dont use the red thats permanent

qwikz28
05-06-2007, 03:24 PM
thats why god invented someone smart enough to invent loc-tite. use the blue or green, dont use the red thats permanent

oh thats good to know.... i have the red :shock:

Jersey_TA
05-06-2007, 03:25 PM
I used the red stuff and have had no problems taking them off. 8)

Ofcourse you're not going to be able to take them off with a 1/4 drive or anything lol(just an example)

NJSPEEDER
05-06-2007, 03:27 PM
one thing you shoudl do is upgrade to new grade8 bolts and nuts. you can set them to a higher torque level which will help prevent them loosening.

Silent Z
05-06-2007, 03:33 PM
Did you guys buy them both new? If so how much do they run?

j0n
05-06-2007, 03:44 PM
Texas-speed is running a special iirc for ~$2000 + shipping

WayFast84
05-06-2007, 04:13 PM
Texas-speed is running a special iirc for ~$2000 + shipping

damn, If I was a prick id be placing an order with T.S. tonight :cry:

good luck with the 12 bolt..

deadtrend1
05-06-2007, 04:42 PM
I say it only lasts 3 weeks. +/- 2 days ..... :)

98tadriver
05-06-2007, 05:02 PM
hahaha THATS NOT FUNNY!!

FAST Z
05-06-2007, 05:07 PM
Damn Am I jealous... I ran out of funds, and am stuck with my iddie bidd 10 bolt...... Someday I am going 12 bolt or 9".... for now.. lets see how much torture a 10bolt can take... I will keep all informed of my research and development of a 10 bolt versus a big block and some nitrous.... in a heavy all car!!!!

98tadriver
05-06-2007, 05:18 PM
heres the end result of my bolt on t/a when i was making 338/ 366 to the wheels on a 10 bolt, and street tires! http://thumbs.vidiac.com/82fe6557-b37f-4456-96a9-86bbf7c8924a.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/82fe6557-b37f-4456-96a9-86bbf7c8924a.htm)Click here to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/82fe6557-b37f-4456-96a9-86bbf7c8924a.htm)

WildBillyT
05-06-2007, 06:16 PM
Damn Am I jealous... I ran out of funds, and am stuck with my iddie bidd 10 bolt...... Someday I am going 12 bolt or 9".... for now.. lets see how much torture a 10bolt can take... I will keep all informed of my research and development of a 10 bolt versus a big block and some nitrous.... in a heavy all car!!!!

Different 10 bolts.

His is a 7.5, yours (if you mean the 2nd gen) is a 8.5. Properly built the 8.5 is pretty good. Kurt Urban runs one and he is in the low 9's,

qwikz28
05-06-2007, 09:09 PM
one thing you shoudl do is upgrade to new grade8 bolts and nuts. you can set them to a higher torque level which will help prevent them loosening.

thank you for the info, what kind of loctite would you guys recommend us using on our bolts?

qwikz28
05-06-2007, 09:11 PM
Did you guys buy them both new? If so how much do they run?

i got mine used from a older gentleman in upstate NY, it has about 1k miles on it and comes with a steel, and aluminum driveshaft each with the correct yoke for 1900.

JW
05-06-2007, 09:12 PM
Welcome to the 12 bolt world finally Ron!

JW :D

98tadriver
05-06-2007, 11:04 PM
ran into some problems with the install, but should have it done this tuesday fo sho

I paid 2000 for mine, i think, plus im getting a LPE HD aluminum DS with it!

i think im gonna use red loctite on it and see where that gets me. if it becomes loose after that, safety wire ftmfw!

98tadriver
05-06-2007, 11:07 PM
Different 10 bolts.

His is a 7.5, yours (if you mean the 2nd gen) is a 8.5. Properly built the 8.5 is pretty good. Kurt Urban runs one and he is in the low 9's,


and the most important factor of all-- Im not behind the wheel of it!

FAST Z
05-06-2007, 11:27 PM
Different 10 bolts.

His is a 7.5, yours (if you mean the 2nd gen) is a 8.5. Properly built the 8.5 is pretty good. Kurt Urban runs one and he is in the low 9's,

well.. I am lookin to test the limits....

The car is being built to run the 8.50 index at atco... I should with the proper tune be capable of well lets just say a lil bit more if it hooks... and I don't kick this rear clean out the back of her..........

Two or Three Hits of nitrous I haven't decided yet... all depends on the pckets.:drive: :drive:

Newest underside I got today... Car should be done this week.. and its time to put the pieces back together......

Savage_Messiah
05-06-2007, 11:29 PM
Why not 4.10s??

bubba428
05-07-2007, 08:26 AM
i think this one should make it past the nitrous.....

BonzoHansen
05-07-2007, 08:49 AM
I don’t remember the exact mounting setup, so this advice may be no good, but if those are bolts & nuts, do GR8 bolts and nuts – and use the nuts with the nylon lock ring in them.

IROCdan330
05-07-2007, 09:37 AM
Why not 4.10s??

i believe ron was hitting rev limiter (i think he raised it from stock) in 4th just before crossing the traps when he was running 4.10s...

qwikz28
05-07-2007, 09:42 AM
i believe ron was hitting rev limiter (i think he raised it from stock) in 4th just before crossing the traps when he was running 4.10s...

no way... in 4th gear with 4.10s and 26" tires you will be going 123mph at 6500rpm. there is no way ron is trapping that high with bolt-ons. (no offense ron)

http://www.f-body.org/gears/

^^ftw

IROCdan330
05-07-2007, 09:46 AM
ok...

i know its something along those lines...dont remember exactly.

WildBillyT
05-07-2007, 10:09 AM
and the most important factor of all-- Im not behind the wheel of it!

This is true. I had typed up a reply saying something like "Keep in mind that Ron has a strong future in stress testing auto parts" but I forgot to submit it.

j0n
05-07-2007, 10:37 AM
no way... in 4th gear with 4.10s and 26" tires you will be going 123mph at 6500rpm. there is no way ron is trapping that high with bolt-ons. (no offense ron)

http://www.f-body.org/gears/

^^ftw

I'm pretty sure he doesn't run the car much past 6k(~113mph)

FAST Z
05-07-2007, 02:28 PM
358sbc 10/1 comp world sportsmanII Heads with turbo 350 4:10 gears and a 26x10.5 tire I went 12.54 at 114.... Screaming it through the traps.... AT 6500.... the car fell on its face after 6200 and was dead at the 1000' mark....

Mike
05-07-2007, 03:09 PM
no way... in 4th gear with 4.10s and 26" tires you will be going 123mph at 6500rpm. there is no way ron is trapping that high with bolt-ons. (no offense ron)

http://www.f-body.org/gears/

^^ftw

im on my rev limiter in 4th at the traps with 4.10s

qwikz28
05-07-2007, 03:12 PM
im on my rev limiter in 4th at the traps with 4.10s

i'm going with a cam so i will be turning my motor to 6800. i forgot that he was bolt on. but even so, i turned my bolt on motor slightly past 6k to keep it in the powerband

98tadriver
05-08-2007, 04:08 PM
no way... in 4th gear with 4.10s and 26" tires you will be going 123mph at 6500rpm. there is no way ron is trapping that high with bolt-ons. (no offense ron)

http://www.f-body.org/gears/

^^ftw

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/b46d556a-d7a1-4491-a0e8-9843017f7825.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b46d556a-d7a1-4491-a0e8-9843017f7825.htm)Click here to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b46d556a-d7a1-4491-a0e8-9843017f7825.htm)
none taken, rev limiter was stock at the time, w/ 4.11 gears and i topped out at 113mph. I saw that in person when i drove it. and this site www.f-body.org/gears FTW

plus i have some plans for it this year that will help me trap at least 120 i would think. 3.73s @ 6k with 26" tires = 123mph if i remmber correctly.

Now, next year, my powerband will be a bit higher in the rpms, so 4.10s will be better suited for me.

qwikz28
05-08-2007, 07:30 PM
your gearbox hates you

98tadriver
05-08-2007, 11:09 PM
your gearbox hates you


heheh