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Jersey_TA
05-08-2007, 07:55 AM
I saw this on the news this morning. :( They were turned in while trying to buy AK-47s by an arms dealer. He turned them in to the FBI. They were involve in a plot to attack Ft. Dix here in NJ :(
WTF!!!!!!
The Fixer
05-08-2007, 08:05 AM
Damn! These idiots running our country need to get their collective heads out of their asses and protect our own land, then worry about Iraq! Glad they cought these guys before something bad happened to you and the guys you work with!
bad64chevelle
05-08-2007, 08:29 AM
Yeah so glad they caught them, so close to home and especially for a few of you who work there! Its bad enough we gotta worry about our troops over seas, now we gotta worry about them at home too. Keep safe everyone!
Untamed
05-08-2007, 08:33 AM
I'm glad a firearms dealer had a conscience and turned those guys in rather than just seeing money, doing the deal, and leaving it to the authorities to find them... after the fact.
Fast92RS
05-08-2007, 09:08 AM
:shock: Nice to see people still have some sense.
bubba428
05-08-2007, 09:14 AM
well if you think about it...it WAS business cause if they find out were the guns came from...dealer goes down...but its still good to see they acted on the tip instead of just blowing it over
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 09:50 AM
i just read the article on cnn.com... they were a group of eastern european refugees. i'm beyond words. what could possibly go through these peoples heads to think that this is a good idea? the new reporters refers to them as "islamic radicals." yeah no crap....
i still say this country needs to ban arms and the distribution of them. i can't think of any logical way to go about it, but the bill of rights is out dated. people are too looney to allow open distribution of guns.
bubba428
05-08-2007, 09:57 AM
well we can't just outright ban fire-arms...It doesn't matter, then theres knives, then anything else you can find. its not the weapon, its the user. If there are stricter laws put in place who's going to abide by them, law abiding citizens. Criminals can still get illeagal fire-arms regardles of what the goverment says...so the only people suffering are people doing the right thing. Having these laws in place leave good people with out viable protection from a gun toting maniac...
i just read the article on cnn.com... they were a group of eastern european refugees. i'm beyond words. what could possibly go through these peoples heads to think that this is a good idea? the new reporters refers to them as "islamic radicals." yeah no crap....
i still say this country needs to ban arms and the distribution of them. i can't think of any logical way to go about it, but the bill of rights is out dated. people are too looney to allow open distribution of guns.
Majority of criminals get guns illegally, banning the distribution of firearms would only pull them from the arms of law-abiding citizens. BTW you can have my firearms when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers.
GrandmasterCow
05-08-2007, 10:09 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/08/fortdix.plot/index.html
theres the article
bubba428
05-08-2007, 10:15 AM
Majority of criminals get guns illegally, banning the distribution of firearms would only pull them from the arms of law-abiding citizens. BTW you can have my firearms when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers.
your about 9 min and a post to late...but I completly agree
camaroracer1992
05-08-2007, 10:20 AM
whoever said to ban guns on this post is a moron. just wait until the day youd need one to protect your self and all you have is a water gun (which the dems would probably outlaw them too), youll be wishing you had a HK or a Ar around :) . as what bubba said only the honest/law abiding citizen gets screwed when they make laws, criminals 99% of the time dont buy the gun from a gun store, its from jamal on the corner, or they obtain it from a straw purchase. In the case of the straw purchase the gun store owner has no idea what happens to that gun after it leaves the store, as long as its legit at the time of sale its ok to sell it to that person.
WildBillyT
05-08-2007, 10:35 AM
your about 9 min and a post to late...but I completly agree
I agree as well. Banning guns will only take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens.
bad64chevelle
05-08-2007, 12:20 PM
whoever said to ban guns on this post is a moron.
Well, I think youre a little too harsh in youre statement. I dont agree with banning firearms at all but I can clearly understand why someone would say to ban them. Even though we all know what would happen after the ban.
armymp1983
05-08-2007, 12:44 PM
Me and my brother had this discussion yesterday. If every citizen carried a firearm, wouldn't that make this a safer country? People would think twice before robbing an elderly lady, because she might blow his ass away. It worked back in the old days, you've seen the old westerns. But then again i'm the military type so i think a little irrationaly sometimes.
bubba428
05-08-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm with ya on that though man. I do belive if my memory is right, theres a city in georga that requires citizens to cary. and have the lowest crime rate in the country.
baddest434
05-08-2007, 12:51 PM
i heard that news on the radio this morning. i could'nt believe it. right here at home. kudos to the dealer that turned them in. who knows what could have happened. crazy f'n world we live in!!
bubba428
05-08-2007, 12:53 PM
I'm glad to see that theres a few good people left.
procamaroz28
05-08-2007, 01:25 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/08/fortdix.plot/index.html
procamaroz28
05-08-2007, 01:26 PM
i think they should do iq tests for people to get guns or to have children
bubba428
05-08-2007, 01:30 PM
i think they should do iq tests for people to get guns or to have children
How about an IQ test to have an opinion???
Firebird67dude
05-08-2007, 01:32 PM
I agree, kudos to the dealer. Like it was said, we can't just go and ban guns for everyone.
Honestly, I'm suprised we don't hear about these storties more often. Its only a matter of time b4 we get hit again. God forbid it but come on, you knows its going to happen. i'm pissed tho, this only got my mother going even more and she hasn't stopped screaming at me since.
procamaroz28
05-08-2007, 01:40 PM
so your saying any mullet head dumbass should have a gun and thats gonna make everyone safe?? that would work in a small isolated town but not in a over populated area like NJ
procamaroz28
05-08-2007, 01:43 PM
im not saying ban firearms but it would be better to have some kind of standard for people who want to get one
bubba428
05-08-2007, 01:44 PM
i didn't say it was a perfect plan....but maybe an example to look at...the problem is unlike nature..the weak and stupid aren't dying off(i'm talking about darwinism incase you didn't know) so were left with a country full of morons an maniacs
trashman01
05-08-2007, 01:55 PM
Me and my brother had this discussion yesterday. If every citizen carried a firearm, wouldn't that make this a safer country? People would think twice before robbing an elderly lady, because she might blow his ass away. It worked back in the old days, you've seen the old westerns. But then again i'm the military type so i think a little irrationaly sometimes.
finally some1 who thinks like me! listen if u ban firearms, might as well ban fishing polls too then. cuz that can be a weapon also:rolleyes: listen u ban firearms ur keeping the sport of hunting. it pans out further then just a hobbysit who wants that model gun. hell i shoot a 9mm at the range almost everyweekend and im thinking bout picking up another gun(think sniperish) so i can practice at this farmers old corn field on some damn soda cans
Teds89IROC
05-08-2007, 02:19 PM
well we can't just outright ban fire-arms...It doesn't matter, then theres knives, then anything else you can find. its not the weapon, its the user. If there are stricter laws put in place who's going to abide by them, law abiding citizens. Criminals can still get illeagal fire-arms regardles of what the goverment says...so the only people suffering are people doing the right thing. Having these laws in place leave good people with out viable protection from a gun toting maniac...
Couldn't agree more.
What do you think "outlaw" means? It means that they work outside of the law. So what are more laws going to do? We need to stop worrying about helping other countries and protect ourselves and do whats in our best interest. When we catch slime like this, they need to be disposed of, just like thy have done to our people that they've taken hostage over the years. The only way to make all this stop is to show them that we will hit twice as hard in return to what they do to us.
bubba428
05-08-2007, 02:44 PM
OMG one terrorist was a taxi cab driver, one was a pizza boy, one was a gas attendant, and one was a 7/11 clerk...:rofl: OMG I'm accually laughing so hard I'm crying:rofl: and the names were soo funny tatar and duka....anyone see team america....muhammed duka duka is acually a terrorist
Firebird67dude
05-08-2007, 02:57 PM
Couldn't agree more.
What do you think "outlaw" means? It means that they work outside of the law. So what are more laws going to do? We need to stop worrying about helping other countries and protect ourselves and do whats in our best interest. When we catch slime like this, they need to be disposed of, just like thy have done to our people that they've taken hostage over the years. The only way to make all this stop is to show them that we will hit twice as hard in return to what they do to us.
IO agree with you Ted. But the problem is that we need someone with BIG BALLS in office.(Nothing against whos in now)
If you noticed, they dont video other countries' soilders getting beheaded or torchered. Why is this? Its becouse anyother country would be like ok your going to die now. I say we take some of thier "military" guys or "mayrtars" or how ever you spell it and either let bubba take good care of em or just totaly torcher them. Last thing we need in office tho is Democrat asshat.
bubba428
05-08-2007, 02:59 PM
Rob was that you ordering them pizzas :rofl:
bubba428
05-08-2007, 03:05 PM
I say we take some of there "military" guys or "mayrtars" or how ever you spell it and either let bubba take good car of em or just totaly torcher them.
Ok I'm not going to bust your balls about the grammar but, Bubbas got a truck...and a WHOLE lotta rope... I'll leave it at that.
baddest434
05-08-2007, 04:19 PM
Ok I'm not going to bust your balls about the grammar
and you should'nt. every read any of your own post:rofl:
the pizza boy is the one who had access to get on the base to make deliveries. he worked at super mario's pizza in cookstown.
FROM THIS DAY ON I'LL ONLY BUY GAS AT AN AMERICAN OWNED AND OPERATED STATION!!!! can't trust those illegal scumbags anymore.
Firebird67dude
05-08-2007, 04:46 PM
Ok I'm not going to bust your balls about the grammar but, Bubbas got a truck...and a WHOLE lotta rope... I'll leave it at that.
But i fixed it minus the spelling.
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 07:37 PM
whoever said to ban guns on this post is a moron. just wait until the day youd need one to protect your self and all you have is a water gun (which the dems would probably outlaw them too), youll be wishing you had a HK or a Ar around :) . as what bubba said only the honest/law abiding citizen gets screwed when they make laws, criminals 99% of the time dont buy the gun from a gun store, its from jamal on the corner, or they obtain it from a straw purchase. In the case of the straw purchase the gun store owner has no idea what happens to that gun after it leaves the store, as long as its legit at the time of sale its ok to sell it to that person.
thank you. and for the record, i will never shoot someone. tell me i have no balls or whatever, but i'd rather die than kill another human being.
and this thread got dumber than the idiots that bought AKs in cherry hill. banning the distribution of arms is not a solution, but it is a step in the right direction. these guys tried to purchase their guns legally, and as did Cho. making them illegal will make it that much harder to obtain. someone tell me one legit downside that isn't already a problem in this country.
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 07:41 PM
and you should'nt. every read any of your own post:rofl:
the pizza boy is the one who had access to get on the base to make deliveries. he worked at super mario's pizza in cookstown.
FROM THIS DAY ON I'LL ONLY BUY GAS AT AN AMERICAN OWNED AND OPERATED STATION!!!! can't trust those illegal scumbags anymore.
ignorance is bliss huh? you know, most of the terrorists are here on visa or are even citizens. and even your family was once an immigrant to this country. i'd expect something a little more intelligent from someone you're age.
Teds89IROC
05-08-2007, 09:37 PM
thank you. and for the record, i will never shoot someone. tell me i have no balls or whatever, but i'd rather die than kill another human being.
.
Even if someone was trying to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them first? just curious. I could never shoot someone just for the sake of shooting them but if they were attacking me and that was my only defense then so be it.
Firebird67dude
05-08-2007, 09:45 PM
to get a gun illegal and seel for a profit....
1. Go to florida or any southern state
2. Find any back woods hick with no teeth and has other guns
3. Gun is say $1500
4. Pay hick $1750 to buy gun for you
5. Make way back up here
6a. Either shoot up spomething
6b. Sell on the street for profit.
The number on the gun will go back to the hick and that would be that, if the gun is ever found.
Jake, you bring up a good point about how they are either citizens or here on visas. Does anyone know how hard it is to be allowed to come over here? It is easier for a person of middle eastern desent to come here than it is for a person from the UK to come here. Don't argue because my cuz from England has been trying to come here and can't.
In stead of makeing guns illegal, myb make it harder for ppl. to be allowed to come here. I'm not saying racil profile but what nationality are these terrorists? not pointing fingers dont get me wrong but come on now.
I don't understand how someone could say they'd never shoot someone. If it came down to either you dieing or u shooting someone who is an ENEMY so you live, I think the answer is ovious. If someone then says you have no balls for your view, you need to look at who its coming from. IDK, myb its just me growing upo hunting or the life direction I decided to take but I think the answers are ovious.
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 09:45 PM
Even if someone was trying to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them first? just curious. I could never shoot someone just for the sake of shooting them but if they were attacking me and that was my only defense then so be it.
nope... ultimate judgement is left for God. killing someone is defying God's will. theology isn't a topic tough guys like to talk about on message boards, but the fact of the matter is, you're ultimate fate is predetermined. i mean, granted you may or may not believe what i'm saying, but this is what I believe, and i stand firmly upon my beliefs.
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 09:50 PM
Jake, you bring up a good point about how they are either citizens or here on visas. Does anyone know how hard it is to be allowed to come over here? It is easier for a person of middle eastern desent to come here than it is for a person from the UK to come here. Don't argue because my cuz from England has been trying to come here and can't.
you know why tim? thats because people in the UK are educated and would take our jobs. now someone from the middle east, is stuck working minimum wage unskilled jobs. they take up the crap, poorly paying jobs shared along side the minority groups, we take the high paying white collar jobs. everyone is happy...
Teds89IROC
05-08-2007, 09:59 PM
nope... ultimate judgement is left for God. killing someone is defying God's will. theology isn't a topic tough guys like to talk about on message boards, but the fact of the matter is, you're ultimate fate is predetermined. i mean, granted you may or may not believe what i'm saying, but this is what I believe, and i stand firmly upon my beliefs.
interesting, but self defense is a whole nother rissue. The bible does have passages about protecting your house and family from theives
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 10:13 PM
interesting, but self defense is a whole nother rissue. The bible does have passages about protecting your house and family from theives
that was in the Jewish Torah. in the New Testament, Jesus specifically states: Thou shall not kill
camaroracer1992
05-08-2007, 10:25 PM
thank you. and for the record, i will never shoot someone. tell me i have no balls or whatever, but i'd rather die than kill another human being.
and this thread got dumber than the idiots that bought AKs in cherry hill. banning the distribution of arms is not a solution, but it is a step in the right direction. these guys tried to purchase their guns legally, and as did Cho. making them illegal will make it that much harder to obtain. someone tell me one legit downside that isn't already a problem in this country.
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Teds89IROC
05-08-2007, 10:30 PM
in the new testament, Jesus told the disciples in the last hours with them "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a sack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" back then the sword was the best weapon available. Later was the incident where peter cut off the ear of the servant and Jesus told him to put the sword by his side. He only said this because the swords were to protect their own mortal life, not Jesus' because his will was to die for our sins.
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 10:52 PM
in the new testament, Jesus told the disciples in the last hours with them "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a sack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" back then the sword was the best weapon available. Later was the incident where peter cut off the ear of the servant and Jesus told him to put the sword by his side. He only said this because the swords were to protect their own mortal life, not Jesus' because his will was to die for our sins.
this was a figurative speech. Christ only spoke of a "spiritual" means of confronting an enemy. when Peter cut off the soldiers ear, Christ did not condone it, He rather retorted and said "enough!" the apostles were unable to grasp this. with the benefit of hindsight, we understand what Christ was saying because He did not condone the use of the sword when the soldiers came to subdue Jesus in Gethsemane. it's confusing indeed, but it all makes sense if you think of it in terms of figurative language.
qwikz28
05-08-2007, 10:54 PM
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
i'm glad you're rebuttal was well thought out. i'm also glad you're too prideful to apologize for you're slander. quite fitting for a 27 year old...
98tadriver
05-08-2007, 11:02 PM
that was in the Jewish Torah. in the New Testament, Jesus specifically states: Thou shall not kill
Thou shalt accidentally fall down my stairs onto some bullets..
Firebird67dude
05-08-2007, 11:36 PM
All right ppl. enough. Topic is done. cook and sent to the table to eat. leave it alone. they cought them and thats it. Be thankful that nothign happened. All you can do from this is keep your eyes open and report anything out of order.
This is turning into a lose your friends thread.
All in all... they started it and all we need is someone in office with balls to finish this. All I know is that if someone is gunna try and kill me they are gunna die first. if it wasnt for killing no one would be her in the first place. you think anyone fighting in and of the WW care what the hell the bible says? hell friggin no. When it comes down to it defense is natural.
I dont get how anyone can say they wouldnt kill someone trying to kill them. Waht if you get off your comp and get in your car and drive around and nail some jerk who stepped off a side walk and you kill him. Either way accident or not you killed someone so figuatively ur going where ever or whatever your bad place is when you dide. unless you believe ull come back as a squierrl of some crap, cuz then you have your own issues.
OoOand i hate quoting something not exact but isnt it somewhere in the bible "eye for an eye"? No matter what book its in, its in there.
And for the fall down stairs post... WOW i think im now half retarded after reading that
Firebird67dude
05-08-2007, 11:51 PM
. making them illegal will make it that much harder to obtain.
Easiest way to obtain a gun with no paper trail to you...
1. drive to southern state
2. Find a toothlees farmer hick that has several guns already
3. Pay him $1750 for a $1000 gun.
4. Bring gun back upo here
5a. Shoot up something
5b. Sell on the street for more money than you payed for it.
Very easy to obtain guns. So making them illegal is not the answer. Taking the illegal one off the street is a better option.
Savage_Messiah
05-09-2007, 12:21 AM
Don't we all know by now that this political crap, and even more the religious crap, leads to nowhere good on a message board? I was about to get involved but I'm holding myself back because it would do nothing but make this thread even worse.
qwikz28
05-09-2007, 07:26 AM
ok aside from the political/religious arguments... i still don't get why people are so attached to fire arms. with the obvious exception of hunting equipment and the few police officers on this board. but what good does holding a weapon do? you're most likely never going to fire it. and if you do fire it, it's most probably gonna put you in trouble. or even worse, if problems arouse, and you are holding a firearm, you are definately gonna have fingers pointed you're way
Savage_Messiah
05-09-2007, 07:29 AM
AFAIK we're about the strictest with the gun laws, and have the highest rate/amount of gun violence. Could be wrong, but we're at least up there with both. Coincidence?
Teds89IROC
05-09-2007, 11:07 AM
ok aside from the political/religious arguments... i still don't get why people are so attached to fire arms. with the obvious exception of hunting equipment and the few police officers on this board. but what good does holding a weapon do? you're most likely never going to fire it. and if you do fire it, it's most probably gonna put you in trouble. or even worse, if problems arouse, and you are holding a firearm, you are definately gonna have fingers pointed you're way
Look at New Orleans, what saved a lot of those people's posessions from looters were guns. Even right here in Paterson when we had all that rain, it was the same thing.
EDIT: it's not so much using the gun, its the fact that when people know you have one, they know not to break into your house or simply mess with you. If some guy is trying to break into your house and you stand there with a gun pointed at his head, he will most likely try to run away
qwikz28
05-09-2007, 12:51 PM
Look at New Orleans, what saved a lot of those people's posessions from looters were guns. Even right here in Paterson when we had all that rain, it was the same thing.
EDIT: it's not so much using the gun, its the fact that when people know you have one, they know not to break into your house or simply mess with you. If some guy is trying to break into your house and you stand there with a gun pointed at his head, he will most likely try to run away
point taken.... am i the only person that gets upset from conversations like these?
bubba428
05-09-2007, 12:54 PM
I'm not upset but I belive VERY strongly behind my point of veiw on the matter.
armymp1983
05-09-2007, 12:56 PM
that was in the Jewish Torah. in the New Testament, Jesus specifically states: Thou shall not kill
Does this apply to soldiers as well, including those things we do for our country?:?:
qwikz28
05-09-2007, 01:01 PM
Does this apply to soldiers as well, including those things we do for our country?:?:
you bring up an interesting point, but i cannot go into too much detail about it. google up "St. Augustine's Just War Doctrine" and read about it. it basically sanctions war on the basis of utilitarianism, or in other words, the most good for the most people (this may apply to the war in Iraq). or a pre-emptive war, which is a war that prevents another war (for example, the war in Afghanistan which was used to defeat Al-Qaida to prevent terrorist attacks). its all a matter of intent, what are your goals in taking another persons life? is it for your own personal benefit? or is it to protect those who cannot protect themselves? In the just war doctrine, St. Augustine leaves this up to the soldier to decide btw...
bubba428
05-09-2007, 01:02 PM
I'm sorry, and I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this BUT, I just can't live my life by what an out-dated story book says. I think the self sacrifice soldiers make should be regarded higher than what they do to protect the rest of us...
armymp1983
05-09-2007, 01:09 PM
I'm sorry, and I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this BUT, I just can't live my life by what an out-dated story book says. I think the self sacrifice soldiers make should be regarded high than what the do to protect the rest of us...
Thanks man, i've served 5 years possibly going to do another 15. I understand those who like firearms. Doesn't mean because you have the biggest rifle or the best pistol makes you have a huge penis. Having firearms is a peace of mind. protection of yourself and your family. What i don't agree with is these 16-18 year old"thugs" carrying thinking they are going to be the next 50 cent. But then again if everyone carried it wouldn't be an issue.
qwikz28
05-09-2007, 01:48 PM
Thanks man, i've served 5 years possibly going to do another 15. I understand those who like firearms. Doesn't mean because you have the biggest rifle or the best pistol makes you have a huge penis. Having firearms is a peace of mind. protection of yourself and your family. What i don't agree with is these 16-18 year old"thugs" carrying thinking they are going to be the next 50 cent. But then again if everyone carried it wouldn't be an issue.
but how come no one tries to solve the issue of having "thugs" carry firearms? is it that impossible to solve that efforts are worthless? i'm not the kind of guy that can accept that conclusion easily. i like to go down swinging...
and bubba- you say the Bible is outdated? but if the Bible was written yesterday, you would be crying that it had no historical credibility. its a two-way street.
but i'm done preaching theology to a group of people who are so set on their ways that they are unwilling to hear an opposing view. they have a word for it: "ignorance." but if you are interested in hearing the good news, feel free to PM me, otherwise, i'm giving up on preaching. and i'm sorry if i came off like i'm trying to push my religion upon you guys, even though thats exactly what i was doing.
bubba428
05-09-2007, 01:49 PM
Thanks man, i've served 5 years possibly going to do another 15. I understand those who like firearms. Doesn't mean because you have the biggest rifle or the best pistol makes you have a huge penis. Having firearms is a peace of mind. protection of yourself and your family. What i don't agree with is these 16-18 year old"thugs" carrying thinking they are going to be the next 50 cent. But then again if everyone carried it wouldn't be an issue.
well If every one carried it would stop gang violence BUT by stander would be more effectivly prepaired to protect them selves.
Tru2Chevy
05-09-2007, 02:09 PM
well If every one carried it would stop gang violence BUT by stander would be more effectivly prepaired to protect them selves.
Did you mean it wouldn't stop gang violence, but innocent bystanders would be more prepared to protect themselves?
- Justin
bubba428
05-09-2007, 02:16 PM
Did you mean it wouldn't stop gang violence, but innocent bystanders would be more prepared to protect themselves?
- Justin
indeed sir
Brando56894
05-09-2007, 04:55 PM
that plot against fort dix thing was all over the news yesterday and the day before, it was on like every channel
Savage_Messiah
05-10-2007, 03:26 AM
The Bible is nothing more than a book people wrote, it is no different from say the lord of the rings.
And the main point of a religion is to control people.
Discuss.
1972LT1
05-10-2007, 06:08 AM
The Bible is nothing more than a book people wrote, it is no different from say the lord of the rings.
And the main point of a religion is to control people.
Discuss.
QFT!
They just reported on the 7am Fox News that one of the terrorists was using equipment at the Mt Laurel Circuit City to dub a Al-kaida training vid and an employee tipped off the cops.
qwikz28
05-10-2007, 11:00 AM
The Bible is nothing more than a book people wrote, it is no different from say the lord of the rings.
And the main point of a religion is to control people.
Discuss.
actually, wrong on both accounts. but i don't feel like going into it, my words fall on deaf ears
Savage_Messiah
05-10-2007, 11:04 AM
Show me tangible proof that a God exists and that the bible is his word.
qwikz28
05-10-2007, 11:26 AM
Show me tangible proof that a God exists and that the bible is his word.
lets start here: do you believe there was a person named Jesus of Nazareth that roamed the earth at the start of the 1st century?
slugger27nj
05-10-2007, 12:05 PM
:popcorn:
(I've always wanted to use that smilie...haha)
Teds89IROC
05-10-2007, 12:21 PM
but i'm done preaching theology to a group of people who are so set on their ways that they are unwilling to hear an opposing view. they have a word for it: "ignorance." but if you are interested in hearing the good news, feel free to PM me, otherwise, i'm giving up on preaching. and i'm sorry if i came off like i'm trying to push my religion upon you guys, even though thats exactly what i was doing.
not sure if I'm included in this but I was willing to hear your views, in fact I asked for clarification when you mentioned you would never kill another human. I believe in God and the bible and everything, I just don't agree with letting someone take my life without fighting back.
Tru2Chevy
05-10-2007, 12:27 PM
I'm thinking that we should steer clear of the religion discussion before this gets ugly......
- Justin
WildBillyT
05-10-2007, 12:36 PM
lets start here: do you believe there was a person named Jesus of Nazareth that roamed the earth at the start of the 1st century?
Oh man, here comes the historical Jesus battle.:shock:
BonzoHansen
05-10-2007, 01:35 PM
Oh man, here comes the historical Jesus battle.:shock:
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bubba428
05-10-2007, 04:20 PM
lets start here: do you believe there was a person named Jesus of Nazareth that roamed the earth at the start of the 1st century?
YES...BUT he was not the son of god but a carpenter named joe...Mary and Joe lie because in they're time a couple would be STONED to death for having premarital relations...I can keep on going but I doubt you want to loose this arguement.
Tru2Chevy
05-10-2007, 04:24 PM
I'm thinking that we should steer clear of the religion discussion before this gets ugly......
- Justin
Now I'm saying that you should all steer clear of the religious discussion.
- Justin
GP99GT
05-10-2007, 04:24 PM
i believe in the flying spaghetti monster
edit: this was in jest
qwikz28
05-10-2007, 11:57 PM
i know a really hot girl that lives in cherry hill
Brando56894
05-11-2007, 12:10 AM
well we can't just outright ban fire-arms...It doesn't matter, then theres knives, then anything else you can find. its not the weapon, its the user. If there are stricter laws put in place who's going to abide by them, law abiding citizens. Criminals can still get illeagal fire-arms regardles of what the goverment says...so the only people suffering are people doing the right thing. Having these laws in place leave good people with out viable protection from a gun toting maniac...
:werd:
Me and my brother had this discussion yesterday. If every citizen carried a firearm, wouldn't that make this a safer country? People would think twice before robbing an elderly lady, because she might blow his ass away. It worked back in the old days, you've seen the old westerns. But then again i'm the military type so i think a little irrationaly sometimes.
i totally agree with you. thats how it is in florida, since as long as you have a carry permit you can pack heat. you would definitely think twice about messing with people.
Majority of criminals get guns illegally, banning the distribution of firearms would only pull them from the arms of law-abiding citizens. BTW you can have my firearms when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers.
alright Charleston Heston :D
my mom told me today that one of them was from Buena Vista (a small township right outside of vineland) how nuts is that??
1972LT1
05-11-2007, 12:26 AM
i know a really hot girl that lives in cherry hill
I live there....tons of"hotties" but they're all stuck up bi+ches and 2 faced HO's.
Jersey_TA
05-11-2007, 12:36 AM
I live there....tons of"hotties" but they're all stuck up bi+ches and 2 faced HO's.
ahahahahahahaha oh wow. Tell us how you really feel LOL:rofl:
ok, well first off , let me say that i read the first post of this thread as i was about to leave for the local recruiting station. how messed up are people these days, it pisses me off so bad, how dare they attempt this kind of stuff, i think they should all recieve the death penelty.
as for the willingness to kill another human, it all depends on situation. IF at any point i feel im in danger of losing my own life, the person causing that will be in danger themselves. I will NOT hesitate to end a threat to my own life, be it with a gun, or the undercarriage of my truck.
Im going to stop right now with this post since its getting annoying to reread and edit over and over again since im currelty under the inflenece of alcohol.
1972LT1
05-11-2007, 01:06 AM
Not "how I really feel" Truth hurts. There's alot of women around here who think their s#it don't stink, they're so much better than everyone, then in the next conversation you can hear them talk @ what they sucked last night or who they did what with. They walk around wearing pants too tight with "pink" or "hottie" written on the butt, but you're a perv for looking.
Jersey_TA
05-11-2007, 01:16 AM
Not "how I really feel" Truth hurts. There's alot of women around here who think their s#it don't stink, they're so much better than everyone, then in the next conversation you can hear them talk @ what they sucked last night or who they did what with. They walk around wearing pants too tight with "pink" or "hottie" written on the butt, but you're a perv for looking.
I'm not saying you're wrong because there are only a handfull of women I have met here in NJ that classify as a human being.
qwikz28
05-11-2007, 12:43 PM
I'm not saying you're wrong because there are only a handfull of women I have met here in NJ that classify as a human being.
i met a good one. i always promised myself i would never date a girl unless she really sweeps me off my feet. we dated for a couple months, and we just broke up. we're both trying to get into grad school and we decided if the "spark" is still there when the time comes, then we will get back together. i decided i'm willing to wait for that day.
so what i'm trying to say is, have hope and be patient. there are a few good ones out there
Savage_Messiah
05-11-2007, 02:27 PM
Yeah... I was in that type of situation before..... then she turned otu to be a f@#$%ing psychopath
procamaroz28
05-11-2007, 04:45 PM
Now I'm saying that you should all steer clear of the religious discussion.
- Justin
agree this is a f-body forum
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