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Camvill
07-06-2007, 05:37 PM
recently got 3.73 gears installed by motive gears and they started grinding >_< im takin it back monday
did they do a full rebuild with new bearings and ***** or just install gears?
Camvill
07-06-2007, 08:35 PM
FUll rebuuilddddd
did you break it in right?
WildBillyT
07-06-2007, 09:17 PM
did you break it in right?
Damn good question. Find this out.
I'm guessing they half assed the backlash or contact pattern.
Camvill
07-06-2007, 11:21 PM
There is NO such thing as breaking in gears.
Knipps
07-06-2007, 11:58 PM
There is NO such thing as breaking in gears.
because you know everything and no one else knows ****
bad64chevelle
07-07-2007, 12:32 AM
There is NO such thing as breaking in gears.
:lol:
Featherburner
07-07-2007, 07:59 AM
There is NO such thing as breaking in gears.
Really?
WildBillyT
07-07-2007, 08:42 AM
There is NO such thing as breaking in gears.
I'm not even going to laugh like the other guys, because I have a feeling the shop told you this.
Read this:
http://www.4x4now.com/gt0999.htm
Note the name at the top. Randy Lyman, or the Randy in Randy's ring and pinion. All gear manufacturers recommend a break in, especially for street use. If your gears are galled or damaged due to improper break in chances are they will NOT be covered under warranty.
JSPERFORMANCE
07-07-2007, 09:33 AM
for street gears there is definately a break in period. Get your facts straight before you insert foot in mouth..
Camvill
07-07-2007, 03:47 PM
they were too tight
98tadriver
07-07-2007, 03:48 PM
for street gears there is definately a break in period. Get your facts straight before you insert foot in mouth..
:werd: kid, you bring stuff on yourself sometimes... lol
josh- you broke in your gears a lil too much at atco the other night!
Camvill
07-07-2007, 03:51 PM
makes more people respond when i seem like i kno what im talking about
JSPERFORMANCE
07-08-2007, 08:59 PM
josh- you broke in your gears a lil too much at atco the other night!
emphasis on broke... lol! Hey it just means that the motor is making power right?
WildBillyT
07-09-2007, 08:38 PM
emphasis on broke... lol! Hey it just means that the motor is making power right?
And hey, your tires work :mrgreen:
98tadriver
07-09-2007, 10:37 PM
emphasis on broke... lol! Hey it just means that the motor is making power right?
And hey, your tires work :mrgreen:
True and true again!
josh didnt break them in, he broke them out......
and not having a break in period for gears is the stupidest thing ive ever heard
JSPERFORMANCE
07-10-2007, 11:19 AM
josh didnt break them in, he broke them out......
:rofl:
Camvill
07-10-2007, 10:54 PM
well turns out the bolt on my pinion was loose haha now i cant even hear my gears
camaro2you
07-11-2007, 10:38 AM
might want to change that fluid again if it hasnt been done already.
so how many miles did you put on the car with the backlash too tight and the pinion bolt too loose?
and be honest.......how hard did you beat on the car to test the new gears......
your rear is not long for this word depending on the answers to these 2 questions
sdm1234
08-21-2007, 12:14 PM
how much is a full rebuild?
JSPERFORMANCE
08-21-2007, 07:18 PM
My rebuild service includes tearing down the rear diff, cleaning the housing and all parts to be re-used and inspecting them for damage or excessive wear, then installing all new races, bearings, your new gear set, and setting everything at the proper backlash and pinion depth using new pro grade shims which are a better design than those commonly found in "overhaul kits", this design makes it impossible for shims to walk out of their intended location once they are tightened down.
labor- $300
parts prices may vary
Josh
Blacdout96
08-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Great write up!! that might explain a few things for me. Two years ago I was working at a repair shop and deicded to put a posi unit in my rear ( this is before I researched things lol ) turns out it didnt work, so I put my old diff in and had my friend use a back lash tool cause i didnt know how it worked. about 2 month worth of driving later on it ( cause my car was not runnign for 10 months) i changed my fluid and bearings and seals for the axles, and took off to conneticut. before that I drove around town so it wasent very long trips. By the time I got to conneticut i hada bad humming sound, and drove back home with it. here my passenger side bearing locked up, but why? I went to remove the axles to replace it, and as I turned the diff, i was missing teeth!! here the metal shards from the teeth messed the bearing up. The ring and pinion were set too tight, so I guess he knew just as much asbout it as i did about the tool then lol. so moral of the story is, dont let friends do the work thats for professionals.
Tru2Chevy
08-25-2007, 07:51 PM
Great write up!! that might explain a few things for me. Two years ago I was working at a repair shop and deicded to put a posi unit in my rear ( this is before I researched things lol ) turns out it didnt work, so I put my old diff in and had my friend use a back lash tool cause i didnt know how it worked.
If all you were doing was changing carriers (same gears) then no setting of backlash is necessary.
- Justin
JSPERFORMANCE
08-25-2007, 10:02 PM
If all you were doing was changing carriers (same gears) then no setting of backlash is necessary.
- Justin
Actually, it is the pinion depth that does not need to be re-set in that situation.
NightRydaSS
08-26-2007, 08:50 AM
My rebuild service includes tearing down the rear diff, cleaning the housing and all parts to be re-used and inspecting them for damage or excessive wear, then installing all new races, bearings, your new gear set, and setting everything at the proper backlash and pinion depth using new pro grade shims which are a better design than those commonly found in "overhaul kits", this design makes it impossible for shims to walk out of their intended location once they are tightened down.
labor- $300
parts prices may vary
Josh
that is all you charge for labor? WOW!
Blacdout96
08-26-2007, 09:57 AM
well remember theres a crush collar on the pinion, and thats a one time use. and I was going from 3.08's to 3.42's so it had different carriers, and it was my dd at the time so I had to get it done asap. stupid move on my part. what can I say i was 19 at the time, when I thought I knew my **** lol.
Z28Justin
08-30-2007, 11:56 PM
My rebuild service includes tearing down the rear diff, cleaning the housing and all parts to be re-used and inspecting them for damage or excessive wear, then installing all new races, bearings, your new gear set, and setting everything at the proper backlash and pinion depth using new pro grade shims which are a better design than those commonly found in "overhaul kits", this design makes it impossible for shims to walk out of their intended location once they are tightened down.
labor- $300
parts prices may vary
Josh
can you tune to correct the speedo?
JSPERFORMANCE
08-31-2007, 06:46 AM
can you tune to correct the speedo?
I will be able to tune 98 and newer cars in the very near future. I have been meaning to get with Foff to get set up with HP tuners but I have been extremely busy lately. In the mean time I do have someone that I can reccomend you to.
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