NJSPEEDER VS Buoniconti81

[Icemansghost]

Tim thinks he can beet me. Sooooooo I'm willing to race him anybody wanna watch wed at Englishtown. By the way I'm Gary. I drive a 1998 Corvette, I have installed Vararam, long tube headers, x pipe corsa performance exhaust, and a asp underdrive pulley. Tim on the other hand has a 1999 SS Camaro, with only a cat back. I'm curious as to know if he's lying as to what was done.


Poll here: http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29062

[deadtrend1]

Tim don't lie. He's a drag racing machine.

[Icemansghost]

Does anyone wanna go......

[Icemansghost]

Was this deleted

[deadtrend1]

Was this deleted

no .... moved.....

[qwikz28]

Was this deleted
you wouldn't be posting in it if it were deleted... and if i finish my HW in time wed, i will be there

[88BluBird]

i may be there..what time are you going Gary?

[Mike]

englishtown wont be open wednesday, they will be setting up for the swap meet

but if im wrong, ill be there

[NJSPEEDER]

etown shows as open wednesday night on their schedule for the usual noise night :)

the car only has the cat back and the whisper lid, jsut like the sig says. some little stuff has been ordered for ht ecar, but will not be here before you and i race wednesday.

see you at work and at the track buddy :)

[NJSPEEDER]

p.s. for anyone who hadn't heard before, i have worked with gary for a while now and we are both car guys. we bust each others stones all the time, so this should be fun.

[NJSPEEDER]

THE TALE OF THE TAPE

Gary's 1998 Corvette

stock curb weight 3245
factory HP Rating:345
transmission: automatic
performance mads: Long Tubes, Vararam CAI, Corsa Cat-Back w/ X-pipe

Tim's 1999 Z28

stock curb weight: 3580
factory hp rating: 305
transmission: T56
performance mods: SLP Loudmouth Cat-Back, Whisper Lid

on paper the answer is clear, but we don't race on paper, so we will see how it goes. i gotta take the tree from him pretty bad to even this up and since it has been years since i have competitively driven a stick car, my odds of blowing it even if i do steal the hit are still pretty high. lol

[Ian]

I might head down after work. how much is it to watch?

[bad64chevelle]

Englishtown is like $15,000 to watch on a wednesday night...or something like that. :lol:

[Tru2Chevy]

I'll be working and won't be able to make it :( Hopefully someone will be able to tape it (Tim should have his video camera with him).


Any cash ridin' on this race, or just Lowes Pride? :lol:

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

Any cash ridin' on this race, or just Lowes Pride? :lol:


hmmmmm, interesting question. gary?

[Demonicbird00]

seeing as tim has the t56 and hasnt raced in a while. he could knock out a high 12

garys never raced but has the advantage of the auto and not spinning as much plus the lighter car and more mods, he COULD potentialy go mid 12s.

if i put money on it id say gary by about a car. $20

gary PM me for tips :)

-brandon

[Icemansghost]

He's lucky the hypertech tuner isnt in, and my asp underdrive pulley isnt on yet, maybe tue That alone should add 25 more horse.....Oh well...How much is it to race?

[NJSPEEDER]

haha, thanks for the love demonicbird. giving my opponent tips. i love it.
like i said in the tale of the tape, the winner on paper is obvious. so it is up to me to steal the hit and not screw up.
it is all for fun and maybe some lunch money, so it is worth it either way.

btw gary, it is jsut a Z28, not an SS as you put in your original post. talk to me at work monday if you wanna drop a few bucks into this game.

[Demonicbird00]

hehe, i know tim. this is actually gonna be a real tight race. just dont miss a shift!!

-brandon

btw itll prolly be about 20 bucks to race there. never raced there so im not positive. i know atco is only 13 bucks to run

[Icemansghost]

Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[98tadriver]

automatic with full exhaust and no stall converter? would that hurt him down low a lil bit?

my 98 went 12.97 @ 110 with a lid and catback on street tires, with a 2.06 60'

Tim, get a nice R/T, and a decent launch and no missed shifts, i think youll take him.

and remember the article from GMHTP? Evan Smith from Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords went 12.89@109.18 in a bone stock 6 speed camaro off of the showroom floor.

[NJSPEEDER]

yeah, but i know evan, he is prolly a better stick driver than anyone in this club. he also had the quickest test pass ever in a cobra R.
with the two little bolt ons i am confident that i can see a low 13, maybe a 12 if things go perfect. taking the tree from gary is definately gonna make or break this match up, cause he will kill me on the back end of the track.

[98tadriver]

yeah, but i know evan, he is prolly a better stick driver than anyone in this club. he also had the quickest test pass ever in a cobra R.
with the two little bolt ons i am confident that i can see a low 13, maybe a 12 if things go perfect. taking the tree from gary is definately gonna make or break this match up, cause he will kill me on the back end of the track.

let evan drive your car then lol

[12secondv6]

Tim..... come up here and buy my 10 bolt.... it has 4:10's and a locker!!!!

Best of luck!

[Icemansghost]

automatic with full exhaust and no stall converter? would that hurt him down low a lil bit?

my 98 went 12.97 @ 110 with a lid and catback on street tires, with a 2.06 60'

Tim, get a nice R/T, and a decent launch and no missed shifts, i think youll take him.

and remember the article from GMHTP? Evan Smith from Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords went 12.89@109.18 in a bone stock 6 speed camaro off of the showroom floor.

I'm sorry but tim's car isn't off the show room floor, and it's still a camaro no offense but they didn't build corvette's to get beat by stock camaro's. The only way tim will beat me is if I let him. I'm confident my Corvette will win! Hey tim lets see loser buys the other Ruby Tuesday's. I feel like having a steak. Medium rare Hahahahahahahahahaha

[Icemansghost]

Hey Tim, Someone's gotta pick on ya. LOL

[NJSPEEDER]

gary, how many times can we have the 40k sports car vs the 28k 4seater discussion before you understand that i know corvettes are quicker off the showroom floor. the thing you seem to be missing is that you still have to drive it son, and that means there is always a chance of you losing.
yes i am gambling on it, but it is for fun anyway so what do i care. ruby's? if that is what you are willing to risk, it's on like donkey kong!!!

[12secondv6]

Mom's 98 c5 auto went 13.3 at 104 w/ hypertech, 160 thermo, drop in k&n and relocated mass air temp sensor.


If drivers were equal I would lean towards the vette..... but tim has a good drag racing back ground.

I'm gonna lean towards tim

[Icemansghost]

See We have something to go about on... I also have the vararam intake... Ive been wanting to race for a long time. I'm only busting your b+lls.. My Corvette only cost me 18 grand.

[NJSPEEDER]

haha, you payed twice what i did. bahahahahaha :rofl:
and you always wonder why i bust on corvette owners. no room, doesn't ride any nicer than an f-body, and you paid double. bahahahahah

[Icemansghost]

No rpo code f45...rides better than any camaro. and the corvette downforce is much better than your ride.

[Tru2Chevy]

No rpo code f45...rides better than any camaro. and the corvette downforce is much better than your ride.

Downforce works against you on the dragstrip....... :nod:

- Justin

[Icemansghost]

Downforce works against you on the dragstrip....... :nod:

- Justin

:moon:

[Tru2Chevy]

Before anyone says anything, I'll rephrase.

In this scenario, with these two cars, downforce will work against you. Maybe if we were talking about a couple of 6 or 7 second rides you could brag about your downforce......

- Justin

[Icemansghost]

haha, you payed twice what i did. bahahahahaha :rofl:
and you always wonder why i bust on corvette owners. no room, doesn't ride any nicer than an f-body, and you paid double. bahahahahah

RPO F55





The optional F55 Magnetic Selective Ride Control suspension features magneto-rheological dampers able to detect road surfaces and adjust the damping rates to those surfaces almost instantly for optimal ride and body control. The system has been improved for the C6, allowing drivers more differentiation in character between the system’s two settings, “Tour” and “Sport".

Thats one reason why they cost more.

[NJSPEEDER]

sooooo, what you are saying is that for only 9k more than i paid you got a button that isn't going to help you one little bit at the drag strip? wow, that clears everything up. what an awesome deal you got afterall. lol :rofl:

[Icemansghost]

You also get Hud, dual climate control, a targa top, 6 way power memory seats, more trunk space. My gas mileage in my 1997 m6 z28 took me to virginia, my corvette took my to North Carolina on a tank of gas. Corvettes look better!!!!!

[Icemansghost]

If Tim Wins I will wear a pink tight shirt to work...

[Tru2Chevy]

If Tim Wins I will wear a pink tight shirt to work...

Quoted just so you can't edit this after you get spanked :mrgreen:

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

umm, the seats are approximately 10inches apart, how important is dual zone climate control at that point? does a magical wall pop out and keep your air away from the passengers air?
no matter how many way adjustable seats are, i don't ever move mine. so i will put that in the useless column as well.
HUD, who needs it. if you are going so fast that you can't afford to look down, you don't need to check if you are exceeding the speed limit.
a trip to NC on a tank of gas, so you get high 20's mpg on the hgihway, oh wait, the camaro does too. file that under whoopity friggin doo. i also don't see why you wuld think gas mileage is the primary concern of anyone buying a V8 to drive everyday. if i cared about mileage above all else, i would gt an aveo, they get like 37 on the highway
i don't know what was wrong with your 97, but you shoudl have had it looked at, was that the one that you blew up the rear in and bought the 18k vette instead of fixing the rear under warranty?
looks? i think the C5 and C6 vettes look like european turds. i haven't liked the styling of any vettes past the mid 70's, and even many of the 70's model years i coudl do without. looks are individual taste, so that doesn't account for much either way anyhow.

so far i am not seeing any real advantages to your vette, and certainly none that would ever convince me that it is worth double what my car is.

[12secondv6]

I have spare nitrous bottle laying around that assures Tim's win

[Frosty]

Tim...unless Gary tards out at the line you're so toast it's not even funny.

It's Gary's race to lose...and I'm not saying that because I'm a vette owner, I'm saying that because your cars are close when stock and he has more mods than you. My vette the way it sits would run faster than your SS and Gary has more mods than I do.

[Frosty]

haha, you payed twice what i did. bahahahahaha :rofl:
and you always wonder why i bust on corvette owners. no room, doesn't ride any nicer than an f-body, and you paid double. bahahahahah

No room? I don't have any storage space issues...and my vette rides nicer than my Z did(though the Z handled a lot better).

Ever drive one? The fit and finish is leaps and bounds above a Fbody.

With that said I still want another thirdgen. :(

[Icemansghost]

THE TALE OF THE TAPE

Gary's 1998 Corvette

stock curb weight 3245
factory HP Rating:345
transmission: automatic
performance mads: Long Tubes, Vararam CAI, Corsa Cat-Back w/ X-pipe

Tim's 1999 Z28

stock curb weight: 3580
factory hp rating: 305
transmission: T56
performance mods: SLP Loudmouth Cat-Back, Whisper Lid

on paper the answer is clear, but we don't race on paper, so we will see how it goes. i gotta take the tree from him pretty bad to even this up and since it has been years since i have competitively driven a stick car, my odds of blowing it even if i do steal the hit are still pretty high. lol

Tim's Gonna Loose!!!!!!!

[NJSPEEDER]

i understand that. haven't stated it any other way from the start. but we still have to run it to make it true.

and gary, the word is LOSE. never thought i woudl meet anyone who spells worse than me.

[Icemansghost]

I agree Frosty my 1991 Z28 was the best car I ever had!

[Frosty]

i understand that. haven't stated it any other way from the start. but we still have to run it to make it true.

and gary, the word is LOSE. never thought i woudl meet anyone who spells worse than me.

He's calling you loose man. I didn't think you swung that way. :rofl: :rofl:

Racing is fun, as is the trash talking. Have fun :)

[bad64chevelle]

He's lucky the hypertech tuner isnt in, and my asp underdrive pulley isnt on yet, maybe tue That alone should add 25 more horse

Is that what the packaging told you?

[Frosty]

I didn't want to say anything but the Hyperjunk won't do **** aside from turning the fans on earlier and throwing in a few degrees of timing(which the LS1 doesn't need really).

[Icemansghost]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://fbody.beater.org/1992z28pic3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://fbody.beater.org/&h=480&w=640&sz=89&hl=en&start=56&um=1&tbnid=zyiieH5oi2ubUM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1992%2Bz28%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%2 6svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
Thats what my camaro looked like before I totaled it.

[Mike]

ill race if tim loses, its only a bolt on trans am with a slipping clutch

[98tadriver]

I'm sorry but tim's car isn't off the show room floor, and it's still a camaro no offense but they didn't build corvette's to get beat by stock camaro's. The only way tim will beat me is if I let him. I'm confident my Corvette will win! Hey tim lets see loser buys the other Ruby Tuesday's. I feel like having a steak. Medium rare Hahahahahahahahahaha

none taken, i wish i lived closer so i could go see this race and maybe make a few passes myself! somebody please get this on video. you 2 should rig up some onboard cameras too; this we can hear what you 2 say!!

[JerzLT1]

umm, the seats are approximately 10inches apart, how important is dual zone climate control at that point? does a magical wall pop out and keep your air away from the passengers air?
no matter how many way adjustable seats are, i don't ever move mine. so i will put that in the useless column as well.
HUD, who needs it. if you are going so fast that you can't afford to look down, you don't need to check if you are exceeding the speed limit.
a trip to NC on a tank of gas, so you get high 20's mpg on the hgihway, oh wait, the camaro does too. file that under whoopity friggin doo. i also don't see why you wuld think gas mileage is the primary concern of anyone buying a V8 to drive everyday. if i cared about mileage above all else, i would gt an aveo, they get like 37 on the highway
i don't know what was wrong with your 97, but you shoudl have had it looked at, was that the one that you blew up the rear in and bought the 18k vette instead of fixing the rear under warranty?
looks? i think the C5 and C6 vettes look like european turds. i haven't liked the styling of any vettes past the mid 70's, and even many of the 70's model years i coudl do without. looks are individual taste, so that doesn't account for much either way anyhow.

so far i am not seeing any real advantages to your vette, and certainly none that would ever convince me that it is worth double what my car is.

all those things mean to me is weight that should be taken out of the car lol

[Frosty]

umm, the seats are approximately 10inches apart, how important is dual zone climate control at that point? does a magical wall pop out and keep your air away from the passengers air?
no matter how many way adjustable seats are, i don't ever move mine. so i will put that in the useless column as well.
HUD, who needs it. if you are going so fast that you can't afford to look down, you don't need to check if you are exceeding the speed limit.
a trip to NC on a tank of gas, so you get high 20's mpg on the hgihway, oh wait, the camaro does too. file that under whoopity friggin doo. i also don't see why you wuld think gas mileage is the primary concern of anyone buying a V8 to drive everyday. if i cared about mileage above all else, i would gt an aveo, they get like 37 on the highway
i don't know what was wrong with your 97, but you shoudl have had it looked at, was that the one that you blew up the rear in and bought the 18k vette instead of fixing the rear under warranty?
looks? i think the C5 and C6 vettes look like european turds. i haven't liked the styling of any vettes past the mid 70's, and even many of the 70's model years i coudl do without. looks are individual taste, so that doesn't account for much either way anyhow.

so far i am not seeing any real advantages to your vette, and certainly none that would ever convince me that it is worth double what my car is.

Yet you completely ignore the fact the build quality is above and beyond that of a Fbody :shrug: Maybe you don't need the dual climate control, or the memory package or the HUD but a lot of people do. It's those options that make the vette "superior" in the eyes of some. I don't NEED those options but it's nice to have(I still wish 98's came with the HUD). The vette isn't just a race car, it's cruise car, a status car. It's placed on a higher level than Fbody's are(right or wrong).

If you only have racing in mind then the fbody is the right choice, if you're looking for something nicer that's also faster then the vette is your way to go. It's not always about 1/4 times.

[Frosty]

On a side note, who the hell goes to Ruby Tuesday's for a f'in steak?

Texas Roadhouse, Ruth's Chris or even the Library(for you south jersey people).

Amateur steak lover. :D

[Icemansghost]

Im buying the hud package to add to my 98.. Its an easy upgrade.

[BonzoHansen]

On a side note, who the hell goes to Ruby Tuesday's for a f'in steak?

Texas Roadhouse, Ruth's Chris or even the Library(for you south jersey people).

Amateur steak lover. :D

Now you're talking....:nod:

[Icemansghost]

I said ruby's because its next to work! and it's not that bad. I prefer Texas Roadhouse.

[jims69camaro]

Yet you completely ignore the fact the build quality is above and beyond that of a Fbody :shrug: Maybe you don't need the dual climate control, or the memory package or the HUD but a lot of people do. It's those options that make the vette "superior" in the eyes of some. I don't NEED those options but it's nice to have(I still wish 98's came with the HUD). The vette isn't just a race car, it's cruise car, a status car. It's placed on a higher level than Fbody's are(right or wrong).

If you only have racing in mind then the fbody is the right choice, if you're looking for something nicer that's also faster then the vette is your way to go. It's not always about 1/4 times.

what a freakin snob you've become. buy another thirdgen and plan a v6 turbo for it, will ya? bring yo *** back down to earth... even if all that you said is true. :D

[Icemansghost]

Who said corvette owners are snobs!

The ultimate in mullet mobile, the Chevy Camaro Iroc-Z. Usually comes with T-Tops which are good for messing up mullets. Offered with a dog slow 350, or an even slower 305. Once stood for "Italian Retard Out CruZing", but times have changed.

Dude...check out the mullet man in the Iroc-Z!

[Mike]

dude stfu he was joking with his friend

[Icemansghost]

Did I hit a nerve! I'm so sorry please direct your attention to url:http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=2026 Please fill it out, it may help you.

[Mike]

lol, didnt hit any nerves here, maybe someone hit a nerve with you and your 425hp claims

[NJSPEEDER]

frosty, c5 and c6 vettes have way more service bulletins than 4th gens. look it up dude. eveyrthing from wiring problems, random rattles, to roofs flying off.
neither are candidates for the best built cars in the world, but if you think the vette is far better built you are mistaken.

[Frosty]

Tim, I don't have a single rattle my in C5. I've never had a wiring issue nor has my car EVER been in for anything more than routine stuff(I have all of the service record).

You going to site a few roofs flying off due to some faulty third party adhesive, c'mon man.

I've owned both cars..I miss my 4thgen A TON..the car was sharp looking and was pretty quick but like I said, the vette is built a ton better by the feel of the ride, the interior and just everything about it.

Notice I didn't say I liked it better ;)

[Frosty]

what a freakin snob you've become. buy another thirdgen and plan a v6 turbo for it, will ya? bring yo *** back down to earth... even if all that you said is true. :D

hahahahaha

[bad64chevelle]

Who said corvette owners are snobs!

The ultimate in mullet mobile, the Chevy Camaro Iroc-Z. Usually comes with T-Tops which are good for messing up mullets. Offered with a dog slow 350, or an even slower 305. Once stood for "Italian Retard Out CruZing", but times have changed.

Dude...check out the mullet man in the Iroc-Z!

Not all, but alot...there is one incident that happened to me on the way home from the Duke Island meet in 2006 that has me scarred for life :lol:

[Frosty]

Ugghhh, the vette better not lose lol

[Mike]

unfortunately for the vette, the owner seems like its gonna lose

[Frosty]

:lol:

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Who said corvette owners are snobs!

The ultimate in mullet mobile, the Chevy Camaro Iroc-Z. Usually comes with T-Tops which are good for messing up mullets. Offered with a dog slow 350, or an even slower 305. Once stood for "Italian Retard Out CruZing", but times have changed.

Dude...check out the mullet man in the Iroc-Z!

Wait a second, I have a an IROC with t-tops and a 350.. Wanna race?

[Icemansghost]

I just priced out a pair of street slicks...Ill pass on them for now, plus I dont want my output shafts blowing apart! look at this write up. If your going to PLAY,,,unfortunately,,,your going to have to PAY! This is centered around just putting slicks on my car, and higher hp.

C5 and even C6 have issues with wheel hop. If you have uncontrolled wheel hop, and continue to allow it to occur, your going to break parts in the drive train. Even if you control wheel hop, high HP and better traction stresses the C5 and or C6 drive train and things break!

The first things to go are the diff output shafts. Yes they make hardened output shafts that will eliminate that issue. Once that is eliminated, the Diff case will most likely split. DTE makes a special brace to help eliminate that issue. (DTE BRACE) Then the tranny out put shaft will break. Starting with the Diff output shafts, as you go UP in HP/TQ, you will need to get STRONGER in the other things listed.

[WildBillyT]

I just priced out a pair of street slicks...Ill pass on them for now, plus I dont want my output shafts blowing apart! look at this write up. If your going to PLAY,,,unfortunately,,,your going to have to PAY! This is centered around just putting slicks on my car, and higher hp.

C5 and even C6 have issues with wheel hop. If you have uncontrolled wheel hop, and continue to allow it to occur, your going to break parts in the drive train. Even if you control wheel hop, high HP and better traction stresses the C5 and or C6 drive train and things break!

The first things to go are the diff output shafts. Yes they make hardened output shafts that will eliminate that issue. Once that is eliminated, the Diff case will most likely split. DTE makes a special brace to help eliminate that issue. (DTE BRACE) Then the tranny out put shaft will break. Starting with the Diff output shafts, as you go UP in HP/TQ, you will need to get STRONGER in the other things listed.

Wheel hop has always been an issue with IRS in Corvettes. Big block C3's have a real nasty problem with it.

[Mike]

wheelhop is a problem in MOST irs setups on the dragstrip......and in most liveaxle cars with screwed up setups too

[radialtireking]

Wait a second, I have a an IROC with t-tops and a 350.. Wanna race?

:shock:

[baddest434]

Wait a second, I have a an IROC with t-tops and a 350.. Wanna race?

anytime :wink: although i know you were'nt talking to me :lol:

[Icemansghost]

I wasnt the first to make fun of an IROC

[NJSPEEDER]

awwww, the guy who is compensating for "short comings" is trying to defend his position making fun of other cars. one question gary, aren't you a little young for a mid life crisis car?

[Firebird67dude]

I voted for Tim in the poll cuz I actually know him. He knows his stuff. Is this race a full out race or bracket racing?

[Mike]

they are going to be racing heads up.

[Tru2Chevy]

Is this race a full out race or bracket racing?

First one through the traps without a red light wins

- Justin

[Icemansghost]

Why wait till i'm 50, I wanted it now! Plus my 97 M6 took a crap, So I improved a bit.

[Mike]

the trailblazer will be there too running 13s just like the other 2 cars in this convo

[baddest434]

the trailblazer will be there too running 13s just like the other 2 cars in this convo

:rofl: give them hell mike:rofl:
how embarassing would it be to lose in a vette to a trailblazer.:wink:

[NJSPEEDER]

Why wait till i'm 50, I wanted it now! Plus my 97 M6 took a crap, So I improved a bit.

heck of an improvement you got there, so worried about having all your mods and seeing if you can get race tires for it to take on my little stocker. doesn't sound like your "improved" ride inspires much confidence in ya.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

434 we can do a run if you want.. One thing is that it is gonna be street style, once both bulbs are lit, you chase you race...

[ar0ck]

What time is this shin dig happening?

[baddest434]

434 we can do a run if you want.. One thing is that it is gonna be street style, once both bulbs are lit, you chase you race...

no problem JS this is my ride i'll be bringing

http://www.fquick.com/videos/7_77___174/574

lol

[JSPERFORMANCE]

lol! hey whatever I just need to get a run off! My lights are starting to suck..

[Tru2Chevy]

Ok, first passes for both have been completed:

They can't run heads up, because Gary doesn't have a helmet, and E-town won't give rentals if you're running under a 14.0.

Tims first pass (T/C on by mistake) = 2.6 60' 14.3 @ 103
Garys first pass (T/C on intentionally) = 2.55 60' 14.55 @ 101

Tim just dropped the air pressure in the rear tires, turned off the T/C, and is back in the lanes.

Update soon.....

- Justin

[JSPERFORMANCE]

So someone go give the vette guy a helmet!! No more BS race excuses!!

[Tru2Chevy]

So someone go give the vette guy a helmet!! No more BS race excuses!!

They are sharing cbrrmike's NJFBOA, MMS, LLc, lol helmet. They are both making passes, just not heads up.

- Justin

[JSPERFORMANCE]

go buy a helmet and line those guys up!!!!!! God dammit how hard is it to get 2 cars down 1 track at the same time?

[BonzoHansen]

They are sharing cbrrmike's NJFBOA, MMS, LLc, lol helmet. They are both making passes, just not heads up.

- Justin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/SIBLY/Emos/MMS_Sign.jpg

[WayFast84]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/SIBLY/Emos/MMS_Sign.jpg

Nice smiley :rofl:

[Tru2Chevy]

Tim's second pass:

Rear tire pressure dropped from 40 psi to 30 psi

2.362 60' 13.751 @ 105.87

He bogged off the line again, and soft-shifted it to avoid hurting the clutch and missing a gear again.

- Justin

[trashman01]

Tim's second pass:

Rear tire pressure dropped from 40 psi to 30 psi

2.362 60' 13.751 @ 105.87

He bogged off the line again, and soft-shifted it to avoid hurting the clutch and missing a gear again.

- Justin

if you didnt break anything, you didnt run it hard enough. hell when i was at e-town i took out 3rd gear and the tranny mount in the same pass, then drove home(147miles):rofl:

[12secondv6]

So, whats the slow vette running?

Is it still stuck in the 14's????

:rofl: :rofl:

[Tru2Chevy]

So, whats the slow vette running?

Is it still stuck in the 14's????

:rofl: :rofl:

No 2nd time for Gary yet.....

- Justin

[12secondv6]

No 2nd time for Gary yet.....

- Justin

Damn..... it's THAT slow????? :rofl:

[Mike]

wow i called this 2 pages ago

[baddest434]

Damn..... it's THAT slow????? :rofl:

it's e-town what would you expect

[12secondv6]

it's e-town what would you expect

Doh.... I meant the vette was that slow ;)

[Tru2Chevy]

Well, Tim is done for the night. They won't let him run anymore since he's got a Loudmouth.

- Justin

[Tru2Chevy]

Gary's second pass:

14.1 @ 101

Tim is going to make a pass in the vette now to see if he can get the 425 hp beast into the 13's :lol:

- Justin

[12secondv6]

Holy crap!!!!!

Driver SUCKS!!!!

My V6 N/A would open a can of major whoop @ss on that vette :)

[Mike]

tim went 13.99x in the vette

[Mike]

that means there is going to be a trailblazer ss vs. corvette race setup in the next couple weeks

[baddest434]

"By the way I'm Gary. I drive a 1998 Corvette" and i got pwned by tim.:lol:

[12secondv6]

"By the way I'm Gary. I drive a 1998 Corvette" and i got pwned by tim.:lol:
:rofl: :rofl:

[Tru2Chevy]

Yup, Tim's pass in the Vette was 13.997 @ 101.5

- Justin

[Frosty]

Wow....the way both of these schmucks talked I thought they could drive...

Wow...Tim...c'mon man...I thought you were a God at driving anything with 4 wheels ;)

I can understand a bad ET due to driver error but only a 101 trap out of the vette? ****....I know E-town blows but damn...that's freakin horrible :(

[12secondv6]

I think it is decently hot/ humid out tonight.

The mph, for the vette considering its mods, are kinda on the low side.

The camaro was decent.

Is this tim's first manual car? I only remember him at the track w/ an auto??

What was the d/s tonight?

[Tru2Chevy]

Wow....the way both of these schmucks talked I thought they could drive...

Wow...Tim...c'mon man...I thought you were a God at driving anything with 4 wheels ;)

I can understand a bad ET due to driver error but only a 101 trap out of the vette? ****....I know E-town blows but damn...that's freakin horrible :(

Eh....He squeezed almost 106 out of his camaro with less mods. I think that vette has serious issues (besides !driver mod).

- Justin

[Frosty]

The vette has some big time issues if it's only trapping with those mods...hell he's more modded than I am and I'm trapping at 107-108

[Icemansghost]

I don't know what happened a stock z06 ran 13.45 today, who knows. My car has a fresh tune up and is in good driving shape for 90,000 miles.

[Mike]

nothing "happened" it was the drivers

[JSPERFORMANCE]

New club slogan:

NJFBOA "we talk the talk but aint nobody walkin"

[Mike]

Buoniconti81 will you be able to go to the track again next wednedsday night?

[NJSPEEDER]

as expected, me ET's were all about the driver being rusty. jsut a tick under 106 trap speed, there is a 12 in it, the driver jsut has to launch the thing and hit the shifts.
gary's car felt weird when i drove it. could be a bit more aggressive at launch, seems like the power comes on late. like it is flat and then suddenly starts to wake up in time to shift. dunno what that is all about.

james, it has easily been 10 years since i dragged raced a manual car. i have owned a few since, but none that i raced other than leaving toll booths. lol

gary forgot to mention that i went quicker than him in his own car. lol

i will be heading back to the track soon enough. felt great to get back there again, i would liek to make a habit of it.

btw, stock clutch is a mess. lol

[Icemansghost]

I need a z06 rear end and a stall speed! also a 1s6 intake and some nice heads and a cam! by next racing season ill be ready. I need to talk to js performace a bit since he lives around the corner from me.

[Savage_Messiah]

Yet you completely ignore the fact the build quality is above and beyond that of a Fbody :shrug: Maybe you don't need the dual climate control, or the memory package or the HUD but a lot of people do. It's those options that make the vette "superior" in the eyes of some. I don't NEED those options but it's nice to have(I still wish 98's came with the HUD). The vette isn't just a race car, it's cruise car, a status car. It's placed on a higher level than Fbody's are(right or wrong).

If you only have racing in mind then the fbody is the right choice, if you're looking for something nicer that's also faster then the vette is your way to go. It's not always about 1/4 times.


Nice, you'e not only compensating for your own erhm... shortcomings, but for those of all other vette owners :rofl:


What's that abotu the faster part now??? And the

Tim...unless Gary tards out at the line you're so toast it's not even funny.

It's Gary's race to lose...and I'm not saying that because I'm a vette owner, I'm saying that because your cars are close when stock and he has more mods than you. My vette the way it sits would run faster than your SS and Gary has more mods than I do.


So your car is, by ricer comparison, slower than his? And who has an SS???







/instigation :mrgreen:

[Tru2Chevy]

I need a z06 rear end and a stall speed! also a 1s6 intake and some nice heads and a cam! by next racing season ill be ready. I need to talk to js performace a bit since he lives around the corner from me.

I think you need to figure out what's wrong with your car before you think about any more mods.

I think taking it to JS Performance now is prolly a good idea. Don't wait till next season.....

- Justin

[Frosty]

So your car is, by ricer comparison, slower than his? And who has an SS???







/instigation :mrgreen:

lol, huh? I just woke up and I still can't comprehend lol

[Frosty]

I think you need to figure out what's wrong with your car before you think about any more mods.

I think taking it to JS Performance now is prolly a good idea. Don't wait till next season.....

- Justin

What he said.

ET is one thing but to only trap at 101 isn't good. I know it's E-town(God I hate that track) and it was humid last night but still, all things considering you still should have been around 104-105

[Mike]

there probably isnt anything wrong with his car.

the full exhaust without a tune is hurting low end power. and without a tq converter to launch a little higher its launching right in that low end that hes losing power..........the 101 mph is the car trying to fix on the top end what it lost down low............

id bet with a tune, a converter, and some seat time he can easily gain 5-10 mph



also did 98s have tq management that needs to get tuned out?

[JL8Jeff]

Well, Tim is done for the night. They won't let him run anymore since he's got a Loudmouth.

- Justin

Stupid Loudmouth exhaust. :wink: Why do people put these on cars other than to make noise?

[mtnhopper1]

If Tim Wins I will wear a pink tight shirt to work...


So what's up with this?

[NJSPEEDER]

frosty, i didn't make any claims about my driving ability or how fas/slow i was gonna run. i said it was gary's race to lose as i believed he had the faster car and i left it at that
i will have to get the videos off the camera and hosted up for everyone to laugh at.....er...ummm... i mean.... admire! lol

[ar0ck]

Here are some pics:

Tims best run:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k200/doctormikescott/tim.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k200/doctormikescott/timslastrun.jpg

Garys best run:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k200/doctormikescott/IMG_3499.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k200/doctormikescott/IMG_3501.jpg

And a nice picture of Tims car:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k200/doctormikescott/IMG_3444.jpg

[Frosty]

there probably isnt anything wrong with his car.

the full exhaust without a tune is hurting low end power. and without a tq converter to launch a little higher its launching right in that low end that hes losing power..........the 101 mph is the car trying to fix on the top end what it lost down low............

id bet with a tune, a converter, and some seat time he can easily gain 5-10 mph



also did 98s have tq management that needs to get tuned out?


Yeah the 98's have the TM. I still stand by my statement, I'm trapping 106-108 and he's more modded than I am.

[NJSPEEDER]

he just needs a tune. no big deal. he has the mods, but the computer isn't supporting them yet. it's not a big deal, we talked last night about him getting a cheap lap top and HPTuners soon.
once he has that sorted out i am sure he will have trap speeds that you find more satisfying frothy. :p

[NJSPEEDER]

74th on the timeslips list!!! lol

[Frosty]

Blow me Tim :lol:

[Icemansghost]

Ill go to maple grove in a few months... I gotta dig into my car to see whats wrong.

[Icemansghost]

The picture states I did 14.55 as my best, my second run was a 14.107 at 101.46

[NJSPEEDER]

Ill go to maple grove in a few months... I gotta dig into my car to see whats wrong.


all that is wrong with your car is you need a good tune. go to www.HPTuners.com to buy the software and see what the minimum requirements are, then go to ebay and pick up a cheap laptop.
you will be turning the trap speeds that we all thought you should be in no time. then you jsut have to practice launches and you will be set.

[Icemansghost]

R/T= .298, 60'= 2.1888, 330= 6.038, 1/8= 9.153, mph= 79.42, 1000= 11.788, 1/4= 13.997 mph= 101.51. This was my car's best so far. Mapple Grove will be better in NOV.

[jims69camaro]

Ugghhh, the vette better not lose lol

:willy:

[jims69camaro]

dude stfu he was joking with his friend

thank you. not everyone knows tony is one of my friends. they (most of the time) think i am picking on him. he knows he's cool, tho, even though his judgement hasn't always been 100% (who of us has?) :p

[Icemansghost]

Im getting the z06 rear carrier and a 1700 stall speed, from gm part direct and finally AFR 205 high velocity heads and a mild cam. Dont worry Ill be up the on the track polls sooner then you guys think.

[j0n]

Im getting the z06 rear carrier and a 1700 stall speed, from gm part direct and finally AFR 205 high velocity heads and a mild cam. Dont worry Ill be up the on the track polls sooner then you guys think.

you can have the most expensive parts in the world and still lose to a stock z28 if you dont get a good tune

[bad64chevelle]

I believe you will want a little more stall speed than that...

[j0n]

Do yourself a favor Buoniconti... click this: http://ls1tech.com/forums/

Spend a week reading as much as you can...THEN come back here

[Icemansghost]

I dont wanna add a tranny cooler, and it is a car i still like to drive daily

[WildBillyT]

Get your existing combination sorted out first- before you spend another dime! Something isn't right.

[j0n]

I dont wanna add a tranny cooler, and it is a car i still like to drive daily

a tranny cooler is a great addition to any performance car with an automatic transmission, regardless of the converter...and doesnt effect daily driving in the least

[Jersey_TA]

Yeah the 98's have the TM. I still stand by my statement, I'm trapping 106-108 and he's more modded than I am.

WERD I trapped 107 in good air with my 04. I went to E-town for the corvette challenge last year when it was in the 80s and still ran a 13.6 and I was stock. Took the car to atco in good air and bam....12.92 after I did the zip-tie free mod. E-town just sucks period. You guys need to come down to atco for the definitive answer....seriously.

[Frosty]

I dont wanna add a tranny cooler, and it is a car i still like to drive daily

Do some research before throwing $$ at the car. A converter that low is a total waste and won't do a thing besides burn a hole in your pocket. A good quality converter, even at a 3000-3200 stall speed will feel damn near like stock. Just don't cheap out on it or else you'll regret it.

[NJSPEEDER]

rematch scheduled, details to follow. we will both be sorting out our junk and getting some practice before the next one and it will be real heads up this time. no BS comparing timeslips

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Damm I out 60'd your cars with my stock explorer on my first run ever haha. of course AWD v6 > V8 RWD. 2.52 :P

[Mike]

i wanna run the vette in the trailblazer.......gary you scared of a big ole truck?

[Icemansghost]

I wont be in NOV

[Icemansghost]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97-04-Corvette-Rear-Carrier-Assembly-Complete-3-42_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33731QQihZ020QQitemZ 300155144949QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
This is what im looking at right now

[Mike]

well lose to my truck now, and my car in november then.

[Savage_Messiah]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97-04-Corvette-Rear-Carrier-Assembly-Complete-3-42_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33731QQihZ020QQitemZ 300155144949QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
This is what im looking at right now

hahahahahah 3.42s?? man up and get some real gears

[NJSPEEDER]

only if you wanna man up and give him the about $2k that it costs to do gears in those whacky rears the C5's and C6's got. 3.42 is the best you are gonna do without breaking the bank.
btw, when is your junk going to be at the track again?

[Mike]

why is he ignoring me.

race my truck now, and my car when you get some more mods

[Frosty]

Gary, stop trying to throw $$ at the car. Get what you have now running at optimum performance. You need a tune, maybe a converter. I assume you have 3.15's? 3.42 isn't worth the $$.

Do a converter and a tune and see how much it wakes the car up. Throwing $$ at it will only make you broke.

[Tru2Chevy]

No, he's got 2.73s.....

- Justin

[Icemansghost]

I went over my car the day after the race my rear say's 2.73 I was told it had 3.15's.....so whatever! I didnt buy that one. Im buying it brand new from gmpartsdirect.com for 300 more and a year warranty.. I want gears, my car will be tuned dont worry!

[Mike]

why is he ignoring me.

race my truck now, and my car when you get some more mods

:cry:

[Icemansghost]

my car's got an idiot light on... nO way, plus i'm not ready to show my face untill i 'm ready! why show up when you know my times....racing is supposed to be unpredicted who wins!

[Savage_Messiah]

my car's got an idiot light on... nO way, plus i'm not ready to show my face untill i 'm ready! why show up when you know my times....racing is supposed to be unpredicted who wins!

Yeah, like how you raced tim since you knew you'd win?? :lol:

[Jersey_TA]

only if you wanna man up and give him the about $2k that it costs to do gears in those whacky rears the C5's and C6's got. 3.42 is the best you are gonna do without breaking the bank.
btw, when is your junk going to be at the track again?

A gear swap at ECS is $1200 out the door

[Icemansghost]

A gear swap at ECS is $1200 out the door

who is ecs????

[j0n]

east coast supercharging

[Mike]

so let it be known, he is afraid to race my stock trailblazer.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

I will race your stock trailblazer...

Got $$$$???

Its only a stock third gen 5 speed firebird..

[Mike]

nah im broke. and i dont think you own a 14 second car lol

[Icemansghost]

Not bad thanks for letting me know about these guys:mrgreen:

[Jersey_TA]

Not bad thanks for letting me know about these guys:mrgreen:

I've never been there, which is funny since they are less than 5 miles from my house LOL. you're welcome.

[NJSPEEDER]

hopefully they will be enough help for him to put up a more respectable showing for the rematch :)

[1_Hot_SOM_WS6]

Yeah, like how you raced tim since you knew you'd win?? :lol:

:rofl: ...I wanna come out for the re-match....this should be interesting

[NJSPEEDER]

we will see what happens, gary has a better budget than me and a car that should be quicker in the first place.
i will work on my junker and see if my the driver can get his head far enough away from his rectum long enough to launch the thing properly in the rematch.

[Icemansghost]

Timmmy I Havent forgot about you!

I have installed since this post my 3.42, and my underdrive pulleys... I did the slp pulleys because my old pulleys were squealing so I decided to upgrade... That was a JOB! I had to remove my rack and pinnon to snake out the crank pulley and the lower tensioner pulley... Not that it was hard to remove it, just didnt expect to run into that much.... Just did that job last week.

[Tru2Chevy]

Have you installed the driver mod yet? :mrgreen:

Let us know when you get back to the track - anxious to see what some mods and a little more seat time will get you.

- Justin

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Dosen't matter, Tim will win.

JSP POWER!!!

[Mike]

indeedy

[NJSPEEDER]

Holy thread from the past Batman!!

I was just actually talking to CBRRMike today about getting back to the track for a little practice. Got a date to get out and shake it down picked out in early May, then it's on like Donkey Kong!!

[Frosty]

I don't see the outcome changing without a different driver. The 3.42's will help, the pulleys won't do much. Have you changed anything else since then? A tune will REALLY wake the car up...

I can't wait to get to the track but I'm too scared to watch my high mileage motor puke out a rod, lol.

[Icemansghost]

A tune, Yea I do have to get that done! I really wanted to rebuild the engine before I did that. The engine rebuild will be done in june or july.... Ill be ready by august!

I'm putting ls6 heads and crank in this car, with dished pistons. Modding her a bit for the twin turbo Ill put on her next year. Get ready timmy

hell I should come out soon got my 68 camaro rolling... Looks like the beast from better off dead....

[deadtrend1]

hell I should come out soon got my 68 camaro rolling... Looks like the beast from better off dead....

I would just worry about the one car you have with the extreme plans

[Mike]

I'm putting ls6 heads and crank in this car, with dished pistons. Modding her a bit for the twin turbo Ill put on her next year. Get ready timmy

should be a fun waste of a few bucks

[ar0ck]

Ill be there to take pictures of the ownage.

[NJSPEEDER]

By June or July you are gonna need more than just a fresh bottom end in that turd buddy. If not, the side action will be all about how much you get covered by. :rofl:

[Icemansghost]

HAHA, Take your pic buddy... I got a 2010 camaro ss, or my modded vett.... I havent forgot about you!:lol:

[BonzoHansen]

6 months later. Great work. :rolleyes: :lol:

[BigRocsFirebird]

ahah this thread again

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I think the only call out that actually went through on this board was my truck vs. MC73nova's truck....

[LTb1ow]

Nope, I called out BigAl, and his car broke on the track.

[Frosty]

6 months later. Great work. :rolleyes: :lol:

Yup, and both cars will still be in the 13's. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[98tadriver]

holy dead thread revival batman!

[gotmudnj]

i just started reading this and let me get this straight...a vett adding all these mods and gears and all this talk and still lost to a z...and then goes out and spends more money to make it go faster? for a car thats worth 18 grand doesnt seem to be showing it...make all the looks and stylish parts but if i spent 18 grand on a car i hope that thing would do 12s daily stock...but thats just me...

[Jersey_TA]

i just started reading this and let me get this straight...a vett adding all these mods and gears and all this talk and still lost to a z...and then goes out and spends more money to make it go faster? for a car thats worth 18 grand doesnt seem to be showing it...make all the looks and stylish parts but if i spent 18 grand on a car i hope that thing would do 12s daily stock...but thats just me...

Hmmm mine went 12.9 stock :-?

[Tru2Chevy]

i just started reading this and let me get this straight...a vett adding all these mods and gears and all this talk and still lost to a z...and then goes out and spends more money to make it go faster? for a car thats worth 18 grand doesnt seem to be showing it...make all the looks and stylish parts but if i spent 18 grand on a car i hope that thing would do 12s daily stock...but thats just me...

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showpost.php?p=381572&postcount=11

This is how they stood when the race occurred. Keep in mind that 'vette had 2.73s and a stock converter.

- Justin

[Jersey_TA]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showpost.php?p=381572&postcount=11

This is how they stood when the race occurred. Keep in mind that 'vette had 2.73s and a stock converter.

- Justin

ah ok. Oh, that and the stock ls1 intake. def not hitting 12s with that combo

[sweetbmxrider]

i saw timmay doin the 1320