View Full Version : A-Load Opts Out...and back in????
BonzoHansen
10-28-2007, 10:12 PM
...according to SI, AP and ESPN, A-Load has decided to opt out of his contract. Bye, jackhole.
"Boras said during a telephone interview Rodriguez made his choice because he was uncertain whether Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte would return to the Yankees.
"Alex's decision was one based on not knowing what his closer, his catcher and one of his statured pitchers was going to do," Boras said. "He really didn't want to make any decisions until he knew what they were going.""
What a load of crap. Nice excuse. He's a phony.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AiiR2zDT5LwysrY_sMfpiYkRvLYF?slug=ap-yankees-rodriguez&prov=ap&type=lgns
Tru2Chevy
10-28-2007, 10:26 PM
...and so begins the exodus. (While Boston is about to sweep the World Series :D )
- Justin
SteveR
10-28-2007, 10:37 PM
Yup, A-Rod's gone. I don't blame him though. Both the team and the fans have treated him like crap for four years. Sure, they all chanted MVP for a good portion of the year, but they've boo'd him more than they've cheered him. It sucks that both he and Torre are gone, but don't be mad at them, be mad that Steinbrenner and Cashman are staying.
unstable bob gable
10-29-2007, 12:51 AM
Pay-rod FTL! :-x
maroman88
10-29-2007, 07:42 AM
i agree with wat the owners said, if he doesnt wanna be a yankee then we dont want him and wont fight to keep him.
BonzoHansen
10-29-2007, 09:11 AM
The timing of his announcement, making this decision before they even talked to the Yanks, and making the decision public before they told the Yanks was all bush league. His reasoning about the status of the other players is phony. His talk all season about liking playing in NY and having a job to finish is bogus. Just say you want maximum cash. Damn, isn’t anyone honest anymore??
Man, I heard Gammons basically hammer him last night. It was great. Please I hope the Sox sign him. Please………………
alamantia
10-29-2007, 09:23 AM
every sports team goes through cycles, its the yankees turn to suck for a few years, oh well
BonzoHansen
10-29-2007, 12:09 PM
http://64.246.64.33/default.asp?c=wfan&page=mlb/misc/rounding_third.htm
"But instead, the focus of the baseball world is on the biggest phony in all of sports - Alex Rodriguez. "
"But, as Gammons said last night it is "Buyer Beware" with him. There is a reason he has never played in a World Series"
Ugh.
BonzoHansen
10-29-2007, 01:52 PM
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/forumdisplay.php4?f=14
According to the report, the Yankees were never able to present the offer. Through Boras, Rodriguez -- who had said numerous times during the course of the season that he "loves" New York and wants to stay -- turned down a request to meet with club officials.
"It's clear he didn't want to be a Yankee," Hank Steinbrenner told the Daily News. "He doesn't understand the privilege of being a Yankee on a team where the owners are willing to pay $200 million to put a winning product on the field.
"I don't want anybody on my team that doesn't want to be a Yankee."
Also, Mattingly says he will not return to the Yanks in 2008.
NJSPEEDER
10-29-2007, 03:41 PM
anyone who has followed the yankees for more than a week knows that a-rod has been struggling in the new york market. not always on the field, but certainly emotionally. the pressure gets to the guy and he falls apart a few times a season.
i would say it is better for him and the yanks in the long run that things went this way. a-rod needs to get back to a middle market team with no realistic shot at a world series, that is where he had his greatest successes and where he didn't live on the brink of day to day melt downs.
SteveR
10-29-2007, 09:29 PM
The front office has been telling him to get the f- out of NY since '05. The fans have been bashing and booing him since 04. Now after the way they have treated Bernie Williams, now Joe Torre, it's Steinbrenner and Cashman that are the enemies of the Yankees, not A-Rod. He's been treated like crap for four years and like what Torre did, he's standing up for himself and telling them to stick it. To bash A-Rod is rediculous.
SteveR
10-29-2007, 09:30 PM
Oh, and they just said that they chose Gerardi as the next manager. Looks like he'll be the whipping boy to blame the next few years of failure on.
maroman88
10-29-2007, 11:18 PM
mattingly quit too
BonzoHansen
10-29-2007, 11:59 PM
The front office has been telling him to get the f- out of NY since '05. The fans have been bashing and booing him since 04. Now after the way they have treated Bernie Williams, now Joe Torre, it's Steinbrenner and Cashman that are the enemies of the Yankees, not A-Rod. He's been treated like crap for four years and like what Torre did, he's standing up for himself and telling them to stick it. To bash A-Rod is rediculous.
"The front office has been telling him to get the f- out of NY since '05." - what?? To me it appeared they were the only ones that did want him.
And oh, he got booed. Darn. He sucked in 2006. And you have to know people are going to expect a little more from you when you sign a $252M contract. Why was it $252 and not $250? Because that exactly doubled the 2nd biggest contract in sports, $126M for Kevin Garnett (I might have the wrong name). That is not coincidence, that was a demand from A-Rod & Boras. If you don't want the spotlight, don't make insane contract demands.
A-rod is a phony. If that is why he wants out of NY then he should shut up and say it. No, he hides behind crap like 'oh, I don't know who my teammates will be'. Of course, if he had even bothered to talk to the Yanks maybe he would have found out the plans. All year all I heard from him was how much he loves NY. ESPN just played a little collage of him saying it a number of times during the season. Bull. He is a phony. I hope he is home crying about all the people being mean to him right now. He certainly isn't standing up. He will never stand up. That is not his style. He is one of the most disingenuous people I have ever seen come through the Bronx, and that is saying something.
Do you not think the announcement made during game 4, w/o even telling the Yanks first wasn't bush league? Because every one else in BB does. Even the commissioner’s office said it. "We were very disappointed that Scott Boras would try to upstage our premier baseball event of the season with his announcement," Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer, said Monday in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "There was no reason to make an announcement last night other than to try to put his selfish interests and that of one individual player above the overall good of the game…”
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AvP7078tMUnU_Zn7SnjJvIMRvLYF?slug=ap-yankees-rodriguez&prov=ap&type=lgns
I’m not saying the guy isn’t a great player – he is. But he is a cancer in the clubhouse. Just wait to you hear the comments once he’s gone – it’s happened everywhere else he left. Players were happy to see him go. There is a reason he is moving on to his 4th team in 8 years. And for $30 million+ a year, I kind of think they could use that cash elsewhere and fill the void.
And bull on Bernie. So they didn't offer him a guaranteed contract. He was invited to camp. Torre told him to come to camp. Bernie didn't return anyone’s calls, even Torre's. He is equally guilty. Shed no tears for Bernabe. He was not an everyday player anymore and he was a very poor pinch hitter. I would not have guaranteed him a spot either.
Torre was treated unfairly, IMO. The Yanks showed no class with him. They showed the same lack of class as A-Rod is showing them. So in a way they are getting their just desserts there.
Yup, A-Rod's gone. I don't blame him though. Both the team and the fans have treated him like crap for four years. Sure, they all chanted MVP for a good portion of the year, but they've boo'd him more than they've cheered him. It sucks that both he and Torre are gone, but don't be mad at them, be mad that Steinbrenner and Cashman are staying.
I'm with this guy. I don't know how it is elsewhere, but NY fans aren't loyal to anyone unless they are winning games.
BonzoHansen
10-30-2007, 12:43 AM
I'm with this guy. I don't know how it is elsewhere, but NY fans aren't loyal to anyone unless they are winning games.
You should try Philly.
BonzoHansen
11-14-2007, 04:26 PM
Sounds like A-Load is opting back in...reports have him talking to the Yanks without Boras...
NJSPEEDER
11-14-2007, 08:29 PM
i am surprised he didn't go to LA with Torre. A-Rod loves th guy.
the yankees are doomed. hiring someone who loves to be the star of the show to manage the most decorated team in baseball history in the biggest media circus on the planet is a bad bad move. the ego wars are bad enough when all the millionare babies are on the field, add one in charge of the dug out and you have a formula for disaster.
SteveR
11-15-2007, 01:01 AM
Sounds like A-Load is opting back in...reports have him talking to the Yanks without Boras...
Without Boras? Jeez, A-Rod is really learning how to piss everyone off huh lol First the fans in Seattle, then Texas, then Boston, then NY, now possibly turning his back on one of the greatest agents in sports history.
BonzoHansen
11-15-2007, 08:01 AM
Maybe getting rid of Boras is a step in the road to redemption....
he asked "friends on the team" to set something up with the yanks, once the talks started boras is involved.... he just didnt let boras initiate them
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 09:55 AM
They should have just slammed the door on AROD. He doesnt deserve to be a Yankee!!
They should have just slammed the door on AROD. He doesnt deserve to be a Yankee!!
how about you validate your point?
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 12:20 PM
Whats To validate? Its so obvious in the papers. He didnt even wait till the world Series was over before mentioning he was opting out. His manager didnt do it on his own. He was told to do it or given permission too by AROD. If he really wanted to be a Yankee he should have waited to talk to the team owners then see his options. He is crawling back now because there is noone out there thats going to offer him that rediculous number he is asking for. He might not even get what he was making now. So I dont think he is worth all that hype, and definately he didnt perform what he is paid so much for. This year he did well, but what about the last 2 yrs. What happened in that last play off series. All these high priced players are costing us at the box office for decent seats.
Whats To validate? Its so obvious in the papers. He didnt even wait till the world Series was over before mentioning he was opting out. His manager didnt do it on his own. He was told to do it or given permission too by AROD. If he really wanted to be a Yankee he should have waited to talk to the team owners then see his options. He is crawling back now because there is noone out there thats going to offer him that rediculous number he is asking for. He might not even get what he was making now. So I dont think he is worth all that hype, and definately he didnt perform what he is paid so much for. This year he did well, but what about the last 2 yrs. What happened in that last play off series. All these high priced players are costing us at the box office for decent seats.
1. boras leaked it durring the world series
2. he said all along that even though he was opting out he wanted to stay a yankee, THEY YANKEES SAID THEY WOULDNT TALK TO HIM AND NOW THEY ARE........WHOS CRAWLING WHERE?
3. the new deal he is discussing with the yankees is MORE than he was making so i guess it wasnt that rediculious
4. so if arod hit the ball, everyone else would have come out of their slump and the pitching wouldnt have sucked in the playoffs?
5. last 2 years? meaning 05 and 06? he was leauge mvp in 05, had an off year in 06 and is mvp in 07........
6. do you honestly think that if everyone suddenly agreed to play for less, the owners would charge us any less to watch a game? thats absurd
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 01:11 PM
There is every kind of different information from the sports casters to the papers. Whats true and what isnt who the hell knows. The most obvious is he should have never opted out to begin with or allow that information to get out by his manager. If the manager did something he wasnt suppose to I am sure that is a breach of contract. I doubt the manager would put his commision on the line doing something stupid. So everything that went down I assume was at the approval of AROD. And its not like AROD didnt know the Yanks management would slack on there offer he just got greedy. Money wise I was talking about other teams. Noone out there was offering him what he wanted. If someone did he would not be back talking with the Yankees. Plain as day he said he went back to try and talk to the Yankees to stay in NY. So he is crawling back, but I think the Yankees should not be offering him a deal, but they are. Since I got out of the USMC in 2001 I have been buying the same seats at Yankee stadium. And those same seats have doubled since 2001. Why? these damn multimillion dollar unloyal players who play for the highest bidder. This isnt just with Arod its with the whole league. Players dont stay loyal to there team and Fans who support them. You obviously like this player, but loyalty suppose to be from the heart and not who has the highest payroll for him.
Savage_Messiah
11-15-2007, 01:31 PM
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im not a yankee fan, i just dont like people talking about things they dont know about, such as calling boras a manager, he is an AGENT he dosent manage arods life, he helps set up contracts.
and about prices doubling since 01, thats not just the yankees and not just because they spend money, if you were trying to sell a product (baseball games) and sold out no matter what you charged for seats, you would do the same thing no matter if the players got paid a lot or played for free.
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 02:58 PM
Agent or Manager He gets paid for any of ARODS dealings. Not just contracts something you might pick up in todays paper actually. Contracts for commercials, sponsers Etc!!!! HE gets paid for!!!And if your not a fan of the Yankees why in the hell you saying anything. Just want to start something you dont know about then I guess. And I have friends all over the U.S. and there tickets have not gone up nowhere near as us in NY have. So do your research before speaking.
(im not a yankee fan, i just dont like people talking about things they dont know about, such as calling boras a manager, he is an AGENT he dosent manage arods life, he helps set up contracts.)
Stick to your own team or whatever floats your boat.
no **** his agent get paid for **** he sets up, he also has a manager that gets paid for helping set up appearances, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON
any area that sells out seats to every game, and is a consistant playoff team will have similar price increases. and if price increases are solely due to players making too much, how come prices have gone up in basketball and football where they have salary caps for the teams?
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 03:31 PM
The Salary Caps were implemented because it was getting out of control with the rediculous salaries of all the players. And it was being passed on at the Box Offices and its to a point some families can no longer afford to go to any of these sport events anymore. Why you say again? SALARIES??? Everything revolves around the Salaries. Michael Jordan said it best when he said its a shame what the games have turned into too. Todays players get paid without even earning it 1st like he did. Micheal Jordan the best NBA player of all time retired and wasnt even the highest paid player in the NBA. Now thats an MVP and a real athlete. There is no more Loyalty or just the love of the game like it all started. Just a paycheck and I will play for you thats it.
like i said, if they all decided tomorrow to play for the leauge minimums, the ticket prices wouldnt change at all
and jordan retired from the wizards with an OWNERSHIP stake in the team, he was making more money than his contract said
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 03:52 PM
Those days are over they will never go back to those days. And Jordan didnt go back to play for money he went back for the LOVE of the game. There is a difference.
regardless of going back to those days or not, the owners greed outweighs the players greed or we would have never left those days, contracts got so high because owners were willing to outbid each other for players, now if those players werent making the money they are, the owners would STILL be charging an arm and a leg to watch them
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 03:57 PM
That I agree with, but not as bad as it is now. Its a fact of life everything just goes up in price, but these contracts are the biggest cause of that.
firehawk1120
11-15-2007, 04:49 PM
A-rod is either a two faced liar, or his agent is a dumbass. I thought he wasn't going to play for the yankees because they didn't offer him $350M to initiate talks? The Yankees told him to have fun getting that number from anyone. No one obviously wanted to step up to the plate. I've heard a $252M number for 10 years. $25M a year I don't know what he made the last few years but I thought it was a lot more.
Either way the bum can't hit for crap in the playoffs. Regardless of the crappy pitching if he gets on base or the person in front of him does and he can score them it changes things. He didn't do either. He's a great seasonal player but come playoff time BYE BYE.
firebirdcrazy
11-15-2007, 05:07 PM
My point exactly
he was getting 21 mil a year
firehawk1120
11-16-2007, 02:34 PM
well that might be more then he was making, but it's a far cry from the 350M his dumbas$ agent thought he could get from some other club. Either way I don't think he's worth it. Spend that loot on some pitching this way the avg age isn't like 40.
Hahahahah
SteveR
11-16-2007, 03:00 PM
about the Yankees and sell out games;
they are a little misleading. The team changed the rules regarding scalpers and ticket sale caps after 2005. It used to be you could only purchase 6 tickets for any one game to deter ticket scalpers and make it harder for them. Starting in 2006, they lifted that rule and made it so anyone could buy as many tickets as they wanted for any game. So what you had were scalpers going to ticketmaster and to the box office at the stadium and buying tickets in huge numbers. Another rule they changed that year was that game attendance was measured by tickets counted at the gates apon entrance. Now it's solely counted on ticket sales for that game. So what that now means is that if all 57,545 tickets are sold for one game, it's considered a sell out, NOT if all 57,545 tickets are counted at the gate. So the scalpers are allowed to buyout the games, sell the tickets off for a higher price since fans can't get a hold of tickets like they used to, and not have to worry about loosing some money on tickets not sold. This way the Yankees get all the money for selling out each game regardless of how many fans actually show up. And to make matters worse, the new Yankee stadium will have LESS seats than the one now. But they will be adding luxury boxes for corporate rich folks. This will lower available seats for an already high demand, thus allowing the Yankees to increase ticket prices again. Probably with the excuse that they need to make money back from paying for the new stadium, of which they paid for on their own, and refused money from MLB and the city, at a cost of 1 billion dollars.
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