random drunk driving check

[qwikz28]

i was pulled over yesterday night for no reason at all. cop said i was swerving (i wasn't but he has to give me a reason obviously) asked me if i drank at all, ran my license, and i was on my way within five minutes. it made me feel a little better about driving through that neighborhood that teh cops will stop random people like that to check for drunkards; especially since my gf and quite a few of my friends live there (east brunswick). anyways, what do you guys think about that? do you think its a good idea?

[Knipps]

not a bad thing, but were you really swerving?
if not it's :bs:

getting randomly pulled over to be hassled about nothing won't lead to anything positive IMO

[procamaroz28]

that sucks the eb cops are gay theyll piss u off for no reason they have nothing better to do and when the cop sais your swerving, dont take it, be like no i wasn't do you mind telling me why your wasteing my time right now

[1972LT1]

that sucks the eb cops are gay theyll piss u off for no reason they have nothing better to do and when the cop sais your swerving, dont take it, be like no i wasn't do you mind telling me why your wasteing my time right now

Ask the pig why he's harassing a law abiding citizen who only races at a track(Island,etown or Atco) and upkeeps his vehicle rather than pulling over one of those scofflaw imports!

[maroman88]

if you so much as touch the center lines, any line in the road seperating lanes, or a shoulder line, they can stop you.... not saying you did cuz i dont no the area or anything just an FYI. as for it being a good idea... DUH, with so many people driving drunk these days theres no reason a cop shouldnt bang someone for a dui eveyr night lol

[GP99GT]

well id say its a good thing, except the time i got pulled over after leaving ramapo at like 2am after walking all the way across campus in 10 degree weather...he was waiting right by the exit of the college, followed me for a bit and pulled me over. never gave me a reason, but he said my "car smelled like alcohol" - i had nothing to drink, and there had never even been alcohol in the car in my ownership of it. anyway he made me get back out of the car, freezing my sack off, doing sobriety tests on the side of the road...it was retarded. never once did he tell me why he pulled me over, he just told me to be careful because the roads get icy....

[79CamaroDiva]

i think its a good idea that time of night, especially in that area. As long as you're not drinking, you've got nothing to worry about. Most towns DUI checks aren't set up to be a random inspection or anything, its JUST for DUI's, if you're sober, you're fine.

[12secondv6]

If you have nothing to ide...... then you shouldn't worry

[procamaroz28]

If you have nothing to ide...... then you shouldn't worry

doesnt work like that why should cops be able harass any one for pretty much no reason theyr wasting time b/c mean while there probably is a drunk swerving and about to get into an accident but no the cop wants to be a fag and pull over someone for no real reason which they arent allowed to do

[ar0ck]

Say the Rutts in the road were causing your car to pull in certain direction.

I have no problem with being stopped for something like that as long as they don't look at my inspection sticker. Because other then that, I have nothing to hide with a clean record to prove it.

[IROCdan330]

...and then theres that one time when the drunk driver is doing nothing wrong but the cop decides to pull the guy over just to check, and gets another drunk driver off the road. I dont know why some people have it out for cops so bad, if youre respectful to them generally they will be respectful back.

I'm in agreement with alex.

[79T/A]

Most towns DUI checks aren't set up to be a random inspection or anything, its JUST for DUI's, if you're sober, you're fine.


I disagree a little. DWI CHECKPOINTS are money makers. The object, I'm told, is to pull over vehicles randomly. For example, every fifth or sixth car gets stopped and checked for DWI. HOWEVER, if, during a checkpoint, an officer spots the bad inspection sticker or no front plate or a headlight out, they're gonna stop the car and write a ticket for it. The administration (Police Chief) is being put under pressure by the town council to produce revenue; therefore, EVERYBODY under him is encouraged to write summonses at these checkpoints. It's the old poo rolls downhill theory. No, there are no quotas, but the cop who writes tickets advances in his/her career.

Otherwise, I'm with IROCDan. Be nice. Don't try to play lawyer on the side of the road. Because when you do, the cop writes a ticket. Then you get to play lawyer in court. And even if you win, the cop still wins because win or lose, the cop is still making big fat overtime money to show up for your case.

[maroman88]

I disagree a little. DWI CHECKPOINTS are money makers. The object, I'm told, is to pull over vehicles randomly. For example, every fifth or sixth car gets stopped and checked for DWI. HOWEVER, if, during a checkpoint, an officer spots the bad inspection sticker or no front plate or a headlight out, they're gonna stop the car and write a ticket for it. The administration (Police Chief) is being put under pressure by the town council to produce revenue; therefore, EVERYBODY under him is encouraged to write summonses at these checkpoints. It's the old poo rolls downhill theory. No, there are no quotas, but the cop who writes tickets advances in his/her career.

Otherwise, I'm with IROCDan. Be nice. Don't try to play lawyer on the side of the road. Because when you do, the cop writes a ticket. Then you get to play lawyer in court. And even if you win, the cop still wins because win or lose, the cop is still making big fat overtime money to show up for your case.


i know all the cops in my town and my friend just got promoted to sgt, i watched as a bunch took the sgt's test and went through interviews and the whole nine yards, they dont care if you write a thousand tickets a month, doesnt get u promoted to sgt. it goes to seniority and how well u test and interview.

if you have a problem with the money making end of things, and you think the chief is forced to tell his men to write tickets, you better take it out on the town council's and mayors, not the cops or even the chief.... think a little before you people speak and sound like ********!

[procamaroz28]

not talking abou tickets so save your breath, were talking about getting pulled over for NO REASON

[Blacdout96]

I was coming home about three months ago from my friends house in Hammonton. about 5 minutes into the ride my cars top radiator hose fell off cause it was faulty. anywho, I put it back on and since it was 11 at night noone was open, so I went down the white horse pike and stopped to allow it to cool down, then drive again, and so on. well the place I thought might of been open had a random check in front of it, and I was stuck in traffic. Finally I got up to him and the guy said where you coming from, I told him, he asked if I drank anyhting, I said no, and he said have a good day. I eventually got water abotu a 1/4 mile down the road at a bar. Now wheres this story going? well the checkpoint was on the east bound lane and the bar was on the west bound, past the checkpoint!!! and they werent doing it on the west bound side..... there was alot of people pulled over in the parkign lot next to the check so you are right, they were lookign for lights out, bad sticker, etc, but hey its their job, I think they're great things, but they're only great when you dont have alot of coolant lefti nyour system and almost over heat, and is on the wrong side of the road, but other then that, im for them

[JL8Jeff]

It's a privilege to drive, not a right to drive. Getting pulled over is part of the privilege of driving. They don't need to give you the reason for pulling you over. That's why driving a car with things like no front plate, windows tinted too dark, loud exhaust, no cats, lights out, etc. are just more of a reason to pull you over and check for other violations like DWI. There's no reason to get upset at a cop who is doing his job.

[NJSPEEDER]

not talking abou tickets so save your breath, were talking about getting pulled over for NO REASON

most of the "no reason" related check point stories i hear are from people who just left a bar, club or walked out of a restaurant that serves drinks late. leaving a bar at 2am certainly does raise the question of whether or not someone is ok to drive.
i would prefer it if the officers would pick one of two paths for these things though. either pull the car over and say right away that it is a random DUI stop and since the driver jsut left the bar they are a candidate to be checked or follow the car for a while and see if they do anything erratic or weird.
i have gone through a lot of check points on different holiday weekends and never had any problem. i have been asked if i was drinking when puled over on other occasions as well without anything coming of it. it is just like any other time you deal with the police, just answer their questions and don't act like a tool and everything is 99.999999999999999999999999999% likely to be fine.

[NumberTwo]

They don't need to give you the reason for pulling you over.
They may not need to give me personally the reason they pulled me over, but they do need probable cause. While driving is a privelage, it isnt the Polices job to enforce/deny that privelage. Thats why we have the MVC.

This issue is kinda like a double edged sword. Im all for the Police getting unwanted drunk drivers off the roads, but I am not for them just pulling people over for whatever reason they feel like.

[qwikz28]

...and then theres that one time when the drunk driver is doing nothing wrong but the cop decides to pull the guy over just to check, and gets another drunk driver off the road. I dont know why some people have it out for cops so bad, if youre respectful to them generally they will be respectful back.

I'm in agreement with alex.

thats my thoughts exactly.

[ShitOnWheels]

They may not need to give me personally the reason they pulled me over, but they do need probable cause. While driving is a privelage, it isnt the Polices job to enforce/deny that privelage. Thats why we have the MVC.

This issue is kinda like a double edged sword. Im all for the Police getting unwanted drunk drivers off the roads, but I am not for them just pulling people over for whatever reason they feel like.

The MVC doesn't have patrol cars enforcing the MVC laws. The cops do that. Hence the cop's job is to enforce the privilege.

I've only been through one checkpoint, on the night before Turkey Day when I was waitressing down in Browns Mills. They told me right away that it was a random checkpoint, asked if I'd been drinking, where I came from, where I was going, and I was on my way. :shrug:

I'm ok with checkpoints if they are stopping everyone or stopping everyone who comes out of the bar nearby. I'm a little less ok with pulling people over without probable cause, but understand that it is part of the priviledge. If it was a right to drive, I'd have a difference stance on the matter.

[NumberTwo]

The MVC doesn't have patrol cars enforcing the MVC laws. The cops do that. Hence the cop's job is to enforce the privilege.
You're missing my point. Police are here to make sure we obey the laws. The MVC is the one that grants and or denies us the privelage to drive, NOT the Police.

[79T/A]

they dont care if you write a thousand tickets a month, doesnt get u promoted to sgt. it goes to seniority and how well u test and interview.


You are absolutely right, maroman. Thing of it is, interviews are a huge part of the equation. So if you score a hundred on the written, you are doing very well, but if you bomb on the interview, you can still be surpassed by someone who scored lower on the written. Now, the interviews USUALLY (Different towns have different issues) consist of the knowledge of Attorney General guidelines, state traffic and criminal law and departmental policies and procedures. There is also a portion of interview that deals with the officer's resume. What have you done while on the job here? Now, if you walk into that interview with a lot of in service training under your belt, you're doing well. You're doing even better if you are an aggressive officer who doesn't just sit in the car for eight hours doing nothing unless you're called.

What I'm saying is, in police departments, opportunities for career enhancement go to those who show self initiative, such as interviewing suspicious persons and making motor vehicle stops and issuing summonses. The aggressive officers are the ones who are sent to schools to better themselves, and they are the ones who get promoted. So yes, cops do better their careers by writing tickets.

I'm the son of a cop who just retired, and I have a lot of friends on The Job too, so I'm not badmouthing any of them or trying to 'take anything out' on them. The fact is, the police department IS a business in some respects. If the town council is going to okay a department's request for more police cars, you'd better believe they're going to expect something in return. The fact is, DWI checkpoints generate money. Am I saying do away with them? No. I'm saying that if you are driving through one with no front plate or a light out or a bad inspection sticker, it's probably going to generate a summons. That was my point.

Now, for procamaro, I too disagree with being pulled over 'for no reason.' I'd just rather hear the cop out and answer any questions peacefully without starting a debate on the side of the road. You're not going to win it there. If you're going to win it, it'll be in court. Arguing with the cop isn't going to solve the problem. What's next? Refusing to pull over because you believe you did nothing wrong? Just do what you gotta do and move on. Best of all, don't give the cop any ammunition. A lot of stops are recorded now and the tape is discoverable (Can be seen in court), so it goes a lot better if you're calm and not argumentative.

[NJSPEEDER]

You're missing my point. Police are here to make sure we obey the laws. The MVC is the one that grants and or denies us the privelage to drive, NOT the Police.

.....and who do you think the MVC gets the information about people's ability to safely persue the privilege of driving?
the police have a tough job and i am not going to fault them for having to follow a hunch every now and then. i know when i see someone weaving down the road i always wonder where the cop is or at least where the cops are going to have to respond to whenever the pinhead in question crashes.
BTW, MVC pretty much just processes paperwork. they don't really care who does or doesn't drive. the laws as enforced and the judges who's job it is to dispense justice once someone is found guilty are the ones who decide if you have a license or not, and they get all their info from the police.

[Frosty]

If I'm not doing anything wrong then I shouldn't be pulled over, PERIOD. The "you were swerving" excuse is just ********. It's just a reason for them to pull you over and bust your balls. The whole "if you're not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about" thing is complete BS. It's not a matter of doing anything wrong then you shouldn't be bothered, PERIOD. Give them an inch they take a mile. I guess everyone that's not doing anything wrong is ok with the Patriot Act too right?

I have no problems with cops and I DESPISE DESPISE DESPISE drunk drivers. You're putting my life at risk by being a dumbass. However, to randomly pull you over for no good reason isn't something I'm fond of. I don't care if driving is a right or privilege, harassment is illegal, PERIOD.

..and before any jumps on me my dad's side of the family is filled with cops, one of which is more powerful than anyone here knows...I still don't subscribe to half of the ******** tactics "some" cops pull. I respect cops and I'm thankful for the job they do but leave me the hell alone if I'm not doing anything wrong.

[1972LT1]

I'm with Frosty 100%. If I did something wrong fine, but if I'm just out driving the car I'm sick of the escort or cop pulling me over because I "chirped wheels" or my "exhaust is too loud" just so they can give out their quota of warnings and/or tickets. If my exhaust is "too loud"(stock 1972 dual exhaust) why didn't he pull over the ricers with the fart can exhaust and bass tube stereo that went by?

[zuuhlsT/A]

The first question outta my mouth is always "What seems to be the problem officer?" Most of the time it was legit, ie. lamp out, failure to signal, stuff like that. I don't mind as long as the officer is respectful and cool. I got pulled over at 2 am once and all the officer wanted to do was compliment me on my car! I sat and bs'd with the guy for like a half hour. Most cops are just like me and you.:nod:

[Rafterman]

I dont know why some people have it out for cops so bad

Cause a cop gave me three tickets into my first day of driving(five hours into it). only one of which held up in court: Failure to inspect (one day overdue). and other than that, the cop has usually just told me about how he had a Trans Am like mine and how he was always getting into trouble and how the police will probably hassle me until i get a I4 pos honda.

[Frosty]

Wait, so you're pissed off that he wrote you for a legit ticket? WTF?

[Rafterman]

No, IROCdan asked why people have it out for police. I don't like them cause 5 hours into my first day, pulling out of a drive way i apparently "chirpped tires" and he said i did a full on burn out. so he gave me Reckless Driving, Careless Driving, and failure to inspect. I am fine with the failure to inspect casue that was a legit ticket. but my first day into driving and i get a reckless (5 points) and careless (2 points). neither of which stood up in court cause I did neither. listen before ya jump on my back.

[Frosty]

Ok, so the one that held up was legit. I'm failing to see the problem. I also didn't jump on your back so relax.


Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

[ShitOnWheels]

Ok, so the one that held up was legit. I'm failing to see the problem. I also didn't jump on your back, if you want I certain can you tool.

Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

What he is saying is the reason he got pulled over in the first place was NOT legit, hence the tickets not standing up in court. If the cop had pulled him over only for the inspection, he might not have it out for them as much.

[ShitOnWheels]

You're missing my point. Police are here to make sure we obey the laws. The MVC is the one that grants and or denies us the privelage to drive, NOT the Police.

You're missing my point. The MVC grants the priviledge based on what the cops say. The cop doesn't say "you can no longer drive." The cop says "Here's your ticket." Enough tickets/points and the MVC says "You can't drive for xx days."

Until the MVC gets their own patrol agency (a waste of money, but I wouldn't put it past NJ), the cops enforce the rules and laws of driving, the MVC determines who still gets the priviledge to drive.

[Rafterman]

Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

Allentown NJ. the worst place on earth to have a Trans Am. and thank you SOW. he wouldn't have seen the inspection had i not gotten pulled over for bs.

[NumberTwo]

You're missing my point. The MVC grants the priviledge based on what the cops say. The cop doesn't say "you can no longer drive." The cop says "Here's your ticket." Enough tickets/points and the MVC says "You can't drive for xx days."

Until the MVC gets their own patrol agency (a waste of money, but I wouldn't put it past NJ), the cops enforce the rules and laws of driving, the MVC determines who still gets the priviledge to drive.
The MVC grants us the right to hold a license based on what the COURT says.

And did I not say that the cops enforce the LAWS while the MVC grants the privelage? You just agreed with what I said.

[ShitOnWheels]

They may not need to give me personally the reason they pulled me over, but they do need probable cause. While driving is a privelage, it isnt the Polices job to enforce/deny that privelage. Thats why we have the MVC.

This issue is kinda like a double edged sword. Im all for the Police getting unwanted drunk drivers off the roads, but I am not for them just pulling people over for whatever reason they feel like.

I was originally replying to the bolded part, where you say it's not the police's job to enforce the priviledge, when they enforce the laws that provide the priviledge. We agree on that, that the cops are there to enforce the laws.

Then you say
You're missing my point. Police are here to make sure we obey the laws. The MVC is the one that grants and or denies us the privelage to drive, NOT the Police.

In which I responded that you're missing the point. I no where said the police can deny or grant the priviledge, they just enforce the laws that provide us that priviledge. The rules of the MVC state that vehicles must be inspected to be in working order. The police are the ones to enforce that cars are inspected. They don't take away the car unless you are a risk to yourself or others (in very bad condition, driving drunk/impaired, etc), or unless the MVC states the car needs to be impounded (which happened to someone I know once because he didn't turn in his vanity plates right away). But they don't say "oh, you were going 50 in a 45, you can't drive anymore."

And yes, you're right, the MVC goes by court decisions to deny driving priviledges, but it's the cop that brings it to the courts attention via tickets.

[shane27]

even if im totally trashed but im driving fine i dont think i deserve to be pulled over :nod::mrgreen:

[Knipps]

to clarify what i said earlier, my feelings are like this

if the driver's weaving/swaying anything out of the ordinary, fine
if it's a checkpoint, fine
if i'm just driving and you feel like pulling me over, that i have a problem with.

i understand driving's a privilege but there should have to be a reason to pull someone over, anyone. not just pulling over some random person to check and see if they're drunk driving.

if they are pulled over with a random car and a drunk driver goes whizzing by what's going to happen? sure they can call it in, but the first officer would have been able to take care of it.

[Brando56894]

this would kind of piss me off, i freak out when i see those lights flip on even if im not doing anything illegal.

[qwikz28]

why would you be nervous getting pulled over if you have nothing to hide? even sometimes i do something stupid i get off, so i wouldn't worry if i know a cop is just checking.

[procamaroz28]

Ok, so the one that held up was legit. I'm failing to see the problem. I also didn't jump on your back so relax.


Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

cops are NOT allowed to do that they cant even give careless or reckless w/ speeding those tickets can only be given alone or with non moving violations otherwise they will be tossed as soon as the judge sees them

[Rafterman]

yea, thats what the trooper at my school told me. the trooper said he was probably after my license.

[BigAls87Z28]

why would you be nervous getting pulled over if you have nothing to hide? even sometimes i do something stupid i get off, so i wouldn't worry if i know a cop is just checking.

While Brando is a friggin waste, the point still stands that when I see a cop, I get tense.
I would figure that 70% of cops are up to no good(speeding, going through red lights, taking U turns at intersections, going around traffic, etc) or bored enough to just to bust balls.
So what tends to happen is the following. They get behind you, ride your *** for a few blocks, check plates, bug you from a very close distance, and then either take off or pull you over.
Why do cops HAVE to ride my ass? There is no reason, they shouldnt. Unsafe distance from car to car, isnt that illegal?
Now, a man like myself with 12 points tend to be the fan of many visits by police officers. 12 points, I must be up to no good. I guess thats enough for them to see what I might be doing. Lets not even go there when I have the Camaro out. All the questioning about QQ plates, why am I driving the car, where am I going, do I have paperwork for any repairs done, whatever the case.
Why do I not feel safe when I see a cop? Even better, why do I feel even more in danger when I see one? They sit on my street and nail all the people taking illegal turns, and they nail about 10 a day.
I dont feel safe around cops. I dont like how they hide to catch speeders. It shouldnt be about SURPRISE, GOTCHA!
Why cant they just stand out in the open, where people dont react instinctivly and slam on thier brakes?
I belive that some cops do have a good heart and really just dont want to bust balls, but there are probably a large group of cops that were picked on at some point in thier life, and this is thier way of getting back at the world. It happens, oh well.
Should you be pulled over for swerving? Yeah, I guess to make sure everything is ok, but not be on the offensive and looking for problems. I would first asked if everything was ok, and from there I would use my super-cop powers to see if you were indeed drunk, sleepy, or maybe just tried to avoid an animal.
Large DWI check points are good, but they are good when they target a certain time where most people might be drinking and driving, ie summer time, jersey shore, around 2-4am when clubs and bars let out. DWI checkpoint at 3 in the afternoon....uhh, no thanks.
Ive got nothing to hide, but that doesnt give cops the right to bust balls, waste time, and possibly hand out BS tickets.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

to clarify what i said earlier, my feelings are like this

if the driver's weaving/swaying anything out of the ordinary, fine
if it's a checkpoint, fine
if i'm just driving and you feel like pulling me over, that i have a problem with.

i understand driving's a privilege but there should have to be a reason to pull someone over, anyone. not just pulling over some random person to check and see if they're drunk driving.

if they are pulled over with a random car and a drunk driver goes whizzing by what's going to happen? sure they can call it in, but the first officer would have been able to take care of it.

:werd:

Although around my area most cops are just pains since there is no crime, and they routinely go wayy over the limit and cut people off.

[WildBillyT]

In my opinion, DWI checkpoints are just like the long security line at the airport. You have to sacrifice speed and convenience for a little extra safety. Some people don't have a problem with that, others do.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

No problem w/ it here at all...

[bobb1589]

doesnt work like that why should cops be able harass any one for pretty much no reason theyr wasting time b/c mean while there probably is a drunk swerving and about to get into an accident but no the cop wants to be a fag and pull over someone for no real reason which they arent allowed to do

wow... i dont think 5 minutes of your time is that precious that you have to insult them for trying to protect you as well as others out on the road

[procamaroz28]

wow... i dont think 5 minutes of your time is that precious that you have to insult them for trying to protect you as well as others out on the road

ur missing the point. they arent protecting anyone if you get pulled over for no reason and they know what they're doing that, they pretty much hope to get lucky and write a few bs tickets, mean while someone is really driving drunk and gets away with it b/c some one completly sober gets pulled over on his way home

[Blacdout96]

cops are NOT allowed to do that they cant even give careless or reckless w/ speeding those tickets can only be given alone or with non moving violations otherwise they will be tossed as soon as the judge sees them

Seriously? cause last year I got speeding and careless driving at the same time, so somethings up, anyway Hamilton police are asses, but most cops are cool, as long as your not doing anyhting stupid they shouldnt need to pull you over.

[Frosty]

cops are NOT allowed to do that they cant even give careless or reckless w/ speeding those tickets can only be given alone or with non moving violations otherwise they will be tossed as soon as the judge sees them

I'd recheck that theory there. ;)

[procamaroz28]

na by law as long a u were only speeding (not changing lanes too) but cop decides to give both speeding and careless the prosecutor must have them emended to either or. usually they keep the speeding

[procamaroz28]

the reason cops do that is because they'll say u got careless because of speed which they cant do thats why we have speeding tickets

[jims69camaro]

gotta love all of the philadelphia lawyers on this board. they're the ones making the most noise about being pulled over, yet when they are pulled over there is usually something wrong with the car or their paperwork.

cops pull people over. if a cop doesn't pull someone over, how is he going to know that their paperwork is in order and/or anything else he suspects that the driver may be guilty of? if you don't like getting pulled over by cops, then stay out of your car. because, as already stated, driving is a privilege. btw:

priv·i·lege noun
1. a special advantage or immunity or benefit not enjoyed by all

basically, the MVC determines who is eligible to be licensed, the cops and judges enforce and punish and the MVC can and will suspend the privilege to drive for certain infractions of the law, or for exceeding the maximum number of points allowed, both of which are reported by the courts.

this is the way things work. crying about it will not change it. but, if you follow the proper channels and write the right letters and garner the proper support, then you might be able to change the system. you think you are the only person in known history to be young and driving a hot car? cops love young kids in hot cars because they usually don't know the law and will typically not have their paperwork together and/or will have something wrong with the car like no front plate, windows tinted too dark, etc.

i did not post up previously because i don't have a problem with random checkpoints. hell, i don't care if a cop pulls me over because his ear itched. my paperwork is in order and there is typically nothing wrong with my car. if a bulb is out, then it just went out, because i check my bulbs before i leave and i have replacements in the glovebox. so they can pull me over whenever they want. with or without reason, i don't care.

[Frosty]

Jim, nothing is ever wrong with my car, I have no points on my license, in fact I never had points.

You know what's funny? I've never been pulled over in PA, yet when I lived in NJ it seemed to be every few months(and never for anything more than ball busting). I used to get a kick out of it, fine, a young kid driving a flashy red trans am. I used to love seeing their pissed off faces when NOTHING was out of order. After I started getting older it became a pain in the ***. Leave me alone, I'm not doing anything wrong.

Sure, they have a right to pull me over, I have a right to ***** about it and call their superiors and rip them a new *******. If they were straight up honest with me some of the times I was pulled over I'd be cool with it. Just tell me that you're checking to see if I'm insured, just tell me you stereotyped me but don't insult my intelligence by making up some lame brain excuse. Respect goes both ways. :)

[jims69camaro]

you're right, tony. but they can't tell you that they were stereotyping you, that's a big no-no in this state - they call it profiling. well, it works. if they use the typical profile of a young kid in a hot car and pull those guys over, chances are they'll be writing tickets. i think you and i are exceptions to the rule, as we have our **** together.

you find it an annoyance. i find it laughable. either way, they are just doing their job and i don't begrudge them for it.

[zuuhlsT/A]

Yeah I agree. Just quit your crying and get used to the fact that if you drive a car that looks fast and the cop is in a bad way you're gonna get hassled. As long as u got your stuff together it should'nt be a problem. It''s part of life man, just be happy if you were not doing anything incredibly stupid you won't get a ticket. If you got caught thats you're own stupidity. Hey, I had 27 points on my license...and I earned every single one by driving like a dumbass....and getting caught.:mrgreen: