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1QWIKBIRD
11-27-2007, 10:13 PM
your 4th gen to free up cash to purchase a 1969 Chevelle documented, numbers matching L-78 car (396BB 375hp solid lifter), with Muncie 4spd and 12-bolt (4.10's), black with white gut. Oh and assume the Chevelle was complete and correct car, not a clone or some half ***** attempt at one, currently registered and roadworthy, and in generally good condition both mechanically and not a rusted out hulk?
The car does need attention, but is generally in good shape for a car that will be 40 years old very soon..
Attached is a pic of a 69 chevelle....just for reference and for the young guys that maybe don't know....
Chris
Tru2Chevy
11-27-2007, 10:15 PM
Um, yes....in a heartbeat.
- Justin
procamaroz28
11-27-2007, 10:20 PM
no!!! i love my 4th gen... id like something to be driven the **** out of, not a garage princess
+ i dont care for chevelles im not a chevy guy but im a 4th gen fanatic... if that makes any sense lol
Tru2Chevy
11-27-2007, 10:28 PM
id like something to be driven the **** out of, not a garage princess
How could you possibly leave a big block 4 speed Chevelle sitting in your garage? I would drive the piss out of that car :nod:
- Justin
qwikz28
11-27-2007, 10:29 PM
chevelle = appreciate in value
formula = depreciate in value
the choice is obvious IMO
procamaroz28
11-27-2007, 10:31 PM
tru but matching #s part threw me off and like i said dont realy care for chevelle
ar0ck
11-27-2007, 10:31 PM
In a New York minute. There should be no question to it.
procamaroz28
11-27-2007, 10:33 PM
chevelle = appreciate in value
formula = depreciate in value
the choice is obvious IMO
wouldnt want to invest in that if i had to sell my car
SteveR
11-27-2007, 10:36 PM
get the RPO codes for it and see just how rare it is.
bad64chevelle
11-27-2007, 10:58 PM
No doubt in my mind...its a very good investment at this point in time.
bad64chevelle
11-27-2007, 11:01 PM
no!!! i love my 4th gen... id like something to be driven the **** out of, not a garage princess
+ i dont care for chevelles im not a chevy guy but im a 4th gen fanatic... if that makes any sense lol
I dont care what I have Im still gonna drive the balls out of it. My Chevelle is one of 2500 v8-4speed convertible SS's known still in existance, its by no way a concourse restoration but it holds its own comparably to most other restored vehicles around, and I still drive the balls out of it...hense the reason the motor is out of it again :-)
NJSPEEDER
11-27-2007, 11:03 PM
depends if you are looking for an investment or a driver. as an investment, go chevelle. if you are looking for something to drive and push around corners, stick with your car.
bubba428
11-27-2007, 11:07 PM
probably not...I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat
SpeedMetalT/A
11-27-2007, 11:09 PM
I would keep the 4th gen b/c you can beat on it and don't have to worry about how much you're ruining the value of a rare car,and I'm not much of a chevelle guy either.
nj96z28
11-27-2007, 11:42 PM
abso- fricking- lutely
79CamaroDiva
11-27-2007, 11:46 PM
the answer is obvious.
sell something else. keep both.
EDIT: maybe that's why i've never sold a car in my life. :lol:
BonzoHansen
11-28-2007, 05:26 AM
Is this a rhetorical question? LOL Yes, all else being equal it is a no-brainer.
What about autocross? What about the Nova?
DaSkinnyGuy
11-28-2007, 06:11 AM
I want both just because I havent had either one of them I would keep the 4th gen and figure out some way to get that chevelle.
1QWIKBIRD
11-28-2007, 06:14 AM
Is this a rhetorical question? LOL Yes, all else being equal it is a no-brainer.
What about autocross? What about the Nova?
A shot at a real big block chevelle trumps the autocross.
The Nova will get done this winter and serve as the dragstrip warrior.
To me it all hinges on the authenticity of the Chevelle, if its just a 69 chevelle that someone dropped a big block into, then it is not attractive at all, any yahoo can do that.
If the car is legit, the codes match, accompanying paper bears fruit, then it will be a much more difficult decision. I would still drive the wheels off the car. How could you not want to feel the rush of big block torque, and hear solid lifter clickety clack, true dual exhaust as it hustles through the gears?
I am supposed to get some pics of the car, then we'll take it from there.
Chris
WildBillyT
11-28-2007, 07:38 AM
If it has all the proper documentation, you should absolutely do it. Once the resto/freshening is done you could probably sell it and pick up a fleet of 4th gens.
Anti_Rice_Guy
11-28-2007, 07:58 AM
GET ITTTTT!!! If it's about the same amount as a 4th gen and it's legit, I'd definitely go for it. Prices are insane for these things, even if you just clean it up and turn it around!
AliWantsNss
11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
The only thing I would sell my car for is a house.
the answer is simple, go on ebay and do a search for the chevelle your looking at, what will you find? a couple and all at a kings ransom......
now do a search for 4th gens, hundreds and the prices are dropping.....
sell the formy, get the chevelle, and then when ls1 cars can be had in the 4k range and lower, pick up another.
mtnhopper1
11-28-2007, 01:02 PM
If it is the real deal, I'd buy it.
Be careful with the '69 chevelle. Unlike 68 and earlier, there is no way to determine from the vin/trim tag whether it is a real SS unless it is an original orange or yellow car (which were only available on SS).
Be sure the car has proper (and not fake) documentation before you buy it.
Lots of info here:
http://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html
Teds89IROC
11-28-2007, 02:06 PM
the answer is simple, go on ebay and do a search for the chevelle your looking at, what will you find? a couple and all at a kings ransom......
now do a search for 4th gens, hundreds and the prices are dropping.....
sell the formy, get the chevelle, and then when ls1 cars can be had in the 4k range and lower, pick up another.
:stupid:
alamantia
11-28-2007, 02:24 PM
69 chevelles came in purple?
Your 4th gen will eventually go up in value, that chevelle wasnt always worth what it is worth now.
If you could do a clean swap and the chevelle is legit id say do it, i dont know too many people looking to off a 69 numbers matching chevelle for a new car, so somethingsounds a little fishy there, but go for whatever makes ya happy
Id want to keep my 4th gen because im the only owner and it means a lot to me to keep that car, but id trade ir for the right trade, had it been a 67 chevelle 138 car my **** would be gone faster than i could finish this post.
JL8Jeff
11-28-2007, 02:45 PM
That's basically what I did last year. I sold my 96 SS White hardtop(pretty rare without t-tops) and bought the 70 SS396 L78 Camaro(#'s matching engine and GM of Canada paperwork). I missed the 96 so I sold my 88 4Runner and bought the 2000 SS. I know someone with a red or orange 69 L78 Chevelle for sale that is matching #'s but I don't think it has any paperwork. I think he was looking to get in the mid to high $30's price range but I can't remember for sure. L78 cars will always command stronger prices than the other 396 cars so grab it if it's real.
EchoMirage
11-28-2007, 03:53 PM
sell the nova instead. there arent many WS6 formulas out there either.....last year offered, not a very popular option. each year there are less and less around. if you want a drag strip warrior, how can you go wrong with a 396/375? enter in pure stock or FAST., and youll have more fun with that then bracket racing the nova.
1QWIKBIRD
11-28-2007, 07:14 PM
sell the nova instead. there arent many WS6 formulas out there either.....last year offered, not a very popular option. each year there are less and less around. if you want a drag strip warrior, how can you go wrong with a 396/375? enter in pure stock or FAST., and youll have more fun with that then bracket racing the nova.
Can't sell the Nova........That car is part of me....
1QWIKBIRD
11-28-2007, 07:28 PM
get the RPO codes for it and see just how rare it is.
That's what I am in the process of doing. I learned more about the car tonight and saw pics of it. Not in bad shape at all. It looks like a 15 year old restoration, as best I can tell from the pics. The build sheet does exist and the current owner has it. I don't believe the car has changed hands since the late 80's/early 90's. Original 4spd and 12-bolt still with the car. Original block was replaced under warranty and supposedly there is paperwork to support this. I have first shot at the car (so I am told?), but it's not officially for sale just yet as some other unrelated details need to be worked out first. So that works to my advantage, maybe it will allow me to keep the Firechicken.
It has all the "SS" badges (not big deal really), and hood. There is no A/C, which is consistent with the L-78 option. Power disc brakes upfront look to be original to the car. Definitely a big block radiator in it. Buckets with a Hurst T-handle (not original) poking up from the floor, no console in sight. Typical aftermarket 3-gauge setup hanging under the dash. Looked like an Eddy performer RPM intake with gold Moroso air cleaner and chrome Moroso tall valve covers with the "T" bolts:rofl:. The engine almost looks small in that engine bay.
Off to the garage to finish my Nova........The Chevelle got my juices flowing again for the Nova.
Chris
1QWIKBIRD
11-28-2007, 07:32 PM
sell the nova instead. there arent many WS6 formulas out there either.....last year offered, not a very popular option. each year there are less and less around. if you want a drag strip warrior, how can you go wrong with a 396/375? enter in pure stock or FAST., and youll have more fun with that then bracket racing the nova.
What if I told you the Formula is a WS6 "clone"???? Doesn't matter to me, but it is.....truth be told.
Did you ever secure a set of rims for autox? If not pm me I have a set of 17x9.5's OZ's for sale with toyo ra-1s. Tires are pretty used up, but not dead yet.
Chris
EchoMirage
11-28-2007, 09:50 PM
yeah, i found some new imitation Z06s without tires. come next year im going to try a cheaper slick for racing, instead of 710s. maybe shaved vics.....we'll see.
JL8Jeff
11-29-2007, 07:29 AM
Warranty replacement block (should have a CE code on it) will hurt the value regardless of documentation to back it up. So adjust your price accordingly.
firebirdcrazy
11-29-2007, 08:11 AM
I dont know correct me if I am wrong but I dont seem to see Firebirds and trans am's from 99-02 going down in value anymore. The street values have been taking over any bluebooks value's especially on the 01-02 birds. My bird has been getting offers from 15g's the highest being 25 g's for a completely stock 123,000 mile drivetrain. All it has are engine bolt ons and clean customizations through out the car. Yet the car looks like it was built that way. And still runs as strong as it was new. I have been offered trades for it as well even a numbers matching clean 70 351 Mach 1 mustang. I was not giving up my bird for neither money nor trade. I LOVE MY BIRD. I really liked the red mustang I have always wanted one, but I rather by it and have both but it was to expensive. This is all up too you and how much sentimental value and money value you hold and will get for that bird. I know sometimes we want it all but bottom line is we cant.
2MCHPWR
12-16-2007, 04:02 PM
chris - what did you decide?
your car isn't a real ws6?:twisted: its a real ws6 hood, real emblem and real raised airbox:drool: and koni's. maybe its a ws6 1LE:nod:
1QWIKBIRD
12-16-2007, 09:56 PM
chris - what did you decide?
your car isn't a real ws6?:twisted: its a real ws6 hood, real emblem and real raised airbox:drool: and koni's. maybe its a ws6 1LE:nod:
The guy with the chevelle is still taking care of some other things first, so I don't know. I haven't seen the chevelle in person yet so I can't really say. I do know that if the car is not legit or is a basket case (which i don't believe to be the case) I have no interest. We'll see. I have first shot at it, so I am told, so when I get the opportunity to go and look at it, I'll decide then.
I know what it takes (time, money, effort) to do an old musclecar properly from the ground up. My Nova has been a long time in the making and a correct numbers type resto is even more intense I am sure. You just don't get a shot a real piece of automotive history very often, that's my attraction to the car.
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