6 figure incomes

[WayFast84]

What professions have 6 figure incomes? I have to start thinking about what I want to do so I figures ill start with the most lucrative professions and move downwards in the pay scale till something intrigues me.

[keith2717]

Sandwich Artist

[12secondv6]

Porn star

[qwikz28]

don't search by solely income. it depends on what you like. i'm applying to law school next year but have no intention of practicing law for a very long time. if i could do it over, i probably would have done mechanical engineering. neither are really guaranteed "six-figure jobs" because it all depends on the job you get.

fart around on salary.com and remember, salary is directly proportional with how much schooling you get. a college grad will make far less then a ph.d grad. unfortunately for us, a bachelor degree doesn't get you where it used to :(

[GrandmasterCow]

some types of law enforcement, computer sciences, etc..

[JL8Jeff]

Don't waste time thinking about a 6 figure income. You need to find something that you enjoy, find challenging or are good at. I bet 80% of people who go to college end up with a job in a profession different for what they went to school for. People tend to find what they're good at or like doing once they are in the work force. Our company has a huge number of people that change departments when they find their niche. I'm probably the only idiot that is still in the same position I was hired for! :knock: But I still find the job challenging and I enjoy helping the other people in the company. 18-1/2 years doing computer programming and support for the same company!

[GrandmasterCow]

Don't waste time thinking about a 6 figure income. You need to find something that you enjoy, find challenging or are good at. I bet 80% of people who go to college end up with a job in a profession different for what they went to school for. People tend to find what they're good at or like doing once they are in the work force. Our company has a huge number of people that change departments when they find their niche. I'm probably the only idiot that is still in the same position I was hired for! :knock: But I still find the job challenging and I enjoy helping the other people in the company. 18-1/2 years doing computer programming and support for the same company!

what languages?

[ShitOnWheels]

don't search by solely income. it depends on what you like. i'm applying to law school next year but have no intention of practicing law for a very long time. if i could do it over, i probably would have done mechanical engineering. neither are really guaranteed "six-figure jobs" because it all depends on the job you get.

fart around on salary.com and remember, salary is directly proportional with how much schooling you get. a college grad will make far less then a ph.d grad. unfortunately for us, a bachelor degree doesn't get you where it used to :(

Not necessarily true. My EdS will allow me to make the same amount James makes without finishing college. With my Bachelor's only, James makes 3 times what I do now.

It all depends on the field you are in. And yes, I know I"m comparing 2 irrelevant fields, but you will not always make more as a PhD than as a BA. In some cases, once you have PhD you become overqualified and many places would rather hire a BA or MA candidate because they can pay them less.

The best way I've heard to find what you like is to take intro classes in different subjects and see what interests you. I know you're not in college yet, but maybe you can take a summer course or 1 course during the normal semesters at a community college or something. Or wait til you go to college. You don't have to know your major right away.

[misterjuice]

I make $5.25 an hour......manwhoring

[TheBandit]

I'm going to be a cop for my town/one of the towns around me. I heard they were changing it so that you didn't even have to go to college to enter the academy, but i think I'll still go for my bachelors.

[98tadriver]

union pays good. current carpenter's rate is 37.27/hr, but you would have to go thru a 4 year apprenticeship first. thats still a good starting rate, 40% of journeymans rate, which is like 14.80something if i remember correctly. im @ 95%, or $35.41/hr. that translates to 70k/year. im busy most of the year as well. but it would depend on what area you live in, there might be more work going on, or less. sometimes u can score some overtime and u will hit 90k or more/year. im not a big fan of OT, ill just take my 40hrs. and this work will keep u in shape too!

[Predator86]

u can make that as a union welder....thats what im goin for if the automotive industry dosent work out for me

[98tadriver]

we do welding in the carpenters union too. :) usually when it comes to welding angle clips to steel I beams for exterior framing, or welding structual studs. they actually teach that in a night class at apprenticeship school. pipe fitters and electricians make more than carpenters, i think their going rate now is around $40+/hr

[WayFast84]

Honestly I want to be something like a contractor. Thanks for that info Ron, that is something I'm definitely considering

[NJSPEEDER]

find a job that interests you and find a way to make money from it. i have had jobs that used my degree and would pay better than what i get working in a warehouse and i was miserable.

[qwikz28]

Not necessarily true. My EdS will allow me to make the same amount James makes without finishing college. With my Bachelor's only, James makes 3 times what I do now.

It all depends on the field you are in. And yes, I know I"m comparing 2 irrelevant fields, but you will not always make more as a PhD than as a BA. In some cases, once you have PhD you become overqualified and many places would rather hire a BA or MA candidate because they can pay them less.

The best way I've heard to find what you like is to take intro classes in different subjects and see what interests you. I know you're not in college yet, but maybe you can take a summer course or 1 course during the normal semesters at a community college or something. Or wait til you go to college. You don't have to know your major right away.

but you're citing a rare case. phds are far more likely to be making big money then a BA or even an MA. show me a pharm.d thats not making six figures starting.

[98tadriver]

win the lottery and get like a 9 figure income, then invest a crapload and live off of interest :)

[Savage_Messiah]

and remember, salary is directly proportional with how much schooling you get. a college grad will make far less then a ph.d grad. unfortunately for us, a bachelor degree doesn't get you where it used to :(

If you want to have a job and work for somebody else and be a work processor, then go spend thousands and thousands of dollars for a couple pieces of paper that say "hi, I just spent a lot of money and I want to work under you and not make as much money as you do."

Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely anti-school. I am all for everybody being required to have an education... but up to a point.

Depending on the field though, if you go into business for yourself, you can make 6-7 figures and your real world experiance is what counts. In business ownership (again if you find the right field), they sky is the limit for your income; you still have money coming in if you're sick, injured, on vacation, etc; and you are completely free to say "OK I want to go here on this date... I want my kids to go to this school... I want this quality of life." and never have to make compromises on your life because of lack of money.

[Savage_Messiah]

invest and live off of interest :)

this right here is probably the best peice of advice anybody's given in this thread.


The key is NOT how much money you make... but how much you save.

Keepign that in mind though... the more you make, the more you can save

[qwikz28]

If you want to have a job and work for somebody else and be a work processor, then go spend thousands and thousands of dollars for a couple pieces of paper that say "hi, I just spent a lot of money and I want to work under you and not make as much money as you do."

Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely anti-school. I am all for everybody being required to have an education... but up to a point.

Depending on the field though, if you go into business for yourself, you can make 6-7 figures and your real world experiance is what counts. In business ownership (again if you find the right field), they sky is the limit for your income; you still have money coming in if you're sick, injured, on vacation, etc; and you are completely free to say "OK I want to go here on this date... I want my kids to go to this school... I want this quality of life." and never have to make compromises on your life because of lack of money.

no offense kasey, but you have no idea what you're talking about. professors make their money off of textbooks, research, etc... ever wonder why you pay so much for books? businesses do make great money, but its not secure. you guys forget about job security. you think a PhD is anywhere as likely to be unemployed as a uneducated entrepreneur?

i don't know what you're doin now kasey, but your ideas to ditch school in hopes for a quick buck isn't the end-all solution. sure, you might do well, but the chances are slim. and to suggest to a high-schooler that there are easier ways around an education isn't the brightest of ideas. personally, i'm not willing to take a risk on my future.

[Savage_Messiah]

When did i ever say quick buck or that you don't need to work your *** off?

And job security is a funny one... how many jobs have recently been outsourced? Mass layoffs in the news? How about all of the NJ college's recent budget cuts and laying off teachers?

[ShitOnWheels]

no offense kasey, but you have no idea what you're talking about. professors make their money off of textbooks, research, etc... ever wonder why you pay so much for books? businesses do make great money, but its not secure. you guys forget about job security. you think a PhD is anywhere as likely to be unemployed as a uneducated entrepreneur?

i don't know what you're doin now kasey, but your ideas to ditch school in hopes for a quick buck isn't the end-all solution. sure, you might do well, but the chances are slim. and to suggest to a high-schooler that there are easier ways around an education isn't the brightest of ideas. personally, i'm not willing to take a risk on my future.

The job market for PhDs is crap right now. There are very few spots for PhDs in colleges right now (in a few years many will retire, yes, but there is already an overabudance of qualified people to take their place just waiting for them to retire), and very few non academic places want PhD candidates because they have to pay them more. Job security for a PhD is not a good as for someone in the corporate world. Might be about the same for an entrepreneur, but may actually be worse than for someone with just a BA. Don't believe me, find a job posting for a university, and then ask them how many resumes they received. I'll bet they receive hundreds of well qualified candidates for one position. And it happens all over the country.

Nonetheless, a BA/BS is much better than just a HS Diploma or GED. But many fields can get away with just a Bachelors. Others need an MA.

For WayFast, he needs to just take classes in various fields and find what interests him. It's not always going to be about the money. You think teachers do it for the money? Teachers with Masters degrees often make less than someone in a management position with just a bachelors. As I said, with my EdS I will still make less than James who never finished college. It's not as uncommon as you suggest.

Bottom line, don't always think about the money. You can survive on a minimum income if you know how to manage your money. Do what you enjoy doing, and the only way to find that is to take different courses in different areas, or as to work in different fields as an intern or apprentice. Looking around on the internet is most likely not going to find you what you like to do.

[Icemansghost]

I'm making 25.06 an hour in the Air Force National Guard. Plus I work at lowes with NJSPEEDER AKA tim. Ill Make Close to 100 k next year, Including both jobs.

[WildBillyT]

A Phd or even an MS will only get you an "atta boy" in the business world. You are NOT guaranteed jack crap from it. I know this first hand. However, it is nice to have and can open doors that were otherwise closed. Go for as much education as you can afford and stand.

Also, don't forget to take into account the amount of hours that salaried employees put in. I know a bunch of guys that make a ton of money but they work 8-10 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you figure out their six figure salary vs. the time they spend, they are actually worse off than many people who make less.

[chrisfrom nj]

become a drug dealer quick and easy money lol

[sinistr]

Honestly I want to be something like a contractor. Thanks for that info Ron, that is something I'm definitely considering

no you don't .. construction is dead... there is so much crap in that field that you don't even know or want to know about .. in about 2 years it'll pick back up ..


union construction pays well , pipe fitters are good jobs .. but everyone i know in any of these fields is always worried about running out of work..

utility company's are always great to work for .. gas,water etc

[The Fixer]

Also, don't forget to take into account the amount of hours that salaried employees put in. I know a bunch of guys that make a ton of money but they work 8-10 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you figure out their six figure salary vs. the time they spend, they are actually worse off than many people who make less.


:werd: My brother is an accountant for a firm in NYC. I'm sure he makes near or over $100K/year, but he's got an hour commute each way, plus at the end of the fiscal year and every quarter, he's working 9-10 hours a day, and even has to go in on Saturdays without compensation.

On the other hand, I'm a 10th year teacher in one of the lowest paying districts in the state, and I make around 45K a year. Sure, that kinda sucks compared to some of the other jobs listed in the thread (or my other teacher friends in different districts), but it's not a bad gig. Plus, I have good benefits, a 7-hour work day, and only work 184 days a year with summers off! If I just stay with my Bachelors, I'll make around 65K at the top of the scale - in another 8 years or so.

If you like the medical field, go for X-Ray tech, or the big $$ Registered Nurse. My wife's been a nurse for 17 years, will easily make what I made this year, and she works part-time. If she worked full time, she'd be kickin' my ***** in the salary department!

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working for the phone company or the power company would be a good job, i deal with those guys all the time, they do practically nothing and get paid very very well for it.
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[qwikz28]

When did i ever say quick buck or that you don't need to work your *** off?

And job security is a funny one... how many jobs have recently been outsourced? Mass layoffs in the news? How about all of the NJ college's recent budget cuts and laying off teachers?
very rarely does a professional's job become outsourced. you can't outsource a doctor or a professor
The job market for PhDs is crap right now. There are very few spots for PhDs in colleges right now (in a few years many will retire, yes, but there is already an overabudance of qualified people to take their place just waiting for them to retire), and very few non academic places want PhD candidates because they have to pay them more. Job security for a PhD is not a good as for someone in the corporate world. Might be about the same for an entrepreneur, but may actually be worse than for someone with just a BA. Don't believe me, find a job posting for a university, and then ask them how many resumes they received. I'll bet they receive hundreds of well qualified candidates for one position. And it happens all over the country.

Nonetheless, a BA/BS is much better than just a HS Diploma or GED. But many fields can get away with just a Bachelors. Others need an MA.

For WayFast, he needs to just take classes in various fields and find what interests him. It's not always going to be about the money. You think teachers do it for the money? Teachers with Masters degrees often make less than someone in a management position with just a bachelors. As I said, with my EdS I will still make less than James who never finished college. It's not as uncommon as you suggest.

Bottom line, don't always think about the money. You can survive on a minimum income if you know how to manage your money. Do what you enjoy doing, and the only way to find that is to take different courses in different areas, or as to work in different fields as an intern or apprentice. Looking around on the internet is most likely not going to find you what you like to do.

life is tough and competition exists, but a good degree will only insure you're place in life. a degree shows an employer that you are disciplined enough and have good work ethics.

imagine i am an employer. i wanna hire a good worker. i now ask the guy, are you a good worker? if he says no, he doesn't get the job, but if he lies, he gets it. so he will lie. and i get stuck with a bad worker. so how do i filter out the idiots? i ask, can you at least get through school? if so, prove it.

so if there are so many applicants for jobs as you claim, then it would make sense that the employer would choose the most qualified. so having a degree gives you an edge on your peers. the idea of being too qualified doesn't exist anymore, people are settling for lower salaries. i can't think of one instance where having a degree is not beneficial. not to mention you get to go away to school, meet people, party, etc... :)

[Savage_Messiah]

very rarely does a professional's job become outsourced. you can't outsource a doctor or a professor


life is tough and competition exists, but a good degree will only insure you're place in life. a degree shows an employer that you are disciplined enough and have good work ethics.

imagine i am an employer. i wanna hire a good worker. i now ask the guy, are you a good worker? if he says no, he doesn't get the job, but if he lies, he gets it. so he will lie. and i get stuck with a bad worker. so how do i filter out the idiots? i ask, can you at least get through school? if so, prove it.

so if there are so many applicants for jobs as you claim, then it would make sense that the employer would choose the most qualified. so having a degree gives you an edge on your peers. the idea of being too qualified doesn't exist anymore, people are settling for lower salaries. i can't think of one instance where having a degree is not beneficial. not to mention you get to go away to school, meet people, party, etc... :)

Overqualification happens all the time, it happened twice to a friend of mine who had a master's and was a history teacher. And nobody suggested to Matt to become a doctor or professor.



And are you really being stupid enough to say that idiots won't get through school, and that if someone does get through they're not?!?!?! If so you have one hell of an awakening coming your way.

[qwikz28]

Overqualification happens all the time, it happened twice to a friend of mine who had a master's and was a history teacher. And nobody suggested to Matt to become a doctor or professor.



And are you really being stupid enough to say that idiots won't get through school, and that if someone does get through they're not?!?!?! If so you have one hell of an awakening coming your way.

oh no i meant that lazy people with bad work ethics dont get through school.

[BonzoHansen]

When there are unionized teaching positions involved, there are union bargained salary points. If you plan on being a public school teacher you need to get tenure before you get advanced degrees like a masters. Budgets do not allow districts to hire people high up the scale when there are qualified people at a cheaper price.

[Savage_Messiah]

oh no i meant that lazy people with bad work ethics dont get through school.

What about those people that lose all motivation, there's nothing they want to do with their lives at the school, so leave so that they're not wasting money on the schooling when they don't know what they want to major in... then once finding what they want to do, need financial licenses as opposed to a college degree and so have no need or desire to go back?

[ShitOnWheels]

very rarely does a professional's job become outsourced. you can't outsource a doctor or a professor


life is tough and competition exists, but a good degree will only insure you're place in life. a degree shows an employer that you are disciplined enough and have good work ethics.

imagine i am an employer. i wanna hire a good worker. i now ask the guy, are you a good worker? if he says no, he doesn't get the job, but if he lies, he gets it. so he will lie. and i get stuck with a bad worker. so how do i filter out the idiots? i ask, can you at least get through school? if so, prove it.

so if there are so many applicants for jobs as you claim, then it would make sense that the employer would choose the most qualified. so having a degree gives you an edge on your peers. the idea of being too qualified doesn't exist anymore, people are settling for lower salaries. i can't think of one instance where having a degree is not beneficial. not to mention you get to go away to school, meet people, party, etc... :)

Imagine I'm an employer. I have 2 candidates with equal work histories, just one has a PhD and one has a Masters. The PhD is asking for $20k more per year than the MA. The big boss is worried about profit. Everything else being equal, which would I pick? The one I can pay less to, so my boss is happy, no doubt.

It happens all the time. My dad tried to get his friend into his company...the friend was told he was overqualified for the position and wouldn't hire him. And he only had a BA I believe, but a ton of experience.

Go take a look at graduate school application statistics. There are often 200 applicants for 3 spots at many universities just to study there. Assume those at least 100 of those people actually have a decent application to be considered, and those 100 do find a placement somewhere. You know have 100 graduates in a few years time looking for work, of which exists only a few spots in academia. Multiply that by the number of schools in the US for that program, and you see the problem.

Having a BA will open more doors than a HS diploma or GED will. We've established that. Often, an MA will open more doors than a BA. But a PhD is not always going to open more doors than an MA. A good degree will NOT ensure you a good place in life. It could, and more often than not probably will. But it is not the only thing that will get you anywhere.

Still don't believe me, go to the LiveJournal community applyingtograd and ask about job prospects for certain fields. Or look at the memories as I believe there have been many posts about it (I'm a member, I used it to help me when I applied to grad school and I continue to help when I can).

There are a few professions where the competition isn't as rough. In school psychology (my field), the baby boomers will be retiring soon, and there is a dire need in many areas of the country for school psychs. Not many people want to work in the schools, so there aren't many people in grad school for this position (must have a grad degree to be a school psych). That's the only profession I'm sure of though, since I"m living through it now. And yes, other professions will have the baby boomers retiring shortly, but many of those professions already have an influx of competent replacements, often too many for a relatively small number of positions.

[qwikz28]

What about those people that lose all motivation, there's nothing they want to do with their lives at the school, so leave so that they're not wasting money on the schooling when they don't know what they want to major in... then once finding what they want to do, need financial licenses as opposed to a college degree and so have no need or desire to go back?

IMO lack of desire = lazy... feel free to disagree but thats my stance. i have no desire to continue writing this paper but i got kids to feed so i'm gonna finish it.

[qwikz28]

Imagine I'm an employer. I have 2 candidates with equal work histories, just one has a PhD and one has a Masters. The PhD is asking for $20k more per year than the MA. The big boss is worried about profit. Everything else being equal, which would I pick? The one I can pay less to, so my boss is happy, no doubt.

It happens all the time. My dad tried to get his friend into his company...the friend was told he was overqualified for the position and wouldn't hire him. And he only had a BA I believe, but a ton of experience.

Go take a look at graduate school application statistics. There are often 200 applicants for 3 spots at many universities just to study there. Assume those at least 100 of those people actually have a decent application to be considered, and those 100 do find a placement somewhere. You know have 100 graduates in a few years time looking for work, of which exists only a few spots in academia. Multiply that by the number of schools in the US for that program, and you see the problem.

Having a BA will open more doors than a HS diploma or GED will. We've established that. Often, an MA will open more doors than a BA. But a PhD is not always going to open more doors than an MA. A good degree will NOT ensure you a good place in life. It could, and more often than not probably will. But it is not the only thing that will get you anywhere.

Still don't believe me, go to the LiveJournal community applyingtograd and ask about job prospects for certain fields. Or look at the memories as I believe there have been many posts about it (I'm a member, I used it to help me when I applied to grad school and I continue to help when I can).

There are a few professions where the competition isn't as rough. In school psychology (my field), the baby boomers will be retiring soon, and there is a dire need in many areas of the country for school psychs. Not many people want to work in the schools, so there aren't many people in grad school for this position (must have a grad degree to be a school psych). That's the only profession I'm sure of though, since I"m living through it now. And yes, other professions will have the baby boomers retiring shortly, but many of those professions already have an influx of competent replacements, often too many for a relatively small number of positions.

we're arguing the same point. only i am adding the variable that those said "overqualified" applicants who are asking for more money will eventually accept a less paying job because of the abundance of applicants... now answer me this, for the same salary, would you rather have a PhD or a masters applicant? in this instance, having a higher degree will come to your benefit.

[BonzoHansen]

One other point about 'overqualified'. A lot of companies won't hire someone they percieve as overqualified because they think the applicant will just leave as soon as they find another (better) position. Hiring costs, both hard and soft, are very high.

[12secondv6]

I still think porn star is a good idea

[BonzoHansen]

I still think porn star is a good idea

There are certain qualifications for that...

[qwikz28]

There are certain qualifications for that...

darn it...

[BonzoHansen]

darn it...

Hey, maybe you got the goods. Ask Ian, I think he is a talent scout. Or a fluffer.

[79CamaroDiva]

Don't worry about a 6 figure job, worry about enjoying what you do, and making enough to support yourself and eventually your family.. There's no point in having a 6 figure salary if you dispise going to work. Right now, I love both my jobs. I don't bring home a 6 figure salary, but i can't imagine sacrificing the fun i have at work for more money.

[Savage_Messiah]

Don't worry about a 6 figure job, worry about enjoying what you do, and making enough to support yourself and eventually your family.. There's no point in having a 6 figure salary if you dispise going to work. Right now, I love both my jobs. I don't bring home a 6 figure salary, but i can't imagine sacrificing the fun i have at work for more money.

best point made

[Savage_Messiah]

IMO lack of desire = lazy... feel free to disagree but thats my stance. i have no desire to continue writing this paper but i got kids to feed so i'm gonna finish it.

The more I saw how the MAJORITY of people that had music as their career were, and the more I was around the environment, the less I wanted to. It got to the point where it damn near killed music for me even as a hobby. What's the point in sticking that out if I was gonna be miserable and probably not even continue it as a career? The only reason to do music is a love for it, which I had when I entered school, and it became a memory by the time I left. I'm lucky that I have a love fr it again now that I'm out of there. I didn't want to have to sacrifice to work in a field that I had no more passion for.

[Knipps]

i'm going for my pharm. d because i wanted something to do with chemistry/medicine
a ton of work and a lot of busting my *** and i'm not even sure it's what i want to do for the rest of my life

the degree leaves a lot of doors open, i can continue and go into nuclear pharmaceutics or i can work in a hospital in various departments

but, like i said, i just had to pick something..

[Ian]

Hey, maybe you got the goods. Ask Ian, I think he is a talent scout. Or a fluffer.

hey! hey! hey! dont go telling people about my side job! :rofl:

[qwikz28]

The more I saw how the MAJORITY of people that had music as their career were, and the more I was around the environment, the less I wanted to. It got to the point where it damn near killed music for me even as a hobby. What's the point in sticking that out if I was gonna be miserable and probably not even continue it as a career? The only reason to do music is a love for it, which I had when I entered school, and it became a memory by the time I left. I'm lucky that I have a love fr it again now that I'm out of there. I didn't want to have to sacrifice to work in a field that I had no more passion for.

hobbies have no business in your career. it would kill it for us. we enjoy working on our cars, but imagine having to do that every day. i would hate my car if i had to see cars everyday. i would just buy a hyundai or something. i don't know, blame my ethnic parents, but i believe there is no replacement for an education... or maybe i just want you guys to call me qwikz28 esquire :lol:

[Savage_Messiah]

hobbies don't, but what can be a crappier existance than doing something you hate, loathe, or even just generally dislike every day? You gotta like what you're doing.

[Mike]

some types of law enforcement

:wink:8-)

[Savage_Messiah]

Some thing I have said could possibly be miscontrued so I'm just gonna say now: I am not saying nobody shoudl go to school, that it doesn't help, or that it doesn't work. I am just saying that it's not for everybody, is not required to make any amount of money, and is not the be-all-end-all that people often make it out to be. Every field is different.

[Rich189]

:wink:8-)

i made over 68k so far this year and im making 17k less (salary wise) then mike is cuz i havent gone through the academy yet

[jims69camaro]

at my last job, i made $50k a year as a middle manager - no college. it all depends on work experience. now, is $50k six figures? no, but it's halfway there. had i not been injured at the workplace i think i would be very near 100k per year. every job i accepted was a step up (within the same job field, mgmt). to me, it didn't matter what the people under me did; my art was in how to get the best work from them.

so, what i am saying is, i doubt you will walk into the working world making 100k. don't let that discourage you, as if you choose the right field, you could work your way up to making 100k in less than ten years.

[jims69camaro]

hobbies have no business in your career. it would kill it for us. we enjoy working on our cars, but imagine having to do that every day. i would hate my car if i had to see cars everyday. i would just buy a hyundai or something. i don't know, blame my ethnic parents, but i believe there is no replacement for an education... or maybe i just want you guys to call me qwikz28 esquire :lol:


music is different. a true love for music can transcend everything... actually, now that i think about it, a true love for anything will push you through, no matter what.

we all know that kid in our neighborhood that used to love cars so much he could tell you what car was coming down the road just by listening to it. he became a mechanic, and he works like crazy, doing crazy hours and when he comes home he works on more cars. it's a burning desire for him, not something he can control to just the weekends.

but, back to music: i have always had a love for music, but far beyond "i like this song". it was more for me in figuring out what made that song tick, what makes it work, where is the groove? and it's a burning desire that has kept with me all of my adult life. it didn't matter how bad my day was, i could come home and pick up the guitar and CREATE something or just play along with the radio and lose myself in the music. that love didn't change when i got paid to perform, but it did evolve. hell, it's constantly evolving.

so don't say hobbies have no place in the workplace. i would put a special box on the application (if it didn't exist) asking the new applicants what their hobbies were. then, during the interview, ask them about their hobby. if their eyes lit up, if they spoke with passion, then they had an edge over the other applicants. if a fire burned inside of them for a hobby, i knew i had a worker on my hands. it didn't matter what that hobby was, only that they could feel passionately about something. some hobbies often lend themselves either directly or indirectly to success in the workforce.

[The Fixer]

music is different. a true love for music can transcend everything... actually, now that i think about it, a true love for anything will push you through, no matter what.

<snip>

but, back to music: i have always had a love for music, but far beyond "i like this song". it was more for me in figuring out what made that song tick, what makes it work, where is the groove? and it's a burning desire that has kept with me all of my adult life. it didn't matter how bad my day was, i could come home and pick up the guitar and CREATE something or just play along with the radio and lose myself in the music. that love didn't change when i got paid to perform, but it did evolve. hell, it's constantly evolving.



Jim, I've got that same feeling for music; I love everything about it. I'll tell ya what though, I was in the same situation as Kasey when I went to Willy P (and yes, I was a Music major). I did two years and got burned out from the giant load of classes we had to take. While every other kid who takes 15 credits is only taking 5 classes, the music majors who took 15 credits had 7 classes, plus lessons. It's a huge amount of work. My grades slipped, and I took a semester off after practically failing out. I started hanging around my friend's shop, and he asked me what I was going to do. I said, "Well, I love cars, I think maybe I'll leave college and check into what I need to be a mechanic." He said to me "Take your most favorite thing, and leave it as your hobby. Take your second most favorite thing, and make that your career." So, I went back to Willy P, after the semester off, picked up my grades, and graduated 2.5 years later with a 3.0 and a BA in Music Ed.

I kept the cars as my favorite hobby, but I still get great satisfaction outta picking up my trumpet to play concerts, wedding gigs, and shows. And, the side $$ I make doing weddings and church services is pretty good too!

[BonzoHansen]

He said to me "Take your most favorite thing, and leave it as your hobby. Take your second most favorite thing, and make that your career." Interesting take. I agree, making your hobby your job can kill the hobby. Now, the concept of the 2nd favorite thing is interesting spin. Now how can I make $$ drinking beer.....:?:

[bad64chevelle]

hobbies have no business in your career. it would kill it for us. we enjoy working on our cars, but imagine having to do that every day. i would hate my car if i had to see cars everyday. i would just buy a hyundai or something. i don't know, blame my ethnic parents, but i believe there is no replacement for an education... or maybe i just want you guys to call me qwikz28 esquire :lol:

This man speaks of the truth. I got accepted to McPherson University in Kansas for their Automotive Restoration major. I went out there, met the teachers, hung out with some of the students, toured the shop, and worked on the one teachers Mustang with him while I was there. It was an absolutely AMAZING place. I thought I was in heaven and I was going to go there. But, being in Kansas...yeah I wasnt too sure about that. It was a real great town, I would be going through with a Minor in business and then my major would have been auto restoration (it was a 4 year school). I talked to a guy who went through the school at a restaurant about 60 miles from the school (yeah its the next town over) and he said it was the best 4 years of his life, but couldnt deal with working on cars all the time. He started another business that has nothing to do with the automotive industry. Not to mention he was rolling in a 70 SS 454 Chevelle that night, but he was a real cool guy, real down to earth. He told me to think about it long and hard before making a decision, especially since I was going to be moving there from New Jersey. Im glad I didnt go there...even though I was #2 of 13 people accepted into that program.

[JL8Jeff]

Lots of businesses are looking for ways to cut costs and hiring someone with a lesser degree for less money is almost a no brainer. Remember, the more you make, the higher your chance of being let go during lean times. And don't get sucked into middle management, they are the first to be let go. I've also said to people, if I worked on cars all day for my full time job, I wouldn't want anything to do with them on my own time. It's hard to combine a hobby with a full time job. Obviously, it can be done, just ask some of the sponsors here how they do it. But I think that's a very low percentage of people who can handle their hobby/job as the same thing.

[its Jeanne-Marie]

right now i'm rolling 5 figures in debt but i'm hoping to turn that around in 2.5 years and be in that 6 fig category........law school is spectac if it's what you love......but if you are just looking for a prestigious career or lots of money, don't even consider it

i was a finance major undergrad which i looooved but also that takes a lot of patience with stupid amortization and other annoying math things, but from what i hear from the friends i graduated with, that brings it in too.

i'm hoping to use my law degree to combine the 2, like in the business world (no litigation for me!) and maybe be that wills estates trusts planner that can also play the part of the lawyer and sign in both spots (and take in that money that would normally be split between the 2 people)

ted is almost finished with his undergrad in accounting which is another one of those fields where either you love it or hate it, luckily for him it's something he really enjoys and he is also really good at it. the firms that visit his school start in the neighborhood of 45-55 with a 10 k bonus, and that is before you sit for the CPA exam.......all in all i think together we are gonna be making some good money in the next few years hehe =)


but like everyone else said, don't even attempt to go for something you don't have a passion for, because most likely you will not stick with it, or if you are able to suffer through you will be miserable.......for...ev....er

[Teds89IROC]

I agree with keeping your hobby out of the workplace. I love working on my car but if I had to do it everyday I'd hate it. I like how if the camaro is broken, I can spend a few hours fixing or trying to fix it and when I get sick of it, close the garage door and go home lol. As for a salary, picking a profession because of the money you could make is dumb. As others said, take various courses and figure out what you like. Since junior HS I thought I wanted to be a mechanical engineer. I got through 2 years of school studying physics, chemistry, calculus etc and I hated it towards the end. I just found myself not caring for the material and my grades slipped. JM at the time was studying finance and after looking at some of her books I thought maybe I'd take some business courses and see how I liked it. Long story short, I took an accounting class and I loved it. I'm now at willy p and I'll be graduating next December. Firms are always in my school looking for accounting majors and they've been offered 45-55k starting salaries right out of school and thats just a BS in accounting. Once you go take the CPA exam and pass, the salary will or will almost double.

[alamantia]

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[Ian]

I fix cars for a living. when I first started, I got a little burned out and didnt really like messing with cars on my free time. Now its a slightly different story.at work, its basically just up keep work. oil changes, brakes and tune ups, steering racks and ac evaporators...things of that nature. not the most fun things in the world, but it gives me a certain sense of pride that I know how to do all that. plus its also fun for me to try and figure out whats wrong with a car when the customer drops it off. its a real PITA some times, but again, I feel a little bit better about myself knowing that I can figure things like that out.

now as far the "car hobby" goes...I still love it! I cant wait until spring to really tear into my car. thinking about the 1LE brake upgrade and the LT1/T56 swap get me pumped. I know I'll be cursing about it come spring time, but in the end I'll have a grin ear-to-ear.

do I make a lot of money doing what I do? no, not really.I'm not flat rate, so that takes a big chunk out of it.and I work for a very small dealership, so that takes a little more out of it. but do I like where I work? absolutely! the people I work with are great, the service writers and parts counter guys are easy to get along with (and thats saying a lot!). I even like the owner too.

it also helps that I have full heath and dental benefits, plus two weeks of paid vacation.

[BonzoHansen]

I lost my best tech to a Jeep dealer. At my place he was between $65k and $85k a year (plus benefits & ESOP), depending on business. W/I one year at Jeep he was around 100k. He found that was good at rebuilding those junky Jeep transmissions. IIRC, he told me warranty labor was ~8 hours R&R and he could knock out 2 a day. The service writers loved him for that too, so they fed him work. He was no ordinary tech – I swear he could have fixed the space shuttle if it landed on route 9 – and he had an excellent work ethic.

[Untamed]

It would be very easy just to echo what everyone has said, but let me add another thought.

People often work at jobs / companies on their way to something they are aiming at. They'll spend a few years learning the ropes, earning their certificates, and getting experience doing things that may not be exactly what they want to do as a career, but have an impact on where they may work when they end up in a career position. A good example is Federal Law Enforcement.

Very few Fed Law Enforcement organizations recruit right out of school - its almost impossible these days. If you aim at the FBI, they'll flat out tell you to go work somewhere until you are 30, then get in line with everyone else trying to get in. So prospective candidates choose jobs / companies that will help them get valuable skills and experience, while looking good on the resume. That path could be 10-15 years before ever being granted the first of many interviews / tests.

Using the example above, you'll want to think about where you ultimately want to end up, then work backwards looking at a job path that will make you qualified and stand out when it comes time to pursue your "dream career". School is the first step, but keeping your mind on where you want to be a few years down the road, is essential to making the right (or at least the best) job decisions right after school.

Making lots of money seems great - just remember you have to work for it.

[mtnhopper1]

don't search by solely income. it depends on what you like. i'm applying to law school next year but have no intention of practicing law for a very long time. if i could do it over, i probably would have done mechanical engineering. neither are really guaranteed "six-figure jobs" because it all depends on the job you get.

fart around on salary.com and remember, salary is directly proportional with how much schooling you get. a college grad will make far less then a ph.d grad. unfortunately for us, a bachelor degree doesn't get you where it used to :(

Alot of lawyers don't make 100K. In fact, in alot of newly minted lawyers in NYC don't make 75K. It depends on one of two things: which school you go to (and how well you do), and/or how hard you work once you get out.

Don't go by "average" income figures, because the high end of the spectrum is MUCH higher than the low end. Starting salaries range from 35K - 200K. Most are closer to 60-75K.

The best advice I can give someone thinking of law school: Study your *** off for the LSAT. Do practice exams until your brain bleeds. Take primer classes. Then do some more practice exams. Then apply only to the big schools. You're going to pay through the teeth for law school even if you go to a crappy school, and having gone to a reputable school is worth the extra expense. It will make it that much easier to get the big $$$ employers to look at your resume. If you don't score well on the LSAT, you'll just have to work that much harder to find a job when you graduate.

How much you earn as a lawyer is directly related to how much business you can generate. If you sit on your behind doing projects for other lawyers/partners, you can only make good $ in a bigger firm (in which case you need good credientials). If you can drum up your own business, you can make good $ working from home in your PJs. Either way, expect to work your *** off.

If I could do it over, I'd also go for an engineering degree. I might do that anyways, if I can convince my wife to pay the rent for 4-5 years. :mrgreen:

BTW, I don't think education is always proportionate to salary. It is in most cases, but not always. When I graduated from college, I looked into getting a PhD in Literature, until I found out my profs made less than I did as a bartender. That's why I went to law school. :nod:

[qwikz28]

Alot of lawyers don't make 100K. In fact, in alot of newly minted lawyers in NYC don't make 75K. It depends on one of two things: which school you go to (and how well you do), and/or how hard you work once you get out.

Don't go by "average" income figures, because the high end of the spectrum is MUCH higher than the low end. Starting salaries range from 35K - 200K. Most are closer to 60-75K.

The best advice I can give someone thinking of law school: Study your *** off for the LSAT. Do practice exams until your brain bleeds. Take primer classes. Then do some more practice exams. Then apply only to the big schools. You're going to pay through the teeth for law school even if you go to a crappy school, and having gone to a reputable school is worth the extra expense. It will make it that much easier to get the big $$$ employers to look at your resume. If you don't score well on the LSAT, you'll just have to work that much harder to find a job when you graduate.

How much you earn as a lawyer is directly related to how much business you can generate. If you sit on your behind doing projects for other lawyers/partners, you can only make good $ in a bigger firm (in which case you need good credientials). If you can drum up your own business, you can make good $ working from home in your PJs. Either way, expect to work your *** off.

If I could do it over, I'd also go for an engineering degree. I might do that anyways, if I can convince my wife to pay the rent for 4-5 years. :mrgreen:

BTW, I don't think education is always proportionate to salary. It is in most cases, but not always. When I graduated from college, I looked into getting a PhD in Literature, until I found out my profs made less than I did as a bartender. That's why I went to law school. :nod:

i never said i was interested in six figure salaries ;) i just wanna be a lawyer. i've been studying for the lsat since june, and am taking it next june. i scored in the 30th percentile of what people score on teh real exam on my diagnostic. i wanna be the one to decide my law school. a good job is more important to me than a high paying job if that makes any sense

[BonzoHansen]

BTW, I don't think education is always proportionate to salary. It is in most cases, but not always. When I graduated from college, I looked into getting a PhD in Literature, until I found out my profs made less than I did as a bartender. That's why I went to law school. :nod:
I found the scale for profs is very dependent on the courses you teach (supply & demand). So a high end math prof might make double what a business prof makes, with equal education (both PhD). And the schedule is almost impossible to beat! Don’t forget tenure. I was an adjunct for a while at TCNJ – being a prof >>> teaching K-12! So much less crap to deal with. If I didn’t have a kid & mortgage, when I was laid off from the insurance company I would have tried to get my PhD and live the high life. LOL


I find I the business world that education/credentials & salary generally (exceptions always exist) trend together within a give occupation. So you can’t compare a contractor to a lawyer, for instance.

[Ian]

I lost my best tech to a Jeep dealer. At my place he was between $65k and $85k a year (plus benefits & ESOP), depending on business. W/I one year at Jeep he was around 100k. He found that was good at rebuilding those junky Jeep transmissions. IIRC, he told me warranty labor was ~8 hours R&R and he could knock out 2 a day. The service writers loved him for that too, so they fed him work. He was no ordinary tech – I swear he could have fixed the space shuttle if it landed on route 9 – and he had an excellent work ethic.

one of my teachers at school used to be a tech at a Ford dealership in montana. his dealership had a fleet contract with either the county or state, I forget which. He was fully certified and was paid flat rate. he told me he used to make about 125K a year....in MONTANA!!!! the cost of living there is WAY lower than jersey, he must have been living very comfortably.

[BonzoHansen]

he told me he used to make about 125K a year....in MONTANA!!!! the cost of living there is WAY lower than jersey, he must have been living very comfortably.I'd trade what I have for that in a heartbeat.

[Ian]

I'd trade what I have for that in a heartbeat.

yeah so would I :?

[PolarBear]

hobbies don't, but what can be a crappier existance than doing something you hate, loathe, or even just generally dislike every day? You gotta like what you're doing.

:werd:

I have been there a few times already but I also agree with


He said to me "Take your most favorite thing, and leave it as your hobby. Take your second most favorite thing, and make that your career."

If you do what you love for someone else you will get burned out if you work hard and do not get recognized for it. Pick something that you think you can do every day, or that you are really good at. I am at that point again where I am starting to hate what I do, and it can really eat at you every day. Sometimes its like WTF do I even get up in the morning for?!?
A bit from Sienfeld
KRAMER (in disgust): Look at you.

GEORGE: Aw, Kramer, don't start...

KRAMER (moving back to the othe side of the booth): You're wasting your life.

GEORGE: I am not! What you call wasting, I call living! I'm living my life!

KRAMER: O.K., like what? No, tell me! Do you have a job?

GEORGE: No.

KRAMER: You got money?

GEORGE: No.

KRAMER: Do you have a woman?

GEORGE: No.

KRAMER: Do you have any prospects?

GEORGE: No.

KRAMER: You got anything on the horizon?

GEORGE: Uh...no.

KRAMER: Do you have any action at all?

GEORGE: No.

KRAMER: Do you have any conceivable reason for even getting up in the morning?

GEORGE: I like to get the Daily News!

[PolarBear]

I'd trade what I have for that in a heartbeat.

Ill take what you have now...... :drool:

[1QWIKBIRD]

One thing to remember through all of this is that no matter what you ultimately end up doing, an education/specialized training will never hold you back, but the lack of these could limit your future.

Get the grades in high school, go to college, finish ASAP and get to work.

Take real courses in college, don't go the easy road with bullsh%t electives. Take courses you have an interest in, take courses that challenge the mind to understand the world around you.

Look at people around you who you deem to be successful and ask them questions. How did they get to their current position in life? Regrets? I bet the number one regret is not getting more education/training in one form or another.

Chris

[WayFast84]

first favorite thing would be hockey, second would be cars. But theres id ever be a good tech...

[BonzoHansen]

first favorite thing would be hockey, second would be cars. But theres id ever be a good tech...

You have a better shot at being a decent tech then you do a pro hockey player.

[WayFast84]

You have a better shot at being a decent tech then you do a pro hockey player.

i dont want to be a pro hockey player.

Do you guys think a decent school like UTI or wyotech could turn me the master of disaster into an ok tech?

[Predator86]

Do you guys think a decent school like UTI or wyotech could turn me the master of disaster into an ok tech?

Well "technically" all u need to do is get a year of schooling and a year of in feild experience or 2 years of either and pass the 8 ASE tests (I think it might be 9 now)...and then your considered an ASE certified master technician!

im less than a year away!!!

[Ian]

i dont want to be a pro hockey player.

Do you guys think a decent school like UTI or wyotech could turn me the master of disaster into an ok tech?

sure, just pay attention and ask questions if you dont understand something. a kid I went to school with at Wyotech knew nothing about cars and is making a very decent living as a honda tech in Mass.

Well "technically" all u need to do is get a year of schooling and a year of in field experience or 2 years of either and pass the 8 ASE tests (I think it might be 9 now)...and then your considered an ASE certified master technician!

im less than a year away!!!

its only 8 tests. the ninth one is L1, advanced engine performance. you only need that to inspect cars. or you can just take the inspection class. I havent gotten around to that yet.

[Savage_Messiah]

i dont want to be a pro hockey player.

Do you guys think a decent school like UTI or wyotech could turn me the master of disaster into an ok tech?

For all we knock on you, look hwo far you've come from where you started... and how many other people your age have the mechanical knowledge you have?

[mtnhopper1]

i never said i was interested in six figure salaries ;) i just wanna be a lawyer. i've been studying for the lsat since june, and am taking it next june. i scored in the 30th percentile of what people score on teh real exam on my diagnostic. i wanna be the one to decide my law school. a good job is more important to me than a high paying job if that makes any sense

That's a good attitude to have about it. I went in with a pretty clear idea about what kind of law I wanted to practice. It took me two miserable years at a job I hated (making crap $$, BTW) to finally get to do it. Now I'm doing what I want and I'm making decent coin. Best of both worlds.

I'm sure you hear this all the time from people who went through it, but it's alot harder than you think. Basically, get ready to go from being a top-tier student in college (like most law students were) to working you a-- off just to be average. That was my experience, anyways. It set off a bit of an identity crisis. No big deal, but it takes a little getting used to how competitive it is. It doesn't end when you get a job either.

When it comes to law school, you either "get it" or you don't. Hopefully you'll be one of the fortunate few who have the natural talent to play the game. In that case, you can pretty much choose your path. If you don't have the talent, you'll end up somewhere in the irrelevant "bottom 90%." In that case, having a good school on your resume makes it much eaiser to deal with.

[EchoMirage]

journey pipefitters make 90K a year. any overtime, or general foremans rate will put you easily over 100K. dont forget to take into account taxes. just making 100K on the books doesnt mean you can take home 100K.

[its Jeanne-Marie]

I'm sure you hear this all the time from people who went through it, but it's alot harder than you think. Basically, get ready to go from being a top-tier student in college (like most law students were) to working you a-- off just to be average. That was my experience, anyways. It set off a bit of an identity crisis. No big deal, but it takes a little getting used to how competitive it is. It doesn't end when you get a job either.



this is me this semster. exactly. lol....deeeefinitely a huge reality check, but it was also really nice to see all the arrogant buttheads who came in in august thinking they were better than everyone really being humbled by the whole experience :nod:

[79T/A]

I'm going to be a cop for my town/one of the towns around me. I heard they were changing it so that you didn't even have to go to college to enter the academy, but i think I'll still go for my bachelors.

I'm going back about four pages here, but a word of advice to you or anyone else who wants to get into law enforcement: Put yourself through the academy. Treat it like college. You'll have to shell out a few thousand clams, but most likely you'll have a job before you graduate. A bachelor's degree is an excellent idea and will definitely help you if you decide to go for promotions, but getting on The Job has gotten really competitive over the last ten years.

There are two basic ways to go about it: There are the State Department of Personnel tests and the 'Chief's Tests.' Basically, the DOP test is governed by the State and you basically end up in a pool based on which counties and branches (Municipal Police, Corrections, State Forest Ranger) you're willing to work in. There are a lot of people out there running classes to help you pass this exam, but there are also a lot of people taking this exam. Combine that with the fact that the veterans of our armed forces (God bless them all) get a substantial amount of points to put them at the top of their list, and with a war going on and troops coming home and looking for cop jobs, the competition's tough.

As far as the Chief's test goes, well, the municipalities that don't go with the DOP basically give their own tests. Outside private agencies make the tests and again, there are people out there that give classes.

The latest trend is that police chiefs are now taking resumes from people who have either worked in other departments or put themselves through the academy and hiring them. It saves the department time (Takes about six months to complete the academy) and money (Costs the town money to send a recruit). I'm not guaranteeing you'll get a job if you just put yourself through, but your chances will be far better. I know a guy who had three different departments calling him while he was in the academy.

The most important thing you need to consider in this field is this: Are you absolutely sure you want to commit to this career, or are you just doing it for easy money and a pension? I'm seven years in now and still love what I do, but my father just retired after twenty five years of being bitter and miserable. He can easily look back and say, "I should have..." While there are the occasional foot pursuits and car chases and whatnot, the job isn't like you see on TV. It's stressful, and if you plan on being a family man, it can be difficult. I know at least three guys in my department alone going through divorces after extremely short marriages.

I don't have any regrets, and last year I was able to make just over $100k (A whole lot of O.T. and traffic jobs). I'm in a bureau with work that suits me and my coworkers are awesome. It has its bad days like any other job, but the good far outweighs the bad for me.

[Mike]

six months for the academy? more like 4 (16 weeks)

[cdubbzz]

What professions have 6 figure incomes? I have to start thinking about what I want to do so I figures ill start with the most lucrative professions and move downwards in the pay scale till something intrigues me.

Here's my .02.... coming from a guy who is completely maximizing the dollar to intelligence ratio..or is it intelligence to dollar ratio? Anyway.....

There's plenty $$$ in "Sales" but it's a progression and not overnight success

1. Need to work you're way up meaning you'll need to start basic like retail and advance career over time to bigger/better/higher paying companies
2. Find something you like (Technology/Pharmaceutical etc) and work for the best company for the industry they're in. You'll never become wealthy working for a mom/pop shop, you'll have a better chance seeing green when the company you work for is seeing BIG green
3. Don't settle for less. Seize opportunities when they come your way and don't sell yourself short. Those that settle in life and accept mediocrity tend to be the same people who tell me I'm "lucky" to have the life I have..I prefer to think the choices I've made got me to where I am....not luck.

By not settling over a 10yr period I went from making $30k a year to $175k

...I chose technology :)

[12secondv6]

Sigh.... I guess I should make a sensible post also.....


You can't base your decision on just a 6 figure salary.

You need to factor in benifits and perks.

Some of the perks in my job are company cars. I have a $55,000 company car sitting in my driveway. Every 4-5 weeks I get a new car. It can range from a lowly 2008 C300 which is $35,000 to a 2008 CL550 which is $120,000+

In the past month I've had:
2007 E350
2007 GL450
2007 CLS550
2007 SL550
Just turned in the wife's 2007 SLK280

I've leased:
2003 C230
2006 E350
2007 E350
2007 SLK280

Then benifits.... they are damn good

401K - really good

Incredible lease/ purchase prices on mercedes-benz cars and trucks

Employee discounts on chrysler, jeep and dodge vehicles

Got a huge discount on the following:
2004 dodge neon
2003 jeep liberty
2007 chrysler sebring vert

Accessories discounts

Service discounts

I've been sent to race 500 HP Mercedes amg's at race tracks

I've gotten my hands on 1/2 million dollar cars (SLR and Maybach)

Getting back stage access to the jacob javits auto show.... working the auto show.... and going in before it is open to the public (press day)

My list can go on and on......


Don't focus just on a salary..... there can be many other perks for your job that outweigh the $$$$

[band77one]

you could become a hitman.

[79T/A]

six months for the academy? more like 4 (16 weeks)

Four for corrections or municipal classes run at Seagirt. I went 22 weeks, end of August through December. A little less than six months, but close.

[jimmyboy8301]

there are no municipal classes run at seagirt, the monmouth county police academy is in freehold.

[mtnhopper1]

this is me this semster. exactly. lol....deeeefinitely a huge reality check, but it was also really nice to see all the arrogant buttheads who came in in august thinking they were better than everyone really being humbled by the whole experience :nod:

You are 1L?

Quick! What's the rule against perpetuities? Explain. :banghead:

I wonder if they realize that "Explain" is NOT a question!!!

I don't envy you.

Seriously, though. Humbling it is. The hardest thing for me was to wake up every day and try to convince myself not to hitchhike to Islamorada to become a coconut farmer.

[98tadriver]

no you don't .. construction is dead... there is so much crap in that field that you don't even know or want to know about .. in about 2 years it'll pick back up ..

Now that all depends on what area you live in, with the towers going up in AC, they said they will have work for the next 10yrs, the racetrack in millville has started a lil while ago, theres 3 different phases to that if i remember correctly, and i believe they said that would be a good 5 years worth of work. theres more than that going on down here in the south, but those are just 2 things i could think of off the top of my head.

[EVIL90SS]

drug dealer....