Nissan GTR tested 0-60, 1/4 mile

[12secondv6]

:shock::shock:
And the results were done on a crappy airport runway!

Just wait for track prep!

Then boost controller!?!?

http://www.fquick.com/blog/GT-R_No_Joke__Viper_and_Z06_Need_to_Up_Their_Game/1070

[Tru2Chevy]

It will be interesting to see how it stacks up in real comparo's on the same surface in the same weather with the likes of Z06, Viper, and whatever else they decide to throw at it....

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

interested in seeing a price tag comparison too. the Z06 has been the king of bang for the super car buck for a long time. is it possible that there is finally a challenger to that thrown?

[Teds89IROC]

I agree with Justin and Tim

[misterjuice]

it's no neon.

[SteveR]

Not too shabby. I'm curious to see how durable it is too. Hopefully they designed it to handle more power than what its built with. I wander if it can handle some slicks and a lot of track time. All they need to do now is create a factory aftermarket for it like they did with the original NISMO and it should do pretty good.

[qwikz28]

7:50 in the N-ring, similarly a Z06 did 7:49 in similar track conditions. that thing has balls

[Frosty]

interested in seeing a price tag comparison too. the Z06 has been the king of bang for the super car buck for a long time. is it possible that there is finally a challenger to that thrown?

Motor Trend said it's the Z06 killer because the price tag will be lower than the current Z06. However they also said the car will run something like 11.7 at 149 :rolleyes:

I'm curious to see what it stacks up, however the ZR1 will own the road when it comes out.

[NJSPEEDER]

the ZR1 isn't really a bang for the buck super car like the ZO6 is. they are talking about close to double the price tag to go from ZO to ZR.
it will depend on how much less the nissan is than the ZO6 and if the ful spec car will ever see the road in north america in volume. remember, gm doesn't restrict production on teh ZO6. if dealers/buyers order it, chevy will build it. that has beenone of the knocks on most of the cars that companies try to challenge the ZO6 with, even if they are in teh ballpark on price or perforamnce, they are limited production vehicles.

[SteveR]

the ZR1 isn't really a bang for the buck super car like the ZO6 is. they are talking about close to double the price tag to go from ZO to ZR.
it will depend on how much less the nissan is than the ZO6 and if the ful spec car will ever see the road in north america in volume. remember, gm doesn't restrict production on teh ZO6. if dealers/buyers order it, chevy will build it. that has beenone of the knocks on most of the cars that companies try to challenge the ZO6 with, even if they are in teh ballpark on price or perforamnce, they are limited production vehicles.

Thats a good point, the Skyline GTR was never even an official release here in the US, but you could have it imported for a really high price.

[slasherbarb]

always been a fan of Skylines, and this one makes me :drool: more than any other generation!!! like they said, Nissan got it right...

[Savage_Messiah]

thats one hell fo a g35!! err... 36.... r um no, 37?? :lol:

[Frosty]

the ZR1 isn't really a bang for the buck super car like the ZO6 is. they are talking about close to double the price tag to go from ZO to ZR.


It depends, it's going to depend on what the dealers mark the ZR1 up to.

[GP99GT]

fast, but i still think its ugly

[chemicalstylez]

It did have the G35 look for sure. Prolly won't ever see it in the US though.

[Slow 88]

Damn, that is pretty damn impressive!

[keith2717]

Hmmm!

[Savage_Messiah]

It did have the G35 look for sure. Prolly won't ever see it in the US though.

uhm.... yeah we will.

[NJSPEEDER]

it is based on the same platform as the G35/350Z from what i have read. all of the driveline components are obviously upgraded.
i hope they bring a version with some balls to the US market. it woudl be fun to see what the magazines test be teh same as what makes it to the street from a japanese company for once.

[Ian]

:shock::shock:
And the results were done on a crappy airport runway!

Just wait for track prep!

Then boost controller!?!?

http://www.fquick.com/blog/GT-R_No_Joke__Viper_and_Z06_Need_to_Up_Their_Game/1070

yeah, then watch it spit the axles out! it may be cheaper initially, but I bet upgrades and replacement parts will cost a ton.

*edit*

just watched the vid, that thing has some wheel hop at around the 2:30 mark.

[procamaroz28]

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[98tadriver]

11.6 @ 121 on an unpreped surface with a bad launch and stock tires.


geeeezzz already starting with the silly ricer excuses..... what next? they used a gtech or a friend who claims he's running 11s to measure their times? :lol:

[qwikz28]

yeah, then watch it spit the axles out! it may be cheaper initially, but I bet upgrades and replacement parts will cost a ton.

*edit*

just watched the vid, that thing has some wheel hop at around the 2:30 mark.

yeah that car has a very complex transmission. each car must be checked by a mechanic before it hits the streets to avoid defects. i don't imagine it withstanding much more boost than stock. the wheel hop is gonna be a problem too if its as bad as in the video. i like cars that are gonna be beaten on to be as simple as possible.

either way this thing is awesome. it looks cool, has a fresh interior, and has the performance to go with it. and we should all be thankful because the big 3 are gonna step up their game with the viper, vette, and gt because of it.

[NJSPEEDER]

th transmission is supposed to be the same case and cluster as the FIA homoligated ralley cars use, jsut in a two wheel drive layout instead of all wheel drive.
i don't think the trans or final drive are in much danger, half shafts would be a different story. those suckers are doomed if it wheel hops like that all the time.

[qwikz28]

th transmission is supposed to be the same case and cluster as the FIA homoligated ralley cars use, jsut in a two wheel drive layout instead of all wheel drive.
i don't think the trans or final drive are in much danger, half shafts would be a different story. those suckers are doomed if it wheel hops like that all the time.
:shock:

[JerzLT1]

didnt someone run a 10.9 bone stock in a Z06?

[Frosty]

10.85, Ranger from LS1tech and Corvetteforum, did.

That was on drag radials though, no other mods.

[CALL911]

10.85, Ranger from LS1tech and Corvetteforum, did.

That was on drag radials though, no other mods.

And I think it was a factory freak combined with a dude that can really drive, in other words it wasn't the norm or average car like this random dude off the street with his personal GTR.

Personally I think the front ends of the GTR's are really ugly, however the backs of them look great (a lot better than the rear of the new Camaro IMO). I like my American muscle just as much as the rest of you guys, but I can't deny cheep raw power like this in mass quantities. I think its going to be the next Supra in the sense that with just a BPU (Basic Part Upgrade) from the factory (boost controller, downpipe for example) you could turn this car into a real monster.

[qwikz28]

10.85, Ranger from LS1tech and Corvetteforum, did.

That was on drag radials though, no other mods.

someone ran a 10.89 with stock tires. i wish i had the link. ranger even confirmed it.

[Knipps]

And I think it was a factory freak combined with a dude that can really drive, in other words it wasn't the norm or average car like this random dude off the street with his personal GTR.

the random dude wasn't driving, he just let them test it. it wouldnt make sense if they didn't have their own driver.

[CALL911]

the random dude wasn't driving, he just let them test it. it wouldnt make sense if they didn't have their own driver.

If its not the owner, the video made it seem as though it was as it anounces "he showed up at the air strip with his GTR" as it shows the same guy in the car that test drives it later in the video. Not that it matters much anyways since it looks like the GTR is doing most of the driving and launching compared to the skill needed to get a great launch in a Z06 (at least one capable of those fast times).

[Batman]

Besides being Butt-ugly, aren't they AWD like the R34? I'd be interested to see how reliable it is with all the problems the R34 had. I'll also bet it will cost as much or more then the Z06. To each their own but i'd rather have a car I can drive then one the computer drives for me so I don't break it.

[Savage_Messiah]

If its not the owner, the video made it seem as though it was as it anounces "he showed up at the air strip with his GTR" as it shows the same guy in the car that test drives it later in the video. Not that it matters much anyways since it looks like the GTR is doing most of the driving and launching compared to the skill needed to get a great launch in a Z06 (at least one capable of those fast times).


It says something like "he showed up at the strip and let us beat the piss out of it"

[CALL911]

It says something like "he showed up at the strip and let us beat the piss out of it"

It says exactly at 32 seconds "he showed up at the AMI airstrip outside Tokyo with his GTR" as it shows the same guy in the car that later is testing it, which is why I got the assumption it was both the owner and the driver. Again, not that it matters since the car pretty much launches itself and looks like it makes it almost effortless to launch the car hard.

[qwikz28]

Besides being Butt-ugly, aren't they AWD like the R34? I'd be interested to see how reliable it is with all the problems the R34 had. I'll also bet it will cost as much or more then the Z06. To each their own but i'd rather have a car I can drive then one the computer drives for me so I don't break it.

my thoughts exactly. technology = boring and more stuff to break. they should make a manual version as well to accomodate everyone

[NJSPEEDER]

there is a manual version, the paddle shift is an option.

[Ian]

as fancy as paddle shifters are, there's nothing quite like pulling second real hard with a regular shifter.

[stadtnw]

didnt someone run a 10.9 bone stock in a Z06?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1794944

[Demonicbird00]

this is def sick car....it will def be a low 11sec car w/ the right driver and proper conditions no doubt.

-brandon

[Predator86]

i didnt read this whole thread (too long)... but ive read up on this new nissan and all i can say is let nissan enjoy it while it lasts because if its true that it can outpeform the z06....it dosent matter because the ZR1 will just dominate it...

the corvette is back on top...it is truly a supercar now:drool:

[CALL911]

i didnt read this whole thread (too long)... but ive read up on this new nissan and all i can say is let nissan enjoy it while it lasts because if its true that it can outpeform the z06....it dosent matter because the ZR1 will just dominate it...

the corvette is back on top...it is truly a supercar now:drool:

Lol, yeah but that is the whole point. It costs less than a Z06 while still outperforming it. Even if the ZR1 outperforms the GTR, the GTR will cost TONS less.

[Featherburner]

Lol, yeah but that is the whole point. It costs less than a Z06 while still outperforming it. It has yet to be proven that the GTR outperforms the Z06 in the real world and, the GTR is not cheaper than a Z06. They can be had for the same price.

[98tadriver]

Lol, yeah but that is the whole point. It costs less than a Z06 while still outperforming it. Even if the ZR1 outperforms the GTR, the GTR will cost TONS less.

and the ZR1 will dominate most of the exotic supercars and cost less than its super expensive european opponents lol

[CALL911]

I thought the Z06 price tag was more than 70k? I guess it would depend on the dealer. As for the numbers, performance wise the GTR is putting down quicker times by the books.

You can argue that its a different story on the street, but both were tested by similar test drivers for the numbers in the magazines.

[98tadriver]

I like how the guy says it leaves the corvette and the viper in the dust :lol:

READY SET GO!!!


oh wait up guys, i have to activate my launch control!!!!

[Featherburner]

READY SET GO!!!


oh wait up guys, i have to activate my launch control!!!!

LOL. Tower am I cleared for launch?

[Tru2Chevy]

I thought the Z06 price tag was more than 70k? I guess it would depend on the dealer.

2008 Z06 MSRP is $72,125 according to Chevy's site. I believe it was $68,9xx for the first year of the C6 Z06.

- Justin

[SteveR]

LOL. Tower am I cleared for launch?

LOL contact!!!

:rofl:

[Squirrel]

someone just totalled a GTR in hong kong i believe

[CALL911]

I am all about the American Muscle, but I do have to admit that the GTR is definatly a contender and compared to the Z06 it definatly has its strong points. The Z06 looks about a million times better, even though I do find the rear of the GTR to be attractive with the taillights. The GTR does slightly out perform the Z06 and they have the same sticker price (as recenlty shown to me).

The big advantage I do see over the Z06 is that the GTR (if built like most any other Japeneese factory Turbo car) could easily handle more boost with the stock (or a larger aftermarket) Turbo's giving it a very inexpensive upgrade to gobs of extra power probable all on the stock motor. This is why Supra's are appealing to me as it has been shown time and time again that the stock motor will take enough boost to show 1,000 RWHP. This flat out amazes me, and it makes it desirable as well as who can't honestly say that they wouldn't want to throw a large Turbo on a car, and not have to touch the motor and make that kind of power. Not sure yet if the GTR's motor will take the same level of the abuse that a 2-JZE will in a Supra, but I would almost expect it to.

[Ian]

I am all about the American Muscle, but I do have to admit that the GTR is definatly a contender and compared to the Z06 it definatly has its strong points. The Z06 looks about a million times better, even though I do find the rear of the GTR to be attractive with the taillights. The GTR does slightly out perform the Z06 and they have the same sticker price (as recenlty shown to me).

The big advantage I do see over the Z06 is that the GTR (if built like most any other Japeneese factory Turbo car) could easily handle more boost with the stock (or a larger aftermarket) Turbo's giving it a very inexpensive upgrade to gobs of extra power probable all on the stock motor. This is why Supra's are appealing to me as it has been shown time and time again that the stock motor will take enough boost to show 1,000 RWHP. This flat out amazes me, and it makes it desirable as well as who can't honestly say that they wouldn't want to throw a large Turbo on a car, and not have to touch the motor and make that kind of power. Not sure yet if the GTR's motor will take the same level of the abuse that a 2-JZE will in a Supra, but I would almost expect it to.

thats not entirely correct. the "stock bottom end" of the motor can make that much power, but the top end most certainly can't.

what kind of motor is in the GTR? I only ask because the supra's 2-JZE was an inline 6 cylinder. thats why it could hold all that power, it had a lot more main caps than a V6 so the crank was supported better.

[Tru2Chevy]

Not sure yet if the GTR's motor will take the same level of the abuse that a 2-JZE will in a Supra, but I would almost expect it to.

Even if the motor can handle it, what about the rest of the drivetrain? As far as I have heard the stock Z06 drivetrain (minus maybe the clutch) has held up well to everything people have thrown at it.

- Justin

[BigAls87Z28]

thats not entirely correct. the "stock bottom end" of the motor can make that much power, but the top end most certainly can't.

what kind of motor is in the GTR? I only ask because the supra's 2-JZE was an inline 6 cylinder. thats why it could hold all that power, it had a lot more main caps than a V6 so the crank was supported better.


Its loosely based on the VQ35 3.5 V6. Its a brand new block displacing 3.8 liters. It was designed specificly for the GT-R. It was built to take large boost levels as well as handle future upgrades. Combine with twin turbo, its a powerful engine set up.
I still dont see where these numbes are coming from. Its 500lbs heavier then the Z06 with 20hp less.

[CALL911]

thats not entirely correct. the "stock bottom end" of the motor can make that much power, but the top end most certainly can't.


Yes it can. And it does as countless Supra owners have made that power level without touching the motor (top or bottom end). All it requires is a MUCH larger than factory turbo setup, along with all the fuel supporting mods, a good engine management system along with a tune and some race gas, and you have a 1,000 HP beast that is making reliable power all on the stock motor.

I'm not familiar with the GTR's engine, but I am confident it will be one that will be on similar lines as the Supra's in the sense that it will take lots more power/boost safely than what it came with from the factory.

[Ian]

Yes it can. And it does as countless Supra owners have made that power level without touching the motor (top or bottom end). All it requires is a MUCH larger than factory turbo setup, along with all the fuel supporting mods, a good engine management system along with a tune and some race gas, and you have a 1,000 HP beast that is making reliable power all on the stock motor.

I'm not familiar with the GTR's engine, but I am confident it will be one that will be on similar lines as the Supra's in the sense that it will take lots more power/boost safely than what it came with from the factory.

and here I thought they had to at least swap out cams or something. whatever, the "stock motor" 1,000hp ones have unbearable turbo lag and still run low 12's at 167mph :lol:

[Ian]

Its loosely based on the VQ35 3.5 V6. Its a brand new block displacing 3.8 liters. It was designed specificly for the GT-R. It was built to take large boost levels as well as handle future upgrades. Combine with twin turbo, its a powerful engine set up.
I still dont see where these numbes are coming from. Its 500lbs heavier then the Z06 with 20hp less.

I'd be willing to bet that the VQ based engine wont hold as much power as the 2-JZE is capable of holding. not without some hard-block and a main girdle.

[qwikz28]

I'd be willing to bet that the VQ based engine wont hold as much power as the 2-JZE is capable of holding. not without some hard-block and a main girdle.

i've also heard the vq has a weak valvtrain setup. i wonder if they remedied that as well

[CALL911]

and here I thought they had to at least swap out cams or something. whatever, the "stock motor" 1,000hp ones have unbearable turbo lag and still run low 12's at 167mph :lol:

Some guys run different heads, or change cams, however it is not needed to achive the power level. Yeah the larger the Turbo, the more the lag (and usually less usable power band).

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/07/aw-snap-first-nissan-gt-r-crash/

Someone posted up saying they thought one crashed already. It did. So much for traction control and AWD

[Knipps]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/07/aw-snap-first-nissan-gt-r-crash/

Someone posted up saying they thought one crashed already. It did. So much for traction control and AWD

All the tech. in the world can't make up for idiot drivers

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

All the tech. in the world can't make up for idiot drivers

I know but you'd think it would make it harder

[Savage_Messiah]

displacing 3.8 liters.


Win.

[Predator86]

I still dont see where these numbes are coming from. Its 500lbs heavier then the Z06 with 20hp less.

+1
i was thinking the same exact thing....

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

+1
i was thinking the same exact thing....

Part of it's the AWD, but I would think for that reason it wouldn't do as well on the Ring.

[BigAls87Z28]

AWD? What does that mean? AWD might give it better traction,but its not like the Z06 is sliding all over the road.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

AWD? What does that mean? AWD might give it better traction,but its not like the Z06 is sliding all over the road.

That's my point. The understeer and added weight from AWD should hurt it on the ring, especially when combined with less power.