Wow, I don't know what I'd do if this happened....

[Frosty]

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1924211

Oh man, there'd be some SERIOUS hell to pay. The first few pages tell the details. For the shop owner to throw up his hands and pretty much not make the situation right is crappy.

[Frosty]

Oh yeah, Josh, don't think about joy riding in the vette after you do some work to it :lol:

[deadtrend1]

I seen that over on ne3g. Thats as bad as the burn out guy from awhile ago.

[Fast92RS]

That is total BS. I really feel sorry for that guy.

[Knipps]

:shock: i'm now afraid of where i left my car...
i know the guys that work in the shop, but if something was to happen to it i feel like i'd get left out in the cold like this guy...:-?

but then again, i know none of them would borrow it for the weekend

[Predator86]

if that was me i'd goto jail for murder

[TheBandit]

if that was me i'd goto jail for murder

Seriously, this guys taking it so lightly. I would be so damn pissed.

[renxwar]

This is everywhere. The shop is about 5 minutes from my parents house (where I lived a year ago) .. This is hardly the first issue this shop has had. Another shop, the place I got my work done at, actually offers discounted dyno tunes for those who have had CAM tune hackjobs. Its unbelievable with how many bad things have come out of CAM people still go.. this may be the last straw, though.

[unstable bob gable]

That is SOOOOO f'd up! :shock:

[sweetbmxrider]

that was the craziest story i ever read. i really want to see how this turns out. that guy who owns the shop....sucks.

[97slpss]

if that was me i'd goto jail for murder


No doubt In my mind... I would murder him

[chrisfrom nj]

that sucks

[Tru2Chevy]

While the situation does certainly suck, the shop owner offered her ~$40,000 in settlement money, and offered to remove from the wrecked car any mods that weren't damaged, and reinstall them free of charge on another car that she purchased with the settlement money. And he also said that any mods that were damaged he would repair or replace as well.

He certainly never should have let the employee drive the car in the first place, but that sounds like a pretty fair offer to me.

- Justin

[Knipps]

While the situation does certainly suck, the shop owner offered her ~$40,000 in settlement money, and offered to remove from the wrecked car any mods that weren't damaged, and reinstall them free of charge on another car that she purchased with the settlement money. And he also said that any mods that were damaged he would repair or replace as well.

He certainly never should have let the employee drive the car in the first place, but that sounds like a pretty fair offer to me.

- Justin

where did you see that?
i havent read anything since ~1:30 this afternoon and there was no mention of that on there

Edit://
Posted Today, 03:38 PM
I really don't know where to begin on this, I did offer to make everything right, and my offer was unacceptable to her.

This is the greatest nightmare of everyone involved, the shop owner, the car owner, everyone. My mailbox is full of hate mail from CF members, and I understand that. My side of the story is that I tried to make everything right, and Melissa chose to go through her insurance company and take me out of the picture of being a part of the solution.

My offer to Melissa, which was declined, was that she take the approximately $40k settlement for the vehicle from my insurance company, and release the vehicle to me so that I could remove the modifications to the car and those that were salvagable could be reinstalled by us on another car, those that were not I could repair or replace to as new condition. If she had cooperated this could have all had a better ending.

Instead she demanded that she file with her insurance company (I've never heard how much they offered) and that NO parts be reused, and that she choose another shop to do all the work and some of the parts (like the sound system for example) be upgraded at the same time. Carolina Auto Masters would pay for all parts and labor. I'm just not going to pay another shop to do the work on the car, and provide all new parts when the original car had much that was reusable.

When we were in constant contact in December, Melissa assured me that her insurance company had not evaluated the car, while in fact, she had already released the car to them and it had been moved somewhere else. I have not spoken with Melissa since that time. I would have to assume that the car has long since been sold as salvage and the reusable parts gone with it.

If the car is still impounded somewhere, I'd still be more than happy to take the parts off it, transfer those to a car that Melissa provides (from the settlement from her insurance company) that are in reuseable condition, repair or replace those that are not and make everything right. But Melissa chose another route, and that was her choice. I'd hoped her insurance company would settle for enough money for her build the car back just like it was. I assume that didn't happen, but have no way to know. Melissa has not contacted me since saying she would let me know when her insurance company got in touch with her, so I've been given no chances since my last offer to do anything more for her.

From the mail I've recieved she has gotten way more than the value of the vehicle and modifications out of CAM already via lost business. And that total will continue to grow, and her nightmare and my nightmare will continue with neither of us finding a way to wake up and it all just be a bad dream.

I've been sick about what happened, I hate that it happened, and I really hoped that my offer to make everything right had been accepted by Melissa.

I do wish her the best of luck dealing with her insurance company,
-jeff

[Tru2Chevy]

where did you see that?

I read the entire thread before commenting ;)

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

I really don't know where to begin on this, I did offer to make everything right, and my offer was unacceptable to her.

This is the greatest nightmare of everyone involved, the shop owner, the car owner, everyone. My mailbox is full of hate mail from CF members, and I understand that. My side of the story is that I tried to make everything right, and Melissa chose to go through her insurance company and take me out of the picture of being a part of the solution.

My offer to Melissa, which was declined, was that she take the approximately $40k settlement for the vehicle from my insurance company, and release the vehicle to me so that I could remove the modifications to the car and those that were salvagable could be reinstalled by us on another car, those that were not I could repair or replace to as new condition. If she had cooperated this could have all had a better ending.

Instead she demanded that she file with her insurance company (I've never heard how much they offered) and that NO parts be reused, and that she choose another shop to do all the work and some of the parts (like the sound system for example) be upgraded at the same time. Carolina Auto Masters would pay for all parts and labor. I'm just not going to pay another shop to do the work on the car, and provide all new parts when the original car had much that was reusable.

When we were in constant contact in December, Melissa assured me that her insurance company had not evaluated the car, while in fact, she had already released the car to them and it had been moved somewhere else. I have not spoken with Melissa since that time. I would have to assume that the car has long since been sold as salvage and the reusable parts gone with it.

If the car is still impounded somewhere, I'd still be more than happy to take the parts off it, transfer those to a car that Melissa provides (from the settlement from her insurance company) that are in reuseable condition, repair or replace those that are not and make everything right. But Melissa chose another route, and that was her choice. I'd hoped her insurance company would settle for enough money for her build the car back just like it was. I assume that didn't happen, but have no way to know. Melissa has not contacted me since saying she would let me know when her insurance company got in touch with her, so I've been given no chances since my last offer to do anything more for her.

From the mail I've recieved she has gotten way more than the value of the vehicle and modifications out of CAM already via lost business. And that total will continue to grow, and her nightmare and my nightmare will continue with neither of us finding a way to wake up and it all just be a bad dream.

I've been sick about what happened, I hate that it happened, and I really hoped that my offer to make everything right had been accepted by Melissa.

I do wish her the best of luck dealing with her insurance company,
-jeff

the guys name is milkman on the forum. posted today, 1/27 at 3:38pm
i still think its insane to let an employee to borrow a car for a weekend, let alone abuse it in the process. crazy people.

edit//: u guys are too quick for me!

[Knipps]

I read the entire thread before commenting ;)

- Justin

like i said, i finished reading everything ~1:30 today...
then edited my post before you posted yours :-P

[Tru2Chevy]

like i said, i finished reading everything ~1:30 today...
then edited my post before you posted yours :-P

I know....I was just telling you.

For those that don't recognize the name Jeff Creech, he's the guy that did all/most of the work on the infamous red T/A for the first big import vs domestic Pinks episode. You know, the one with the red Civic that got 20 car lengths? :lol:

- Justin

[deadtrend1]

I know....I was just telling you.

For those that don't recognize the name Jeff Creech, he's the guy that did all/most of the work on the infamous red T/A for the first big import vs domestic Pinks episode. You know, the one with the red Civic that got 20 car lengths? :lol:

- Justin

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[qwikz28]

i don't like how that shop owner handled it. he is in no position to be making demands. he should be protecting his business and offering to meet her every demand. because he didn't, he will still have to pay and now is reputation is ruined. what a moron

[procamaroz28]

While the situation does certainly suck, the shop owner offered her ~$40,000 in settlement money, and offered to remove from the wrecked car any mods that weren't damaged, and reinstall them free of charge on another car that she purchased with the settlement money. And he also said that any mods that were damaged he would repair or replace as well.

He certainly never should have let the employee drive the car in the first place, but that sounds like a pretty fair offer to me.

- Justin

i agree depending how much was spent alltogether on the car that does sound reasonable, still joy riding customer's car is straight up unprofesional!!!

[Blacdout96]

That is a messed up story, but you know what, its a normal thing done at many shops, not all, but many. My mom had her car taken to Admiral Nissan for something stupid done to it, and when she got it back, the tank was empty, mind you she had a full tank. Now this was a good 10 years ago, but still, it was somethign minor to be fixed, and they went driving around town in it, AND they didnt fill the tank back up!!. If I found out someone went joyriding in my car without me knowing when it would be getting work done on it, I would burn them at the stake, and then make them refund me money and fill my tank up, and if they crashed my car, man I hope they know a good cardboard box to live in, cause Id sue them so badly, they wouldnt have two pennies to rub together!!

[Jersey_TA]

I would sue the crap out of him, and the mechanic for gross neglegance:evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evi l::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil: I would have a brand new car with the mods NEW.

[SteveR]

So basically an employee totaled the car, insurance is only paying out 40k, and the guy is trying to scam her into accepting the insurance payout, not suing, having her sign the car over to him, he takes out the "mods", installs them on a new car that she has to pay for, and he get to make money parting whats left of the car out. Amazing. Scum bag til the end.

[JerzLT1]

Josh called me to ask if he could drive my car home to make sure everything was ok.... i didnt care but it was still cool that he called and asked.

[Fast92RS]

Josh called me to ask if he could drive my car home to make sure everything was ok.... i didnt care but it was still cool that he called and asked.

I agree. Its one thing to drive the car and double check everything is running ok and another just to take the car for a joy ride. I wouldnt take the sttlement from the shop and have them take my car and make more money off the parts he could salvade of of it. They were totally wrong and she should sue for a new car.

[qwikz28]

I agree. Its one thing to drive the car and double check everything is running ok and another just to take the car for a joy ride. I wouldnt take the sttlement from the shop and have them take my car and make more money off the parts he could salvade of of it. They were totally wrong and she should sue for a new car.

its usually expected for a shop to test drive the car to make sure all is well in the vehicle.

[alamantia]

I like how in the one post the guy says that "we should hear the other side of teh story" or something to that effect. Dude... if I droped off my mint car and saw the aftermath, do you really think that another point of view makes it all better. What a putz

[bubba428]

little of topic, but not really....

Any body notice the vette owners username :rofl:

[JSPERFORMANCE]

The whole situation sucks. In my personal experience there is no reason to "enjoy" a customers car after you have completed the work the mechanic is supposed to be a professional and joy riding is not in that job description.

I try to drive customers' vehicles as little as possible. I have been rear ended in a customers car less than one mile from the shop while sitting at a red light. Although it was not my fault and I was performing a legitimate test drive, I still felt crappy about it and wound up giving all the work I just did to the customer for free. Although the car got fixed by the same body shop that I let work on my personal car and the customer was totally happy (and is still a customer, now just a better one) I would have rather it not happened at all.

It is from experiences like this that when I feel it is nessissary to drive a customers car outside of my normal 1-2 mile test route I will usually contact that customer and ask permission. If I feel the need to "enjoy my work" I have no problem asking the customer if they will go for a ride with me to give the car a beat down run. Usually they agree without hesitation but it is not a thing that is done often or without them sitting in the passenger's seat.

Basiclly, everyone screws up at some point or another, its how you deal with it that makes the difference. If the owner can find a way to make everything right and the customer is satisfied that is great and hopefully they (as a shop) can learn a lesson from this.

And Tony, I am gonna let that vette have it next time you bring it by so thered better be a full tank of premimum and a fresh set of tires on the thing!!!!! :lol: :lol: J/K!

[firebirdcrazy]

This made me sick to my stomach. I know it has been done to me that a shop has driven my car and leave my tank empty in the process. Its sickining

[renxwar]

The whole situation sucks. In my personal experience there is no reason to "enjoy" a customers car after you have completed the work the mechanic is supposed to be a professional and joy riding is not in that job description.

I try to drive customers' vehicles as little as possible. I have been rear ended in a customers car less than one mile from the shop while sitting at a red light. Although it was not my fault and I was performing a legitimate test drive, I still felt crappy about it and wound up giving all the work I just did to the customer for free. Although the car got fixed by the same body shop that I let work on my personal car and the customer was totally happy (and is still a customer, now just a better one) I would have rather it not happened at all.

It is from experiences like this that when I feel it is nessissary to drive a customers car outside of my normal 1-2 mile test route I will usually contact that customer and ask permission. If I feel the need to "enjoy my work" I have no problem asking the customer if they will go for a ride with me to give the car a beat down run. Usually they agree without hesitation but it is not a thing that is done often or without them sitting in the passenger's seat.

Basiclly, everyone screws up at some point or another, its how you deal with it that makes the difference. If the owner can find a way to make everything right and the customer is satisfied that is great and hopefully they (as a shop) can learn a lesson from this.

And Tony, I am gonna let that vette have it next time you bring it by so thered better be a full tank of premimum and a fresh set of tires on the thing!!!!! :lol: :lol: J/K!

Thats pretty standup.

Unfortunately, this is not even close to the first instance this shops screwed people over. I even took my car there to get VATs tuned out. I had an appointment and he took someone else before me. Thank god I didn't drop it off, from how it seems they take care of cars.

[NJSPEEDER]

what makes him think that she should trust CAM with her car again after what happened the first time?

regardless of if he offered to settle up for the value of the car and get another car back to the previous condition, he shoudl not be allowed to do the work. to defend himself by saying that he wouldn't want to pay someone else to do the work when he has a shop is retarded. if he ran a good shop this never would have happened in the first place.

i know every shop has issues and there are certainly misunderstandings in this world, but i wouldn't trust that clown with a huffy much less a $40k + mods car.

[Frosty]

And Tony, I am gonna let that vette have it next time you bring it by so thered better be a full tank of premimum and a fresh set of tires on the thing!!!!! :lol: :lol: J/K!


Screw that, you're only getting the Corsica :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[1_Hot_SOM_WS6]

That really sucks about that girls car!! I would be beyond pissed...there is no excuse for that!! I wouldnt trust him doing work on her car again either!!!

[1972LT1]

If I took my baby to someone to be worked on, upgraded, or painted and this happened, or it was stolen,you wouldn't hear about it. There's over a million acres in the pine barrens. Plenty of places to put some M'Fer in a whole world of pain and dig 'em a shallow grave to take a nice dirtnap.