Giants stadium autox 3/9

[EchoMirage]

sunday, starting at 8. anyone into going? maybe make it an unofficial north meet? its a test & tune, so should be more relaxed and no one is worried about points and whatnot. cost went up $5 from last year, so $45 for non-members. but its a full day (weather depending), you meet decent people and have a good time. courses arent really bad for f-bodies. there was some talk of having our own sub-class if there are enough of us there, so we'd be competing with each other, so to speak.

lets see if anyone is into going. if they want, you can meet up at my house and go from there. im only 5min away, and you can set up your car, air up or down, clean out extra stuff that you dont want to race with, etc.

[Blacdout96]

awwww man.....idk, I come back from Taiwan the 8th, so if I dont have Jet lag.....maybe, Im dying to do aome auto-xing already. anybody have any date for the actual events yet?

[EchoMirage]

so far:

sun. 3/9 test & tune
sun. 3/16
sun. 3/23 "tentative", whatever that means
sun. 3/30
sun. 4/6
fri. 4/25 am school, pm autox
fri. 5/23 same
fri. 6/6 same
sun. 6/8
fri. 7/25 am school, pm autox

they usually add a few more in august and oct. the sunday runs start at 8 (get there by 730 to be safe). the friday runs start autox at 2

[Blacdout96]

sp 3/16 will be the first race? sweet.

[ar0ck]

Count me In I'll put in for the day off at work tomorrow. I'll even bring the camera, and try to get a friend to photograph.

[198esp1]

if i can get the car back together in time, I would like to go and shake the new set up down.

[2MCHPWR]

i can't make that first one so good luck guys!
i'll be at the 3/16 one though.

[EchoMirage]

anyone else? i had hoped to get our own class running, of just f-bodies. so far it looks like just me and ar0ck, maybe kevin.

[Blacdout96]

well since we have the schedule up, try and tote it around in the lounge adn such, only so many people look at the sutocross forum, im sure theres a few more out there that want to run.

[1QWIKBIRD]

anyone else? i had hoped to get our own class running, of just f-bodies. so far it looks like just me and ar0ck, maybe kevin.

I am in, mailed my membership away today. Now I just gotta get the rear end back together, install my springs, bleed the brakes, mount/clearance my 17X11's with 315's, and mount my new seats.:shock:

Also renewed my SCCA membership for the Philly Region, looking forward to that as well.

Chris

[2MCHPWR]

sup echo - if you want all the f-bodies or NJFBOA members in the same run group, PM me and TIM to set it up in advance to get maximum participation (Friday event would be better). We can also get 20 guys to get Pocono east for a tuesday 3 hours of run time for $250 catered lunch, private instruction, etc.

[EchoMirage]

its hard enough to get people to show up at a sunday race, let alone take the day/half day off for a friday run. as much as id like to go to a real course, esp. with other f-bodies, i doubt many people would show. theyre always during the middle of the week, staring very early. i think most of the reason people just stick to drag racing is because you can just show up at a track after work, (depending on # of people there) get a few runs in, and drive home. you dont have to make an entire day out of it. pocono is at least 2hrs from me. there are people down south jersey that are looking at a 4hr+ ride. all to start at 8am? to get up and leave by what, 4am, then drive 4hrs, then race, then drive 4hrs home? its alot for people to do. the only other way is to take the day before off, and get a room or something. thats all adding up to a shytload of money, plus the day of work youd lose. id love to make somethign like this happen, but i dont think many other people on the board have the dedication and especially the money for it. even i would have gone to pocono or lime rock already if it was just easier and more convienant.

either way, id like to see how many people can show up on 3/9. just for fun, its alot cheaper and you dont have to lose work to get here. after that, we'll see how much interest there is for taking it to the next level.

[1QWIKBIRD]

If so, could somebody check the sign up list on the MSNE website? I signed up, but for some reason can't view the signup list. Not sure if it is a problem on my end or with their web service. Or maybe I got booted before it got processed?

Chris Ciatteo
Class UU
1999 Firebird

Thanks

[2MCHPWR]

only members can view the participant list:
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1995 Mazda Miata
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36 Bruce Buchner
1991 Mazda Miata
Yes Gate Control

68 Paul Moser
2002 BMW M Roady Sapphire Black
Big Balls - eXtreme Racing Yes Course

81 Chris Travis
2006 MitsuBmw EvoM5 gray blue
Yes Instructor

223 Matt Greer
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
Yes No Preference

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406 Christian Ciatteo
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2005 Infiniti G35
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1994 Paul Rein
1994 Mazda Miata Red
Yes Course

[ar0ck]

I won't be able to run this weekend, but I'm gonna go and snap some pictures!

[EchoMirage]

why not, whats wrong with the car

[ar0ck]

why not, whats wrong with the car

I'm Mass Air Sensor less for the time being.

[EchoMirage]

cant borrow one?

[Blacdout96]

I wish I could be there for the season opener, hopefully Ill be running sometime in April, I want to put a few goodies on my car first ;)

[EchoMirage]

how about the 16th

[1QWIKBIRD]

Rear is back together, Strano springs installed, brakes are bled and are bedded in, 17X11's are clearanced, alignment complete. Tomorrow at Giants' stadium is a go. Can't wait. Still have to install the race seat, but for tomorrow I'll just use my other seats. Hopefully the weather dries up enough and the temps stay right where they are at.

The springs totally change the look of the car. Definitely a major improvement in the looks dept., tomorrow we'll find out how much in the functionality dept.:nod:

Thanks to 198esp1 for letting me use your spacers for fitments and helping with the frozen upper shock bolt and Vegaken for working the pedal helping me bleed the brakes in the rain.


Chris

[2MCHPWR]

awesome dude! that this is gonna rip! can you go on 3/16 too? thats when i'm going.

[1QWIKBIRD]

awesome dude! that this is gonna rip! can you go on 3/16 too? thats when i'm going.

I plan on running all of the Sunday events (as long as no conflicts with SCCA Philly region), Fridays are tough because of work. So, I will be there on the 16th.

[2MCHPWR]

well how'd you do? kevan go too? what class you guys in?
I think you are in U!

http://heck.zenfolio.com/p592021499?photo=h3B58ED55#995683669

http://heck.zenfolio.com/p592021499?photo=h3933E1ED#959701485

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HECTOR RODRIGUEZ's pics:
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[Tru2Chevy]

Nice looking pictures!

- Justin

[1QWIKBIRD]

well how'd you do? kevan go too? what class you guys in?
I think you are in U!

http://heck.zenfolio.com/p592021499?photo=h3B58ED55#995683669

http://heck.zenfolio.com/p592021499?photo=h3933E1ED#959701485

http://heck.zenfolio.com/p592021499?photo=h2E3A012F#775553327

http://heck.zenfolio.com/p592021499?photo=h289E9070#681480304



HECTOR RODRIGUEZ's pics:
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I was there, but fighting traction all day. The Kuhmo's don't like the cold. I wasn't expection miracles, but holy hockey pucks. It was brutal. I didn't stay for 2nd set of runs in the late afternoon, thinking it was only going to get colder. Luckily I worked first thing, then raced 2nd so my work requirement was filled early.

Anyway, with ambient air temps in the low 40's and winds howling at 15mph or so, ice in the lot (not in the racing line, but in the same lot) and traction no where to be found, I made my first run and spun the wheels hard on take off (drag strip style launch probably wasn't the best idea under the conditions) and for the first 200 feet felt like I was on ice. Once I got the car rolling not too bad, but still was pushing from lack of grip up front and could have brought the @ss around at will if I wanted to. All of these actions led to a 54.something.

Second run, backed off on the launch and came out easy, but still got squirley at the first set of gates when I tried to bring the power on. Again, once I got rolling things improved and ran a 52.something.

Third run, I thought I backed off even more but then turned the gas pedal into a light switch and promptly spun the thing just past the second set of gates, stayed on course , but looped it. The looooong slow variety. Result, 59.something.

Fourth run, by now I am completely unsure how to get off the line and make it throught the first couple hundred feet, so slow and smooth led to a 53.something.

I talked with Echomirage real quick and he seemed to be having similiar issues, no traction at all.

All in all, given the condtions a decent day. I have much to learn on shock tuning, air pressure adj. etc. etc. etc. Left with a smile though and tires didn't rub anywhere so all is good.

See ya Sunday, hopefull conditions will be more favorable. I honestly think I could have done better on street tires or on my old set of RA-1's. The kuhmo's just didn't get hot enough to off the grip they are capable of.

[2MCHPWR]

what kumhos? v710?
temps this sunday should be in 50's so i hope my v710's will hold.
yes, in those cold temps, a good aggressive street tire like my falken azenis 615 would probably be better than some R comps.
The lime green Porsche (race class) 924 with 968 motor, $7k shocks and national winner/driver GJ ran a 47.5 with Toyo Proxes 888 to set FTD. The owner of the car ran low 48's but he took all his runs in a row so that was unfair heat in tires and was only allowed because its non-points event (from what I hear).

I think sometimes you can start in 2nd gear at the start in slick conditions.

[EchoMirage]

it was allowed because hes in the clique at the timing tent

[1QWIKBIRD]

it was allowed because hes in the clique at the timing tent

I thought something was a little funny. I worked the first shift in the morning and he seemed to be running like every 5 minutes or so....Oh well. No big deal.

[1QWIKBIRD]

what kumhos? v710?
temps this sunday should be in 50's so i hope my v710's will hold.
yes, in those cold temps, a good aggressive street tire like my falken azenis 615 would probably be better than some R comps.
The lime green Porsche (race class) 924 with 968 motor, $7k shocks and national winner/driver GJ ran a 47.5 with Toyo Proxes 888 to set FTD. The owner of the car ran low 48's but he took all his runs in a row so that was unfair heat in tires and was only allowed because its non-points event (from what I hear).

I think sometimes you can start in 2nd gear at the start in slick conditions.

I was on the v710's. A second gear start didn't even occur to me at the time, I'll have to add that to the tool box.

I just thought the green Porsche was a 2 driver deal, but he did seem to be out there an awful lot. Practice, so no big deal. It's not like I was gonna track him down anyway. Have times been posted? I checked, but didn't see anything. Non-points event so maybe they decided not to?

See ya Sunday.

[2MCHPWR]

i wasn't there so hard for me to judge too but it was a 2 driver car so it would seem like he kept taking lots of runs in a row. was it as often in the afternoon too?

[1QWIKBIRD]

i wasn't there so hard for me to judge too but it was a 2 driver car so it would seem like he kept taking lots of runs in a row. was it as often in the afternoon too?

I don't know? I didn't work in the afternoon. It was probably just that it was a 2-driver car. I know on one run he got red-flagged because of a dangerous situation on course, so that netted him a re-run.

That brings me to another point. The way the course was set up, there was the potential for two cars to be going head to head with out much separation and it brought out the red flag 3 or 4 times in the first session.:shock: Partly due to new drivers getting lost on course, partly due to course layout, partly due to the timing in which the cars were being released from the line, partly due to course workers "spectating" a bit, but definitely something for everyone to consider in the future and be more aware of. It was the first day out this season so I think that too was a contributing factor.

Here's hoping for sunny and 60 on Sunday

[BrandonDrecksage]

i wasn't there so hard for me to judge too but it was a 2 driver car so it would seem like he kept taking lots of runs in a row. was it as often in the afternoon too?

I worked the second mourning shift...the porsche probably had a good 12 runs in when i worked .....he was just going again after finishing a lap, but it was so cold out..it probably didn't do much for the tires.


here are a couple of vids from the inside of my cobalt. First auto x, first time duct taping a vid camera to my seat, so there not that good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLuI4igkpA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHDaAmrM8Yc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP5NzYvmxWE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9rLeW9ZRtY