primer

[Ian]

as the weather gets nicer, I want to get my car all one shade of primer :lol:

the way I'm gonna go about this is by making a make-shift spray booth, nothing extreme, just to kill the wind mostly as I'm gonna be doing this outside. now, I know how to spray a car, but I dont know much about mixing paint or primer. I know there are a few people on here that have experience with this sort of thing, so I figured I'd ask.


what kind of primer should I use? the car will most likely be wearing it for a while so I'd need something that will last a while.

where to buy? I dont know of any place to buy automotive finish products, mostly because I haven't looked around. anyone have a preferred place to buy paint, primer and supplies?

I'll be using a gravity feed HVLP gun, anything special to take into consideration? I've shot siphon feed non-HVLP guns and gravity feed HVLP guns, but the HVLP guns I shot were at school in a really nice semi-downdraft booth with the pressure regulators already set up for me.



any other bits of wisdom you can pass on to me would be much appreciated as well. thanks in advance!

[johnjzjz]

primer is a product that is intended to be an under coat for paint we all know that - but if after its first cure it is not used as it was intended, some want to be completely removed before paint can and well stay put on the car -- the epoxy stuff you will need breathing equipment to use but hands done its the best for covering bad sanding job to imperfections in the body with a min of effort - a regular production primer is porous and such will suck up water over time not what you want -- we only use the best stuff on the market at a huge cost add to any job but in the end its what everyone wants as an end product -- hope i helped - jz

[V]

I used PPG epoxy primer when i painted the engine compartment of my SS. It was the first time i had ever painted and it was very easy to work with. Mixing was simple, just following all the instructions on the info paper youl get with the primer/paint. Go to a real paint shop and theyll give you any advice or info you need. I told the guy it was my first time painting and what i wanted out of the final job. paint supplies cost me just under 400(primer, color, clear, with hardeners and reducers and prep-sol.) The area was rough to start with. I used sandpaper and a wire brush to clean everything up. I then cleaned the hell out of everything i could see feel or get to. Im very pleased with how it turned out. I had no runs at all with the primer and it really smoother everything out.

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[HardcoreZ28]

I agree with what John and Paul said....if the car is going to be sitting for a while you definitely want to get 2-3 good coats of expoy primer on it as all others will absorb water in a short amount of time and start to rust. Just follow the mixing instructions on the can. You'll want to have the pressure at your compressor coming out at atleast 80 psi or more and make your adjustments at the gun then. You should have a regulator right on the gun. If it's true HVLP you usually look for 12-15lbs. If it's a regular gravity gun then you'll probably want about 35 psi for shooting primer.

There are 2 or 3 suppliers in our area. If you want PPG then you have to go to L&S Auto Supply in Plainfield. If you want Dupont you can either go to Blaise of Color which is off Stelton Road in North Plainfield or you can go to Mid State Autobody in Trenton right on Olden Ave. They will all have whatever you need.

As for priming outside, if you get a day that's not very windy you can most likely do it without making a spray booth just don't let your neighbors see. Just be sure that when you're ready to paint you wetsand the primer with 400-500 grit paper to open up the pores and remove any imperfections. Also depending on how good of a job you're looking to do I'd suggest coating the whole car with a high build primer and blocking that out right before you shoot your color. It will help hide any flaws.

[Tru2Chevy]

There are 2 or 3 suppliers in our area. If you want PPG then you have to go to L&S Auto Supply in Plainfield. If you want Dupont you can either go to Blaise of Color which is off Stelton Road in North Plainfield or you can go to Mid State Autobody in Ewing right on North Olden Ave. They will all have whatever you need.

Fixed. :D

There is also Central Paint on South Olden in Trenton. Garrettwp used to work there. I think they sell mostly BASF

- Justin

[Kat]

When I painted my vert I just used PPG DP90, which is a black epoxy primer. Worked well enough for me as the car sat outside for the whole time of me doing the paint/body

http://www.imangry.net/ne3/Kat/blah/blahz/

[Ian]

that DP90 looks pretty good. I'll probably use that. thanks for all the help guys!

[Ian]

well, I'm one step closer. my gun came in today. DeVilbiss FinishLine with 1.3, 1.5 and 1.8 mm fluid tips and a regulator. not bad for 130 bucks :)