View Full Version : Going up against a Charger SRT8...
Mark B
05-05-2008, 10:54 AM
Hey everyone,
May 28th is the day. Me and a buddy of mine are going to Englishtown to run our cars. He has a 06 Dodge Charger SRT8 w/ a Cat-Back & 22" Wheels. Im running the mods below. What do you think? Will I beat him? I know that his 22" wheels are going to hurt him alot, but Im thinking about doing some last minute mods to try to get more of an edge. Any suggestions?
Thanks in Advance
69BirdX
05-05-2008, 11:07 AM
Im Racing my Buddies SRT8 Magnum tuesday at atco. He has a tune, cataback and CAI. Hes best time to date is a 13.06 with 2.2 60 ft. Stock the Srts have 20 inch rims
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SamhainZ28
05-05-2008, 12:28 PM
I beat an SRT-8 Charger last year at englishtown by at least 2 lengths. The only mods I had at the time were long tubes, a lid, and a tune. He was fast off the line, but i played catch up. Its probalby going to be different for you because you have an lt1, but it should be close.
Frosty
05-05-2008, 12:30 PM
Mark, do you have any track times now? I would think you're mid to low 13's which should put you close to him, I can imagine him getting any traction with 22's, if he beats he's going to run you down at the top of the track.
Anti_Rice_Guy
05-05-2008, 12:31 PM
Do a little weight reduction, and have you ever raced before? That plays a lot into it. I've seen many "should be" 12 or 13 second cars run high 14s or slower.
Mark B
05-05-2008, 01:57 PM
I have raced before. Been to Atco a few times. Im by no means a pro. Im thinking about getting a set of 1.6 Roller Rockers & an underdrive pulley for a little extra insurance
Luckily for me, he hasnt raced before & I dont think he is all that great of a driver. (Cant drive a stick)
qwikz28
05-05-2008, 02:39 PM
Luckily for me, he hasnt raced before & I dont think he is all that great of a driver. (Cant drive a stick)
lucky for him he has an autotragic :)
BigAls87Z28
05-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Underdrive pullies are the biggest waste of money you can spend.
Rocker arms give you a marginal improvement.
To beat him, you would probably need another 100hp or so.
With teh manual trans, who knows what will happen. You miss a shift or slip up, you are done. At best this is a close match but the SRT8 should run low 13's.
Your car is a lighter 4th gen LT1 car. Mid to High 13's at best.
Mark B
05-05-2008, 03:40 PM
SRT8 = 425HP, 4200lbs
My Car = 315HP, 3400lbs
bad64chevelle
05-05-2008, 03:43 PM
Mark I took a modified SRT8 in my 94 A4 car. My car was CAI, Tune, 3:73s, !cat, catback, shorties, and drag shocks. He was headers, catback, tune, and a cold air. I had him from the light and stayed well ahead of him the whole time. I was probably low 13 high 12 car he was probably low-mid 13.
Al...where did you pull that time from for his LT1. He has similar/more modifications than I do and with a good driver should be faster than me Especially a 6speed. Maybe mine was just a bit quicker than other similar cars, but still.
It was a SRT8 Charger btw.
Tru2Chevy
05-05-2008, 03:46 PM
My car weighs 3400lbs, no driver
She's a pig.....get some weight out! :mrgreen:
- Justin
IROCdan330
05-05-2008, 04:09 PM
I'm confused. you guys are saying his car is a 4th gen...but from his sig im getting that its a 3rd gen vert with an lt1 swap. I think the charger will be beaten.
GP99GT
05-05-2008, 05:06 PM
if youre any kind of a driver you might be able to beat him...but itll be close
WildBillyT
05-05-2008, 05:30 PM
Underdrive pullies are the biggest waste of money you can spend.
Ever see The Tornado? :lol:
sweetbmxrider
05-05-2008, 06:48 PM
nah man get an ebay chip. a billion horsepower and a billion and a half mpg's!!!!!!!!
Frosty
05-05-2008, 07:56 PM
Mark, what did you run at Atco? Under drive pulleys and rocker arms are a waste, don't bother.
Mark B
05-05-2008, 09:03 PM
Never ran the current setup. Last time I was at atco I ran a 17.1 with the bone stock 305TBI/Auto
FBODS4EVER
05-05-2008, 10:28 PM
mark ive seen your ride when i got the cam. what you have now. you should beat him. if he drives good it will be close. let us know the outcome. i may go and watch.
SamhainZ28
05-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Never ran the current setup. Last time I was at atco I ran a 17.1 with the bone stock 305TBI/Auto
haha prepare to shave seconds off of that
BigAls87Z28
05-06-2008, 04:28 PM
I am basing his times off a 4th gen LT1 car.
As for performance mods, it didnt seem like a lot. That 315hp, is that dyno or what you figure your car makes?
I dunno. The LX cars are heavy, but that 6.1 makes good power. Thats a 13.0 car easy. I dont see, even with an LT1 swap and your mods, beating him. You need to be spot on with the shifts and know how to drive the everloving crap out of it.
Tru2Chevy
05-06-2008, 04:33 PM
I am basing his times off a 4th gen LT1 car.
As for performance mods, it didnt seem like a lot. That 315hp, is that dyno or what you figure your car makes?
I dunno. The LX cars are heavy, but that 6.1 makes good power. Thats a 13.0 car easy. I dont see, even with an LT1 swap and your mods, beating him. You need to be spot on with the shifts and know how to drive the everloving crap out of it.
I'm figuring a best of a 13.2-13.3 for the SRT8....if the guy is a non-driver and he's running aftermarket 22's, it certainly won't be a 13.0 pass.
- Justin
GP99GT
05-06-2008, 04:33 PM
Mark, what did you run at Atco? Under drive pulleys and rocker arms are a waste, don't bother.
rockers a waste?:-?
WildBillyT
05-06-2008, 05:00 PM
rockers a waste?:-?
I saw that too...
BigAls87Z28
05-06-2008, 05:17 PM
Rockers would be better then the pulleys. Anything that can help out the valvetrain move nice and smooth witha big more lift and duration is a good thing.
Underdrives suck something massive.
Even with 22's...maybe its a close.
JSPERFORMANCE
05-08-2008, 07:40 AM
Mark, we could always install a nitrous kit for that extra insurance... It would be cheaper than doing a cam and more horespower will be made which we all know = more fun!
Mark B
05-13-2008, 03:00 PM
I think I am going to wait to see what I can get down on the dyno this saturday first. If the numbers dont look good... then we will talk again. Actually, even if they do look good, I may be calling you. I just picked up a set of drag radials... can you say goodbye 10-bolt?
JSPERFORMANCE
05-13-2008, 10:34 PM
poor little thing....
NastyEllEssWon
05-20-2008, 01:26 PM
i think the vert is gonna run mid 13s. theyre kind of heavy and
the body twists coming off the line, unless you have sfc. i see
this going to the charger simply because your gonna be going
over 100 for the trap and the chargers top end will simply own
the lt1s everytime.
charger ftw.
i should be there actually on the 28th...with wp tires and hopefully
and ls6 and panhard
98tadriver
05-20-2008, 02:47 PM
i think the vert is gonna run mid 13s. theyre kind of heavy and
the body twists coming off the line, unless you have sfc. i see
this going to the charger simply because your gonna be going
over 100 for the trap and the chargers top end will simply own
the lt1s everytime.
charger ftw.
i should be there actually on the 28th...with wp tires and hopefully
and ls6 and panhard
He's got sfc's. check his sig. Please don't knock the LT1's. 86formula's 96z28 A4 traps at 111mph with bolt ons and gears. As long as this guy can drive his 6spd, its going to be a close race. Good luck my friend!
98tadriver
05-20-2008, 03:05 PM
charger curb weight- 4160 lbs
425hp 420 lb-ft of torque, given the average 22% parasitic drivetrain loss,
thats 331 RWHP and 327RWTQ
parasitic loss could be less, someone can correct me if im wrong
the vert i would say weighs around 3500-3600 with driver
285 RWHP, 317RWTQ
anyone who knows third gens, feel free to correct me on weight if im wrong
charger, with driver 4310 assuming the driver weighs 150lbs
charger roughly has 45 more rwhp, and 10 more rwtq
Charger is going to weigh at least 500lbs more so i believe that will even it out its hp and tq advantage a lil bit.
Drive that 6spd to victory!
Mark B
05-20-2008, 03:06 PM
Got some more detailed info. Turns out he has his car dynoed about a month ago.
SRT8 - 365rwhp / 4200lbs = 11.506 Lbs per Horsepower
Me - 285rwhp / 3400lbs = 11.929 Lbs per Horsepower
Its going to a really close race. It will come down to the drivers. I see me getting the jump off the line and he will be catching up at the top of the track. Should be fun reguardless of who wins. (Becides, I didnt pay $42000 for my car)
98tadriver
05-20-2008, 03:13 PM
Got some more detailed info. Turns out he has his car dynoed about a month ago.
SRT8 - 365rwhp / 4200lbs = 11.506 Lbs per Horsepower
Me - 285rwhp / 3400lbs = 11.929 Lbs per Horsepower
Its going to a really close race. It will come down to the drivers. I see me getting the jump off the line and he will be catching up at the top of
the track. Should be fun reguardless of who wins. (Becides, I didnt pay $42000 for my car)
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0512_sport_coupes_comparison/engine_handling.html
i just found a 0-60 and 1/4 mile time for that dodge. motor trend tested.
0-60 in 5 seconds and 1/4 mile -13.5 @ 106.3 (hey well what do you know, thats LT1 territory lol) doesnt sound like he's got much top end there for 425hp....
sweetbmxrider
05-20-2008, 04:15 PM
hope you hook up well
NastyEllEssWon
05-20-2008, 04:15 PM
i still think the charger is going to take it. Its a known fact
that lt1's fall flat on their face at 90, whereas the charger
is still accelerating fast. if you can get off the line quick
and lt1s can, you should be able to have a car or so lead
by the 1/8th and losing by about a car or so by the 1/4.
it will be close, but im still giving it to the charger. im also
pretty sure the charger has a 5 speed auto.
Tru2Chevy
05-20-2008, 05:11 PM
i still think the charger is going to take it. Its a known fact that lt1's fall flat on their face at 90, whereas the charger
is still accelerating fast. if you can get off the line quick
and lt1s can, you should be able to have a car or so lead
by the 1/8th and losing by about a car or so by the 1/4.
it will be close, but im still giving it to the charger. im also
pretty sure the charger has a 5 speed auto.
90 mph is at the top of 3rd gear in his car, a shift to 4th would put him at approximately 4300-4400 RPM in a 1:1 gear in a car that makes plenty of torque. I don't see him falling on his face at that point one bit.....
- Justin
NastyEllEssWon
05-20-2008, 06:15 PM
he's gonna be shifting from 3rd to 4th right at the end.
if he doesnt have at least a car length at that point he's toast.
the chargers mid to top range is better. trust me. if you beat
the charger its not going to be by much.
im also going by assuming his buddy in the charger can
drive worth a damn, but if the lt1 doesnt clear the 60 and
1/8 in the lead he's not winning no matter what. i bet the lt1 car
does a 13.7 13.8. with the charger pulling a 13.5
98tadriver
05-20-2008, 11:03 PM
i still think the charger is going to take it. Its a known fact
that lt1's fall flat on their face at 90, whereas the charger
is still accelerating fast. if you can get off the line quick
and lt1s can, you should be able to have a car or so lead
by the 1/8th and losing by about a car or so by the 1/4.
it will be close, but im still giving it to the charger. im also
pretty sure the charger has a 5 speed auto.
This fella has a T56 in his LT1, and 3.73s; which is alot different than a Automatic/2.73 geared LT1 car. gearing makes a helluva difference. He will still be pulling.
the charger traps at 106mph. thats really not above and beyond LT1 territory by any means.
Mark B
05-21-2008, 08:19 AM
According to my calcs...
3rd gear & 5900rpm means I will be shifting to 4th at 91.4 mph
JSPERFORMANCE
05-21-2008, 08:26 AM
spray it!!!! To infinity ...and beyond!!!!!!!!!!!
69BirdX
05-21-2008, 11:26 AM
My friend in his SRT8 Magnum ran a best of 12.8 @ 111 with stock street radials. CAI, Magnaflow Catbck and a tune.
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IROCdan330
05-21-2008, 12:31 PM
I still think the third gen will win, but I'm biased...
a charger with big 22" rims and low profile tires cannot be expected to hook at the track like it would (if it even does) on the street. Not to mention all the electronic garbage thats will slow the car down if it does start to spin...Assuming that charger is untuned..
Yea I know you can turn traction control off or whatever dodge calls it, but it wont be completely off if they are still using the benz technology (wouldnt suprise me) unless the driver knows how to get the car in dyno mode, which is an outside chance.
So basically if the guy wiht the thirdgen can launch correctly and maintain the lead, which shouldnt be too difficult, i think he can win. :lol:
NastyEllEssWon
05-21-2008, 02:28 PM
the 6.0 and the lsx series motors are highly comparable.
the fact that your shifting from third to fourth at 91 doesnt
help. i know you havent run it yet but im going by the
consensus here that your going to trap 105. that means
your shifting right at the 3/4 mark. depending upon where your
at on the track, if your about to shift right before you trap
your better off trying to hold 3rd to the max if you can.
i see the charger winning this. i intend to be down there
anyway to baseline the ls1. should be fun.
98tadriver
05-21-2008, 06:40 PM
the 6.0 and the lsx series motors are highly comparable.
the fact that your shifting from third to fourth at 91 doesnt
help. i know you havent run it yet but im going by the
consensus here that your going to trap 105. that means
your shifting right at the 3/4 mark. depending upon where your
at on the track, if your about to shift right before you trap
your better off trying to hold 3rd to the max if you can.
i see the charger winning this. i intend to be down there
anyway to baseline the ls1. should be fun.
i beg to differ there- the reason being the max @ stock rev limiter 6000-6200 rpm in my LS1 and stock 3.42 gears= time of 13.31 and a trap of 103.4 mph, hitting the rev limiter by the 1000' mark. i tried that a couple times before. better off shifting. transmission was fixed, street tires, shifting into 4th, 12.97 @ 110. LS1's pull a bit better up top, so i think the effect of leaving it in 3rd would do more bad than good for the LT1, ESPECIALLY with 3.73s, as he will be banging the rev limiter after the 1/8th
JerzLT1
05-21-2008, 06:48 PM
just pull the interior and you should have him with a set of tires, i went 13.3 with an auto, 2.73s, !muffler, SLP CAI, and LCAs.... id hope your car would be faster lol
NastyEllEssWon
05-21-2008, 07:59 PM
youd think it would be but its not.
not only are lt1s boat anchors and fall flat
theyre also heavier than the aluminum ls1.
combine that with the fact he's in a heavier car
with an older version of your vehicle im saying
the cars going high 13s.
IROCdan330
05-21-2008, 08:28 PM
Um...third gens weigh less than 4th gens (a third gen weighs less with even with a iron block/heads), LT1s are not boat anchors by any means, yes they are heavier than an all aluminum LS1 but dont count them out, theyre still an SBC and still make power. I dont know where you get your information from, but you are very mistaken. the 3.73/T56/LT1 combo makes for an excellent combo.
youd think it would be but its not.
not only are lt1s boat anchors and fall flat
theyre also heavier than the aluminum ls1.
combine that with the fact he's in a heavier car
with an older version of your vehicle im saying
the cars going high 13s.
ls1 has nothing to do with this
sweetbmxrider
05-21-2008, 09:47 PM
:pimp: i smell a gamblers pool! whos bettin on what??
WildBillyT
05-21-2008, 10:02 PM
I would bet that the Camaro will win because the Charger will hook poorly and the traction control will take a giant deuce on his ET.
Iroc-z86
05-21-2008, 10:20 PM
yeah well if you dont beat the charger with the lt1, ill come and beat him with my 3-0-slow with a whopping 230 horse !
hahaha.
NastyEllEssWon
05-22-2008, 12:22 AM
i was stating that his firebird heavier than the avg firebird cause its vert.
I also brought the ls1 in because the other guy was comparing what he
ran in his stock ls1.
i still think the charger will win. i want the chicken to win
98tadriver
05-22-2008, 05:35 PM
i was stating that his firebird heavier than the avg firebird cause its vert.
I also brought the ls1 in because the other guy was comparing what he
ran in his stock ls1.
i still think the charger will win. i want the chicken to win
i was comparing transmissions. a 96 LT1 t56 transmission has the same gear ratio as a 98-02 F body 6sdpd. my car has 373s. his car has 3.73s, my redline is a lil higher than his from the factory. with 3.42 gears, my car hit rev limiter in 3rd by the 1,000' mark. with 3.73s it would hit like right after the 1/8th. so what im saying is, leaving it in 3rd will hurt him more than anything. im not bragging about my car or saying that LT1's are boat anchors.
JerzLT1
05-22-2008, 05:44 PM
youd think it would be but its not.
not only are lt1s boat anchors and fall flat
theyre also heavier than the aluminum ls1.
combine that with the fact he's in a heavier car
with an older version of your vehicle im saying
the cars going high 13s.
j0n Myzie
4th Gen LT1 Trans am 6spd.- 3700lbs
12.700 @ 107.996 1.779 sixty
LT headers
Borla catback with no plate
K&N CAI
4.10s
MadZ28 Tune
B&M Shifter
100k mile motor.
add 1.6 RRs and some weight reduction and i went 12.51 in my T-Top car.
boat anchors.... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
youre an idiot
sweetbmxrider
05-22-2008, 06:09 PM
what kind of weight reduction? i wanna get in on that! breakin into 12's would be hott
JerzLT1
05-22-2008, 06:13 PM
pm sent
98tadriver
05-22-2008, 06:14 PM
what kind of weight reduction? i wanna get in on that! breakin into 12's would be hott
i think that is self explanatory my friend
JerzLT1
05-22-2008, 06:16 PM
what kind of weight reduction? i wanna get in on that! breakin into 12's would be hott
btw its the kind where you take stuff out of your car to make it lighter.... lol if you IM me on AIM i can give you some easy tips for 12s
sweetbmxrider
05-22-2008, 06:18 PM
no aim. it just seemed like a crazy number but now its more reasonable.
98tadriver
05-22-2008, 06:21 PM
no aim. it just seemed like a crazy number but now its more reasonable.
no aim= you will be a boat anchor
sweetbmxrider
05-22-2008, 06:31 PM
:rofl: nahhh we pmed....probably still be a boat. i gotta weld in my lca drop brackets first, bitch doesnt hook up fer ****.
JerzLT1
05-22-2008, 06:34 PM
:rofl: nahhh we pmed....probably still be a boat. i gotta weld in my lca drop brackets first, bitch doesnt hook up fer ****.
<< no LCA relocation brackets, stock torque arm, stock pan hard bar. do LCAs for now and get some sticky tires.
JerzLT1
05-22-2008, 06:39 PM
i was stating that his firebird heavier than the avg firebird cause its vert.
I also brought the ls1 in because the other guy was comparing what he
ran in his stock ls1.
i still think the charger will win. i want the chicken to win
btw it seems that you have almost the same mods as me, would you like to race me with your god engine car? maybe something to make it interesting?
NastyEllEssWon
05-24-2008, 10:32 AM
actually i will be getting dr's soon and be heading to the track. 12.70's isnt
far off of where im hoping to land up. with dr's im sure i can cut 12.90s, but im not heading to the track until after inspection..getting an ls6 intake and panhard before i go too....but im sure we can find something to make it interesting. a few stanky franky's or some action jackson's and im in. im just running on 1/32nds left on the bfg's.
edit: pm me
btw it seems that you have almost the same mods as me, would you like to race me with your god engine car? maybe something to make it interesting?
or mine we have very similar mods and the same motor
actually i will be getting dr's soon and be heading to the track. 12.70's isnt
far off of where im hoping to land up. with dr's im sure i can cut 12.90s, but im not heading to the track until after inspection..getting an ls6 intake and panhard before i go too....but im sure we can find something to make it interesting. a few stanky franky's or some action jackson's and im in. im just running on 1/32nds left on the bfg's.
edit: pm me
you have a modded ls1 and your not in the 12s yet and you are talking trash about lt1 cars?
NastyEllEssWon
05-24-2008, 12:55 PM
i havent tracked it yet so i cant say what it runs. High 12s are what im hoping for.
what do you have done again?
NastyEllEssWon
05-24-2008, 03:27 PM
Borla Catback, Lid and Lca's. once i get inspected and pass emissions im throwing on an ls6 intake and egr delete and getting some tires.
98tadriver
05-24-2008, 04:06 PM
Borla Catback, Lid and Lca's. once i get inspected and pass emissions im throwing on an ls6 intake and egr delete and getting some tires.
Havent tracked it yet? hmm i'll say low 13s for you
The egr delete will pass emissions as long as you get a tune. Ill race ya in the trailblazer :)
NastyEllEssWon
05-24-2008, 07:46 PM
One thing straight. Ive tracked cars before, just not this one.
With the mods i have now if i had a good set of dr's i can probably
snag a high 12 with favorable conditions. Only thing i need is a bulb
and tires to pass inspection. i still have a few days left on my pink card.
Im waiting on my rebate check for tires. i want some dr's but i think im
gonna get some sumitomo htrz for cheap right now ive heard some good things
about em over on ls1tech.com
Frosty
05-24-2008, 08:45 PM
The egr delete will pass emissions as long as you get a tune.
:werd:
Get a guy in NJ that won't really look hard at the visual stuff and you'll pass with ease.
Then again you have a LS1 so it'll pass with no problem...if it was a LT1 they'd fail it because it's a heavy boat anchor of a motor........................
Frosty
05-24-2008, 08:46 PM
Havent tracked it yet? hmm i'll say low 13s for you
:werd: If it's an A4 I'd say low 13's..
well ill race it in the truck.....even heaver than the lt1
NastyEllEssWon
05-25-2008, 01:52 AM
yeah its an a4...booo...but given a sub 2.0 60' and im pretty sure i can snag some good times. and ill run the trailblazer..no problem with that
Frosty
05-25-2008, 08:50 AM
I wouldn't expect 12's on an A4 with just a lid and catback. If you can snag it great, but I wouldn't go there expecting it.
Slow 88
05-25-2008, 11:03 AM
I wouldn't expect 12's on an A4 with just a lid and catback. If you can snag it great, but I wouldn't go there expecting it.
My brothers '00 did.....Then when he put in a converter it went mid 12's w/a programmer and ****** tires to boot..
Frosty
05-25-2008, 11:05 AM
I'm not saying he can't or the car can't, I just wouldn't expect it.
98tadriver
05-25-2008, 12:45 PM
I'm not saying he can't or the car can't, I just wouldn't expect it.
i agree. Ive seen intake/full exhaust A4 cars run low 13s until they got a stall converter for it
NastyEllEssWon
05-26-2008, 12:45 PM
actually i will be getting dr's soon and be heading to the track. 12.70's isnt
far off of where im hoping to land up. with dr's im sure i can cut 12.90s, but im not heading to the track until after inspection..getting an ls6 intake and panhard before i go too....but im sure we can find something to make it interesting. a few stanky franky's or some action jackson's and im in. im just running on 1/32nds left on the bfg's.
edit: pm me
when i get to the track my setup will be as follows.
ls6 intake - lid
egr smog and ac delete
tubed lca's
panhard
borla catback
street tires, cant afford the dr's now
i also have the three twenties gearset
BigAls87Z28
05-26-2008, 07:30 PM
My friends/coworkers 01 TA ran a 13.08 with street tires, flowmaster exhaust, and an SLP lid.
Its an A4 car as well. Tires are Dunlop SP5000's. IMO, a set of DR's will break 12's.
Mark B
05-27-2008, 06:53 AM
Well... Bad news guys. I got to work this morning & realized that my friend didnt drive his charger to work. (He always drives it) I walk in & he says "Race is off." Turns out some lady pulled out in front of him this weekend and smashed up his front end. Im really bummed. I've been looking forward to tomorrow for a month now. Anyway, I will still be there tomorrow night to run my car. We just wont know the answer to this question untill he gets his wheels fixed.
PS: I will try to get pics of the charger.
Mark B
05-27-2008, 07:03 AM
Got a pic already...
IROCdan330
05-27-2008, 07:05 AM
is that car at a body shop near bensalem, pa?
definitely just saw what looks to be the exact one out there yesterday...
Mark B
05-27-2008, 07:51 AM
Thats the one.
79CamaroDiva
05-27-2008, 12:31 PM
i agree. Ive seen intake/full exhaust A4 cars run low 13s until they got a stall converter for it
I'm sorry, but does this drive anyone else nuts?? What do you mean by a stall converter? ALL converters have a "stall." Stock converters just stall lower than :shock: high stall converters. I'm sorry, I don't mean to pick on you, but this is how the internet is a terrible thing sometimes. People going around talking about "buying a stall." no. you don't buy a stall. you buy a higher stall converter. UGH!
Got a pic already...
this makes me cry.
WildBillyT
05-27-2008, 01:26 PM
I'm sorry, but does this drive anyone else nuts?? What do you mean by a stall converter? ALL converters have a "stall." Stock converters just stall lower than :shock: high stall converters. I'm sorry, I don't mean to pick on you, but this is how the internet is a terrible thing sometimes. People going around talking about "buying a stall." no. you don't buy a stall. you buy a higher stall converter. UGH!
this makes me cry.
Yes.
The same is true for people who go on a "diet".
sweetbmxrider
05-27-2008, 03:42 PM
thats a pretty nice lookin car.....was....no way those [20's] edit: dem 22's!! are hookin up at all. and the rolling mass totally tips the scale in your favor. bling FTL
Mark B
05-27-2008, 03:59 PM
Correction.... 22's
sweetbmxrider
05-27-2008, 04:03 PM
HO SNAP!
JerzLT1
05-27-2008, 07:45 PM
Mike stop tryin to take my fun away, my boat anchor of a motor needs to make me a few bucks before i leave :lol: i can probably get to the track Sunday morning if youd like to put a few bills down on this race. otherwise its off to balad for me on Tuesday so itll be a no go.
im just challenging him with a truck thats a second slower than hes hoping to run.....
Frosty
05-27-2008, 08:55 PM
im just challenging him with a truck thats a second slower than hes hoping to run.....
:D:D:D:D
NastyEllEssWon
05-28-2008, 07:14 AM
you live near me we can take it out to the country roads if you want :nod:
JerzLT1
05-28-2008, 07:16 AM
you live near me we can take it out to the country roads if you want :nod:
i dont street race scooter, its not clear enough who won or if someone launched early. time slips dont lie.
Mark B
05-28-2008, 02:15 PM
I will be there tonight around 6:30. Hope to see some of you there.
JerzLT1
05-28-2008, 02:25 PM
I will be there tonight around 6:30. Hope to see some of you there.
there is a good possibility....
98tadriver
05-28-2008, 06:20 PM
I'm sorry, but does this drive anyone else nuts?? What do you mean by a stall converter? ALL converters have a "stall." Stock converters just stall lower than :shock: high stall converters. I'm sorry, I don't mean to pick on you, but this is how the internet is a terrible thing sometimes. People going around talking about "buying a stall." no. you don't buy a stall. you buy a higher stall converter. UGH!
this makes me cry.
ive picked that lingo up from LS1tech and other forums. Its just a shortened up version so you dont have to type "higher stall converter" although a stock converter can stall up to a MASSIVE 1600rpm, its is still a stock converter, therefore we call it a stock converter. ive only seen the phrase "higher stall converter" twice, one of these times is from you lol. Go on tech' and look at the fellas who run automatic cars with a stall in it. alot of people will have it say like heads, cam, stall or bolt ons, gears, stall. shortened up version. many people say it that way.
79CamaroDiva
05-28-2008, 07:59 PM
ive picked that lingo up from LS1tech and other forums. Its just a shortened up version so you dont have to type "higher stall converter" although a stock converter can stall up to a MASSIVE 1600rpm, its is still a stock converter, therefore we call it a stock converter. ive only seen the phrase "higher stall converter" twice, one of these times is from you lol. Go on tech' and look at the fellas who run automatic cars with a stall in it. alot of people will have it say like heads, cam, stall or bolt ons, gears, stall. shortened up version. many people say it that way.
i know. I've seen it on tech too. And personally I think its the stupidest thing i've ever seen. when listing your mods you want to do, instead of saying you want a "stall" it should be "converter," otherwise people who are new get misinformed and start calling one thing something that its not. I'm sorry, you can't call up summit or jegs and order a stall. nor can you go to a trans shop and ask for one. Stalls are where horses ****. Maybe you could get one at tractor supply.
*btw, any point in this post where the word "you" is mentioned, is not aimed directly at anyone, but is a generic term for the halfwits that started this trend.
Mark B
05-28-2008, 10:54 PM
The results are in!!
1st Pass
RT - .152
60' - 2.191
1/8 - 8.849
1/4 - 13.561
mph - 104.65
2nd Pass
RT - .822 (I fell asleep)
60' - 2.021
1/8 - 8.645
1/4 - 13.357
mph - 104.60
Im VERY pleased with the results. I think the car has a 13.1 in it, but I would have needed another pass or two to extract it out. If my buddy in the SRT8 came... He would have been beaten.
Tru2Chevy
05-28-2008, 10:56 PM
:w00t:
Nice times man!
- Justin
IROCdan330
05-29-2008, 06:07 AM
damn thats not bad for a boat anchor of an engine that cant pull passed 90...
If you could get sub 2.0 60' i wouldnt doubt seeing something more like a 13.0 or maybe less if the air temp was cooler. Congrats man.
Mark B
05-29-2008, 06:54 AM
What nights do Atco & Englishtown allow street cars to run. I WANNA GO AGAIN. SOON!!
I need to see 13.0
Between the facts that I forgot to soften up my front struts last night & I wasnt power shifting I know I can get it.
JSPERFORMANCE
05-29-2008, 06:55 AM
A little nitrous will put you in the low 12s..
JerzLT1
05-29-2008, 07:16 AM
what rim/tire combo were you using?
98tadriver
05-29-2008, 09:14 AM
damn thats not bad for a boat anchor of an engine that cant pull passed 90...
If you could get sub 2.0 60' i wouldnt doubt seeing something more like a 13.0 or maybe less if the air temp was cooler. Congrats man.
i agree. How high were you launching at and what how did u go about it?
Tru2Chevy
05-29-2008, 09:37 AM
what rim/tire combo were you using?
And what air pressure were the fronts and rears at?
- Justin
Mark B
05-29-2008, 11:49 AM
Fronts were at 40psi, Rears were at 22psi
First pass I dumped the clutch @ 2500rpm
Second pass I quickly released it at 3500rpm
Mark B
05-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Forgot to mention...
My first run I ended up going against a modded Ford GT. It was a very close race. haha
There was a Charger SRT8 Super Bee there that ran a best of 13.7
And there was a Chrysler 300C SRT8 which ran a best of 13.5
79CamaroDiva
05-29-2008, 01:08 PM
What nights do Atco & Englishtown allow street cars to run. I WANNA GO AGAIN. SOON!!
the only day that there's no racing anywhere in NJ is Monday nights. Tuesday at atco, wed at e-town and island, thurs at atco, friday/sat/sun at island atco and e-town
Mark B
05-29-2008, 01:18 PM
Anyone going to Atco tonight? I will be there going for 13.1
98tadriver
05-29-2008, 08:34 PM
Anyone going to Atco tonight? I will be there going for 13.1
I wont be there but good luck my friend! i dont want to come off sounding like a know-it-all or anything like that, but try to launch it around 4,000 rpm, slipping the clutch quickly. dumping it will only make u spin or bog. most likely bog at that rpm. once i had full suspension and a 12 bolt, clutch dumps at 5500-6k, yielded some good 60's lol
Mark B
05-29-2008, 10:05 PM
Well I wasnt able to beat last nights best. I ran a best of 13.37 @ 105mph. 60's are still around 2.0XX
More practice is needed
bad64chevelle
05-29-2008, 10:10 PM
I saw you there tonight man, just didnt get a chance to come over and see you. My buddy needed to pull his head out of his ass, he was pre-occupied with something and he just was unable to drive the truck like he normally does.
98tadriver
05-30-2008, 11:27 AM
Well I wasnt able to beat last nights best. I ran a best of 13.37 @ 105mph. 60's are still around 2.0XX
More practice is needed
With some more seat time, youll be getting 1.9s, maybe even 1.8 60's im sure the car has got it
getting it out of the hole is the trickiest part when it comes to manual transmissions
sweetbmxrider
05-30-2008, 11:32 PM
congrats dude! thats damn impressive to me
Tru2Chevy
05-31-2008, 07:07 PM
Pump the front tire pressure up too while you are at the track. Get them up to 50 or 60 psi once you get there.
Just remember to air them back down before you leave!
- Justin
JerzLT1
05-31-2008, 11:20 PM
so i went to this circle track today that im sure none of you have ever heard of and there was a black Charger Rt there. so i raced him from and 80 roll and my old 111k mile boat anchor LT1 didnt fall on its face even after 90mph! i mean i thought for sure he was gonna have me until i but bus lengths on him. :twisted: true story ;)
98tadriver
06-01-2008, 12:26 AM
so i went to this circle track today that im sure none of you have ever heard of and there was a black Charger Rt there. so i raced him from and 80 roll and my old 111k mile boat anchor LT1 didnt fall on its face even after 90mph! i mean i thought for sure he was gonna have me until i but bus lengths on him. :twisted: true story ;)
lol. this is true, because he texted me right after it happened.
Mike Something
06-01-2008, 03:25 PM
Nice times on your boat anchor man!!! That's pretty damn impressive!!! Hope I cut at least a 12 w/ the SloMaro...
Squirrel
06-01-2008, 11:55 PM
you should be able to squeeze a high 12 out of that car, good luck with it
Mike Something
06-02-2008, 07:12 PM
Squirrel, Me? High 12? What about if I get a 125 shot? =)
Squirrel
06-03-2008, 02:31 PM
Squirrel, Me? High 12? What about if I get a 125 shot? =)
lol, you should be in the 11's with the work you got..i was referring to the thread starter
Mike Something
06-03-2008, 03:41 PM
lol, you should be in the 11's with the work you got..i was referring to the thread starter
Ah si, yea, never ran my car... Stock rear's got me down. Once I get a Moser 9" tho...
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