Nationality

[qwikz28]

I am Egyptian and I am applying for internships. Which do you think I should choose? Would it be wrong to put African American to boost my application? Choices are above. If you vote, put a reason also

[ar0ck]

I'm pretty sure Egyptian is considered Middle Eastern which is a nationality.

[WildBillyT]

Jake-

Would you mind if I changed it up? I've got a demo scale from here at work that would be good. I always wanted to find this out myself. Same thing with height/weight.

FWIW, I was good friends with an Egyptian who applied for an African-American scholarship. They tried to deny him, he sued them, and won.

[qwikz28]

I'm pretty sure Egyptian is considered Middle Eastern which is a nationality.

Egypt isn't middle east. only thing in common is language which is of Muslim origin, not national

[qwikz28]

Jake-

Would you mind if I changed it up? I've got a demo scale from here at work that would be good. I always wanted to find this out myself. Same thing with height/weight.

FWIW, I was good friends with an Egyptian who applied for an African-American scholarship. They tried to deny him, he sued them, and won.

i don't understand what your asking but sure.

[79CamaroDiva]

For scholarships and grants, i might say choose African American to boost the application, but in an internship, you actually have to work with the people and that might give them the idea that you try to get away with things.

However, Egypt is really part of Africa, so you wouldn't technically be doing anything wrong.

[CaysE]

Egypt isn't middle east. only thing in common is language which is of Muslim origin, not national

Egypt is widely considered a part of the middle east... the same with Sudan, also in Africa. Turkey, as well; a part of Europe. The middle east doesn't have political boundaries; it's just a description of the region.

[WildBillyT]

i don't understand what your asking but sure.

Sorry, brain fart. I wanted to do another poll for all the members to describe their nationality.

[qwikz28]

Egypt is widely considered a part of the middle east... the same with Sudan, also in Africa. Turkey, as well; a part of Europe. The middle east doesn't have political boundaries; it's just a description of the region.

understandable. morocco is considered middle east as well. what i'm saying is egypt traces its influence back to Greece, which is European, and not to Iraq and that area.

[CaysE]

That's like saying I'm Irish because my great grandparents were born there. I'm not Irish; I'm American. ;)

[ar0ck]

understandable. morocco is considered middle east as well. what i'm saying is egypt traces its influence back to Greece, which is European, and not to Iraq and that area.

Its been geographically considered the Middle East since the dawn of time :lol: Its not necessarily all based on religion, its a geographic area.

http://webtech.cherokee.k12.ga.us/etbooth-ms/DonnaRichardson/Middle-East.gif

I'm a History Major, come on now. :)

[qwikz28]

That's like saying I'm Irish because my great grandparents were born there. I'm not Irish; I'm American. ;)

but now your Irish-American. They are asking for my native descent, not my skin tone. Am I African-American or Caucasian. By definition I'm African American, but whose definition is that anyway? Is there a set guideline for this? Maybe I'm trying to justify taking advantage of a system thats designed to level the playing field for underprivileged people. I don't know. Right now my LSAC has me listed as Other. I applied to undergrad as African American with the exception of Rutgers which I applied as white. I didn't get rejected from any schools. African American makes the most sense to me.

[WildBillyT]

but now your Irish-American. They are asking for my native descent, not my skin tone. Am I African-American or Caucasian. By definition I'm African American, but whose definition is that anyway? Is there a set guideline for this? Maybe I'm trying to justify taking advantage of a system thats designed to level the playing field for underprivileged people. I don't know. Right now my LSAC has me listed as Other. I applied to undergrad as African American with the exception of Rutgers which I applied as white. I didn't get rejected from any schools. African American makes the most sense to me.

Jake,

You may want to search around on the Internet and see what other people have done. My buddy Mike is not the only person I've heard of who has had to use the "Egypt is part of Africa" rule to qualify as African-American.

Also, what about people from South Africa? Some of them are as white as ghosts, but they are technically African.

[Tsar]

Nationality - Egyptian, Russian, Korean, etc
Race - White, A/A

Pretty sure they do not ask for nationalities, and as far as the race goes I think you would fit into "Others" unless they have a specific designation for you. I will agree with Alex about the Middle Eastern thing.

[Savage_Messiah]

Egypt is a part of the African continent...

[Tsar]

Egypt is a part of the African continent...
look in post 7 and then look at the map, then get back here.

[Savage_Messiah]

http://www.africandecade.org/image-repository/AfricanContinent.png

http://www.waet.uga.edu/wiki/images/b/b6/Kenya_1.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/African_continent-fr.svg/644px-African_continent-fr.svg.png

http://www.unep.org/ozone/Events/african_continent.gif

http://www.tigerhomes.org/animal/images/africa_edu.gif

http://www.eolc-observatory.net/global_analysis/images/africa/africa_continent_regions.gif




I got plenty more maps, you wanna play that card?

[Tsar]

Do you see where Sudan is located? somehow its widely considered to be part of middle east. Do you know where Turkey is? I'll give you a hint - "middle east" - but ohh my god it's part of EUROPEAN union and its not even in Europe! OHHH MY GOD, I think the world is coming to an end.

Oh another thing, go to BBC's website and look into the Middle East Section, guess what's there Sudan. And I know perfectly well where its located, I took geography before you got to high school.

[BonzoHansen]

Now where is central middle east?

[Tsar]

Now where is central middle east?
the center doesn't exist, its forever expending :lol:

[enRo]

I did a massive search in this thread, and still cant find Egypt. Can someone point it out?

















:rofl:

Their asking for race... Not particularly making comparisons here, but what do you think a South American would put as their answer? Its pretty much the same concept. Just put "Other" cuz your fine Egyptian race isnt included in the other options :D

[Tsar]

Since I'm bored, I'll add a little more to the whole African continent debacle.

Just because a country is located on the continent may not necessarily give them the proper destination. Such as Sudan and Egypt are located on the African continent but they are considered by many to be part of the Middle East. Just like the Scenario above, we have Eurasian landmass which is divided into Europe, Asia, and Middle East; do you think we should refer to them all as the same after all they are all part of the same continent. If we can divide one part of the world and call it different names we can certainly do the same to the other parts, and we have done so for a long time.

[Tsar]

I did a massive search in this thread, and still cant find Egypt. Can someone point it out?

















:rofl:

Their asking for race... Not particularly making comparisons here, but what do you think a South American would put as their answer? Its pretty much the same concept. Just put "Other" cuz your fine Egyptian race isnt included in the other options :D
Egyptian isn't a race, its nationality you newbie :lol:

[Savage_Messiah]

Now where is central middle east?


There is none, it's the south!

[enRo]

Egyptian isn't a race, its nationality you newbie :lol:

Oops... typo o_O Good call n00b3rt

[Knipps]

I had this dilemma applying to colleges, I contemplated putting "south pacific islander" as my mom was born in Australia and I AM technically a citizen of both the USA and Australia

[qwikz28]

i speak for most egyptians when i say we do not consider ourselves middle eastern. but its not what we think that matters and as vitals said its widely accepted that we are so whatever. but that still doesn't answer my question. should i put african american to use it for my advantage?

[Tsar]

What do you normally put on your applications?


I would go with whatever I always use to fill out an application, but I have never been in the position to choose.

edit* what kind of internship are you applying for?

[qwikz28]

What do you normally put on your applications?


I would go with whatever I always use to fill out an application, but I have never been in the position to choose.

edit* what kind of internship are you applying for?

Washington DC. i'll basically be interning at some government agency or political association.

[procamaroz28]

Its been geographically considered the Middle East since the dawn of time :lol: Its not necessarily all based on religion, its a geographic area.

http://webtech.cherokee.k12.ga.us/etbooth-ms/DonnaRichardson/Middle-East.gif

I'm a History Major, come on now. :)

NO that is soo wrong in like soo many ways its geographically north africa im in the minority of the minority of the minorit, african-egyptian-coptic

[procamaroz28]

same wit u jake