nightshading

[Jam]

I'm VHT nightshading my tail lights tomorrow and I wanted to know if I were to do 5-6 Stages of spraying and Blacking out my tails would my braking light appearance be horrible in the daylight. I've heard of stories that during the day blacked out tails show very little brake light.

[sweetbmxrider]

i haven't gotten hit yet, but i guess if the sun is really bright and glaring, you wouldn't see it.

[maroman88]

uhh i did 2 light coats on my DD and there pretty dark. i did 3 coats on my 88 and there pitch black! 5-6 would be insane

[69BirdX]

my friend oversprayed the one. So only one of his brakes lights would show. He has and is a ricer though. Should look good if you do it right.
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[bubba428]

um i just do one super tin coat of regular black body paint and wet sand the **** out of it...then clear and wet sand again

[madness410]

do they make like hyper white bulbs or led bulbs for your brake lights? i had those on my civic for turn signals and they would blind me...they would work well if they were nightshaded over..

[Jam]

yeah, I want my tail lights to be blacked out besides the reverse lights (the white section) . So would LEDs be a good conversion ?

[bubba428]

if you do that, i'm telling you right now its going to look like crap....the lenses are colored from the inside and VHT goes on the outside....theres going to be an ugly ass line across it

[Tru2Chevy]

if you do that, i'm telling you right now its going to look like crap....the lenses are colored from the inside and VHT goes on the outside....theres going to be an ugly ass line across it

Nope...I've seen several 4th gens with the reverse section left alone after nightshading the rest, and I think they look great.....

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/300/rearbig.jpg

- Justin

[usp55]

I put one coat of vht on my and left the white part stock, looks great. Don’t VHT everything, might as well just buy the covers. The stock red was to bright IMO. One coat made it less intense, a shade of burgundy. I wish I had a pic.


And the onything wrong with the pic Justin posted is the fact that they didnt VHT the third brake light. Little things like that piss me off

[Jam]

yeah i hate when owners of f bodys who nightshade their tails leave their 3rd brake light stock.

[Jam]

Nope...I've seen several 4th gens with the reverse section left alone after nightshading the rest, and I think they look great.....

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/300/rearbig.jpg

- Justin

that's exactly what I would like to do ... I just need to know if and how to convert my lights to LEDs. because I won't go blacking out if people can't see my braking during the day. Also, would LEDs create high temperature and warp the lenses?

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah looks gay. just go light and it will be darker than you think.

[Jam]

What looks stupid? Having LEDs on nightshaded tails

[madness410]

that's exactly what I would like to do ... I just need to know if and how to convert my lights to LEDs. because I won't go blacking out if people can't see my braking during the day. Also, would LEDs create high temperature and warp the lenses?

first look for hyper white bulbs and see if those work out, like i said they were a stock replacement for my civic on the turn signals and they dam near left me blind looking at them.

i also dont know about leds, i hear they require more (or maybe less...i dont know) electricity so they tend to blink alot faster than stock. but thats what i hear, google it.

[sweetbmxrider]

red third brake light. they make led bulbs that fit like stock, would help alot but i rock regular bulbs and they seem fine to me. never know though

[Jam]

well yesterday I separated the housing from the lenses and resealed them with RTV Clear Silicone . came out without too much hassle, not worth taking the risk of chipping the lenses, that's for sure.

[Jam]

Okay I just finished nightshading my lights. I didn't spray the white reverse lights and I did 6 VERY VERY THIN coats. Looks phenomenal

[sweetbmxrider]

sweet lets see it

[Jam]

I'm going to take pics of it later.
during the day it reflects red. but when its in the shade its pretty black.
I'm thinking I should make it darker, but I'll see how it is for a day and if I'm not satisfied i'll just go all out.

[Tru2Chevy]

LEDs run cool, no worries about heat with them. However you'll need to get a resistor to run inline, otherwise they will act like you have a light out, since LEDs provide less resistance than stock incandescent.

Also, don't buy the first little cheap LEDs you find. Do a search here, there are others who have switched to quality LEDs and have info posted up about it.

- Justin

[Jam]

alright thanks. also, If I feel like nightshading my tails even darker. would I be able to go over it.

[Tru2Chevy]

Yes, but I would test with lights before going darker. Much cheaper than having to go back and buy new taillights because yours are almost black now.

- Justin

[Jam]

well I guess it looked darker before, it's way to light, I'm going to have to make it darker , can i just nightshade over the light clear coats i put

[Jam]

Here's a current pic, definitely needs to be darker.

[Tru2Chevy]

That's a good start....

- Justin

[Jam]

Can I just spray nightshade over the clearcoat or will I have to 1000 grit it before


Or would it get darker if I clear coat more

[Tru2Chevy]

I would hit it with the sandpaper first

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah just wetsand it with even 2000 grit. you will see the clear come off. i'd do maybe 2-3 light passes. otherwise it will be overkill during the day.

[Jam]

yeah just wetsand it with even 2000 grit. you will see the clear come off. i'd do maybe 2-3 light passes. otherwise it will be overkill during the day.

true that sweetbmxrider I'll do that tomorrow thanks for the tip and I'll post up the after pics. btw you think I should Clear Coat it a lot ,

[sweetbmxrider]

if you want it to look nice and shiny like taillights usually are, give it a few coats. i only did one maybe two cause i dig the flatter look.

[Jam]

yeah. your car looks sick with less clear tails.

[Slow96LT1]

i use the vht nightshade on my car i put 3 coat and they are black then i let it cure overnight and put 6 coat of clear on it then wet sand and buff and they look just like the car when i get in i will post up some photo

[madness410]

if you want it to look nice and shiny like taillights usually are, give it a few coats. i only did one maybe two cause i dig the flatter look.

yeah that flatter look is pretty sweet i can vouch for that ive seen it in person :wink:

[sweetbmxrider]

haha yeah its solid. i should have done my tail panel the same. but i dig it.

[Jam]

i use the vht nightshade on my car i put 3 coat and they are black then i let it cure overnight and put 6 coat of clear on it then wet sand and buff and they look just like the car when i get in i will post up some photo

yeah it would be nice if you posted up a pic
I'm currently taping off the reverse lights and wet sanding my previous clear coat with 2000Grit. then I'll lay down 1 more coat and I'll clear it a few times.

[sweetbmxrider]

do one, let it get tacky, hold it to some light and decide if its what you want. better to get what you desire this time then doing it again.

[Jam]

I just put one more coat . should be fine.

[ar0ck]

I like the how the white is separated, but personally I would put a layer over the white as well. I'm aiming for the gloss look for my car.

[Jam]

I like the how the white is separated, but personally I would put a layer over the white as well. I'm aiming for the gloss look for my car.

I agree. I just got done with clear coating. I was going to go with the flat finish like sweetbmx was telling me.but I sprayed too much and ended up having to make it entirely glossy looking. It looks surprisingly good. I don't think I'll put clear coat on the reverse lights though; it's more distinguished as separate.

[sweetbmxrider]

its your choice. pics?

[Jam]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6363/dsc00067600x320pi5.th.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00067600x320pi5.jpg)
finish picture

[Jam]

its your choice. pics?

i ended up taking off the clear coat because you were right dull is a lot sicker.

[sweetbmxrider]

looks good! i like how you got the third.

[Jam]

looks good! i like how you got the third.

thanks to your advice

[shortieee]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/demonnicc/taillight2.jpg


^ my boys car

He did the taillights himself.

[sweetbmxrider]

ah he got the third brake light...good!

[shortieee]

Yep. He did an awesome job too. He did the same thing to the owner of my ex's notch's car - With the taillights nd headlights. Came out awesome!

I never had the chance to get mine done, because you know - People can't drive. But yeah, I might have him do it to my explorer just for ****s nd giggles.

[Jam]

yeah .. both of ours came out nice