2010 Production Camaro on jalopnik

[slugger27nj]

http://jalopnik.com/398828/production-2010-chevy-camaro-revealed

[NJ346]

I like the weight, but still more info will come out on Monday guaranteed. There really isn't any new info there besides the weight and lower HP numbers which we knew already. Look at the guage cluster and notice the miles: 586K!! lol http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/7276/photos/PHOTO_1479035_7276_262064_main.jpg

[Fast92RS]

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:: drool::drool:

[ar0ck]

Not bad

[r0nin89]

Hmmm surprised to hear they are putting a 6.2 in it.

[maroman88]

they CHANNGED THE HEADLIGHTS OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

looks freakin sweet! and i see room to paint a "berger" panel lol

[Untamed]

Great work on the comparison between interiors. I hadn't taken the time to look at the 69 and compare. They are definately close.

I still don't like the interior of the Camaro. The exterior looks nice though.

[LS1Hawk]

296 HP for a V6 is pretty sweet...only 4 less than the Mustang GT's V8!

[BonzoHansen]

Not loving the busy dash/radio stack. Round gauges in sqaure holes, ugh. :lol:

Overall still like it.

The radio is tuned to fox news. LOL

[redbanditZ28]

I am confused. I saw mention of the LS, LT, and SS, and the RS, but what about Z28?

[karr95]

I am confused with the gauges. If the fuel and water temp are with the tach and speedo, what are the 4 gauges by the shifter? Oil, battery, ?, ?

[BonzoHansen]

I am confused with the gauges. If the fuel and water temp are with the tach and speedo, what are the 4 gauges by the shifter? Oil, battery, ?, ?

Oil pres, oil temp, volts, and torque gauge!?!?!?

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5171

[LS1Hawk]

I know one of them is a torque gauge.

[BonzoHansen]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/SIBLY/Cars/NewCamaro/2010_camaro_stackX1.jpg

[karr95]

Wow, never seen a torque gauge before. That car is sweet.

[Frosty]

I still don't like the interior of the Camaro.


:werd:

[SteveR]

why did they change the headlights?

[r0nin89]

I am confused. I saw mention of the LS, LT, and SS, and the RS, but what about Z28?

Yeah I dont understand why they wouldnt just do RS, z28, and SS...

[B4C]

I still like this better, but Any idea on price??
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r257/BrokeChevy/ta.jpg

[BonzoHansen]

Ugh, a sunroof. Every dealer will order it with that damn thing.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/07/production_2010_camaro_coupe_1280_-00.jpg

[79CamaroDiva]

Yeah I dont understand why they wouldnt just do RS, z28, and SS...

im assuming because thats the going trend in new chevy's, ls, lt and ss

[BonzoHansen]

latest rumor was the z28 was gonna be the big dog, but it got axed. I assume it will return at some point.

[SteveR]

maybe they'll replace it with a 2010 Z-24

http://www.khturbo.net/images/Z24images/Z24%20Pics%202-06%20%232a.JPG

[BonzoHansen]

maybe they'll replace it with a 2010 Z-24

ballin'...

[12secondv6]

Kinda heavy.

I wonder if a full optioned one will knock on 4,000 lbs?
Or what about the drop top?

Then the challenger wouldn't seem so heavy huh?

[SteveR]

Kinda heavy.

I wonder if a full optioned one will knock on 4,000 lbs?
Or what about the drop top?

Then the challenger wouldn't seem so heavy huh?

yea convertible should add some good weight, and is that weight measured for the V6 or V8? Two more cylinders, an auto trans, some big 21s or 22s, and all the body molding should be a good bit more than the base V6.

[BonzoHansen]

Kinda heavy.

I wonder if a full optioned one will knock on 4,000 lbs?
Or what about the drop top?

Then the challenger wouldn't seem so heavy huh?

Considering the weight of cars these days, 3750 is not too bad.

[SteveR]

"but the Camaro is a porker, weighing in at more than 1,700kgs."

Im guessing the weight was measured on a bare bones V6. Looks like the Camaro and the Challenger will be about the same weight after all.

[r0nin89]

Yeah jeeze. It dont seem to be too much lighter than a Challenger. Still a tank vs a 4th gen or vette.

[BonzoHansen]

I thought the challenger was well over 4200 lbs?

[SteveR]

I thought the challenger was well over 4200 lbs?

V6 is 3800, SRT8 is 4140.

[SteveR]

oh, and Saleen announced that they're going to make Saleen Challengers starting in 2009. Two versions, a supercharged 5.7 hemi, the 570TM making 500hp, and the 570XTM, making over 700hp :twisted:

[79CamaroDiva]

oh, and Saleen announced that they're going to make Saleen Challengers starting in 2009. Two versions, a supercharged 5.7 hemi, the 570TM making 500hp, and the 570XTM, making over 700hp :twisted:

you can buy me that too!

[BigAls87Z28]

SS will get the 6.2, the Z28 will get the supercharged one.
Z28 is still on. It has not been canceled. All info saying so is false and should be removed.

Red...ohhhhhhhhhhh I just came
3700lbs V8 car making as much power as teh 4200lb SRT8 for THOUSANDS (ten or more) less.
**** you Challenger, **** you inthe mouth.

[BigAls87Z28]

3700lb rating is for the SS, not the V6.
V6 will be 100lbs or so less.

For 6 years, all the nay sayers are silenced.

[BigAls87Z28]

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0718/10.chevrolet.camaro.rs.f34.1.500.jpg http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0718/10.chevrolet.camaro.rs.r34.1.500.jpg
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All of the leaked photos are of the RS model which is a performance package for the V6 Camaro.

The RS package includes 20″ wheels, projector HID headlamps with BMW-inspired halos, tinted taillight lenses and a rear ducktail spoiler that are also found on the SS.

The V6 cars carry 12.6-inch vented front rotors and 12.4-inch vented rear rotors with single-piston calipers. 14-inch plus Brembos are standard on the SS.

The curb weight for the V6 Camaro is around 3,700lbs.

The curb weight for the SS is 3,900lbs.

LS and LT are models for V6 cars only and have varying equipment.

The interior has Chevrolet bowtie blue LED lighting, including the door panels.

Multiple interior accent colors will be available including orange.

The SS will have the hood scoop from the concept.

The LS3 SS is EPA rated at 15mpg city and 23mpg highway.

The V6 Camaro is EPA rated at 18mpg city and 27mpg highway.

Option the SS with an automatic transmission and you will get the new L99 V8 with cylinder-deactivation and it makes a little less power than the LS3 which is standard on the SS with a manual.

Limited-slip is standard on all SS Camaros and V6 models with manual transmissions.

The manual SS has a 3.45:1 rear gear set.

The automatic SS has a 3.27:1 rear gear set.

All Camaros feature asymmetrical or staggered half-shafts in the rear suspension to quell wheel-hop, just like the new LSA CTS-V and LS9 Corvette ZR1.

Camaros with the automatic transmission have rev-matching shifts and the SS with an automatic features paddle shifters.

The supercharged LSA Camaro is still in the works featuring the Corvette’s self-adjusting dampers with Magnetic Ride Control.

The front struts and a rear independent multilink setup are from the Holden Commodore/Pontiac G8 sedan.

The Camaro’s structure is 112.3 inches and 2.5 inches shorter than the Holden Commodore/Pontiac G8 it is made out of.

The SS features front and rear antiroll bars that are almost an inch larger in diameter than those of the V6 as well as stiffer springs and more aggressive damper settings. The suspension was tuned on Germany’s Nurburghring.

[SteveR]

SS will get the 6.2, the Z28 will get the supercharged one.
Z28 is still on. It has not been canceled. All info saying so is false and should be removed.

Red...ohhhhhhhhhhh I just came
3700lbs V8 car making as much power as teh 4200lb SRT8 for THOUSANDS (ten or more) less.
**** you Challenger, **** you inthe mouth.

I highly doubt the SS will be ten thousand less than the SRT8, especially considering dealer markup.

[BigAls87Z28]

http://www.sportscarcup.com/cars/chevrolet-camaro.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0718/10.chevrolet.camaro.rs.f34.1.500.jpg

Raise your hand if you can tell me which one is the concept, which one is the production car?

[SteveR]

"# The curb weight for the V6 Camaro is around 3,700lbs.
# The curb weight for the SS is 3,900lbs."

not much difference to the Challenger. ~100 pounds for the V6 and ~200 for the SS to SRT8.

[BigAls87Z28]

I highly doubt the SS will be ten thousand less than the SRT8, especially considering dealer markup.

SS will be the "base" V8 model, starting at or around 30k.
Z28 will be the top model, priced somewhere around GT500/SRT8 numbers.
Even if you optioned up the SS, it would probably still end up being several thousand dollars less.

God this car is Amazing. I am going to have to go into some serious debt come First quarter 09. :drool:

[SteveR]

http://www.sportscarcup.com/cars/chevrolet-camaro.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0718/10.chevrolet.camaro.rs.f34.1.500.jpg

Raise your hand if you can tell me which one is the concept, which one is the production car?

concept is top with the silly mirrors and air inlet over the nose

[SteveR]

SS will be the "base" V8 model, starting at or around 30k.
Z28 will be the top model, priced somewhere around GT500/SRT8 numbers.
Even if you optioned up the SS, it would probably still end up being several thousand dollars less.

God this car is Amazing. I am going to have to go into some serious debt come First quarter 09. :drool:

GT500 is a lot more than an SRT8. SRT8 is 41k, GT500 is 54k.

[BigAls87Z28]

I didnt think that the GT500 was up that high. I thought it was mid 40's starting, with teh vert going into 50k land.
the Z28 will be the car to have. If rumors are right (and that info I posted confrims), the Camaro will get the same selective magnetic adjustable suspension that is in the ZR1, CTS-V, as well as similar variants in cars such as the Ferrari 599 GTB, Audi TT, and several other vehicles. This system can turn the shocks from soft riding civilian driver one min, to super road track ready the next.
I hope that Z28's price is kept down, but that car has the potential to be a potent car, and I think that Camaro Z28 will easily outdo the Challenger SRT8 and GT500 in every single performance test by a good margin
I think that once the SS shows up in car rags, and tests against the SRT8, it will read much like the current G8 GT vs Charger RT reading.

Im really really gunna need a new job...soon.

[79CamaroDiva]

the car looks good, but that radio and shifter have to die.

[Tsar]

what are the msrp's suppose to be?

[SupermanX24]

concept is top with the silly mirrors and air inlet over the nose

you forgot the RS badge...

[Savage_Messiah]

3.6di is gonna smack some bitches up

[maroman88]

3.6di is gonna smack some bitches up

mainly mustang GT's :)

[Tru2Chevy]

mainly mustang GT's :)

....and LT1 cars :-P

- Justin

[79CamaroDiva]

I weighed my Z today. Its 3300 lbs without the spare and a near empty tank, other than that no weight reduction. Seems like a pretty big jump in weight to go up to the 2 ton mark.

[BonzoHansen]

I weighed my Z today. Its 3300 lbs without the spare and a near empty tank, other than that no weight reduction. Seems like a pretty big jump in weight to go up to the 2 ton mark.

Most of that is updated crash standards, no doubt.

[maroman88]

....and LT1 cars :-P

- Justin

shut up! lol

i meant current NEW cars. leave my 13yo LT1 outa this!

[BigAls87Z28]

From what has been told, when the air bags go off, there will be NO room to move...
They want this car to be 5 star all the way around.

[Featherburner]

3900lb rating is for the SS, not the V6.
V6 will be 200lbs or so less.

For 6 years, all the nay sayers were correct.
Fixed.
What happened Al? You kept saying the Camaro was going to be much lighter than the Challenger. (aka the tank) Not so much.

[Tsar]

:popcorn:

[BigAls87Z28]

Fixed.
What happened Al? You kept saying the Camaro was going to be much lighter than the Challenger. (aka the tank) Not so much.

Ill wait till Monday, but so far Im pretty dead on.

If V6 Camaro comes in around 3700lbs, and SS comes in less then 3900lbs, that means the 4200lb SRT8 is still several hundred pounds heavier with the RT not being that much lighter then SRT8.
I never said that Camaro was going to be Mustang light, but be lighter then Challenger.
It is lighter then the Challenger, and will have less weight with same power as both the SRT8 and RT package.
V6 car is also some 200lbs lighter then SE Challenger.
Camaro is lighter then Challenger. Everyone was talking about Camaro coming in at over 4k lbs with a V8, like the Challenger, with V6 coming near teh 2k mark.
Camaro is lighter becaue it is also much smaller then the Challenger.
Is the Camaro as light as I would have liked? No, I think that another 100lbs off each one would have been better.

[Knipps]

then = time.
than = comparison.

kthxbye

[Tsar]

then = time.
than = comparison.

kthxbye
I don't think this is ever gonna work man :lol:

[SteveR]

They said the SS will be 'at least' 3900 pounds, and the SRT8 is 4124, 200 pounds in a street car is nothing. Thats the difference between an average driver and a half way decent driver. But weight isnt all you have to take into consideration, you have the power curve on the motor, gear ratios, rear end, drivetrain efficiency, weight transfer, traction, etc. I still think they'll be pretty dead even performance wise. I'm surprised nobody is trying to compare them to the Mustang, that comes in roughly 500 pounds lighter, and has the likes of Roush, Shelby, and Saleen making them much faster.

[Tsar]

Its funny Al rounds DOWN the 3747 pounds of the V6 Camaro but rounds UP the 4124 pounds of the SRT8 Challenger. :lol: At least stick to the same rounding method.

Camaro will be just as much of a tank as a Challenger :rofl:

[Savage_Messiah]

Where did they end up putting the gas door?

[BigAls87Z28]

Passanger side, damn RHD.

Alright, while Camaro isnt light, its not as heavy as Challenger, nor as big. 189 inches, I think thats almost a foot shorter then the Challenger.

[79CamaroDiva]

so you're saying that if it WERE as big as the challenger, it would weigh more.

[sweetbmxrider]

i want one. i need a job. a better job.

[Knipps]

I don't think this is ever gonna work man :lol:

it's worth a shot, and it's for my sanity lol
the latest one is steve with him wandering.. sometimes I wonder. :lol:

[79CamaroDiva]

it's worth a shot, and it's for my sanity lol
the latest one is steve with him wandering.. sometimes I wonder. :lol:

yeah. he wanders a lot.

[SteveR]

did I screw that up? Crap! I've been using the wrong version in business emails for years!

[BonzoHansen]

t-minus 10 mintues...

Media Advisory: Webcast to Unveil 2010 Camaro
07/21 9:28 am (PR)
Story 1067 (GM)


Today, Monday July 21, 2008 at 4 pm EDT Chevrolet will unveil the production version of the 2010 Camaro in a live webcast hosted by Ed Peper of Chevrolet and Ed Welburn of GM Design. To watch the live Camaro reveal go to http://camaro.gmnext.com and click on the "Camaro webcast" link. It will also be archived on the site for future viewing. Press materials will be available for immediate release at 4 pm EDT at http://media.gm.com .

Chevrolet experts will also conduct three 30 -minute webchats on Tuesday, July 22 from 9:30 to 11 am EDT at http://camaro.gmnext.com . Schedule is as follows: 9:30 am - John Fitzpatrick, Chevrolet marketing manager; 10:00 am

Mike Simcoe, executive director of Design; and 10:30 am

Doug Houlihan, vehicle chief engineer.

[SteveR]

sweet!

[Tsar]

I just wanna know the msrp of the v6 :shrugh:

For the price of the SS I would rather buy CTS, MB300, or Audi :shrug:



*waits...*

[Tsar]

26mpg out of the v6 on the highway? :lol: my car gets better and its 12 years old with 180k on the clock...

[SteveR]

website.. not ... making video... work


but the photo gallery does :) That Aqua Blue Metallic looks amazing. It looks a little like the old LT-1 Chameleon color.

[Untamed]

Yeah way too many people trying to get on. I'll wait for the press release.

[Tsar]

works fine for me, i had to click refresh though before it sarted to work

[sweetbmxrider]

it took a little bit to load, but worked for me. i just don't feel like watching it.

[Tsar]

:lol: its over

[BonzoHansen]

Yes, anti-climactic. LOL

Here is the official press release

Chevrolet Unveils the 2010 Camaro - A Fun, Efficient Sports Car for the 21st Century
07/214:00 am (PR)

-- All-new, world-class sports car -- Fuel-efficient, 3.6L direct-injected V-6 delivers an estimated 26 mpg on the highway -- Range of fuel-saving, six-speed transmissions standard on all models and powertrains -- Powerful SS models equipped with LS 3 V-8 (manual transmission) and L 99 with Active Fuel Management (automatic transmission) -- Advanced vehicle technology, including Bluetooth connectivity and available HID headlamps with integrated halo rings

-- Designed, engineered and built with GM's global development process

DETROIT, July 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Chevrolet introduced the production 2010 Camaro today. It is a heritage-inspired sports car for the 21st century, combining great looks and performance; advanced technology and surprising efficiency -- including 26 -mpg estimated highway fuel economy. Sales begin in the first quarter of 2009.

Built on GM's new, global rear-wheel-drive architecture, the Camaro is offered in V-6 -powered LS and LT models, as well as the V-8 -powered SS. All models and powertrain combinations include fuel-saving six-speed transmissions.

"Camaro delivers all of the things that make Chevrolet such a revered, global brand," said Ed Peper, GM North America vice president, Chevrolet. "It competes with the world's best sports cars and does so with styling, fuel economy and value our competitors simply can't match."

Advanced powertrain technologies, including engines with direct injection and Active Fuel Management, enable a satisfying balance of exhilarating performance and good fuel economy.

"The new Chevrolet Camaro delivers a thoroughly modern, advanced package of performance, comfort and technology," said Peper. "It's a sports car for a new generation of enthusiasts that doesn't forget the heritage that helped make the original a cultural icon. That is no small feat and it took a worldwide commitment to achieve it."

Indeed, the 2010 Camaro exemplifies GM's global development process. The design concept originated in the United States; engineering was directed by GM's global rear-wheel-drive team in Australia; validation was conducted on roads around the world and assembly will take place at GM's award-winning Oshawa facility in Canada.

Product highlights include:

-- Sleek styling with contemporary cues and 10 available exterior colors
-- LS and LT models offered with an advanced, 3.6L direct-injected V-6 engine with variable valve timing and a choice of six-speed manual or automatic transmissions
-- SS model offered with 6.2L V-8 -- including fuel-saving Active Fuel
Management on automatic-equipped combinations -- and a six-speed manual transmission
-- Four-wheel independent suspension system, including a 4.5 -link rear suspension
-- Variable-rate power steering with the rack mounted forward of the front axle for greater driver feel
-- Four-wheel disc brake systems standard on all models, including four-piston Brembo calipers on SS models
-- StabiliTrak stability control system and traction control standard on all models
-- Competitive/Sport modes for the stability system offered on SS models, including launch control on SS models equipped with the six-speed manual transmission
-- Family of 18 -, 19 - and 20 -inch wheels -- Detailed interior with heritage-inspired design, excellent attention to detail and available ambient lighting via LED light pipe technology
-- Robust body structure and exceptional build quality
-- Six standard air bags, including head curtain side-impact air bags and
front seat-mounted thorax side air bags
-- RS appearance package available on LT and SS, including HID headlampswith integrated halo rings, spoiler, specific taillamps and 20 -inchwheels

The new Camaro also has technologies that enhance performance, comfort and convenience, including:

-- Bluetooth phone connectivity
-- Premium Boston Acoustics audio system
-- USB connectivity
-- Ultrasonic rear parking assist (late introduction)
-- Remote vehicle starting system
-- OnStar
-- XM Satellite Radio

Additionally, details such as frameless door windows with automatic indexing glass contribute to the overall feeling of quality, substance and technical prowess.

Design details

With a design that is very faithful to the original concept, the 2010 Camaro is a 21st century sports car that acknowledges its heritage. A long front dash-to-axle and short rear deck give the Camaro classic proportions, while a sleek windshield profile, wheels pushed to the corners and muscular fender forms are modern elements that reinforce its advanced engineering -- and give the car a decidedly aggressive stance.

Elements such as a forward-V shape at the front of the car and "gills" in the rear quarter panels are distinctly Camaro cues, as are the broad rear fender "shoulders." Those elements make the new Camaro instantly recognizable, but their execution is smoothly integrated into the contemporary exterior form. A family of large, 18 -, 19 - and 20 -inch wheels also contributes to the Camaro's modern appearance.

"The new Camaro is just that -- new," said Ed Welburn, vice president of GM Global Design. "We acknowledge the nameplate's strong heritage in the design, but recognize that keeping this modern sports car relevant meant more than simply honoring a classic car. The line forms, stance and overall execution are consistent with other new Chevrolets."

A well-executed balance of heritage, modern design and attention to detail also characterizes the Camaro's interior. A pair of deeply recessed instrument binnacles that feature round gauges in square housings is a nod to classic Camaros, while an available ambient light package offers advanced LED light pipe technology to give the cabin a distinctive and inviting glow. Cloth upholstery is standard; heated leather-appointed seats are available.

Details such as large, chrome-trimmed controls, low-gloss surfaces and premium fabric or acrylic appliques convey a richness that is unprecedented in previous Camaro models -- and challenge its contemporary competitors. More great detail is evidenced in the available center-console gauge cluster, which takes its cue from a similar option on 1969 Camaros. It displays oil temperature, oil pressure, state-of-battery and transmission fluid temperature, all highlighted with modern LED backlighting.

Powertrains

An advanced, efficient 3.6L direct-injected V-6 with variable valve timing is standard on LS and LT models. Direct injection technology helps the engine deliver more power through increased efficiency, while maintaining fuel economy and lowering emissions. That means less fuel is consumed and lower emissions generated -- including a 25 -percent drop in cold-start hydrocarbon emissions.

The Camaro's 3.6L engine also employs variable valve timing to optimize performance and fuel economy across the rpm range. It is rated at an estimated 300 horsepower (224 kW) and 273 lb.-ft. of torque (370 Nm). A six-speed manual transmission is standard with the 3.6L engine; a Hydra-Matic 6L 50 electronically controlled six-speed automatic, with TAPshift control, is available.

The high-performance Camaro SS is equipped with a powerful 6.2L V-8, with a choice of a six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission. Standard, manual transmission-equipped models receive the LS 3 engine, estimated at 422 horsepower (315 kW) and 408 lb.-ft. of torque (553 Nm). The LS 3 debuted on the 2008 Corvette and uses high-flow cylinder heads based on the Corvette Z 06's LS 7 engine to enable great low-end torque and high-rpm power. It is paired with a TR 6060 six-speed transmission.

A new, L 99 V-8 engine is used on automatic transmission-equipped SS models. It is based on the LS 3 and carries all of its high-performance design features, but also includes GM's fuel-saving Active Fuel Management feature. It enables the engine to run on only four cylinders during light-load driving conditions, such as highway cruising, to improve fuel economy. The V-8 is estimated at 400 horsepower (299 kW) and 395 lb.-ft. of torque (535 Nm); and it is matched with a Hydra-Matic 6L 80 six-speed transmission. This combination delivers an estimated 23 mpg on the highway.

Body structure and chassis

The 2010 Camaro is built on GM's global rear-wheel-drive architecture, with a strong body structure that enhances safety, quietness and handling. World-class build quality and attention to detail are enabled by features including one-piece body side stampings and very precise tolerances between body panels.

Front and rear independent suspensions are mounted to the rigid chassis, including a multi-link strut arrangement in the front with a direct-acting stabilizer bar and a double ball-joint configuration; and a unique, 4.5 -link rear suspension that is double-isolated from the chassis for smoother, quieter driving experience.

Camaro offers two suspensions. LS and LT models receive an FE 2 (sport) suspension, while the SS receives the FE 3 (performance) suspension, including a lower ride height. Each is tuned to match the performance capabilities of their respective powertrains, as are their wheel-and-tire combinations.

A variable-rate rack-and-pinion power steering system mounts the rack forward of the front axle, for more direct action, an enhanced feeling of driver feedback and better weight balance.

Brakes and chassis control

Four-wheel disc brakes with ABS are standard on all models. LS and LT models receive single-piston calipers all around, with mass-reducing aluminum rear calipers. SS models have larger rotors that are acted upon by four-piston, aluminum Brembo calipers at all four corners. They are designed to stand up to the severe use encountered on road-race tracks, delivering excellent feedback and pedal feel, as well as fade-resistant performance during racing.

GM's StabiliTrak electronic stability control system is standard and incorporates traction control. The system on SS models includes Competitive/Sport mode that is adjustable for performance driving, such as on a racetrack; it also includes a Launch Control feature on SS models with the manual transmission. It enables quicker, more consistent takeoffs during performance driving.

Safety

Designed to protect occupants before, during and after a crash, the Camaro offers a comprehensive system of safety features -- starting with a robust body structure and integral safety cage around the passenger compartment. High-strength steel and ultra high-strength steel are used in key areas throughout the structure.

Safety technologies integrated in the Camaro include:

-- Driver and front-passenger dual-stage air bags -- Driver and front-passenger seat-mounted thorax side-impact air bags -- Head curtain side-impact air bags for front and rear seat occupants -- Front seat safety belt load limiters and pre-tensioners

The front passenger detection system senses children and small-stature adults and suppresses air bag deployment when appropriate.

Standard OnStar service assists after a crash. With OnStar's Advanced Crash Response System, the vehicle automatically sends a signal to OnStar for assistance, even if the air bags don't deploy.

Chevrolet is one of America's best-known and best-selling automotive brands. With the largest dealer network in the United States, Chevy is the leader in full-size trucks and the leader in sales of vehicles priced $35,000 and above. Chevrolet delivers more-than-expected value in every vehicle category, offering cars and trucks priced from $12,120 to $103,300. Chevy delivers expressive design, spirited performance and great value with standard features usually found only on more expensive vehicles. More information on Chevrolet can be found at www.chevrolet.com.

SOURCE General Motors Corporation

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[Tsar]

v6 weight 3750, SS weight 3913


TANK TANK TANK :lol: add a tank of fuel and its TWO TON TANK! :rofl:

Edit, the tank has 19 gallon fuel tank, that will be PRICEY to fill up with some premium gas. ouch.

Edit 2, wheres the MSRP?

[SteveR]

"THIS JUST IN: CHEVY UNVEILS NEW 2010 PRODUCTION MODEL CAMARO PICTARS"














http://www.gizmology.net/images/tank11.jpg

[Tsar]

^ :rofl:

[SteveR]

...and the Camaro production team comes out to celebrate the unveiling...


















http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/ENGLISH/exhibits/mould/pics/4843_tank_with_men_2020.jpg

[Tsar]

Camaro's top speed run
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M1A1_High_Gear_lg.jpg

[79CamaroDiva]

:rofl:

[SteveR]

The new production wheels unveiled today....















http://www.armoredfistpaintball.com/images/Events/Bear%20Claw%20Kursk%202005/BC-Kursk-05_panther-paintball-tank_c3_0013.jpg

[SteveR]

SPYSHOT:




Camaro at "The 'Ring"










http://www.kmweg.de/gb/produkte/frk_2.jpg

[12secondv6]

:rofl::rofl:

[Tsar]

Steve, you are gonna make Al all hot and bothered about his beloved Camero. :lol:

[SteveR]

lol all in good fun

[BonzoHansen]

LOL

[SteveR]

"2010 CAMARO HAS PROBLEMS DURING CRASH TESTING"



















http://www.emergentchaos.com/images/06-june/car-crushed-by-tank.jpg

:rofl: ok, I'm done

[Tsar]

:rofl:

[79CamaroDiva]

"2010 CAMARO HAS PROBLEMS DURING CRASH TESTING"



















http://www.emergentchaos.com/images/06-june/car-crushed-by-tank.jpg

:rofl: ok, I'm done

get back to work!

:rofl:

[Tru2Chevy]

v6 weight 3750, SS weight 3913

SS with the M6 is only 3,860 lbs..... :D

- Justin

[BonzoHansen]

FIXED, LOL.

"2010 CAMARO CRUSHES COMPETITION"

http://www.emergentchaos.com/images/06-june/car-crushed-by-tank.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

hahahaa the tank pics...so funnny!! on the other hand
the car sounds real nice!

[Tsar]

SS with the M6 is only 3,860 lbs..... :D

- Justin
With a tank of gas thats 2 tons of pure Tankaro! :lol:

Speaking of fluied, do they give out dry weight of the car or wet weight?

And If I remember correctly GTO was less weight than any of the Camaro's but people here still said it was too heavy, what changed? :lol:

[SteveR]

-- SS model offered with 6.2L V-8 -- including fuel-saving Active Fuel
Management on automatic-equipped combinations -- and a six-speed manual transmission


I wonder if by wording it that way, that the active fuel management isnt available on the stick

[qwikz28]

With a tank of gas thats 2 tons of pure Tankaro! :lol:

Speaking of fluied, do they give out dry weight of the car or wet weight?

And If I remember correctly GTO was less weight than any of the Camaro's but people here still said it was too heavy, what changed? :lol:

my LS1 car was 3411 and the GTO was about 3600. i think 38xx for a 5th gen is crazy, but i am willing to bet with the amount of suspension tuning they did on this car that it will feel very agile for its weight.

[sweetbmxrider]

I wonder if by wording it that way, that the active fuel management isnt available on the stick

thats how i interpreted it

[Tsar]

thats how i interpreted it
:werd:

[Featherburner]

I wonder if by wording it that way, that the active fuel management isnt available on the stickThey couldn't get AFM to work with the stick. That's why there is no G8 GT stick.

[Tsar]

They couldn't get AFM to work with the stick. That's why there is no G8 GT stick.
So um... stick is suppose to get even worse mileage?

[BigAls87Z28]

No, the stick gets better milage, hence it doesnt need any milage adder like AFM.
Auto gets L99 with AFM only. So auto means you take a 22hp drop


Ok, its heavy, but lighter then Challenger. And for about 30k, the SS Camaro will offer more power for 10k less then SRT8.
SS compared to RT, the SS 6spd manual will have 50 more hp.
Compared to the Mustang...wait...dont even bother.

[BigAls87Z28]

Did anyone see the ignition video? The wole interior can be lit up with LED light tubes for ambiant interior lighting...awesome!

[Featherburner]

So um... stick is suppose to get even worse mileage?I don't know about worse, stick cars usually have taller overdrive. It may be a wash. :shrug:

[SteveR]

No, the stick gets better milage, hence it doesnt need any milage adder like AFM.
Auto gets L99 with AFM only. So auto means you take a 22hp drop


Ok, its heavy, but lighter then Challenger. And for about 30k, the SS Camaro will offer more power for 10k less then SRT8.
SS compared to RT, the SS 6spd manual will have 50 more hp.
Compared to the Mustang...wait...dont even bother.

How does the AFM work? And why does it rob power?

The Mustang is actual a pretty damn nice car, and coming in 500 pounds lighter and a great handling car, it wont be as 'in the back' as it may seem, especially considering the GT is going to be between 6 and 10k cheaper than the SS. For just a little more than the SRT8 you can get a supercharged 435hp Roush 427R.

[SteveR]

Did anyone see the ignition video? The wole interior can be lit up with LED light tubes for ambiant interior lighting...awesome!

yea that was pretty cool. Hopefully they'll let you change the color with a button like Ford's ambient lighting option. I also hope there is some sort of dimmer switch because that could get distracting and annoying if driving a lot at night.

[BigAls87Z28]

How does the AFM work? And why does it rob power?

The Mustang is actual a pretty damn nice car, and coming in 500 pounds lighter and a great handling car, it wont be as 'in the back' as it may seem, especially considering the GT is going to be between 6 and 10k cheaper than the SS. For just a little more than the SRT8 you can get a supercharged 435hp Roush 427R.

AFM's cam is a little different. What happens is, under light load, oil that is sent to each lifter via passages in the block are turned off, colapsing the intake and exhaust lifter of 4 of the cylinders.
But what is needed is exhaust rerouting to keep the exhaust resonance the same and so the driver doesnt know.

Mustang is a good car, but the Challenger and Camaro will outclass it. The GT 6k less then the SS? That would make the GT start at 24k?
Ford lists it down as 26.5k for a base GT. Start adding options, and 30k is right there.
For more then 41k for an SRT8, you could probably pick up a Camaro Z28 come next year, making well north of 500hp. And perhaps magnetic ride control.

yea that was pretty cool. Hopefully they'll let you change the color with a button like Ford's ambient lighting option. I also hope there is some sort of dimmer switch because that could get distracting and annoying if driving a lot at night.

There will be 4 customizable interior colors, so thoes inserts in the door as well as on the dash will be options.
And if its like the CTS, or any other car, its a very very low light, and even at night wont do much other then supply a very low light to the interior. Boon brought down an S550, and they have this lighting.
A few new CTS's i have been in have it tied in with the dimmer switch as well.

[V]

...i'll definatley be rocking a 2011 Z28... loaded

[SteveR]

AFM's cam is a little different. What happens is, under light load, oil that is sent to each lifter via passages in the block are turned off, colapsing the intake and exhaust lifter of 4 of the cylinders.
But what is needed is exhaust rerouting to keep the exhaust resonance the same and so the driver doesnt know.

Mustang is a good car, but the Challenger and Camaro will outclass it. The GT 6k less then the SS? That would make the GT start at 24k?
Ford lists it down as 26.5k for a base GT. Start adding options, and 30k is right there.
For more then 41k for an SRT8, you could probably pick up a Camaro Z28 come next year, making well north of 500hp. And perhaps magnetic ride control.



There will be 4 customizable interior colors, so thoes inserts in the door as well as on the dash will be options.
And if its like the CTS, or any other car, its a very very low light, and even at night wont do much other then supply a very low light to the interior. Boon brought down an S550, and they have this lighting.
A few new CTS's i have been in have it tied in with the dimmer switch as well.

The Mustang GT comes in two versions; the deluxe and premium. At the dealership we ordered a bare bones deluxe GT stick and the window sticker was like 24,300. All the premium is is leather interior and the ability to order more options, as some aren't available in the deluxe. The only major downside to the Mustang is that the factory bottom end in the 4.6 will only hold up to about 470hp safely, which is why Roush wont go over 435hp, and Saleen wont go over 465hp. In the Saleen S302 cars and the S281-E cars, they're all Saleen built motors, and the Shelby GT500 uses the DOHC engine similar to the '03 - '04 Cobra motors. I'm sure the new Camaro motor will be built a bit stronger.

The ambient lighting is a really cool option, my brother has it in his Mustang. Theres no dimmer though, so if it gets annoying you just turn it off. Whats cool about it is you can change the gauges color too to match the ambient lighting.

[Tru2Chevy]

With a tank of gas thats 2 tons of pure Tankaro! :lol:

Speaking of fluied, do they give out dry weight of the car or wet weight?

The weights listed for the Camaro are Curb Weight, which is the weight with all standard equipment, full tank of gas, oil, coolant, PS fluid, etc.



I wonder if by wording it that way, that the active fuel management isnt available on the stick

Yes, AFM is only available on the auto. The M6 gets the LS3 with no AFM, the A6 gets the L99 with AFM.

The manual version has a better OD ratio, and makes slightly more power at the crank.

- Justin

[SteveR]

Yes, AFM is only available on the auto. The M6 gets the LS3 with no AFM, the A6 gets the L99 with AFM.

The manual version has a better OD ratio, and makes slightly more power at the crank.

- Justin

So the stick and auto get different motors too? Are they slightly different or totally?

[BonzoHansen]

http://www.5thgen.org/images/2010Production/2010CamaroSpecs1A.jpg
http://www.5thgen.org/images/2010Production/2010CamaroSpecs2A.jpg
http://www.5thgen.org/images/2010Production/2010CamaroSpecs3A.jpg
http://www.5thgen.org/images/2010Production/2010CamaroSpecs4A.jpg

[BigAls87Z28]

The L99 and LS3 are the same, only the L99 has AFM.

[12secondv6]

v6 - 11.3 to 1 compression.... spins to 7,000 rpm and runs on 87???

that would make me nervous

mb has a new v6 engine - 11.7 to 1 and runs on 91

[BigAls87Z28]

Direct Injection FTW.
Direct Injection allows for higher compression ratio because the injection of the fuel right into the chamber acts as a cooling jet to help eliminate detonation.
CTS's has this same thing.
Imagine if they cranked it up to 12:1 and made it run on 91...there is another 30hp.
Im actually surprised MB does not have a direct injected engine yet?

[Tsar]

I thought LED lights were a little on the ricerish side, but I'm sure I won't have to worry about them.

[BigAls87Z28]

I am not a fan of silver....but I keep finding myself stairing at that silver RS.
God this car totaly blows teh other two away...

[BigAls87Z28]

I thought LED lights were a little on the ricerish side, but I'm sure I won't have to worry about them.

LED's play a big part in the lighting of your dream CTS. LED's are a big part of luxury cars, and will start to become a major part in headlighting.

[Tsar]

LED's play a big part in the lighting of your dream CTS. LED's are a big part of luxury cars, and will start to become a major part in headlighting.
Don't really care if they are in the headlights or not, I was saying about the inside of the car. I wasn't a fan of it. By no means they would discourage me from buying any car, especially the CTS, I would just prefer not to have them/turn them off. Maybe they look different in person. :shrug: And I wasn't aware that CTS had them inside.

[BigAls87Z28]

CTS has a similar system to the Camaro, it has LED ambiant lighting in the now standard Caddy soft blue.
Its very very nice. Plus everything is lit up with LED's.
Light tubes in the headlights and tail lights are hot. CTS sure is one of the hottest cars out of GM in a long time.

[Tsar]

I'm going to have to agree with the last portion of your post :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

The CTS-V makes it hawt as sin.
CTS Coupe is also gunna be a hot little ride...

[Tsar]

Wouldn't be able to afford CTS-V right out of College, but I do like it!
Coupe? Tell me what I do not know!

[BigAls87Z28]

CTS coupe should be out next year as well. Concept was shown this past year, preproduction mules have been driving around test tracks for a while.

http://www.thetorquereport.com/cadillac_cts_coupe_concept-thumb.jpg

Production car will get the door handle-less doors, and center exit exhaust.
CTS-V coupe is also rumored.

[Tsar]

is the msrp above or below of the sedan? :lol:

Sometimes you are not that bad, I would love to have that as a car! :lol:

[Tsar]

Ahh, I googled some info and pics, and I have something new to nutswing about! Thanks. :mrgreen:

[BigAls87Z28]

NP. Pricing hasnt been announced, but Id say the coupe will probably get the 3.6DI motor standard and only engine outside of the V. Price could start between 34-40k.

[Tsar]

Interesting, according to this (http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-challenger.html#specifications) V6 Challenger is lighter than the V6 Camaro, and R/T is only slightly heavier than the SS.

Interesting...

[Mark B]

Im getting in line for the 2010 model. Black, SS/RS, M6!!!!! DAMN I WANT ONE NOW!!!

[LS1Hawk]

After seeing all the new photos, I still can't get over how bad the back of the car looks, like the designers took a vacation and let the janitor draw the rear. Good looking over all, just think they could have put more effort into the back.

[BigAls87Z28]

You kiddin me? I love the back end!!
Very angular, very muscular, I like the black defuser built into the bottom of the skirt there. The tail lights look very sharp, a little throw back to the 70-73 circle tail lights.

But Im just a crazy nut hugger.


Oh, and according to edmunds...3720 is the weight of the Challenger SE, 30lbs lighter then Camaro LS. Camaro also has a larger 6spd manual and automatic transmission.

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/dodge/challenger/101020244/specs.html

Difference is that Camaro has 50 more hp in V6 trim


Camaro SS is 3860 with manual
Challenger RT is 4041 with manual
Challenger SRT8 is 4170 with 5spd auto
Camaro SS is 3913 with 6spd auto.
Camaro has weight and power advantage over RT, priced about the same
Camaro has weight and price advantage over SRT8, power about the same.

[12secondv6]

Al, is there credibility to this guys comments?

I think he works for GM

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35757

[BigAls87Z28]

Oppenheiser is Camaro's product engineer or something to that effect.

[SteveR]

Oppenheiser is Camaro's product engineer or something to that effect.

Didn't he pitch for the Dodgers :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

Ahahaha...I kept thinking it was Oppenheimer, head of the Manhattan Project!!
Im like "oh sheet!! atomic fusion powerd Cameros!!"

[SteveR]

Ahahaha...I kept thinking it was Oppenheimer, head of the Manhattan Project!!
Im like "oh sheet!! atomic fusion powerd Cameros!!"

:rofl: hydrogen power to the one millionth megaton!!!

[BigAls87Z28]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f32/gmi-first-look-2010-camaro-67197/#post1464651

if anyone wants to read it, tell me what they think

[Tru2Chevy]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f32/gmi-first-look-2010-camaro-67197/#post1464651

if anyone wants to read it, tell me what they think

Good read.....

- Justin

[Tsar]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f32/gmi-first-look-2010-camaro-67197/#post1464651

if anyone wants to read it, tell me what they thinkPretty cool.

Both my mother and my girlfriend like it. For the girlfriend it's between new Audi TT, BMW 1, and now this. Personally, I think she will get the TT but we shall see.

If the v6 can be had for under 25k after all the dealer BS I will consider one too, however if it is close to 30, than no way; I already know what I want in that range. :lol:

Edit* I forgot to add that I already dismissed the challenger as the next possible car due to crappy transmission choices. I will not be switching from 6spd manual to a 4spd auto - that's asinine. Just waiting for the price now, and a job :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

V6 will probably be available for under 25k, its the RS package that makes it better...that might put you a bit over the 25k mark. But you get dubs!!