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79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 06:45 PM

I picked this up yesterday:

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2006, manual LT with a lot of options. Front/side airbags, ABS, power seat w/ lumbar support, pioneer stereo, extra chrome package, running boards, roof rails, much nicer grill, alloy wheels. Only 13k miles. I was looking at new with all the incentives that chevy's doing, but this was more optioned and I was demanding SOM in a manual which was proving hard to find in the 08s. Steve found this on ebay, and we went right to the dealer. We talked them down from 13,9 to 11,990 so I'm pretty happy. :D

So far, its awesome. I've gotten 26 mpg around town which is all hilly, cant wait for the first long trip with it. I really didn't like these when you guys suggested it, but after I test drove the first one I was hooked.

EDIT: Obviously there was no tripod involved in the pictures. I took them purely to take pictures, not for a "photo shoot" :lol:

Z28 Heritage

07-20-2008, 06:49 PM

That looks awesome....Good Luck with it!

Tru2Chevy

07-20-2008, 06:50 PM

:w00t:

Nice buy Melissa!

- Justin

maroman88

07-20-2008, 06:59 PM

holy crap u got the one u wanted for sure! love it!

BTK79

07-20-2008, 07:11 PM

Nice , good luck with it .

SteveR

07-20-2008, 07:12 PM

Pics came out great!

procamaroz28

07-20-2008, 07:14 PM

nice.. wat u do wit the purple camaro?

DaSkinnyGuy

07-20-2008, 07:14 PM

Sweet you even got your car where i just got mine and you took those pics at the rockaway mall.

BonzoHansen

07-20-2008, 07:18 PM

Cool

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 07:18 PM

nice.. wat u do wit the purple camaro?

ITS NOT PURPLE!

:lol: I'm gonna do everything I can to hold onto both of them. selling the camaro would kill me.

Sweet you even got your car where i just got mine and you took those pics at the rockaway mall.

yep. did you talk them down from asking price on yours? there's always room to move on used cars, thats why i brought sheep man with me :D He's a much better negotiator than I am. And yes, the mall was the first trip with it :)

baddest434

07-20-2008, 07:19 PM

nice i love the color. have you seen the ones that don't have side windows and looks like panel truck. good luck with it.

steve you are the man!!!!!

BigAls87Z28

07-20-2008, 07:22 PM

Ahhhhh man...I love the HHR. And with the running boards, it looks better.

I wish they made the 2.4 with teh manual trans, more power and fun to drive.
Good stuff sis...good stuff. If there was an HHR available in 2004, I would have gotten that over the Maxx for sure.

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 07:26 PM

12secondv6

07-20-2008, 07:27 PM

congrats!

Knipps

07-20-2008, 07:28 PM

nice choice melissa, and sheepman good job with the negotiations :lol:

nice i love the color. have you seen the ones that don't have side windows and looks like panel truck. good luck with it.

steve you are the man!!!!!

I want the panel truck! :drool:

SteveR

07-20-2008, 07:51 PM

Yea that panel truck is awesome looking. I saw one at Konner Chevy in West Caldwell and had to look at it. I hear that for 2009 their making an SS panel truck :D

slugger27nj

07-20-2008, 07:54 PM

:clap: Sweet....congrats!

Tru2Chevy

07-20-2008, 07:55 PM

And yes, the mall was the first trip with it :)

Typical woman :nod:

- Justin

edpontiac91

07-20-2008, 08:02 PM

VERY nice color. Looks great with the custom grill and stuff. Hard to find with extras since most people will not spend the money if they are going to trade it in soon. Now get some 35% tint all around(20% on the rear) and really set it off.

BonzoHansen

07-20-2008, 08:18 PM

nice i love the color. have you seen the ones that don't have side windows and looks like panel truck. good luck with it.

steve you are the man!!!!!

A man amongst sheep!
http://media.funny.co.uk/files/3989.jpg

BigAls87Z28

07-20-2008, 08:29 PM

It is a 2.4 Manual!!! Oh man, thats awesome!! Not the same gas milage as the 2.2, but 170hp should be plenty potent.

Ian

07-20-2008, 08:58 PM

very nice! I'm sure that will be great for hauling all your photo gear around with

Blackbirdws6

07-20-2008, 09:07 PM

I dig the orange. Good luck with it.

-brian

Anti_Rice_Guy

07-20-2008, 09:26 PM

Nice find, I haven't seen one that color yet...I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

LS1Hawk

07-20-2008, 09:36 PM

Very nice! I use to hate the HHR when it first came out, but it's really grown on me in the last year.

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 09:39 PM

Typical woman :nod:

- Justin

:caugh: he needed to go to best buy..... :lol:

qwikz28

07-20-2008, 10:28 PM

congrats dude! i love it. those cars are great alternatives to SUVs. i can't wait to see it in person

Frosty

07-20-2008, 10:30 PM

congrats dude!

Ughhhh :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Tsar

07-20-2008, 10:32 PM

Ughhhh :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Melissa has always been part of the "dudes" :shrug:

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 10:34 PM

congrats dude! i love it. those cars are great alternatives to SUVs. i can't wait to see it in person

:lol: thanks dude!

Its funny you say alternative to SUV. When you're driving it, it makes you feel like you're in an SUV, probably because of the driving position mostly, but its actually very small from the outside, incredibly roomy inside, and handles like my damn camaro! It's got an awesome turning radius, unlike the f-bod, and gives you this strange sense of being in a big car thats really not. Oh yeah, and all state insurance considers it a TRUCK. :banghead: wtf?

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 10:36 PM

Melissa has always been part of the "dudes" :shrug:

ya, pretty much. i'm used to it.

SteveR

07-20-2008, 10:38 PM

Yea I was really impressed with how roomy it is inside. It looks a little small from the outside, but is really comfortable inside. And the feeling that your in a car with a chopped top is pretty badass.

Tsar

07-20-2008, 10:39 PM

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 10:46 PM

And the feeling that your in a car with a chopped top is pretty badass.

Since you're just about a full foot taller, thats probably more for you than me :lol: I just feel like I'm driving a cave.

SteveR

07-20-2008, 10:56 PM

Since you're just about a full foot taller, thats probably more for you than me :lol: I just feel like I'm driving a cave.

lol theres still plenty of room left for my head though :)

Savage_Messiah

07-20-2008, 11:05 PM

Since you're just about a full foot taller, thats probably more for you than me :lol: I just feel like I'm driving a cave.

lol theres still plenty of room left for my head though :)

There's plenty of room left for your head in her cave??

:lol:

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 11:07 PM

what is wrong with this forum tonight? vitals and the old man talking about boners in one forum, then vitals (again) and kasey trying to turn my new car thread into a pr0n fest. jeez guys, put it back in your pants!

qwikz28

07-20-2008, 11:11 PM

:lol: thanks dude!

Its funny you say alternative to SUV. When you're driving it, it makes you feel like you're in an SUV, probably because of the driving position mostly, but its actually very small from the outside, incredibly roomy inside, and handles like my damn camaro! It's got an awesome turning radius, unlike the f-bod, and gives you this strange sense of being in a big car thats really not. Oh yeah, and all state insurance considers it a TRUCK. :banghead: wtf?

probably my biggest gripe about the saturn was the turning radius. i used to joke in my head that they named it saturn because thats the size of the turning radius (bad joke but it made me chuckle in my head). i wonder if cobalt SS suspension parts would fit in it and make it handle a little better. oh, and just about anything handles better than a stock fbody. ;)

Tsar

07-20-2008, 11:15 PM

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 11:19 PM

i wonder if cobalt SS suspension parts would fit in it and make it handle a little better.

i think they would.. :shrug: arent they the same car?

Savage_Messiah

07-20-2008, 11:30 PM

I could make a joke about rears with that changing suspension business but it'd be too forced.

79CamaroDiva

07-20-2008, 11:32 PM

Nice find, I haven't seen one that color yet...I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

ya know, neither did i. until i picked this up. we saw one at best buy parked right by me and then i saw another one in hackettstown today. i'm the one with the cool lookin grill :)

qwikz28

07-20-2008, 11:36 PM

i think they would.. :shrug: arent they the same car?
same frame and drivetrain. but not sure if that would imply the same for suspension. besides, no modding the beater! :)

SteveR

07-21-2008, 06:26 AM

A man amongst sheep!
http://media.funny.co.uk/files/3989.jpg

that is the coolest pic ever :lol:

chrisfrom nj

07-21-2008, 07:37 AM

nice car

LS1Hawk

07-21-2008, 07:48 AM

The Cobalt SS has a VERY large turning radius.

JL8Jeff

07-21-2008, 07:57 AM

Nice pick! I think you put yourself in a tough situation trying to find that exact combination for a vehicle to serve your purposes. Glad you were able to find something that fits and it's even better when you really like the car/truck/suv or whatever it's called. Insurance probably calls it a truck to jack up the rates. What does dmv consider it, a car/wagon I hope to keep registration cheaper than a truck.

Mike

07-21-2008, 08:12 AM

i dunno jeff, my trailblazer is considered a "wagon" by dmv and my insurance company, i think they only go by gross vehicle wieght

The Fixer

07-21-2008, 08:25 AM

Nice buy Melissa, the SOM looks sweet on the HHR! I like those cars a lot; they have plenty of room for gear and/or kids, and the gas mileage is a definite bonus. If I could justify buying something new now, that would be at the top of my list.

BigAls87Z28

07-21-2008, 08:26 AM

It has a flat loading floor, its a truck. Same goes with Magnum and the PT. Its how the Automakers got around certain CAFE rules before.

bandit88

07-21-2008, 08:41 AM

congrats on the buy melissa!

BonzoHansen

07-21-2008, 08:41 AM

It has a flat loading floor, its a truck. Same goes with Magnum and the PT. Its how the Automakers got around certain CAFE rules before.

If i understand it right it is those stupid rules that gave us the suv craze. I think nissan figured it out and gave us the 4 door pathfinder and off the OEs went.

Mike

07-21-2008, 08:43 AM

It has a flat loading floor, its a truck. Same goes with Magnum and the PT. Its how the Automakers got around certain CAFE rules before.

soo honda civic hatchbacks are trucks? subaru wagons are trucks? come on al

JL8Jeff

07-21-2008, 09:21 AM

cdacda13

07-21-2008, 09:34 AM

Very nice pick up. Looks really good.

mtnhopper1

07-21-2008, 09:53 AM

Since you're just about a full foot taller, thats probably more for you than me :lol: I just feel like I'm driving a cave.

I rented one of these once and drove it to Maine. I am about 6'5" and I had plenty of headroom, but the windshield was so low that I had to slouch to see the car in front of me, and sitting at a light, my wife had to tell me when the light was green. I felt like I needed one of those old-school stoplight reflectors that you used to see on the dash of cars from the 40s-50s. I'm all for cruising around in a chopped street rod, with all the bad visibility, straight-axle bump steer, bias-ply madness, but not as my daily driver.

Too bad, too, because I think they look neato. The one we rented was silver, and my wife said it looked like a trout.:lol: Maybe if I could get one with power seats that adjust lower, it would be okay.

79CamaroDiva

07-21-2008, 09:53 AM

I've had several older 4Runners and some were wagons and some were trucks with DMV. I think it depends on who handles the initial registration. If a dealer does it then it's whatever they pick. If an owner does it then it could be different. But once the vehicle is registered, it can't be changed. Truck registration is more expensive than wagon. I'm surprised insurance categorizes it as a truck though.

the dealer considers it a wagon, thats probably what itll get registered as. but just allstate considers it a truck. :shrug: once I drop my 79, my insurance will only be going up about $200 to add a full coverage vehicle.

BigAls87Z28

07-21-2008, 09:59 AM

soo honda civic hatchbacks are trucks? subaru wagons are trucks? come on al

Civic, no, Subie Wagons yes.
Civic hatch back has a lip around the hatch area, so its not a "flat" loading floor.

http://www.hhr-chevrolet.com/i/HHR_Panel_Red_RrLftQtrHatch_Door355x223.jpg

See how its flat, from the lip of the hatch to the floor?

Pontiac Vibe
http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/PontiacVibe/Images/Hatch.jpg

Here is a Civic hatch, where you would have to lift over the lip to store things

http://images.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0708_29_z+1999_honda_civic_hatchback+rear_carg o_area.jpg

And again...flat loading floor for the Magnum

http://www.herpolsheimers.com/photos/246.jpg

sweetbmxrider

07-21-2008, 10:06 AM

sweet grill!

al, you're crazy...what about minivans?

BigAls87Z28

07-21-2008, 10:12 AM

Crazy or not, Im not the EPA, and thats what the EPA used to think was a truck.

See, if you can get cars like the HHR, PT, and other cars that get good gas milage, and its grouped in with the trucks that get 20 or less, it brings the CAFE of the trucks for that company up.
CAFE is Corperate Average Fuel Economy.

Minivans could also be considerd a truck, but Im not sure how that works as most of them dont have flat loading floors.

SteveR

07-21-2008, 10:26 AM

See, if you can get cars like the HHR, PT, and other cars that get good gas milage, and its grouped in with the trucks that get 20 or less, it brings the CAFE of the trucks for that company up.
CAFE is Corperate Average Fuel Economy.

thats pretty damn tricky.

BigAls87Z28

07-21-2008, 10:33 AM

Very, but everyone does it. Everyone bends the rules, everyone tests the electric fence...its human nature.

SteveR

07-21-2008, 10:38 AM

Very, but everyone does it. Everyone bends the rules, everyone tests the electric fence...its human nature.

yea, and it doesnt bother me, as long as the sticker on the window is close to what the true mpg is.

How do they get around not having to have mpg ratings for trucks?

BigAls87Z28

07-21-2008, 10:49 AM

They dont. MPG ratings should be on all cars and trucks. I think the ONLY cars that dont need one are the ones that are over a certain GVW like the H1 Hummer. Its the same reason why there are zero air bags in an H1...on top of teh fact that it was never designed for them.

The old system was two CAFE sections. Cars and Trucks. If GM had a fleet of 5 door hatchbacks, all with flat loading floors (and Americans didnt have this adverse reaction to hatchbacks andbought them), and all of them got 35mpg or better, GM could advertise that they have the best average fuel economy of any truck line in the world.

Anyway, back to this car. I was just reading up on GMI some member reviews, and a lot of people really liked it.
I hope that on Delt 2, they give it a bit more modern flare while keeping the retro look, increaes quality of materials to match the Cruze, as well as 6spd auto.
Cool car...when are you coming down to go for a ride?

79CamaroDiva

07-21-2008, 11:50 AM

Cool car...when are you coming down to go for a ride?

I tried telling you last night I could come down and visit. but you didnt get back to me :(

baddest434

07-21-2008, 02:08 PM

07-21-2008, 09:26 PM

melissa, congrats, when we went for that test drive, it was my first time in either vehicle and i liked the HHR better. very good choice. good luck with it.

BigAls87Z28

07-21-2008, 09:53 PM

Yeah...I ended up going to see Blair. She is homeless..sort of. She is staying with her friend in Red Bank till she can find a house.

jims69camaro

07-22-2008, 07:27 AM

Very nice! I use to hate the HHR when it first came out, but it's really grown on me in the last year.

this is why i pushed her so hard in that direction. now all i have to do is meet her and get her to let me drive it. then maybe i'll get one of my own (wife is into it, and she's a little tired of the jeep), but it'll have to be an SS. and i like the version without the windows in back.

nice score, melissa.

jims69camaro

07-22-2008, 07:33 AM

the dealer considers it a wagon, thats probably what itll get registered as. but just allstate considers it a truck. :shrug: once I drop my 79, my insurance will only be going up about $200 to add a full coverage vehicle.

shouldn't it go down or remain the same? you are replacing a v8 sports car with a 4 cyl wagon...

07-22-2008, 08:27 AM

shouldn't it go down or remain the same? you are replacing a v8 sports car with a 4 cyl wagon...

i believe the camaro is liability only now, and the hhr will be 200 more for full coverage

Tsar

07-22-2008, 08:52 AM

shouldn't it go down or remain the same? you are replacing a v8 sports car with a 4 cyl wagon...

I paid MORE for my 4-cyl dsm than I do for my F-body. Didn't change anything on the insurance policy besides the name. You never know with NJ insurance companies.

79CamaroDiva

07-22-2008, 08:56 AM

i believe the camaro is liability only now, and the hhr will be 200 more for full coverage

ding ding ding!!

1_Hot_SOM_WS6

07-22-2008, 09:06 AM

Oh very nice!! That looks pretty fancy!! Love the color! :) Good luck with it!

jims69camaro

07-22-2008, 06:17 PM

...Love the color! ...

how did i know?

i got it, insurance goes up because of full coverage. well, you have to have full if you have a loan on it, right? that is one of the sucky things about cars in NJ, loan means full coverage. once the loan is paid off, you'll be able to drop it down. assuming you keep it, that is...

my wife was kicking and screaming about full coverage on the jeep (we had a deal where we split all expenses down the middle, but we were each responsible for our own insurance). it didn't have a loan, but i wasn't taking any chances with something i just spent 20k on. her old car was an 80s something olds, so she went from liability only to full coverage. i'm wondering if having full on it now is too much, though. it's 7 years old already.

rscamaro73

07-23-2008, 07:44 AM

OK, I missed several things I guess....thanks for the update ;)

Anyhows, what's the deal on the ol' Jeepster ?? That finally give up the ghost ?

Dunno....Bab said he didn't like his (rental to/from Carlisle) because he said he wasn't too savvy on the lack of vision in the back or viewing OUT of the thing. Looked pretty roomy for passengers as far as headroom goes (heh...i said headroom :mrgreen: )

Its always nice to have a new ride....I'm not too savvy of payments and added insurance. Hope you enjoys it :) Send me a zip-lock baggie of new car smell ;)

NEVERMIND....I went back further and got the details....

79CamaroDiva

07-23-2008, 09:28 AM

nah, the jeep didn't give up.. still runs but ill be going back to my traveling job at the end of august and needed the fuel mileage. i sat down and figured out what payments translated to what increase in mpg to be worth it, right now this is at around 30 mpg with some traffic related stop and go's, but hopefully once its all highway, itll go up to around 33-34